The Greatest Comback In VideoGame History. Overall Quality Library PS3 vs 360.

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#251 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I was told directly by a Mod that as long as you use reasonable arguements anythings game. So please don't try to derail the thread. Gamespot's opinion is counted in this thread as they're a part of Metacritic. Gamtrix

if you're doing the metagame, as you claim, it's gs we use. :?

Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

you're the one who said he's going along with the metagame. it's always used gamespot. it's why the spreadsheet is linked in the stickied info thread. this is cool and all but...

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#252 red12355
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You also forgot to add a the games that were mentioned a page ago.
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#253 clone01
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Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

Gamtrix

why does it matter so much to you? and why did you link it in your sig? do you think this is some grand form of ownage?

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#254 pc-ps360
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i vote meh. because the greatest comback in video game history is nintendo with its wii

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#255 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

if you're doing the metagame, as you claim, it's gs we use. :?

CaseyWegner

Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

you're the one who said he's going along with the metagame. it's always used gamespot. it's why the spreadsheet is linked in the stickied info thread. this is cool and all but...

Well the metagame exists outside of gamespot, the console war metagame is pretty much happening all over the internet, youtube, Gametrailers, IGN, Neogaf, VGchartz, N4G etc etc. That's what I meant, not the specific hype/flop/SW Spreadsheet Metagame.
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#256 VendettaRed07
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I dont think its as much as a comeback as it is a falling from grace for the 360. Like seriously their first party seems really dead at this point and we havent really gotten any new insteresting games in a while. Sure alan wake was alright but that game was delayed for like 4 years,

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#257 clone01
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

Gamtrix

you're the one who said he's going along with the metagame. it's always used gamespot. it's why the spreadsheet is linked in the stickied info thread. this is cool and all but...

Well the metagame exists outside of gamespot, the console war metagame is pretty much happening all over the internet, youtube, Gametrailers, IGN, Neogaf, VGchartz, N4G etc etc. That's what I meant, not the specific hype/flop/SW Spreadsheet Metagame.

but...you're on gamespot. perhaps your efforts would be appreciated more at ign.
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#258 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

clone01

why does it matter so much to you? and why did you link it in your sig? do you think this is some grand form of ownage?

Yep, just like how PS3 won E3. But he didn't link that one. Anyway, as stated GS scores are what count here, this thread is nice and all (kind of) but it means nothing here, no ownage, no nothing.
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#259 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

clone01

why does it matter so much to you? and why did you link it in your sig? do you think this is some grand form of ownage?

Listen Clone01 I respect you as a poster, but half the posts I respond to you I end up getting moderated, as polite as I try to debate with you, I'm not accusing you of anything, but I think it's best if we not discuss these things anymore as I'd like to stick around.
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#260 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

Gamtrix

why does it matter so much to you? and why did you link it in your sig? do you think this is some grand form of ownage?

Listen Clone01 I respect you as a poster, but half the posts I respond to you I end up getting moderated, as polite as I try to debate with you, I'm not accusing you of anything, but I think it's best if we not discuss these things anymore as I'd like to stick around.

i don't understand, though, you linked this thread in your sig, and many people have posted compelling counters, but you seem to act as if this is definitive proof of something.
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#261 clone01
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I dont think its as much as a comeback as it is a falling from grace for the 360. Like seriously their first party seems really dead at this point and we havent really gotten any new insteresting games in a while. Sure alan wake was alright but that game was delayed for like 4 years,

VendettaRed07
that's a good point. 360 has sputtered a bit. i really would like to see some new ip's from microsoft, but i think they want the money of multiplat sales. that being said, halo reach and gears 3 are two of my most anticipated games.
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#262 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

I dont think its as much as a comeback as it is a falling from grace for the 360. Like seriously their first party seems really dead at this point and we havent really gotten any new insteresting games in a while. Sure alan wake was alright but that game was delayed for like 4 years,

clone01
that's a good point. 360 has sputtered a bit. i really would like to see some new ip's from microsoft, but i think they want the money of multiplat sales. that being said, halo reach and gears 3 are two of my most anticipated games.

