The GTAIV Kickass Hype/Discussion Thread (56k) - KEEP IT HERE OR BE SUSPENDED!

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Zeliard, you might wanna delete that last post. Apparently that = spoilers, and it wasn't in spoiler tags. The bolded SPOILER WARNING isn't enough, it would seem. I didn't mention any plot points or anything, but still, apparently it's a spoiler, and you also get in trouble for quoting them. :?

Just a heads up.

EDIT: as in the post about awesome lighting and animations and the like...

Zeliard9

Saying the game has awesome lighting and animations is a spoiler? Where'd you get that from? I thought they were only referring to discussing actual plot points and characters and such. I haven't gotten any PMs about it. Weird.

I got a PM. I thought it was rediculous but hey, dems the rules...

:lol:

[spoiler] Drunk gameplay here. Crappy quality but Niko stumbling around looks hilarious. Looks hard as hell to control, too, as you'd imagine. Looks like a different part of the city, too, more active. And amazing lighting, again. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"]The physics are meh. Saints Row did one thing better, licensing out Havok.Zeliard9

Havok? :lol:

Yes Havok > Euphoria, its quite evident by the gameplay videos. Actually its always been Havok > all other physics engines.

Half Life 2 and Crysis uses Havok physics right? Company of Heroes also.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"]The physics are meh. Saints Row did one thing better, licensing out Havok.CassiusGaius

Havok? :lol:

Yes Havok > Euphoria, its quite evident by the gameplay videos. Actually its always been Havok > all other physics engines.

Half Life 2 and Crysis uses Havok physics right? Company of Heroes also.

Please, just stop.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

Sorry to be a negative nancy, but the animations look pretty bad. :(

Everything else looks sweet though.

justforlotr2004

The animations are great, its just the people playing are new too the game so they are pretty choppy with the controls.

Whenever Niko got ran over by a car, it looked so lame. The car physics seem a bit off too.

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]

Sorry to be a negative nancy, but the animations look pretty bad. :(

Everything else looks sweet though.

II-FBIsniper-II

The animations are great, its just the people playing are new too the game so they are pretty choppy with the controls.

Whenever Niko got ran over by a car, it looked so lame. The car physics seem a bit off too.

Look at Niko's "character reaction" to this car explosion and tell me the procedural, Euphoria-driven animation isn't amazing and more advanced than anything we've seen.

About animations:

[spoiler] Niko's running animations look so real that it's kind of eerie. I also like the way his body flops around when he's hit by a car. :D I'm going to enjoy this game! [/spoiler]

Also awesome when Niko runs into the side of that car and tries to hang on to the handle as he falls. The guy who's playing is terrible, though. [/spoiler]

Jesus. I can't stop watching these. It's like crack.

[spoiler] Holy **** @ the draw distance. http://toru.ee/view/5593c30cff30 [/spoiler]

Jesus. I can't stop watching these. It's like crack.

Zeliard9

Man, this game looks killer....great vid. If you think that watching these vids are like crack, can you imagine how addictive playing the game will be? Imagine your favorite installment of GTA (mine is Vice City) x like 3. That's how good I think GTAIV is going to be. Hope I'm right.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

Jesus. I can't stop watching these. It's like crack.

ironcreed

Man, this game looks killer....great vid. If you think that watching these vids are like crack, can you imagine how addictive playing the game will be? Imagine your favorite installment of GTA (mine is Vice City) x like 3. That's how good I think GTAIV is going to be. Hope I'm right.

My favorite installment was San Andreas, but that's the thing. I've always definitely liked the GTA series, but I've never been that huge on it. I thought they were good games, but nothing overly amazing like many others thought.

But GTA4 is clearly something different, something much more special. Everything I've read about it, everything I've heard about it, everything I've now seen from it.... it looks to be one of the best games I've ever played in every possible way. The technological upgrade alone gives it a huge boost over past GTAs.

In all these vids these guys are just messing around and that alone could be a full game, but the missions and storyline are supposed to be spectacular, too, as well as the multiplayer (15+ modes).

I havent watched any of the gameplay videos yet!

I will resist!

therealmcc0y

:D Neither have I!!

I went to my local no name reatiler today and asked them when they were getting GTAIV and they said whenever they get it, they can't sell it until the 29th. Apparently he had to sign some REAL BIG contracts for the game, and they are serious about keeping to the street date, so unless youve got family on the inside, your SOL until the midnight launch

Just thought id share my story for anyone trying to get it early.

