The Fad is over- Japan Sales: PS3 35k, X360 13k, Wii 22k

I'd wait a few weeks before making a claim like that. Wii's down because it has crap for games at the moment, but overall, NONE of the consoles are doing all that well.

It's not that Wii's doing piss poor; it's that handhelds have overtaken consoles for gaming in japan.

Why do you say the fad is over? It is obvious that the system was eventually going to peak and then become a steady selling system.

Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry over the fact that there still are people who deem the Wii to be a fad. :lol: :cry:

It is a fad. Thats the way the public treats it.

There's nothing saying fads can't last more than a year.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] If you're implying that I said that, then you are wrong as I said the opposite.

If you're asking a question, then the answer is no, to put it directly.

Famiking

you said this:

"the crappy sales of other consoles doesn't justify the crappy sales of the Wii"

if the crappy sales of the wii are higher than the crappy sales of the other consoles, isnt it logical to think that the wii is doing well?

btw, these 'crappy sales' are in the smallest region... have you seen the NA sales numbers? you wouldnt be making any of these claims if you did...

no, ALL the systems are doing terribly, but the Wii is still the successful one because IT IS OUTSELLING THE COMPETITION. i still dont see whats so hard to understand about that...

also, this is just 1 region... it sold over 670,000 last month in NA alone... severly trouncing the competition. it sold as much as the ps3 AND 360 combined.... fad you say? hm....

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Why do you say the fad is over? It is obvious that the system was eventually going to peak and then become a steady selling system.

Famiking

Yeah but Nintendo has not price cut it too $150 which will lead to those end of the life cycle sales.

I'd wait a few weeks before making a claim like that. Wii's down because it has crap for games at the moment, but overall, NONE of the consoles are doing all that well.

It's not that Wii's doing piss poor; it's that handhelds have overtaken consoles for gaming in japan.

Dingerious

See above argument. Also, this is the second week, it lost last week to the Xbox 360.Famiking

So, you're comparing Wii averagesales to Wii peak sales and saying they're worse than before? :? Isn't that obvious? What does it matter if they're still well ahead in the race?

I think the sales are mainly because of Yakuza 3. glenn2709

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Why do you say the fad is over? It is obvious that the system was eventually going to peak and then become a steady selling system.

Kahuna_1

Yeah but Nintendo has not price cut it too $150 which will lead to those end of the life cycle sales.

Oh man, wait till Resident Evil 5 comes out!

Poor wii :(

nintendo still got more sales then any of them but I hope people stop buying it its a poor excuse for a video game concole pretty soon it will be on the same level as the leap frog unless they make some good games

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] It's not steady, it's low, and generally the 3rd or 4th are the peak years, like 2004 for the PS2.Famiking

Yeah but Nintendo has not price cut it too $150 which will lead to those end of the life cycle sales.

wrong... see 360 arcade price cut for example

also, the ps3 has been selling alot more since its 'price cut' for over a year now...

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] It's not steady, it's low, and generally the 3rd or 4th are the peak years, like 2004 for the PS2.Famiking

Yeah but Nintendo has not price cut it too $150 which will lead to those end of the life cycle sales.

No...PS2 sold all its systems when it dropped to $200...I am not saying the Wii will mimic this, but it will sell around 10-15 million a year after Nintendo does a major price cut. They are the only ones since launch with no price drop and they are still blowing everyone away.

[QUOTE="Famiking"] See above argument. Also, this is the second week, it lost last week to the Xbox 360.Tsug_Ze_Wind

So, you're comparing Wii averagesales to Wii peak sales and saying they're worse than before? :? Isn't that obvious? What does it matter if they're still well ahead in the race?

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Yeah but Nintendo has not price cut it too $150 which will lead to those end of the life cycle sales.

