The greatest gaming series of all time, Metal Gear Solid

[QUOTE="shaggygrosser"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Some underyling MGS themes:

-Watch the movie, "The Corporation". MGS ties into it very well.

-War is a business, yes this happens in the real world

-Politics is nothing more than a shadow cast upon society by big business.

-Propaganda and manipulation of others

MGS storyline is top-notch, far exceeding that of most holllywood movies.

Aku101

You're joking right? Please tell me some good movies with great writing, because the only movies I've seen that had a good story and script were:

Vantage Point

LOTR

Casablanca

V for Vendetta

A Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy

[QUOTE="Guyper"]

Nope, everyone knows it's Monkey Island:)

thepwninator

Monkey Island is the winner when it comes to writing, without a doubt. No other game series even comes close.

As for best series, as a total package, of all time:

Baldur's Gate

So wonderful...

Really? Some examples of good writing in movies: Godfather I and II (I know they're from a book. I read them.) Memento American Beauty Forrest Gump First Matrix only (needed an action title) If you really think MGS is well written, then I just assume you don't read many books, or appreciate really well written movies.Northernboxer

I'll concede that every movie you listed was good except for American Beauty. Please don't ass/u/me, because I've read alot of books. The story of MGS ever since the first Metal Gear is right up there, and is certainly the best story in video game history.

[QUOTE="shaggygrosser"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Some underyling MGS themes:

-Watch the movie, "The Corporation". MGS ties into it very well.

-War is a business, yes this happens in the real world

-Politics is nothing more than a shadow cast upon society by big business.

-Propaganda and manipulation of others

MGS storyline is top-notch, far exceeding that of most holllywood movies.

Aku101

You're joking right? Please tell me some good movies with great writing, because the only movies I've seen that had a good story and script were:

Vantage Point

LOTR

Casablanca

V for Vendetta

A Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy

What other movies have you seen? Spiderman? Enchanted? c'mon. Movies with good writing would be A Room for Romeo Brass, Let the Right One In, This Is England, Taxi Driver, A Clockwork Orange, etc.AAllxxjjnn

Spiderman and Enchanted were garbage. Nice try.

[QUOTE="Northernboxer"]Really? Some examples of good writing in movies: Godfather I and II (I know they're from a book. I read them.) Memento American Beauty Forrest Gump First Matrix only (needed an action title) If you really think MGS is well written, then I just assume you don't read many books, or appreciate really well written movies.Aku101

I'll concede that every movie you listed was good except for American Beauty. Please don't ass/u/me, because I've read alot of books. The story of MGS ever since the first Metal Gear is right up there, and is certainly the best story in video game history.

It would bomb if they tried to fit the whole stroy in one movie yes. If an MGS movie were to be made it would need to be a trilogy.

MGS has everything it needs to succeed as a movie.

-Politcal Intrigue

-Interesting Characters with depth. All MGS characters have this, even the non-important ones.

-Comic relief

-Action

-Plot twists

It would certainly be better than the 007 James Bond franchise.

[QUOTE="Aku101"][QUOTE="shaggygrosser"] You're watching the wrong movies, bub. MGS storyline & writing are complete shyte.Northernboxer

You're joking right? Please tell me some good movies with great writing, because the only movies I've seen that had a good story and script were:

Vantage Point

LOTR

Casablanca

V for Vendetta

A Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. g0ddyX

[QUOTE="Northernboxer"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

You're joking right? Please tell me some good movies with great writing, because the only movies I've seen that had a good story and script were:

Vantage Point

LOTR

Casablanca

V for Vendetta

A Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Eddie-Vedder

How's it a landmark in gaming? Mind educating me on this so i wont be a fanboy anymore?AAllxxjjnn

Considering that it started an entire genre to which there is only 1 other competitive franchise (lol splinter cell), then yes it's a landmark in gaming. Not to mention it's the only franchise that improves with every sequel consistently and still builds on the same plot.

And yes it's better than most hollywood movies because most hollywood movies were crap. Look at the movies that came out in 2008, only 2 were good and that was Slumdog Millionaire and The Wrestler. We all know that The Dark Knight would be nothing without Heath Ledger as Joker. in fact heath's chracter was more interesting than the rest of the movie.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] How's it a landmark in gaming? Mind educating me on this so i wont be a fanboy anymore?Aku101

Considering that it started an entire genre to which there is only 1 other competitive franchise (lol splinter cell), then yes it's a landmark in gaming. Not to mention it's the only franchise that improves with every sequel consistently and still builds on the same plot.

Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. g0ddyX

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] How's it a landmark in gaming? Mind educating me on this so i wont be a fanboy anymore?AAllxxjjnn

Considering that it started an entire genre to which there is only 1 other competitive franchise (lol splinter cell), then yes it's a landmark in gaming. Not to mention it's the only franchise that improves with every sequel consistently and still builds on the same plot.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] How's it a landmark in gaming? Mind educating me on this so i wont be a fanboy anymore?Aku101

Splinter Cell and Theif do stealth much better than MGS. AAllxxjjnn

I literally lol'd IRL

It would bomb if they tried to fit the whole stroy in one movie yes. If an MGS movie were to be made it would need to be a trilogy.

MGS has everything it needs to succeed as a movie.

-Politcal Intrigue

-Interesting Characters with depth. All MGS characters have this, even the non-important ones.