Only 6 (or 5 depending where you are) days to go.

Cannot wait

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I havent watched any of the gameplay videos yet!

I will resist!

I_pWnzz_YoU

:D Neither have I!!

were the only ones lol.

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I havent watched any of the gameplay videos yet!

I will resist!

That_MC_Jerome

:D Neither have I!!

were the only ones lol.

No you're not. Count me in. I've having a hard enough time avoid the people talking about whats in the videos. As soon I see something that says "I LOL'D when he..." I look elsewhere. lol

This video delivers the goods.

[spoiler] http://toru.ee/view/431dc3db8e02 [/spoiler]

Sorry if its been posted.

This video delivers the goods.

Sorry if its been posted.CassiusGaius

Yeah I love that one.

The next-gen Carmageddon. :P

The draw distance is seriously amazing, too.

Oh yeah, and

[spoiler] Holy **** police bumper cam? No way. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"]The physics are meh. Saints Row did one thing better, licensing out Havok.Zeliard9

Havok? :lol:

Yes Havok > Euphoria, its quite evident by the gameplay videos. Actually its always been Havok > all other physics engines.

Half Life 2 and Crysis uses Havok physics right? Company of Heroes also.

Please, just stop.

i hate it when people do that. is he being a troll or something? lots of great games use havok. not saying its better than Euphoria (i just don't really know), but a lot of devs use it.

things i've noticed from the leaked gameplay videos.

-some people say they are fake. how could you fake all that?

-these guys playing the game suck. Especially the french guy (just stand there and die why don't ya!). also, their not even doing anything! all i've seen is some small scale fights with random peds and low-level car chases. i want to see epic rampages.

-i haven't found any video with a decent recording. There just video taping the screen. Be nice if somebody got the game with adequate video recording.

- the lighting (from what i can tell) really is awesome.

-from the small amount of shooting i've seen, the targeting looks good.

even though the guys playing suck, its still very fun to watch.

[QUOTE="That_MC_Jerome"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I havent watched any of the gameplay videos yet!

I will resist!

Cedmln

:D Neither have I!!

were the only ones lol.

No you're not. Count me in. I've having a hard enough time avoid the people talking about whats in the videos. As soon I see something that says "I LOL'D when he..." I look elsewhere. lol

Yeah, I know the vids are just showing off gameplay but STILL, you have to be a true GTA fan to actually wait till release date.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="CassiusGaius"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"]The physics are meh. Saints Row did one thing better, licensing out Havok.Hihatrider87

Havok? :lol:

Yes Havok > Euphoria, its quite evident by the gameplay videos. Actually its always been Havok > all other physics engines.

Half Life 2 and Crysis uses Havok physics right? Company of Heroes also.

Please, just stop.

i hate it when people do that. is he being a troll or something? lots of great games use havok. not saying its better than Euphoria (i just don't really know), but a lot of devs use it.

Trying to come in here and bash the game by saying that Havok > Euphoria is what's trollish. It's inferior technology. It would be like saying sprites > polygons in a game of this sort. It's not opinion, it's not up for debate, and it doesn't deserve a real response.

Yes, a lot of devs use Havok. It's old technology.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"][QUOTE="That_MC_Jerome"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I havent watched any of the gameplay videos yet!

I will resist!

I_pWnzz_YoU

:D Neither have I!!

were the only ones lol.

No you're not. Count me in. I've having a hard enough time avoid the people talking about whats in the videos. As soon I see something that says "I LOL'D when he..." I look elsewhere. lol

Yeah, I know the vids are just showing off gameplay but STILL, you have to be a true GTA fan to actually wait till release date.

Hehe, as soon as I saw the word "Leaked" I immediately clicked the link. I would have to chain myself up and have my friend put me in a car trunk to pull off what you guys are doing.:P

[QUOTE="Hihatrider87"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="CassiusGaius"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"]The physics are meh. Saints Row did one thing better, licensing out Havok.Zeliard9

Havok? :lol:

Yes Havok > Euphoria, its quite evident by the gameplay videos. Actually its always been Havok > all other physics engines.

Half Life 2 and Crysis uses Havok physics right? Company of Heroes also.

Please, just stop.

i hate it when people do that. is he being a troll or something? lots of great games use havok. not saying its better than Euphoria (i just don't really know), but a lot of devs use it.

Trying to come in here and bash the game by saying that Havok > Euphoria is what's trollish. It's inferior technology. It would be like saying sprites > polygons. It's not opinion, it's not up for debate, and it doesn't deserve a real response.