Same. Hopefully that Codename Kingdoms game turns out to be interesting. (OMG IF IT'S A KINECT GAME!!!!!! RAGE!!)
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#263 delta3074
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

Gamtrix

why does it matter so much to you? and why did you link it in your sig? do you think this is some grand form of ownage?

Listen Clone01 I respect you as a poster, but half the posts I respond to you I end up getting moderated, as polite as I try to debate with you, I'm not accusing you of anything, but I think it's best if we not discuss these things anymore as I'd like to stick around.

your sig is a joke, all this is hardly proof that the Ps3 is better than the 360, i could just as easily say that the 360 is better than the Ps3 because it has a higher install base and has a higher software attach rate, your sig should say 'ps3 has a better libray than the 360 in my opinion'
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#264 YankeesNYC4life
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ps3 has the best library, i think everyone knows that, but im glad i have both

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#265 clone01
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ps3 has the best library, i think everyone knows that, but im glad i have both

YankeesNYC4life
no, apparently a 14 page thread would disagree with you. in the end, its really all opinion. you can twist metacritic and GS scores to 360 or ps3 or wii, but in the end, its the choice of the gamer.
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#266 darthkirmy
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PS3 has made an epic comback, congrats to Sony, Microsoft pretty much lost steam ever since MGS4 smacked system wars, all 360 has now is Reach, and half a year later...Gears3iMojo786_PSN
Which is why the Xbox 360 still sells better than PS3??? If we are going by success of the systems and their companies overall the 360 is by far and away the winner of this generation. If there was not another exclusive for the xbox this generation and ps3 got AAAAE games from here on out the generation would still be won by the Xbox. Also, we are on GS. Use the GS scores to measure a game. If i want to go argue a systems score using metacritic ill go to the metacritic site.
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#267 delta3074
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ps3 has the best library, i think everyone knows that, but im glad i have both

YankeesNYC4life
apart from the people in this thread that disagree,lol
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#268 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] Hey listen up I did not go through all this trouble for a MOD to contradict another MOD and make this whole thread pointless, I did a ton of work, it's a fair thread, I've been listening and adressing all feedback. Unless theres an explicit rule saying I can't use Metacritic to make a library camparison just let this be. Otherwise it's just another arguement about Metacritic vs Gamespot all over again. This isn't a which has a better library at Gamespot thread, it's a universal thread, where we take the opinions of many sources, and Metacritic/Gamerankings is the perfect way to do that.

Gamtrix

you're the one who said he's going along with the metagame. it's always used gamespot. it's why the spreadsheet is linked in the stickied info thread. this is cool and all but...

Well the metagame exists outside of gamespot, the console war metagame is pretty much happening all over the internet, youtube, Gametrailers, IGN, Neogaf, VGchartz, N4G etc etc. That's what I meant, not the specific hype/flop/SW Spreadsheet Metagame.

so you decided to do it here where another metagame already exists? :?

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#269 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]PS3 has made an epic comback, congrats to Sony, Microsoft pretty much lost steam ever since MGS4 smacked system wars, all 360 has now is Reach, and half a year later...Gears3darthkirmy
Which is why the Xbox 360 still sells better than PS3??? If we are going by success of the systems and their companies overall the 360 is by far and away the winner of this generation. If there was not another exclusive for the xbox this generation and ps3 got AAAAE games from here on out the generation would still be won by the Xbox. Also, we are on GS. Use the GS scores to measure a game. If i want to go argue a systems score using metacritic ill go to the metacritic site.

This isn't a sales thread man, but just to correct you the PS3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide, which is why the gap has decreased to the lowest it's ever been, 3.6Million.
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#270 clone01
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[QUOTE="darthkirmy"][QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]PS3 has made an epic comback, congrats to Sony, Microsoft pretty much lost steam ever since MGS4 smacked system wars, all 360 has now is Reach, and half a year later...Gears3Gamtrix
Which is why the Xbox 360 still sells better than PS3??? If we are going by success of the systems and their companies overall the 360 is by far and away the winner of this generation. If there was not another exclusive for the xbox this generation and ps3 got AAAAE games from here on out the generation would still be won by the Xbox. Also, we are on GS. Use the GS scores to measure a game. If i want to go argue a systems score using metacritic ill go to the metacritic site.