-Comic relief

-Action

-Plot twists

It would certainly be better than the 007 James Bond franchise.

Aku101

right there is where ANY credibility in your post is completely lost. BTW... Plot twist are completely over done these days and the ones in the MGS series are horrible and more offten then not, predictable.

How's it a landmark in gaming? Mind educating me on this so i wont be a fanboy anymore?AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Splinter Cell and Theif do stealth much better than MGS. Aku101

I literally lol'd IRL

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. Nedemis

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Splinter Cell and Theif do stealth much better than MGS. Nedemis

I literally lol'd IRL

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. dark-warmachine

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

It would bomb if they tried to fit the whole stroy in one movie yes. If an MGS movie were to be made it would need to be a trilogy.

MGS has everything it needs to succeed as a movie.

-Politcal Intrigue

-Interesting Characters with depth. All MGS characters have this, even the non-important ones.

-Comic relief

-Action

-Plot twists

It would certainly be better than the 007 James Bond franchise.

Nedemis

right there is where ANY credibility in your post is completely lost. BTW... Plot twist are completely over done these days and the ones in the MGS series are horrible and more offten then not, predictable.

Okay I'll retract my statement, MGS made the stealth-genre popularized just like Mario did with platforming.Aku101

right there is where ANY credibility in your post is completely lost. BTW... Plot twist are completely over done these days and the ones in the MGS series are horrible and more offten then not, predictable.

Nedemis

I suppose you think James Bond is good then? Lmao. James Bond died after Diamonds are Forever. I thoght it was shaping up to be good again with Casino Royale but then Quantum of Solace crushed my hopes.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

I literally lol'd IRL

thepwninator

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. Nedemis

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]

right there is where ANY credibility in your post is completely lost. BTW... Plot twist are completely over done these days and the ones in the MGS series are horrible and more offten then not, predictable.

Aku101

I suppose you think James Bond is good then? Lmao. James Bond died after Diamonds are Forever. I thoght it was shaping up to be good again with Casino Royale but then Quantum of Solace crushed my hopes.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. g0ddyX

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

It would bomb if they tried to fit the whole stroy in one movie yes. If an MGS movie were to be made it would need to be a trilogy.

MGS has everything it needs to succeed as a movie.

-Politcal Intrigue

-Interesting Characters with depth. All MGS characters have this, even the non-important ones.

-Comic relief

-Action

-Plot twists

It would certainly be better than the 007 James Bond franchise.

dark-warmachine

right there is where ANY credibility in your post is completely lost. BTW... Plot twist are completely over done these days and the ones in the MGS series are horrible and more offten then not, predictable.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="Nedemis"] at truth? MGS is a joke as far as stealth elements go. Nedemis

And I suppose you think that Sam Fisher standing in the shadows 5 feet infront of a guard with green lights on his forehead is stealth? :lol:

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]How's it a landmark in gaming? Mind educating me on this so i wont be a fanboy anymore?foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Splinter Cell and Theif do stealth much better than MGS. Aku101

I literally lol'd IRL

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="thepwninator"] At least in comparison to Thief. Splinter Cell is superior to it in that department as well, IMO.Aku101

And I suppose you think that Sam Fisher standing in the shadows 5 feet infront of a guard with green lights on his forehead is stealth? :lol:

I respectfully disagree, as it will be a lot of people.IronBass

and that's enough to know how the series is. If it's not, then that is quite possibly the worst overall conceived story in the world. Nedemis

According to your reasoning, if people have only seen Episodes 1 and 2 of Star Wars then that's enough to know how the series is :lol:

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Metal Gear Solid series is and should be in the top 5 greatest games.
Each game ties in with the next, unlike Final Fantasy and Zelda.

Its a landmark in gaming, to argue that just proves your a fanboy.

You may hate it, but you cant deny it.

The least you can do, is play metal gear solid 1 to 4. g0ddyX

I could name many, many more, but you introduced the bizarre restriction of "that has more than three parts to it", so I can't say Deus Ex, Planescape: Torment, the Witcher, System Shock 2, and a fair amount more.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="thepwninator"] At least in comparison to Thief. Splinter Cell is superior to it in that department as well, IMO.Aku101

And I suppose you think that Sam Fisher standing in the shadows 5 feet infront of a guard with green lights on his forehead is stealth? :lol:

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]MGS3 has the best story in the series.Nedemis

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"][QUOTE="Nedemis"] I've played only 1 and 2 and I must say that the story isn't really that spectacular. If you really think it is, then you don't have even mediocre standards. Just because a story hits up on several areas (in a very convoluted manner be it may) does not mean that the story is well written or in MGS's sake, well executed. There are several points where you can tell that Kojima backed himself into a corner and lost track of where things were going so he then throws in some side story (or background) story in order to change the focus for that point in time. If Kojima were to turn in the story of the MGS series into any publisher, they'd laugh at him and have him completely rework the entire series. It's a joke of a story and is the most over rated one to date. I'm sorry if pointing out the truth about your "crown jewel" upsets you this much, but the story sucks. Nedemis

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According to your reasoning, if people ahve only seen Episodes 1 and 2 of Star Wars then that's enough to know how the series is :lol:

Aku101

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]You've only played MGS1 & 2Aku101

According to your reasoning, if people ahve only seen Episodes 1 and 2 of Star Wars then that's enough to know how the series is :lol: