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#101 Ballroompirate
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@getyeryayasout said:

It's still early, and who know's what kind of changes they'll make and content they'll add in the future, but a launch reception like this could kill this game before it has a chance to really get going. I wouldn't be surprised to see this game dry up and blow away like Evolve did.

As someone who was hyped for Evolve, The Division shats all over it. What happened to Evolve was not only did it get boring pretty quickly the idea of a 1 vs 4 type of mode just sucked arse. I've already put 11 hours into The Division (lvl 14) compared to the 20 hours I've put into Evolve, and I see The Division not slowing down at all.

I really wanna double dip on The Division as well cause the game looks amazing on the PS4, but the history of Ubisoft games on PC has me turned away for now (just wanna see how it runs on my 970). Been playing The Division solo and co op and it got pretty epic trying to protect my friends who were 9 lvls below me. I don't think I've had this much fun in a sp/co-op game in a very long time, who knows it might get stale 60 hours from now but with only 11 hours into it so far it's been worth the money.

I don't say this much, but Ubisoft did a pretty damn good job with The Division.

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#102  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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Second biggest launch ever. That reception doesn't mean shit. Expect more online only games going forward...yuck.

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#103  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@Wasdie: I don't like Ubisoft. A spade is a spade.

If they make a game that's great: Rayman Legends. I call it great.

If they make a game that is recycled from previous games, Far Cry, Watch Dogs, Assassins Creed, follows the same formula and is extremely repetitive.

Obviously some people are not able to give credit for a developer they dislike.

At the same time other people use the fact that people dislike a developer to avoid criticising a game.

There are criticisms to be had about The Division. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not expecting the game to get AAA rating across the board or anything like that. I'm simply talking about the kneejerk people have or how cynical people have become where they'll go out of their way to buy a game they know they will not like, a game they don't know a thing about and it ends up being completely different than their expectations, or people that refuse to understand how insignificant some "within 2 hours of launch issues" are in even the first 48 hours of a multiplayer focused game and will proceed to shit on the game whenever they can.

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#104 super600  Moderator
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I don't trust user reviewer on the web for video games usually because you can expect people for certain games to rate the game lower than it probably deserves(ie. People scoring the game either 0/10 or 1/10 even though the game deserves higher). I don't think the game will be a critical flop and I expect it to get good scores. The game's launch could have been pulled off better, but the game from what I heard is not that bad.

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#106 ZombieKiller7
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@silversix_ said:

This game has more content than Destiny but look how poorly its received on pc. Now imagine if Destiny was released on pc lol. Bungie knew that pc folks would've crucified them hah

That's because the servers for PC were too few and crashed.

Whereas the XB version was great because pay for servers with Gold.

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#107 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Well despite the amount of Internet hate and the lack of pre-release reviews, the game is a smash hit. Good job folks. You did it!

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#108 Pray_to_me
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Enjoying the game. If greasy Neckbeards cynical internet rants held any influence over me I wouldn't be able to enjoy any game ever.

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#109  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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It's actually not that bad. I haven't gotten far though so near end game stuff could be a problem.

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#110 PcGamingRig
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I am loving the game personally. I haven't had many issues in terms of server crashes or glitches/bugs. The game runs well on the highest settings as well and looks good. The fire fights, especially on the harder difficulty, are a lot of fun. Even more so if you are teaming up with people.

I doubt the game will ever be as magnificent and flawless as the hype that was generated by its promotion over the last few years has made people think it would be. In terms of my expectations for the game, I think it has exceeded them. I thought it was just going to be another shooter, but it does set itself apart from others in my eyes. I wouldn't say it's the best game I have ever played, but it is a good, solid game.

There are some fake reviewers out there as well. It's just people who like to see a game that has been hyped to the maximum fall completely on its arse. You can tell by the 0/10 scores with only and hour of play time clocked up. Either that or the review is just brought on by slight frustration at being restricted from playing the game for five minutes due to a server error or something else near launch time. There are some decent negative reviews out there that I have read though, which are fair. At least they explain why the game isn't as good as they thought it would be and why they dislike it. Rather than just saying Ubi**** and not giving any explanation whatsoever.