Kahuna_1

No...PS2 sold all its systems when it dropped to $200...I am not saying the Wii will mimic this, but it will sell around 10-15 million a year after Nintendo does a major price cut. They are the only ones since launch with no price drop and they are still blowing everyone away.

guys please please
they probably had a strained supply of Wiis or something

that piece of not-so-good-quality-gaming-imho that we love to hate isn't going anywere
haven't it already sold about 50 million?

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Yeah but Nintendo has not price cut it too $150 which will lead to those end of the life cycle sales.

ogvampire

wrong... see 360 arcade price cut for example

also, the ps3 has been selling alot more since its 'price cut' for over a year now...

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] See above argument. Also, this is the second week, it lost last week to the Xbox 360.Famiking

So, you're comparing Wii averagesales to Wii peak sales and saying they're worse than before? :? Isn't that obvious? What does it matter if they're still well ahead in the race?

wow.... all your info is so wrong

it sells around 100k a week during the holidays

guys please please
they probably had a strained supply of Wiis or something

that piece of not-so-good-quality-gaming-imho that we love to hate isn't going anywere
haven't it already sold about 50 million?

Rhubarb9

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Will probably only bump it for 3-4 weeks just like all the other price cuts in history. And AFAIK, Wii is already $200 (or it's probably $250, but I think the Yen fell from its high rate, I may be wrong).Famiking

No...PS2 sold all its systems when it dropped to $200...I am not saying the Wii will mimic this, but it will sell around 10-15 million a year after Nintendo does a major price cut. They are the only ones since launch with no price drop and they are still blowing everyone away.

Ok, what is your point? They own Japan by a wide margin right now and losing 100k a year to the PS3 is not going to be devastating. You guys need to understand that the Wii is going to finish out on the top regardless of what you think about it.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Will probably only bump it for 3-4 weeks just like all the other price cuts in history. And AFAIK, Wii is already $200 (or it's probably $250, but I think the Yen fell from its high rate, I may be wrong).Famiking

wrong... see 360 arcade price cut for example

also, the ps3 has been selling alot more since its 'price cut' for over a year now...

ok. then show me proof that a price cut only bumps a console for 3-4 weeks, as you claim

Not only is it doing poorly compared to its own "peak" sales, it's doing poorly compared to other consoles poor sales. PS2 would hit 30k in its low times, but it eventually did average again at 50k. Wii seems to be averaging at 20k, and at around holidays it surrounds 50k in mid-holiday season. Famiking

Sure, if "other consoles" = the best-selling console of all time. I still don't see how this means the "fad" is dying. You just said yourself that there will be up and down periods.

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

So, you're comparing Wii averagesales to Wii peak sales and saying they're worse than before? :? Isn't that obvious? What does it matter if they're still well ahead in the race?

ogvampire

wow.... all your info is so wrong

it sells around 100k a week during the holidays

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

Wait, are you serious? You actually mean what you said on the OP? :lol:

AgentA-Mi6

It would if it wasn't for the fact that the Wii will get Dragon Quest X.

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Not only is it doing poorly compared to its own "peak" sales, it's doing poorly compared to other consoles poor sales. PS2 would hit 30k in its low times, but it eventually did average again at 50k. Wii seems to be averaging at 20k, and at around holidays it surrounds 50k in mid-holiday season. Tsug_Ze_Wind

Sure, if "other consoles" = the best-selling console of all time. I still don't see how this means the "fad" is dying. You just said yourself that there will be up and down periods.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Not only is it doing poorly compared to its own "peak" sales, it's doing poorly compared to other consoles poor sales. PS2 would hit 30k in its low times, but it eventually did average again at 50k. Wii seems to be averaging at 20k, and it surrounds 50k in mid-holiday season.

Famiking

wow.... all your info is so wrong

it sells around 100k a week during the holidays

hardly an achievement? the Wii outsold the GC in less than 2 years.... thats not an achievement? :roll:

hate away, dude. hate away....

Ok, what is your point? They own Japan by a wide margin right now and losing 100k a year to the PS3 is not going to be devastating. You guys need to understand that the Wii is going to finish out on the top regardless of what you think about it.

