The Greatest Comback In VideoGame History. Overall Quality Library PS3 vs 360.

You know, these comparisons are why I think reviewers should ditch the scoring system all together. Scores are being abused to hell and back. Want to know how good a game is? Play it. Or hell, read the goddamn review. Don't use the score. SilverChimera

[QUOTE="opex07"]

MetaCritic AA+

360: 74

PS3: 40

unless 34 of those 360 games are arcade games, and the PS3 list has no arcade games (which it doesn't) there is no way PS3 can be beating the 360 in overall library.

Gamtrix

I messed up metacritic was listing 100 games per page and not 30 like I originally thought so the numbers are:

MC AA+

360: 286

PS3:179

I quickly counted all the arcade games and DL content for the 360 and the number was around 56 so that means that the 360 has 230 AA+, and the PS3 only 179 including arcade games which still need to be taken out. So the 360 still has quite a lead over the PS3.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="opex07"]

MetaCritic AA+

360: 74

PS3: 40

unless 34 of those 360 games are arcade games, and the PS3 list has no arcade games (which it doesn't) there is no way PS3 can be beating the 360 in overall library.

opex07

I messed up metacritic was listing 100 games per page and not 30 like I originally thought so the numbers are:

MC AA+

360: 286

PS3:179

I quickly counted all the arcade games and DL content for the 360 and the number was 56 so that means that the 360 has 227 AA+, and the PS3 only 179 including arcade games which still need to be taken out. So the 360 still has quite a lead over the PS3.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="opex07"]

MetaCritic AA+

360: 74

PS3: 40

unless 34 of those 360 games are arcade games, and the PS3 list has no arcade games (which it doesn't) there is no way PS3 can be beating the 360 in overall library.

opex07

I messed up metacritic was listing 100 games per page and not 30 like I originally thought so the numbers are:

MC AA+

360: 286

PS3:179

I quickly counted all the arcade games and DL content for the 360 and the number was 56 so that means that the 360 has 227 AA+, and the PS3 only 179 including arcade games which still need to be taken out. So the 360 still has quite a lead over the PS3.

Opex, I meant to add, if you see missing games, just list them with their score and release date and I'll add them. Be them PS3 or 360 titles.

Edit. No need for double post.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="opex07"]

MetaCritic AA+

360: 74

PS3: 40

unless 34 of those 360 games are arcade games, and the PS3 list has no arcade games (which it doesn't) there is no way PS3 can be beating the 360 in overall library.

opex07

I messed up metacritic was listing 100 games per page and not 30 like I originally thought so the numbers are:

MC AA+

360: 286

PS3:179

I quickly counted all the arcade games and DL content for the 360 and the number was around 56 so that means that the 360 has 230 AA+, and the PS3 only 179 including arcade games which still need to be taken out. So the 360 still has quite a lead over the PS3.

[QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Check yourself, 360 fans thought they had a better library then they actually do. That's the downside of just looking at number for face value and not actually listing games. Those "missing" games are arcade titles and DLC packs etc... 1stPlaceWinner

I messed up metacritic was listing 100 games per page and not 30 like I originally thought so the numbers are:

MC AA+

360: 286

PS3:179

I quickly counted all the arcade games and DL content for the 360 and the number was around 56 so that means that the 360 has 230 AA+, and the PS3 only 179 including arcade games which still need to be taken out. So the 360 still has quite a lead over the PS3.

No need for all that math, I've done all the work for us, it's all in the OP and the PS3 has the more impressive library by a mile imo, higher review average, more exclusives, more variety, more up to date library. Plus it has a much brighter future imo.

Opex, I meant to add, if you see missing games, just list them with their score and release date and I'll add them. Be them PS3 or 360 titles.

Edit. No need for double post.

Gamtrix

you've put "IMO" twice in that post. i thought this thread was supposed to be objective.

tc was doing exclusives between the two systems though1stPlaceWinner

* I have compiled every AA+ game on Metacritic for the 360 and the PS3 that is NOT on the other system, doesn't matter if it's multiplat or exclusive, this is the fairest way to compare the 360 to the PS3 in terms of Quality Games. Gamtrix

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] tc was doing exclusives between the two systems thoughopex07

* I have compiled every AA+ game on Metacritic for the 360 and the PS3 that is NOT on the other system, doesn't matter if it's multiplat or exclusive, this is the fairest way to compare the 360 to the PS3 in terms of Quality Games. Gamtrix