This isn't a sales thread man, but just to correct you the PS3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide, which is why the gap has decreased to the lowest it's ever been, 3.6Million.

link please?
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#271 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="darthkirmy"] Which is why the Xbox 360 still sells better than PS3??? If we are going by success of the systems and their companies overall the 360 is by far and away the winner of this generation. If there was not another exclusive for the xbox this generation and ps3 got AAAAE games from here on out the generation would still be won by the Xbox. Also, we are on GS. Use the GS scores to measure a game. If i want to go argue a systems score using metacritic ill go to the metacritic site.

This isn't a sales thread man, but just to correct you the PS3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide, which is why the gap has decreased to the lowest it's ever been, 3.6Million.

link please?

I'd have to search for it but I'm sure someone will back it up for me, this is going by official Microsoft and Sony sales figures.
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#272 delta3074
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[QUOTE="YankeesNYC4life"]

ps3 has the best library, i think everyone knows that, but im glad i have both

clone01
no, apparently a 14 page thread would disagree with you. in the end, its really all opinion. you can twist metacritic and GS scores to 360 or ps3 or wii, but in the end, its the choice of the gamer.

this is about the size of it, which console is better will always be an opinion, it will never be fact, even metacritic scores are based on opinion, and opinions do not equal facts, quality is always subjective.
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#273 clone01
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I'd have to search for it but I'm sure someone will back it up for me, this is going by official Microsoft and Sony sales figures.Gamtrix
so, in other words, you've made a claim, and you have no proof. also, you don't want to do the legwork to provide said proof. cool

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#274 tutt3r
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How about the great comback that was nintendo gamecube to nintendo wii. or how about even the xbox to greatly improved and well supported 360 platform. Comparing the ps2 to the ps3, its actually a step down.

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#275 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I'd have to search for it but I'm sure someone will back it up for me, this is going by official Microsoft and Sony sales figures.clone01

so, in other words, you've made a claim, and you have no proof. also, you don't want to do the legwork to provide said proof. cool

he's right unfortunately, But MS posts there sales figures earlier than SONY, plus MS figures didn't count the 360 s, which boosted sales of the 360 80% in the USA and 1000% in the UK.
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I'd have to search for it but I'm sure someone will back it up for me, this is going by official Microsoft and Sony sales figures.clone01

so, in other words, you've made a claim, and you have no proof. also, you don't want to do the legwork to provide said proof. cool

It's not that hard to look for it. It was back sometime around E3, I think, so it's probably been widened a little due to the new S models being released and old 360 price drops.
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#277 CaseyWegner
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i'm a little confused about the thread title. it says overall quality library but your sig says ps3 > 360. your list shows the 360 overall library with a higher number than for the ps3.

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#278 johnnyblazed88
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i'm a little confused about the thread title. it says overall quality library but your sig says ps3 > 360.

CaseyWegner

prolly counting ME2 KZ3 and a bunch of other games PS# hasnt released yet

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#279 Warship_19
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360 Halo series, Gears, Alan Wake. Mass effect 1 not 2 Forza Motorsport. Splinter Cell, Dead or Alive, Fable, Left for dead

PS3 God Of War, Killzone, Heavy Rain. Resistance, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, MGS4, Gran Turismo. SOCOM, Twisted Metal, Infamous, Ratchet&Clank

You be the judge.