Kahuna_1

Other COMPARABLE consoles. If you want to compare it to a console that is selling slower than the Gamecube to justify your point, then be my guest, but that is hardly saying "It's selling great!". It's nearest neighbour is the PS2, the winner of the last-generation, if the Wii can't at least match those numbers, let alone be near it, then console gaming shrunk during Nintendo's prevalance and that isn't going to look good. And I said there'll be up periods, but they will be relatively short compared to the very long lasting drought periods. But even then, I said that in my lack of perspective for the long-term future.Famiking

I want to compare it to its current competition. That seems to make the most sense. Looking at the thread title, it appears you agree.

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

wrong... see 360 arcade price cut for example

also, the ps3 has been selling alot more since its 'price cut' for over a year now...

ogvampire

ok. then show me proof that a price cut only bumps a console for 3-4 weeks, as you claim

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] I was talking about Japan, this thread IS about Japan, I wouldn't be calling Wii a fad otherwise.Famiking

ok. then show me proof that a price cut only bumps a console for 3-4 weeks, as you claim

um... thats not how it works. you make the claim, you show the proof

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Other COMPARABLE consoles. If you want to compare it to a console that is selling slower than the Gamecube to justify your point, then be my guest, but that is hardly saying "It's selling great!". It's nearest neighbour is the PS2, the winner of the last-generation, if the Wii can't at least match those numbers, let alone be near it, then console gaming shrunk during Nintendo's prevalance and that isn't going to look good. And I said there'll be up periods, but they will be relatively short compared to the very long lasting drought periods. But even then, I said that in my lack of perspective for the long-term future.Tsug_Ze_Wind

I want to compare it to its current competition. That seems to make the most sense. Looking at the thread title, it appears you agree.

um... thats not how it works. you make the claim, you show the proofogvampire

Edit: This sounds like the inconvenient time to say it, but alas, it is time to sleep, it being 12:30 AM, with 10 hours of school and then 3 hours of tuition, it's not easy being me :P

Good night and nice debate :D If you want to continue then feel free to bump the thread or PM. /Good night.

You couldn't get it from MediaCreate or some other site could you, you had to go with 2ch *sigh*

Tiefster

Uh... 2ch gets it from MC/famitsu...

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]um... thats not how it works. you make the claim, you show the proofFamiking

no worries, i'll wait...

Most users would suggest reading outside the thread title. And if you want to compare it to current competition, then be my guest. But that's not how people would be comparing it in the long run as the results are oblivious. To me, it sounds very one-sided, as this war has already been decided.Famiking

It sounds like somewhere in this thread, the subject was changed. I'm not sure why "fad" was brought up at all, because when you're comparing sales to the PS2, it really doesn't help your argument in that regard.

At any rate, if you want to compare the dying fad with the best-selling console of all time, then go right ahead.

he he, psp out selling the 360hoosier7

wasnt it supose to?

Are peoplle truly thinking that the wii fad is over since its had a terrible start to 09? There are no games to pump up sales people. What has been released that could sustain those kind of hardware sales? Yakuza 3 is the reason the PS3 is so high, in a month it will be back to mediocore levels with the rest of the consoles. The wii will not have a major bump until monster Hunter G comes out. If the sales get so bad, nintendo could

a) introduce new colours
b) introduce a bundle
c) drop the price, they haven't had one yet

I don't see all the doom and gloom. On top of that, what PS3 game is coming out after Biohazard 5 that will sell consoles? People look towards the present so much when looking at sales. Trends and games will decide how consoles sell, not fanboy delusions.

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Famiking"] So when did PS3 have these somewhat lengthy boosts in sales (in terms of time)?

Wii had a time, that time is now gone. PS3 never had a time, and it may never will. It's just a product that failed to take off, not a fad.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Japan&cons2=PS3®2=Japan&cons3=X360®3=Japan&start=39509&end=39873

Maybe the reason Japanese people aren't bying teh Wii now is because a lot of them got them around christmas.