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#111  Edited By BigBadBully
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Decent game, put in an hour in the xbox one version. Seems like they need to add more servers. At the end of my gameplay I got taken out of the game and put into a que and was 304 on the list before getting back into the game. Also at times the net code is horrible, I would shoot enemies or use my sticky bomb ability and not register any damage. Hopefully maintenence is adding more servers, seems like they didn't prepare for the large amount of users.

Game is fun, just need to iron out the launch issues.

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#112 Vaasman
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Started playing today, probably about 3-4 hours in.

Eh, it's okay.

I definitely think the people pretending it's the worst thing ever are just being idiots. At the same time though I wouldn't say anything so far has really impressed me. Character customization sucked. Graphics are really good but not amazing. There's some really interesting graphical tech in certain places. Gunplay is about as good as bullet sponge enemies can be. AI is okayish, it gets the job done. Unit variety is good so far, but there's some suspension of disbelief that has to happen when guys charge your machine gun with a baseball bat. I also really worry about if the variety can keep up as the game goes on. Sound design is pretty nice. RPG options are solid enough.

Overall it's well produced and very competently made game, but nothing that really wows me. Only a few moment where I got excited so far, the rest seems pretty run of the mill. I'm just going through matchmaking and it's more fun with co-op, but I imagine with friends it's better.

I enjoy it enough that I'll probably play it through to see what endgame is like, but as soon as Dark Souls 3 comes out it'll get dropped hard, assuming it even lasts me that long.

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#113 Xaero_Gravity
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@Ballroompirate:

It has similar problems Destiny had when it comes to repetitive end game content, but unfortunately that's par for the course in this genre. If someone doesn't like repeating high level content in order to get better and better gear, they should stay away from this and similar games. Personally, I absolutely love it and can't stop playing.

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#114 wis3boi
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@Wasdie said:

It had a slightly annoying launch so people freaked out on Steam. Steam user reviews are generally garbage.

To prove this, it was at something like 80% positive, until the server died for 30min, then people vote bombed it...solely because of that server crash.

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#115 mjorh
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http://www.vg247.com/2016/03/09/the-division-sold-more-copies-in-first-24-hours-than-any-game-in-ubisofts-history/

The Division sold more copies in first 24 hours than any game in Ubisoft’s history

Wow!

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#116 lostrib
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looks like the review percent has risen quite a bit

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#117 cainetao11
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@thepclovingguy said:
@Wasdie said:
@thepclovingguy said:

The main issue with those "professional" reviewers is that they keep giving mainstream games like division or call of duty way too high scores. The highest scores should be reserved for games that are actually somewhat innovative and consist of above average gameplay.

The overall user score on steam, which is currently at 60%, seems quite fair in my opinion, its shows that the game is neither good nor bad, it's simply average. The game is meant to be played by the average gamer, who doesnt care about innovation or developed gameplay.

That's bullshit. Games are scored based on how fun they are and their build quality. Innovation doesn't guarantee a better game. Most of the time sticking with a variety of the formula that people know and love while making a very high quality product is going to produce a better game overall. Until an idea or style of gameplay becomes boring, stale, or there are simply other games doing the same thing better, it's not a problem for a new game.

The misconception with Call of Duty is that the game series is stagnant. From an outsider who wrote off that kind of gameplay years ago it may be, but to those who actually enjoy those games, there are a lot of meaningful changes and expanded breadth of gameplay in each iteration. The "worst" CoD in recent memory was Ghosts because it was too much of the same. Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 introduced unique mechanics as well as had competent storytelling, fantastic presentation, and a wide variety of gameplay options and game modes. They deserved their scores and success. Ghosts was a well made game with strong core fundamentals which was still fun to the majority of the fanbase, but the scores are noticeably lower than Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 because people were getting bored of that formula. Other CoD developers took note and made appropriate changes while Activision expanded the development cycle to three years to give devs more breathing room to make a better game.