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#280 darthkirmy
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I know for a fact that the Xbox routinely outsells the PS3 in the US. Just look at the NPD figures for that one. And world wide.... give me a break the PS3 will always outsell the xbox in Japan and in Europe im pretty sure the Xbox still sells better there. And beyond that, this entire argument is extremely subjective. I own both consoles and i own about 20 games for my xbox and 3 for my ps3. In the end, it all comes down to what games the user likes. I prefer the xbox quite a bit to my ps3. To try to provide definitive proof that one console is better than the other is tomfoolery and in general a waste of time. What i would like to see someone do is actually provide a statistical analysis of all the scores of each of the systems. Kick out the outlier scores and get the means, standard deviations, and all those statistics then compare the consoles. That would be wayyyyyy to much work though.
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#281 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I'd have to search for it but I'm sure someone will back it up for me, this is going by official Microsoft and Sony sales figures.RogueShodown

so, in other words, you've made a claim, and you have no proof. also, you don't want to do the legwork to provide said proof. cool

It's not that hard to look for it. It was back sometime around E3, I think, so it's probably been widened a little due to the new S models being released and old 360 price drops.

that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you?
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#282 clone01
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="clone01"] so, in other words, you've made a claim, and you have no proof. also, you don't want to do the legwork to provide said proof. cool

lawlessx

It's not that hard to look for it. It was back sometime around E3, I think, so it's probably been widened a little due to the new S models being released and old 360 price drops.

that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you?

thanks...that was my overall point.

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#283 Anjunaddict
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This thread needs locked. The opening post is clearly biased despite the TC claiming it as fact. And whats worse is that plenty of people have gave the TC suggestions in how to make the comparison more fair, yet he's refused to do it as he knows it will work against his original point.
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#284 Gamtrix
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This thread needs locked. The opening post is clearly biased despite the TC claiming it as fact. And whats worse is that plenty of people have gave the TC suggestions in how to make the comparison more fair, yet he's refused to do it as he knows it will work against his original point.Anjunaddict
That's a lie, you want this locked because you don't like the results, people listed games that were missing and I added them, I've been fair from page one, you expect me to go do what I did here for all the A games too just be YOU think they should be included? Do you have ANY idea how much work that is? And how many of us disagree?
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#285 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]This thread needs locked. The opening post is clearly biased despite the TC claiming it as fact. And whats worse is that plenty of people have gave the TC suggestions in how to make the comparison more fair, yet he's refused to do it as he knows it will work against his original point.Gamtrix
That's a lie, you want this locked because you don't like the results, people listed games that were missing and I added them, I've been fair from page one, you expect me to go do what I did here for all the A games too just be YOU think they should be included? Do you have ANY idea how much work that is? And how many of us disagree?

i do agree that A games shouldn't be listed. they're not part of the metagame.

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#286 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="RogueShodown"] It's not that hard to look for it. It was back sometime around E3, I think, so it's probably been widened a little due to the new S models being released and old 360 price drops.clone01

that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you?

thanks...that was my overall point.

So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?
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#287 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you? Gamtrix

thanks...that was my overall point.

So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?

i question anyone who makes those claims. i'm still waiting on proof.
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#288 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]This thread needs locked. The opening post is clearly biased despite the TC claiming it as fact. And whats worse is that plenty of people have gave the TC suggestions in how to make the comparison more fair, yet he's refused to do it as he knows it will work against his original point.CaseyWegner

That's a lie, you want this locked because you don't like the results, people listed games that were missing and I added them, I've been fair from page one, you expect me to go do what I did here for all the A games too just be YOU think they should be included? Do you have ANY idea how much work that is? And how many of us disagree?

i do agree that A games shouldn't be listed. they're not part of the metagame.

I don't understand, why are they included in the spreadsheet then?

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#289 clone01
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]This thread needs locked. The opening post is clearly biased despite the TC claiming it as fact. And whats worse is that plenty of people have gave the TC suggestions in how to make the comparison more fair, yet he's refused to do it as he knows it will work against his original point.Gamtrix
That's a lie, you want this locked because you don't like the results, people listed games that were missing and I added them, I've been fair from page one, you expect me to go do what I did here for all the A games too just be YOU think they should be included? Do you have ANY idea how much work that is? And how many of us disagree?

who disagrees? could you please compile a list?
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#290 delta3074
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you? Gamtrix

thanks...that was my overall point.