Yes, a lot of devs use Havok. It's old technology.

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

I_pWnzz_YoU

Just setting the facts straight. Guy came after me, so I had to give him a Niko-style drop-kick to the back while wearing Tims.

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

Zeliard9

Just setting the facts straight. Guy came after me, so I had to give him a Niko-style drop-kick to the back while wearing Tims.

Hehe....awesome :D

I heard the GTA4 online gameplay was going to be similar to Gears of War, dose anybody know if thats true?

I heard the GTA4 online gameplay was going to be similar to Gears of War, dose anybody know if thats true?

KillaHalo2o9

The cover system is similar but GTA 4's multiplayer has much bigger scale battles, plus a lot more game types than Gears. In other words, Gears' multiplayer involves small levels and GTA 4 has bigger ones, plus with vehicles.

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

I heard the GTA4 online gameplay was going to be similar to Gears of War, dose anybody know if thats true?

dracula_16

The cover system is similar but GTA 4's multiplayer has much bigger scale battles, plus a lot more game types than Gears. In other words, Gears' multiplayer involves small levels and GTA 4 has bigger ones, plus with vehicles.

Sweet and thx.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

I heard the GTA4 online gameplay was going to be similar to Gears of War, dose anybody know if thats true?

KillaHalo2o9

The cover system is similar but GTA 4's multiplayer has much bigger scale battles, plus a lot more game types than Gears. In other words, Gears' multiplayer involves small levels and GTA 4 has bigger ones, plus with vehicles.

Sweet and thx.

No problem.

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

Zeliard9

Just setting the facts straight. Guy came after me, so I had to give him a Niko-style drop-kick to the back while wearing Tims.

Uh, no I didn't. I said its quite evident that SR had one edge over GTA4 being the physics. THATS IT. Its pretty observable viewing the videos. Then you replied laughing at Havok physics, which is a multi million dollar invested engine used by high profile game companies.

That doesn't mean that Euphoria sucks. I didn't say GTA sucks, its a simple observation.

You attacked me first sir, good day.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

CassiusGaius

Just setting the facts straight. Guy came after me, so I had to give him a Niko-style drop-kick to the back while wearing Tims.

Uh, no I didn't. I said its quite evident that SR had one edge over GTA4 being the physics. THATS IT. Its pretty observable viewing the videos. Then you replied laughing at Havok physics, which is a multi million dollar invested engine used by high profile game companies.

That doesn't mean that Euphoria sucks. I didn't say GTA sucks, its a simple observation.

You attacked me first sir, good day.

Ohhh give it a rest!!! Just let it go, everyone has a different opinion on everything, thats life, believe it or not.

I don't take the time to look at every single detail in the game cause I'm too busy having fun playing it, if the graphics are sexy then thats great.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

CassiusGaius

Just setting the facts straight. Guy came after me, so I had to give him a Niko-style drop-kick to the back while wearing Tims.

Uh, no I didn't. I said its quite evident that SR had one edge over GTA4 being the physics. THATS IT. Its pretty observable viewing the videos. Then you replied laughing at Havok physics, which is a multi million dollar invested engine used by high profile game companies.

That doesn't mean that Euphoria sucks. I didn't say GTA sucks, its a simple observation.

You attacked me first sir, good day.

#1 - I was referring to the guy who called me a troll, not you.

#2 - You're wrong, factually. There's nothing Havok does that Euphoria can't also do, and there are many things Euphoria does that Havok doesn't do.

How does Saints Row have better physics? It uses basic ragdoll on its character models and the vehicle physics are almost non-existant. GTA4 uses procedural animation, and that's on top of mo-cap. And the vehicles each have their own individual physics and suspension system. They even bend and dent depending on where they get hit and what they hit.

That's why the only real option when someone brings up Havok as superior tech is to laugh. The reason it's used by so many is because it's been around for a decade and is effective enough. Euphoria is new and does a lot more, even impacting A.I., and GTA4 is the first game out with it.

But whatever floats your boat, man. Some people still prefer black-and-white over color TV.

Will Gamestop do a midnight launch for this game?krp008

I think that a lot of them are. The local one here is, and I've heard they're gonna try to open most of them at midnight.

i have not watched any of the video's. i am strong.That_MC_Jerome

:lol: me too.

Well, I've seen the trailers...multiple times...but I refuse to watch the gameplay trailers.