Innovation can take an old game formula and make it fresh again, set apart a game of a particular genre from others, or create entire new experiences and forge new genres, but it's not a ticket to making a better game. Good games are made by developers who understand what makes a game great. Not just cobble together new gameplay mechanics for the sake of it. Innovation is driven by a necessity to innovate. If an idea is still fun and enjoyable, there is no reason to innovate. Games should not be punished because they stick with a formula that people enjoy. Only when it's no longer enjoyable is it a problem.

Basicly they should just release the same game with updated graphics every year and still recieve the highest score according to your logic.

That answer is stupid. That's not what he is saying at all, that's just what you wish to take from what he said.

@Wasdie Same can be said of the film industry. We know what is coming every summer. Explosions, car chases, sci fi, action/adventure, super heroes. There is no reason a formula film cant be a good film. And I agree with what you have clearly shared. Following a formula for a game is no different. It doesn't make said game a bad game and none of the buyers and fans of these games need justify their enjoyment of them to the elitist mentality (something you also touched on earlier) that detracts from these games existence. In short, you don't like it? Don't buy it. You gonna cry because so many do and its ruining teh gamezing for you? Get a new hobby.

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#118 Ballroompirate
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@Xaero_Gravity said:

@Ballroompirate:

It has similar problems Destiny had when it comes to repetitive end game content, but unfortunately that's par for the course in this genre. If someone doesn't like repeating high level content in order to get better and better gear, they should stay away from this and similar games. Personally, I absolutely love it and can't stop playing.

The thing is there's not that many lvl 30's and the chances are A LOT of people that are complaining are ether A.) not lvl 30 or B.) Haven't played the game.

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#119 cainetao11
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Well despite the amount of Internet hate and the lack of pre-release reviews, the game is a smash hit. Good job folks. You did it!

Proving once again that the know it alls here know absolutely shit. Selling a lot doesn't make it a good game/guess you like Justin Bieber then is the typical response now. I wouldn't open a business with 99% of the people here.

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#120 silversix_
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@mjorh said:

http://www.vg247.com/2016/03/09/the-division-sold-more-copies-in-first-24-hours-than-any-game-in-ubisofts-history/

The Division sold more copies in first 24 hours than any game in Ubisoft’s history

Wow!

makes you wonder why no one is going for the loot shooter genre. I remember when BL1 came out, the game was empty, there was nothing for you to do but run chests and collect items you can't use on anything because there's no content to use em in. Even with its flaw, it still sold a f*ckton. BL2 sold a lot. Destiny sold a lot and now The Division. Its kinda clear that there's a lot of people interested in the genre but strangely, we aren't getting any new games in the same genre. How hard is it to create a world, fill it with a loot generation engine? Devs are dumb. i kinda wish ME4 has some of the mechanics from those games but still retains its quality story telling.

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#121 mjorh
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@cainetao11 said:
@GoldenElementXL said:

Well despite the amount of Internet hate and the lack of pre-release reviews, the game is a smash hit. Good job folks. You did it!

Proving once again that the know it alls here know absolutely shit. Selling a lot doesn't make it a good game/guess you like Justin Bieber then is the typical response now. I wouldn't open a business with 99% of the people here.

lol

i agree with you but that's not true for all ppl here ... yeah here ppl read too much into games and they go into details but after all it's you that makes the decision and opinions always should be taken with a grain of salt.

