The Fad is over- Japan Sales: PS3 35k, X360 13k, Wii 22k

I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry over the fact that there still are people who deem the Wii to be a fad. :lol: :cry:

Hexagon_777

All consoles are fads. No console stays forever, eventually the PS2 will die and it will be a fad. (How long it stayed is irrelevant, once it dies that's it)

So basically every console leader is a fad? After 2 years of high volumes of sales? Jerell_rast

[QUOTE="Jerell_rast"]So basically every console leader is a fad? After 2 years of high volumes of sales? Famiking

Since some of you desperately need visual representation, since you keep on with your "2 years of good sales!", here you have it

and flatlining

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Jerell_rast"]So basically every console leader is a fad? After 2 years of high volumes of sales? Grinning_Demon

Lets not be fanboys as much as I hate the Wii we all know when the holidays come around it will be breaking record againWolfang07

Since some of you desperately need visual representation, since you keep on with your "2 years of good sales!", here you have itFamiking

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Since some of you desperately need visual representation, since you keep on with your "2 years of good sales!", here you have itGundamGuy0

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[QUOTE="Famiking"]

Since some of you desperately need visual representation, since you keep on with your "2 years of good sales!", here you have itFamiking

Your time tables are also suspect... I mean that might be true of other hugely successful consoles in the past, but that doesn't mean that those consoles behaved noramally.

Your only looking at Japan sales... The Wii hasn't started to decrease it's rate of sales globally yet...

GundamGuy0

If you want to discuss WW sales, then please help yourself and make your own thread.

Also, are you saying that every other consoles had abnormal sales, while the Wii is the only normal one? It's called a product life cycle, here's to put it simply

1. Introduction
2. Growth
3. Maturity
4. Decline
5. Death.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"]

Since some of you desperately need visual representation, since you keep on with your "2 years of good sales!", here you have itFamiking

what you do not take into account is that this whole time the wii has been outselling the competition, yet you still ignore that fact even though it has been brought up many times. i can bring up percentages to spin this whichever way i want, but there is one fact that still remains: Wii outsells every other console

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] Your only looking at Japan sales... The Wii hasn't started to decrease it's rate of sales globally yet...

Famiking

If you want to discuss WW sales, then please help yourself and make your own thread.

what you do not take into account is that this whole time the wii has been outselling the competition, yet you still ignore that fact even though it has been brought up many times. i can bring up percentages to spin this whichever way i want, but there is one fact that still remains: Wii outsells every other console

ogvampire

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] Your only looking at Japan sales... The Wii hasn't started to decrease it's rate of sales globally yet...

Famiking

If you want to discuss WW sales, then please help yourself and make your own thread.

Also, are you saying that every other consoles had abnormal sales, while the Wii is the only normal one? It's called a product life cycle, here's to put it simply

1. Introduction
2. Growth
3. Maturity
4. Decline
5. Death.

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] Your only looking at Japan sales... The Wii hasn't started to decrease it's rate of sales globally yet...

GundamGuy0

If you want to discuss WW sales, then please help yourself and make your own thread.

From what I've seen and heard, I think its safe to call the wii's sales dominance as a "fad"!

A good personal example that I've seen is a comparisonto a really old fad (tickle me Elmo)!

When that doll came out, during the holiday seasonall my Aunts got hyped up and ran out and bought one for all the little kids in the family. They played with it for a little bit and threw it in a closet somewhere.

I saw the same thing happen with the wii. When the holidays rolled around, all my aunts got hyped up and went out and bought them for the new little kids in the family, the kids played wii sports for a couple weeks, my aunts and uncles laughed and said how cute it was, and then they threw it in the closet.

That is what I call a fad!

Now I'm not saying the wii itself is a fad, I'm just saying its casual appeal and resulting sales are a fad! Same goes with wii fit!

Yes, I know the product cycle, your time table is what's off.... Not the stages, when you suggest they happen is what's wrong. Because when the stages happen vary from product to product.