I'd rather be surprised when I pop the game in for the first time.

Note to fellow gamers:

Please report anyone who posts spoilers outside of the tags because I really want to keep reading this thread, but if I accidentally read a spoiler I will kill a puppy.

Note to fellow gamers:

Please report anyone who posts spoilers outside of the tags because I really want to keep reading this thread, but if I accidentally read a spoiler I will kill a puppy.

fuzzysquash

Here's a spoiler for you: the game owns souls. SOULS, I TELL YOU. SOULS.

It's also going to be the source for much mass hysteria in the media.

I went to my local no name reatiler today and asked them when they were getting GTAIV and they said whenever they get it, they can't sell it until the 29th. Apparently he had to sign some REAL BIG contracts for the game, and they are serious about keeping to the street date, so unless youve got family on the inside, your SOL until the midnight launch

Just thought id share my story for anyone trying to get it early.

f50p90

[QUOTE="f50p90"]

I went to my local no name reatiler today and asked them when they were getting GTAIV and they said whenever they get it, they can't sell it until the 29th. Apparently he had to sign some REAL BIG contracts for the game, and they are serious about keeping to the street date, so unless youve got family on the inside, your SOL until the midnight launch

Just thought id share my story for anyone trying to get it early.

E M I N 3 M

What stores are breaking the street date in the U.S.?

Fair enough Zeliard. My mistake also.

Euphoria does look good and never said that it couldn't do what Havok does, but honestly I don't think Rockstar was fully able to realize the potential of the engine. When I get the game, maybe I will change my mind, until then I'm skeptical.

Night.

Fair enough Zeliard. My mistake also.

Euphoria does look good and never said that it couldn't do what Havok does, but honestly I don't think Rockstar was fully able to realize the potential of the engine. When I get the game, maybe I will change my mind, until then I'm skeptical.

Night.

CassiusGaius

I didn't meant to come down hard on you, if I did. It's just that I've had the total opposite reaction - I expected Euphoria in GTA4 to be awesome, but I've seen some Euphoria-generated things in some of these vids that made my jaw drop... and stay dropped. There's so much variety and it's all procedural, so it looks like endless fun.

And what's funny is one of the reasons I enjoyed (and still enjoy) playing Saints Row so much, and even over San Andreas as times, is because of its ragdoll physics. I really hated the GTA3 series' canned animations, it made every shootout boring and identical. Going from that to Euphoria is as massive an upgrade as it gets, and it's got exciting potential.

[QUOTE="CassiusGaius"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

Gahh!! Stop this senseless bickering, can't we all just get along? ( :lol: Yeah right)

Zeliard9

Just setting the facts straight. Guy came after me, so I had to give him a Niko-style drop-kick to the back while wearing Tims.

Uh, no I didn't. I said its quite evident that SR had one edge over GTA4 being the physics. THATS IT. Its pretty observable viewing the videos. Then you replied laughing at Havok physics, which is a multi million dollar invested engine used by high profile game companies.

That doesn't mean that Euphoria sucks. I didn't say GTA sucks, its a simple observation.

You attacked me first sir, good day.

#1 - I was referring to the guy who called me a troll, not you.

#2 - You're wrong, factually. There's nothing Havok does that Euphoria can't also do, and there are many things Euphoria does that Havok doesn't do.

How does Saints Row have better physics? It uses basic ragdoll on its character models and the vehicle physics are almost non-existant. GTA4 uses procedural animation, and that's on top of mo-cap. And the vehicles each have their own individual physics and suspension system. They even bend and dent depending on where they get hit and what they hit.

That's why the only real option when someone brings up Havok as superior tech is to laugh. The reason it's used by so many is because it's been around for a decade and is effective enough. Euphoria is new and does a lot more, even impacting A.I., and GTA4 is the first game out with it.

But whatever floats your boat, man. Some people still prefer black-and-white over color TV.

i wasn't calling you a troll. i was asking if the other guy was trolling because you gave a very irritated response to him. my intention wasn't really to talk about physics. just that you had a bad attitude towards the discussion.

now looking back- i don't know why i bothered.

i wasn't calling you a troll. i was asking if the other guy was trolling because you gave a very irritated response to him. my intention wasn't really to talk about physics. just that you had a bad attitude towards the discussion.

now looking back- i don't know why i bothered.

Hihatrider87

Helpful tip for next time: when you quote someone and then underline and bold that quote, it'll seem like you're directing your post at them.