@silversix_ said:
@mjorh said:

http://www.vg247.com/2016/03/09/the-division-sold-more-copies-in-first-24-hours-than-any-game-in-ubisofts-history/

The Division sold more copies in first 24 hours than any game in Ubisoft’s history

Wow!

makes you wonder why no one is going for the loot shooter genre. I remember when BL1 came out, the game was empty, there was nothing for you to do but run chests and collect items you can't use on anything because there's no content to use em in. Even with its flaw, it still sold a f*ckton. BL2 sold a lot. Destiny sold a lot and now The Division. Its kinda clear that there's a lot of people interested in the genre but strangely, we aren't getting any new games in the same genre. How hard is it to create a world, fill it with a loot generation engine? Devs are dumb. i kinda wish ME4 has some of the mechanics from those games but still retains its quality story telling.

I'm in line with you, tbh i kinda lean to get this game mainly because i wanna experience sth new and this experience is kinda new to me.

And no i don't want ME4 to be a game like this, ME series has its own charm.

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#122 sailor232
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I'm playing the game on pc and really like it. A pity there's maintenance on right now as I was just getting into it for tonight.

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#123 silversix_
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@mjorh: no, i don't want ME4 to be like the division either. What i want is more depth in the loot system and random drops like in the division/BL/diablo/destiny would be a good addition. ME1 already had something similar but the loot tables weren't big enough.

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#124  Edited By BassMan
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I just started playing it on PC. I am enjoying it so far. I had recently played the closed beta and I already knew it was game I was going to enjoy. It looks and runs great which is a bit of an oddity with all the broken Ubisoft games lately. I am sure I will get my money's worth.

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#125  Edited By cainetao11
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@mjorh: I exaggerate for jest of course.

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#126 thepclovingguy
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@cainetao11 said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@Wasdie said:
@thepclovingguy said:

The main issue with those "professional" reviewers is that they keep giving mainstream games like division or call of duty way too high scores. The highest scores should be reserved for games that are actually somewhat innovative and consist of above average gameplay.

The overall user score on steam, which is currently at 60%, seems quite fair in my opinion, its shows that the game is neither good nor bad, it's simply average. The game is meant to be played by the average gamer, who doesnt care about innovation or developed gameplay.

That's bullshit. Games are scored based on how fun they are and their build quality. Innovation doesn't guarantee a better game. Most of the time sticking with a variety of the formula that people know and love while making a very high quality product is going to produce a better game overall. Until an idea or style of gameplay becomes boring, stale, or there are simply other games doing the same thing better, it's not a problem for a new game.

The misconception with Call of Duty is that the game series is stagnant. From an outsider who wrote off that kind of gameplay years ago it may be, but to those who actually enjoy those games, there are a lot of meaningful changes and expanded breadth of gameplay in each iteration. The "worst" CoD in recent memory was Ghosts because it was too much of the same. Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 introduced unique mechanics as well as had competent storytelling, fantastic presentation, and a wide variety of gameplay options and game modes. They deserved their scores and success. Ghosts was a well made game with strong core fundamentals which was still fun to the majority of the fanbase, but the scores are noticeably lower than Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 because people were getting bored of that formula. Other CoD developers took note and made appropriate changes while Activision expanded the development cycle to three years to give devs more breathing room to make a better game.

Innovation can take an old game formula and make it fresh again, set apart a game of a particular genre from others, or create entire new experiences and forge new genres, but it's not a ticket to making a better game. Good games are made by developers who understand what makes a game great. Not just cobble together new gameplay mechanics for the sake of it. Innovation is driven by a necessity to innovate. If an idea is still fun and enjoyable, there is no reason to innovate. Games should not be punished because they stick with a formula that people enjoy. Only when it's no longer enjoyable is it a problem.

Basicly they should just release the same game with updated graphics every year and still recieve the highest score according to your logic.

That answer is stupid. That's not what he is saying at all, that's just what you wish to take from what he said.

@Wasdie Same can be said of the film industry. We know what is coming every summer. Explosions, car chases, sci fi, action/adventure, super heroes. There is no reason a formula film cant be a good film. And I agree with what you have clearly shared. Following a formula for a game is no different. It doesn't make said game a bad game and none of the buyers and fans of these games need justify their enjoyment of them to the elitist mentality (something you also touched on earlier) that detracts from these games existence. In short, you don't like it? Don't buy it. You gonna cry because so many do and its ruining teh gamezing for you? Get a new hobby.