GundamGuy0

It most certainly isn't the "normal sales curve for consumer durables" you make it out to be.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]what you do not take into account is that this whole time the wii has been outselling the competition, yet you still ignore that fact even though it has been brought up many times. i can bring up percentages to spin this whichever way i want, but there is one fact that still remains: Wii outsells every other console

Famiking

spin spin spin away...

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Famiking"] If this isn't the 100th time I stated this - this thread is about Japan, it's in the thread title. I can put it in Size 10 font in the OP if you like.

If you want to discuss WW sales, then please help yourself and make your own thread.

Famiking

To those wondering why: just like why they went out and bought droves of 360's because Star ocean came out, they are now going out and buying PS3 in droves because Yakuza 3 just came out last week ;) . Fad #280,000,000 ends Fad #280,000,001 begins....

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] Yes, I know the product cycle, your time table is what's off.... Not the stages, when you suggest they happen is what's wrong. Because when the stages happen vary from product to product.

Famiking

It most certainly isn't the "normal sales curve for consumer durables" you make it out to be.

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] So the fad is over, but only in Japan... GundamGuy0

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] Yes, I know the product cycle, your time table is what's off.... Not the stages, when you suggest they happen is what's wrong. Because when the stages happen vary from product to product.

GundamGuy0

It most certainly isn't the "normal sales curve for consumer durables" you make it out to be.

To those wondering why: just like why they went out and bought droves of 360's because Star ocean came out, they are now going out and buying PS3 in droves because Yakuza 3 just came out last week ;) . Fad #280,000,000 ends Fad #280,000,001 begins....

Ilikemyname420

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[QUOTE="Famiking"] To put it simply, yes. Did I ever say otherwise?Famiking

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Famiking"] I agree that they do vary, but if the variance is not a good thing, then to hell with it.

It most certainly isn't the "normal sales curve for consumer durables" you make it out to be.

Famiking

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] No, but why was it a fad in Japan? The reason the Wii isn't selling as fast as the PS2 in japan is because the DS has dominated the market.

GundamGuy0

So does this explain the Wii doing 20k while the PS2 was doing 50k at the same point? Hardly, especially given that now is the DS's saturation point, while the GBA was still alive and well back then.

im interested in seeing what your 'spin' is when DQ9 and Monster Hunter 3 release, also a price drop and new colors... all of which havent happened and are guaranteed to spur further sales....

im sure it will be quite entertaining to see your twists on reality

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] It is actually. It has the slow start, then rapid growth, then declining growth of a typical consumer durables sales curve. What your looking at as the problem is the short time at which it reached it's peak. GundamGuy0

The bumps you see are holiday seasons.

im interested in seeing what your 'spin' is when DQ9 and Monster Hunter 3 release, also a price drop and new colors... all of which havent happened and are guaranteed to spur further sales....

im sure it will be quite entertaining to see your twists on reality

ogvampire

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[QUOTE="Famiking"] What do you mean by slow start? It's start was the fastest. It then declined ever since and never picked back up.Famiking

The bumps you see are holiday seasons.

contradictions are wonderful, arent they?

if there is a decrease in sales from lack of consumer interest, the Wii wouldnt MASSACRE the competition during the holidays, right? i mean, the consumers dont have any interest anymore, right?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

im interested in seeing what your 'spin' is when DQ9 and Monster Hunter 3 release, also a price drop and new colors... all of which havent happened and are guaranteed to spur further sales....

im sure it will be quite entertaining to see your twists on reality

Famiking

spin and dodge, spin and dodge... thats all you do

congrats

contradictions are wonderful, arent they?

if there is a decrease in sales from lack of consumer interest, the Wii wouldnt MASSACRE the competition during the holidays, right? i mean, the consumers dont have any interest anymore, right?

ogvampire

There isn't much to massacre either way, the competition is practically legless crawling zombies.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] What do you mean by slow start? It's start was the fastest. It then declined ever since and never picked back up.Famiking

The bumps you see are holiday seasons.