So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?

no ones picking on you mate, but when someone asks you for proof of what you are claiming the onus is on you to provide proof, i already backed up your point about sales, but ultimately it's up to you to provide evidence, no one singling you out, if i had a quid for everytime someone has asked me to provide a link i would be a millionaire. and lose the sig, this thread is not proof the Ps3 is better than the 360, not even close,lol
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#291 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you? Gamtrix

thanks...that was my overall point.

So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?

Never said it was ok for anybody to make a claim and not provide any proof to support it,but since you are the one that started this thread and created the argument in the first place i think it should be your job to back up any claim you make to support your argument. If i were to create a thread like this i would have atleast 5 tabs filled with articles supporting it just to be ready for anything.
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#292 HailedJohnDman
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and the people who care:

xbox 360=0

wii=0

ps3=you

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#293 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's beyond the point. Why make a claim and expect somebody else to back it up for you? Gamtrix

thanks...that was my overall point.

So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?

and, secondly, why do you consistently try to make yourself the victim here. everyone attacks posters all the time. however, when you've made an overall argument with very exploitable loopholes, its easy to find weaknesses in the argument.
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#294 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="clone01"]thanks...that was my overall point.lawlessx
So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?

Never said it was ok for anybody to make a claim and not provide any proof to support it,but since you are the one that started this thread and created the argument in the first place i think it should be your job to back up any claim you make to support your argument. If i were to create a thread like this i would have atleast 5 tabs filled with articles supporting it just to be ready for anything.

i am exactly the same, you have to learn to be pre-emptive when you make a thread like this here.
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#295 Gamtrix
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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="clone01"]

thanks...that was my overall point.

lawlessx

So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me?

Never said it was ok for anybody to make a claim and not provide any proof to support it,but since you are the one that started this thread and created the argument in the first place i think it should be your job to back up any claim you make to support your argument. If i were to create a thread like this i would have atleast 5 tabs filled with articles supporting it just to be ready for anything.

I did not start the sales talk, I don't even care about sales. I just corrected a poster according to what I know. I don't have the links handy, and I really don't feel like looking for them, I'm trying to study at the moment tbh. I'm sorry but this is the truth.

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#296 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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If we go by raw numbers, the 360 wins. But I'd avice going by raw numbers, since they are faceless scores, that lack a lot of personal perspective. In other words, both are great, as always, what defines the "winner' is pure and plain preference.
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#297 clone01
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] So it's ok for the other poster to claim the 360 is outselling the PS3, no proof, noone questions him, but when I claim otherwise(and end up being proven that I wasn't making it up) I'm the one that's in the wrong? Plenty of people say things without proof on this forum, why are you guys picking on me? Gamtrix

Never said it was ok for anybody to make a claim and not provide any proof to support it,but since you are the one that started this thread and created the argument in the first place i think it should be your job to back up any claim you make to support your argument. If i were to create a thread like this i would have atleast 5 tabs filled with articles supporting it just to be ready for anything.

I did not start the sales talk, I don't even care about sales. I just corrected a poster according to what I know. I don't have the links handy, and I really don't feel like looking for them, I'm trying to study at the moment tbh. I'm sorry but this is the truth.

if you don't care about sales, why did you make the claim that PS3 was leading in worldwide sales?
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#298 HailedJohnDman
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you can argue all day long how "ZOMG but but teh ps3 has moar ESCLUSIVES than xbawks"

i would still say

halo reach>any ps3 exclusive

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#299 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] That's a lie, you want this locked because you don't like the results, people listed games that were missing and I added them, I've been fair from page one, you expect me to go do what I did here for all the A games too just be YOU think they should be included? Do you have ANY idea how much work that is? And how many of us disagree? Anjunaddict

i do agree that A games shouldn't be listed. they're not part of the metagame.

I don't understand, why are they included in the spreadsheet then?

the spreadsheet wasn't made for the metagame. it's a reference. we just use the spreadsheet cause it's convenient and well done. there's a note about it in the info thread.

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#300 clone01
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]If we go by raw numbers, the 360 wins. But I'd avice going by raw numbers, since they are faceless scores, that lack a lot of personal perspective. In other words, both are great, as always, what defines the "winner' is pure and plain preference.

this is true.