If you enjoy this trash good for you, but don't complain about other people for not liking this rehashed trash. Copy pasting the same game every year shouldn't be percieved as a great achievement. A average score of 6 out of 10 fits the game really well.

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I could deal with how boring this game is if only the servers weren't slow as ****.

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@thepclovingguy: All wrong over here genius. I haven't bought a COD or yearly release like it in 7 years or so.

I didn't complain that you don't like them. I pointed out that your assessment of logic in Wasdie's post was lacking exactly that. All it contained was what you want to see when in fact there was more to it than that. Also if you're going to tell me don't complain about other people not liking something you should be practicing that principle by not complaining that reviewers maybe do like something.

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#129 thepclovingguy
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@cainetao11 said:

@thepclovingguy: All wrong over here genius. I haven't bought a COD or yearly release like it in 7 years or so.

I didn't complain that you don't like them. I pointed out that your assessment of logic in Wasdie's post was lacking exactly that. All it contained was what you want to see when in fact there was more to it than that. Also if you're going to tell me don't complain about other people not liking something you should be practicing that principle by not complaining that reviewers maybe do like something.

Reviewers are the supposed to tell us if the game is worth buying, not tell us over and over again how much they love call of duty. And wasdie's post wasn't making much sense either, you cant simply compare movies to video games. One is a collection of non interactive movie scenes while the other one requires the player's attention and input in order to function properly as a video game.

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#130 cainetao11
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@thepclovingguy said:
@cainetao11 said:

@thepclovingguy: All wrong over here genius. I haven't bought a COD or yearly release like it in 7 years or so.

I didn't complain that you don't like them. I pointed out that your assessment of logic in Wasdie's post was lacking exactly that. All it contained was what you want to see when in fact there was more to it than that. Also if you're going to tell me don't complain about other people not liking something you should be practicing that principle by not complaining that reviewers maybe do like something.

Reviewers are the supposed to tell us if the game is worth buying, not tell us over and over again how much they love call of duty. And wasdie's post wasn't making much sense either, you cant simply compare movies to video games. One is a collection of non interactive movie scenes while the other one requires the player's attention and input in order to function properly as a video game.

Movies don't require your attention? How does one come to a conclusion of liking or not liking a film if they didn't pay attention to it?

We'll have to agree to disagree. I totally understood Wasdie's post had more substance to it than "just keep making the same thing over and over", which by the way is a perfectly acceptable business model (that is what this industry really is) as long as it brings in rev.

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#131 ellos
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Its selling fast but I have learned my lesson from Destiny. I have seen this movie before. a lot of people are going to buy it and then complain later.

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#132 chriscoolguy
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What settings do you think I can run it on with my I7 4790k and Nvidia 970, 32 gigs of ram?

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#133 mjorh
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Dayum!

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I've been busy the last few days and haven't haven't been on any forums or anything though I've played maybe 4-5 hours of this game.

Honestly surprised at all the negativity on here. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The combat starts to improve once you unlock more abilities and new enemies start to show up. The environments are fantastic. The mission design is quite good for a game of this nature. There is a lot of stuff to do between main missions and I haven't even started on the Dark Zone yet. It looks amazing and runs great. Anyone who is surprised by a few server hiccups on launch week and are bitching about them are living in a fantasy land.

Honestly I have no idea where all this negativity is coming from. Ill-informed clowns like @thepclovingguy I guess. I've spent time playing with friends and randoms and both seem to be enjoying it so far.

Its not perfect or ground breaking but I'm having a good time with it.

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#135  Edited By thepclovingguy
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I've been busy the last few days and haven't haven't been on any forums or anything though I've played maybe 4-5 hours of this game.