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

im interested in seeing what your 'spin' is when DQ9 and Monster Hunter 3 release, also a price drop and new colors... all of which havent happened and are guaranteed to spur further sales....

im sure it will be quite entertaining to see your twists on reality

ogvampire

spin and dodge, spin and dodge... thats all you do

congrats

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Famiking"] So why didn't PS2s sales slow down in the result of the GBA?Famiking

So does this explain the Wii doing 20k while the PS2 was doing 50k at the same point? Hardly, especially given that now is the DS's saturation point, while the GBA was still alive and well back then.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

contradictions are wonderful, arent they?

if there is a decrease in sales from lack of consumer interest, the Wii wouldnt MASSACRE the competition during the holidays, right? i mean, the consumers dont have any interest anymore, right?

Famiking

There isn't much to massacre either way, the competition is practically legless crawling zombies.

definition of 'lack':

lack (lāk)
n.

1. Deficiency or absence

i bolded the important part

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] It you look at the curve the rate of sales, (Slope), is slower in the first few points, then it increased, and then it decreased again. This all happen very quickly, but it's there.

GundamGuy0

The bumps you see are holiday seasons.

From what I've seen and heard, I think its safe to call the wii's sales dominance as a "fad"!

A good personal example that I've seen is a comparisonto a really old fad (tickle me Elmo)!

When that doll came out, during the holiday seasonall my Aunts got hyped up and ran out and bought one for all the little kids in the family. They played with it for a little bit and threw it in a closet somewhere.

I saw the same thing happen with the wii. When the holidays rolled around, all my aunts got hyped up and went out and bought them for the new little kids in the family, the kids played wii sports for a couple weeks, my aunts and uncles laughed and said how cute it was, and then they threw it in the closet.

That is what I call a fad!

Now I'm not saying the wii itself is a fad, I'm just saying its casual appeal and resulting sales are a fad! Same goes with wii fit!

kenakuma

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Is this a "you're a fanboy! :cry:" post in disguise? That's all I got out of it.

Famiking

spin and dodge, spin and dodge... thats all you do

congrats

of course, i have contributed facts and logic...

you, on the other hand, are just claiming something that just about every other person on this thread disagrees with...

ok. so to you, the wii is a fad... to the rest of the world its a success.

I don't even know why people care about sales

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

contradictions are wonderful, arent they?

if there is a decrease in sales from lack of consumer interest, the Wii wouldnt MASSACRE the competition during the holidays, right? i mean, the consumers dont have any interest anymore, right?

ogvampire

There isn't much to massacre either way, the competition is practically legless crawling zombies.

definition of 'lack':

lack (lāk)
n.

1. Deficiency or absence

i bolded the important part

"There was a lack of protein in his diet" doesn't necessarily mean there was no protein at all.

Either way, I don't want to get in to English Warz, you know what I meant.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Famiking"] The slow sales is because of shortages. The decrease is because of lack of consumer interest.

The bumps you see are holiday seasons.

Famiking

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Is this a "you're a fanboy! :cry:" post in disguise? That's all I got out of it.

Famiking

spin and dodge, spin and dodge... thats all you do

congrats

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Lack, not absence.

There isn't much to massacre either way, the competition is practically legless crawling zombies.

Famiking

definition of 'lack':

lack (lāk)
n.

1. Deficiency or absence

i bolded the important part

"There was a lack of protein in his diet" doesn't necessarily mean there was no protein at all.

Either way, I don't want to get in to English Warz, you know what I meant.

spin spin spin... lol! wow.... you must definately work for some pr firm

of course, i have contributed facts and logic...

you, on the other hand, are just claiming something that just about every other person on this thread disagrees with...

ok. so to you, the wii is a fad... to the rest of the world its a success.

ogvampire

Also, what have you contributed asides from just jumping on my back and calling me a fanboy?

And I'm not just claiming, unless you just ignored all the graphs I posted, which I wouldn't be surprised if you did. Hexagon and GundamGuy are the only ones who put up a decent argument (I'm probably missing others, but you get the point).

I don't even know why people care about sales

cody3232

spin spin spin... lol! wow.... you must definately work for some pr firm

ogvampire

remember when you made this claim regarding price drops?:

"Will probably only bump it for 3-4 weeks just like all the other price cuts in history"

well, im still waiting for your proof