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Not in my opinion, I'll play an A game sure, but I usually only buy 85+ games, save a rare exception for a beloved franchise or an extremely sweet deal. Quality games are 90+ imo, maybe 85+, at the very least 80+. A games are NOT quality games, good games sure, some of them, not even all of them. And don't use what the rating scale uses as a direct adjective, just because gamespot says 7.0 = good and 10 = prime doesn't mean people call those games prime. A great games is usually 9+, a good games is 8+. 7's are usually universally considered flops by gamers. At least from my experience.Gamtrix

The logical way to do it would be to include all A games and above obviously because they are considered good quality, great quality and then superb quality. Skipping all good quality games (A) is silly. Making the cut off point 7.0 and skipping all mediocre / average games and below does make sense. I really don't see who you can argue against this.

back so soon Mestitia?:lol:

at least you didn't make it so easy with your usual 85+ this time around.;)

spoke too soon, already arguing the 85+ in posts outside of OP.

back so soon Mestitia?:lol:

at least you didn't make it so easy with your usual 85+ this time around.;)

HavocV3

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] tc was doing exclusives between the two systems thoughopex07

* I have compiled every AA+ game on Metacritic for the 360 and the PS3 that is NOT on the other system, doesn't matter if it's multiplat or exclusive, this is the fairest way to compare the 360 to the PS3 in terms of Quality Games. Gamtrix

meh

greatest come back really? its playstation they shouldnt even be in last place

[QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] [QUOTE="Gamtrix"] * I have compiled every AA+ game on Metacritic for the 360 and the PS3 that is NOT on the other system, doesn't matter if it's multiplat or exclusive, this is the fairest way to compare the 360 to the PS3 in terms of Quality Games. red12355

Hey www.metacritic.com It's a free public site. Check if you think somethings missing, I didn't purposly forget anything. That would just be setting myself up for ownage.

I have updated the OP with one more stat, average review score. PS3:87.6 360: 82.6 That almost seems too off to be true, if anyone wants to double check I might have done something wrong, a 5 point average difference is HUGE.

Nobody posting so you had to bump your own thread?red12355

You forgot a few games for the 360:

Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium wars
Tomb Raider: Legend
Peter jackson's King Kong
Flatout Ultimate Carnage

all AA+ on MC

as well Bully Scholarship Edition since your counting collections for the PS3 that are not on the 360...

Then theres Tiger woods PGA tour 08, and Madden NFL 07, etc.. That are AA on the 360 while not on the PS3, unless A games count only towards the PS3.

[QUOTE="red12355"]Nobody posting so you had to bump your own thread?Gamtrix

Its not really a valuable statistic, as it means nothing. The 360s library is much larger than the PS3s. If both libraries were the same same size, then that statistic would mean something ... but thats not the case.

[QUOTE="red12355"]Nobody posting so you had to bump your own thread?Gamtrix

Personally, the greatesrt come back in gaming lately for me is... EA. Remember how much everyone hated EA a few years back? They have really won gamers over I think, espeacially the Sony fans.iammason

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="red12355"]Nobody posting so you had to bump your own thread?Anjunaddict

Its not really a valuable statistic, as it means nothing. The 360s library is much larger than the PS3s. If both libraries were the same same size, then that statistic would mean something ... but thats not the case.

You forgot a few games for the 360:

Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium wars
Tomb Raider: Legend
Peter jackson's King Kong
Flatout Ultimate Carnage

all AA+ on MC

as well Bully Scholarship Edition since your counting collections for the PS3 that are not on the 360...

Then theres Tiger woods PGA tour 08, and Madden NFL 07, etc.. That are AA on the 360 while not on the PS3, unless A games count only towards the PS3.

Shift05

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] It wasn't a bump, it was an update, I added a valuable statistic to the thread now that I don't expect any more games to be added. Gamtrix

Its not really a valuable statistic, as it means nothing. The 360s library is much larger than the PS3s. If both libraries were the same same size, then that statistic would mean something ... but thats not the case.

I thought the statistic was for overall library. So is that just based on the titles you've gathered together in the opening post? Because in that case, its even more inaccurate and useless.

[QUOTE="Shift05"]

You forgot a few games for the 360:

Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium wars
Tomb Raider: Legend
Peter jackson's King Kong
Flatout Ultimate Carnage

all AA+ on MC

as well Bully Scholarship Edition since your counting collections for the PS3 that are not on the 360...

Then theres Tiger woods PGA tour 08, and Madden NFL 07, etc.. That are AA on the 360 while not on the PS3, unless A games count only towards the PS3.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

Its not really a valuable statistic, as it means nothing. The 360s library is much larger than the PS3s. If both libraries were the same same size, then that statistic would mean something ... but thats not the case.