Honestly surprised at all the negativity on here. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The combat starts to improve once you unlock more abilities and new enemies start to show up. The environments are fantastic. The mission design is quite good for a game of this nature. There is a lot of stuff to do between main missions and I haven't even started on the Dark Zone yet. It looks amazing and runs great. Anyone who is surprised by a few server hiccups on launch week and are bitching about them are living in a fantasy land.

Honestly I have no idea where all this negativity is coming from. Ill-informed clowns like @thepclovingguy I guess. I've spent time playing with friends and randoms and both seem to be enjoying it so far.

Its not perfect or ground breaking but I'm having a good time with it.

The only clown here is you for supporting games like the division, thats the very reason why games like call of duty just wont go away.

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@thepclovingguy said:
@with_teeth26 said:

I've been busy the last few days and haven't haven't been on any forums or anything though I've played maybe 4-5 hours of this game.

Honestly surprised at all the negativity on here. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The combat starts to improve once you unlock more abilities and new enemies start to show up. The environments are fantastic. The mission design is quite good for a game of this nature. There is a lot of stuff to do between main missions and I haven't even started on the Dark Zone yet. It looks amazing and runs great. Anyone who is surprised by a few server hiccups on launch week and are bitching about them are living in a fantasy land.

Honestly I have no idea where all this negativity is coming from. Ill-informed clowns like @thepclovingguy I guess. I've spent time playing with friends and randoms and both seem to be enjoying it so far.

Its not perfect or ground breaking but I'm having a good time with it.

The only clown here is you for supporting games like the division, thats the very reason why games like call of duty just wont go away.

I really dont understand what this game has to do with Call of Duty. thanks for verifying my statement

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#137 lostrib
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@thepclovingguy: why should this game or COD go away?

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#138 finalstar2007
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Flop or not the game already sold millions.. just to show you in the real world nobody gives a single f**k about a review in an online website lolz

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#139  Edited By Juub1990
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@lostrib said:

@thepclovingguy: why should this game or COD go away?

Are you Keanu Reeves by any chance?

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#140 lostrib
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@Juub1990: I don't know what that's supposed to mean

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@Juub1990: I don't know what that's supposed to mean

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@Juub1990: you mean Kevin Lomax?

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@finalstar2007: people give fucks all the time about reviews on a website

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@Juub1990: you mean Kevin Lomax?

Yes.

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@Juub1990: then no, my degree is in biology not law

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#146  Edited By thepclovingguy
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@with_teeth26 said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@with_teeth26 said:

I've been busy the last few days and haven't haven't been on any forums or anything though I've played maybe 4-5 hours of this game.

Honestly surprised at all the negativity on here. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The combat starts to improve once you unlock more abilities and new enemies start to show up. The environments are fantastic. The mission design is quite good for a game of this nature. There is a lot of stuff to do between main missions and I haven't even started on the Dark Zone yet. It looks amazing and runs great. Anyone who is surprised by a few server hiccups on launch week and are bitching about them are living in a fantasy land.

Honestly I have no idea where all this negativity is coming from. Ill-informed clowns like @thepclovingguy I guess. I've spent time playing with friends and randoms and both seem to be enjoying it so far.

Its not perfect or ground breaking but I'm having a good time with it.

The only clown here is you for supporting games like the division, thats the very reason why games like call of duty just wont go away.

I really dont understand what this game has to do with Call of Duty. thanks for verifying my statement

If you would just think for a second, you would come to the conclusion that the game brings nothing new to the table just like every call of duty, it basicly does what older ubigames have already done so many time over. Its basically nothing more than a dumb down mmo shooter and I personally dont care about that, if people enjoy it that's fine. However, I dont like when fanboys dismiss negative reviews as garbage or hate. I dont see how an average user score of 6/10 makes you guys so upset. 6/10 is neither bad nor good, its simply average.

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@thepclovingguy: so what?

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@thepclovingguy said:
@with_teeth26 said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@with_teeth26 said:

I've been busy the last few days and haven't haven't been on any forums or anything though I've played maybe 4-5 hours of this game.

Honestly surprised at all the negativity on here. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The combat starts to improve once you unlock more abilities and new enemies start to show up. The environments are fantastic. The mission design is quite good for a game of this nature. There is a lot of stuff to do between main missions and I haven't even started on the Dark Zone yet. It looks amazing and runs great. Anyone who is surprised by a few server hiccups on launch week and are bitching about them are living in a fantasy land.

Honestly I have no idea where all this negativity is coming from. Ill-informed clowns like @thepclovingguy I guess. I've spent time playing with friends and randoms and both seem to be enjoying it so far.

Its not perfect or ground breaking but I'm having a good time with it.

The only clown here is you for supporting games like the division, thats the very reason why games like call of duty just wont go away.

I really dont understand what this game has to do with Call of Duty. thanks for verifying my statement

If you would just think for a second, you would come to the conclusion that the game brings nothing new to the table just like every call of duty, it basicly does what older ubigames have already done so many time over. Its basically nothing more than a dumb down mmo shooter and I personally dont care about that, if people enjoy it that's fine. However, I dont like when fanboys dismiss negative reviews as garbage or hate. I dont see how an average user score of 6/10 makes you guys so upset. 6/10 is neither bad nor good, its simply average.

there is definitive proof in this thread that most of the user reviews so far are garbage/hate. Its way too soon for any balanced user reviews with reasonable perspective anyways. If outlets whose job it is to review a game as soon as possible haven't managed to get them out the door yet, why would random gamer's reviews be trustworthy.

Total Warhammer will be pretty much the same thing as recent Total War games but in a new universe. Should it get a 6/10 as well?

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Awesome game is well, awesome. Glad to see it having record sales. It's just so much fun to play, and it looks damn good too. Congrats to Ubisoft and the gamers for knocking this out of the park.

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@with_teeth26 said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@with_teeth26 said:
@thepclovingguy said:
@with_teeth26 said:

I've been busy the last few days and haven't haven't been on any forums or anything though I've played maybe 4-5 hours of this game.

Honestly surprised at all the negativity on here. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The combat starts to improve once you unlock more abilities and new enemies start to show up. The environments are fantastic. The mission design is quite good for a game of this nature. There is a lot of stuff to do between main missions and I haven't even started on the Dark Zone yet. It looks amazing and runs great. Anyone who is surprised by a few server hiccups on launch week and are bitching about them are living in a fantasy land.

Honestly I have no idea where all this negativity is coming from. Ill-informed clowns like @thepclovingguy I guess. I've spent time playing with friends and randoms and both seem to be enjoying it so far.

Its not perfect or ground breaking but I'm having a good time with it.

The only clown here is you for supporting games like the division, thats the very reason why games like call of duty just wont go away.

I really dont understand what this game has to do with Call of Duty. thanks for verifying my statement

If you would just think for a second, you would come to the conclusion that the game brings nothing new to the table just like every call of duty, it basicly does what older ubigames have already done so many time over. Its basically nothing more than a dumb down mmo shooter and I personally dont care about that, if people enjoy it that's fine. However, I dont like when fanboys dismiss negative reviews as garbage or hate. I dont see how an average user score of 6/10 makes you guys so upset. 6/10 is neither bad nor good, its simply average.

there is definitive proof in this thread that most of the user reviews so far are garbage/hate. Its way too soon for any balanced user reviews with reasonable perspective anyways. If outlets whose job it is to review a game as soon as possible haven't managed to get them out the door yet, why would random gamer's reviews be trustworthy.

Total Warhammer will be pretty much the same thing as recent Total War games but in a new universe. Should it get a 6/10 as well?

Again I am not talking about individual scores, they are just as reliable as any paid "proffessional" reviewer, what I am actually talking about is the overall user score. If the majority of people liked the game, then the overall user score will end up being mostly positive.