Anjunaddict

I thought the statistic was for overall library. So is that just based on the titles you've gathered together in the opening post? Because in that case, its even more inaccurate and useless.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Shift05"]

You forgot a few games for the 360:

Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium wars
Tomb Raider: Legend
Peter jackson's King Kong
Flatout Ultimate Carnage

all AA+ on MC

as well Bully Scholarship Edition since your counting collections for the PS3 that are not on the 360...

Then theres Tiger woods PGA tour 08, and Madden NFL 07, etc.. That are AA on the 360 while not on the PS3, unless A games count only towards the PS3.

Gamtrix

Hey, you wanted to make a killer thread. Takes work, man. :P

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] 30 to 26 is much larger? :?Gamtrix

I thought the statistic was for overall library. So is that just based on the titles you've gathered together in the opening post? Because in that case, its even more inaccurate and useless.

Here's a simplified example of what you're doing:

System A has a game with a 100 MC (metacritic) score. The average for system A is 100.

System B has two games, one with a 100 MC score and another with a 90 MC score.

The average for system B is 95. Does it follow that system A is better than system B? By claiming that system A is indeed better, you're penalizing system B for having more games, even though system B's library easily matches (and surpasses) system A's library.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

I thought the statistic was for overall library. So is that just based on the titles you've gathered together in the opening post? Because in that case, its even more inaccurate and useless.

red12355

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] How so? That stat shows the owning the PS3 gives you access to higher scoring games. Seems like a worthwhile stat to me, specially when the difference is a massive 5 points. Gamtrix

Edit: And you should mention that some high scoring 360 games weren't included because the PS3 was the smallest denominator.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

[QUOTE="red12355"] Faulty logic. Here's a simplified example of what you're doing: System A has a game with a 100 MC (metacritic) score. The average for system A is 100. System B has two games, one with a 100 MC score and another with a 90 MC score. The average for system B is 95. Does it follow that system A is better than system B? By claiming that system A is indeed better, you're penalizing system B for having more games, even though system B easily matches (and surpasses) system A's library.red12355

Just going on Gamefly I can pick from 704 games to rent for the 360 compared to the PS3 which has 554.

Cool list though but in the end all it shows is that the PS3 and 360 have a similar amount of similarly rated exclusives while ignoring the fact that the majority of the other 90% of the multiplatform games released look and play better on the 360.

Just going on Gamefly I can pick from 704 games to rent for the 360 compared to the PS3 which has 554.

Cool list though but in the end all it shows is that the PS3 and 360 have a similar amount of similarly rated exclusives while ignoring the fact that the majority of the other 90% of the multiplatform games released look and play better on the 360.

VladJasonDrac

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]LOL It's 30 vs 26 not 100 vs 2... :P The stat is not tainted by such a tiny difference.

Gamtrix

Edit: I might have added wrong. Do a double check please.

Why are you counting some multiplats? Comparing both libraries as a whole would be better, unless you want to compare exclusives only.abuabed

Why are you counting some multiplats? Comparing both libraries as a whole would be better, unless you want to compare exclusives only.abuabed

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="red12355"] It is. If you wanted to be fair, you could take the top 26 360 games and that the average of that to compare with the top 26 PS3 games. red12355

Edit: I might have added wrong. Do a double check please.

[QUOTE="red12355"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Try it, I bet the the outcome will be the same... And no it isn't tainted. 4 games difference... Gamtrix

Edit: I might have added wrong. Do a double check please.

[QUOTE="Jcgamez"]This isn't metacritic, 360 has more high scoring exclusives here on gamespotGamtrix

if you're doing the metagame, as you claim, it's gs we use. :?

[QUOTE="VladJasonDrac"]

Just going on Gamefly I can pick from 704 games to rent for the 360 compared to the PS3 which has 554.

Cool list though but in the end all it shows is that the PS3 and 360 have a similar amount of similarly rated exclusives while ignoring the fact that the majority of the other 90% of the multiplatform games released look and play better on the 360.

Gamtrix

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="Jcgamez"]This isn't metacritic, 360 has more high scoring exclusives here on gamespotCaseyWegner

if you're doing the metagame, as you claim, it's gs we use. :?

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="VladJasonDrac"]

Just going on Gamefly I can pick from 704 games to rent for the 360 compared to the PS3 which has 554.

Cool list though but in the end all it shows is that the PS3 and 360 have a similar amount of similarly rated exclusives while ignoring the fact that the majority of the other 90% of the multiplatform games released look and play better on the 360.

OhSnapitz