The GTAIV Kickass Hype/Discussion Thread (56k) - KEEP IT HERE OR BE SUSPENDED!

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Hey, I'm just saying, if the PS3 version outsells the Xbox 360 version worldwide, I find it hard to believe that R* will ignore the potential money they could make, nor the chance to expand into that user base. Maybe not releasing the exclusive DLC that MS is getting on that platform, but possibly releasing something in the way of additional content. As I said, speculation warning. Do not take this as me stating fact or even opinion, just hinking aloud.

3picuri3

It is not about ignoring income, it is about not being sued for breach of contract.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time. I'm sure Sony were pretty shocked when they found out that GTA3 and Vice City were making their way on the Xbox 360 and PC. Though, as someone said earlier, I don't think anyone know the intracacies of the contract that R* signed.

arg.

again i'll say it.

both consoles are getting their own exclusive content specific to the platforms. to quote a R* rep, the PS3 will have new content 'similar in scope' to the 360s, but specific to the platform. he then goes on to say 'imagine them both as islands full of new content, not just new quests for existing areas' or something to that effect.

Companies and people breach contracts everyday. Trust me, I make a living due to this. :D As 3picuri3 stated, I am sure PS3 will get some dlc, but the contract will most likely dictate who gets what. I am sure there are liquidated damages clauses in the contract to ensure MS has protection. Also, the Sony R* contract for GTA3 had expired, that is why it came to the Xbox. R* did not breach any contract by bringing the franchise to Xbox.

dhjohns

point(s) taken.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]Oh yeah what was that event Rockstar is throwing going down this Sunday? something bout gameplay footage.I_pWnzz_YoU

G4 Exclusive GTAIV Gameplay This Sunday!@!@!!

Thanks! :D

*Edit* I dont think I have that channel!!!

Wait is it on Spike or am I thinking of GT TV?

G4 is it's own breed. I don't have it either.. but I'm sure it'll be all over the internets minutes after it airs - possibly on the actual G4 site. I don't see why they wouldn't do that for the extra traffic.

Also I think there was a Live feed I never watched. Anyone have the link? I think it had to do with Niko jacking some ppls cars.I_pWnzz_YoU

a couple even.. check neogaf if you want to get spoiled :P

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]Also I think there was a Live feed I never watched. Anyone have the link? I think it had to do with Niko jacking some ppls cars.Always-Honest

a couple even.. check neogaf if you want to get spoiled :P

I might :D

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Hey, I'm just saying, if the PS3 version outsells the Xbox 360 version worldwide, I find it hard to believe that R* will ignore the potential money they could make, nor the chance to expand into that user base. Maybe not releasing the exclusive DLC that MS is getting on that platform, but possibly releasing something in the way of additional content. As I said, speculation warning. Do not take this as me stating fact or even opinion, just hinking aloud.

donwoogie

It is not about ignoring income, it is about not being sued for breach of contract.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time. I'm sure Sony were pretty shocked when they found out that GTA3 and Vice City were making their way on the Xbox 360 and PC. Though, as someone said earlier, I don't think anyone know the intracacies of the contract that R* signed.

arg.

again i'll say it.

both consoles are getting their own exclusive content specific to the platforms. to quote a R* rep, the PS3 will have new content 'similar in scope' to the 360s, but specific to the platform. he then goes on to say 'imagine them both as islands full of new content, not just new quests for existing areas' or something to that effect.

Companies and people breach contracts everyday. Trust me, I make a living due to this. :D As 3picuri3 stated, I am sure PS3 will get some dlc, but the contract will most likely dictate who gets what. I am sure there are liquidated damages clauses in the contract to ensure MS has protection. Also, the Sony R* contract for GTA3 had expired, that is why it came to the Xbox. R* did not breach any contract by bringing the franchise to Xbox.

dhjohns

point(s) taken.

Right, so the PS3 version will get new clothes and hats and a cane, but the 360 versio will get a new island full of new gameplay. I mean, it wouldnt be called exclusive with restrictions if it wsant "exclusive". Anythign that comes extra to the ps3 version will most likely be available for the 360 version too.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

arg.

again i'll say it.

both consoles are getting their own exclusive content specific to the platforms. to quote a R* rep, the PS3 will have new content 'similar in scope' to the 360s, but specific to the platform. he then goes on to say 'imagine them both as islands full of new content, not just new quests for existing areas' or something to that effect.

Phazevariance

Companies and people breach contracts everyday. Trust me, I make a living due to this. :D As 3picuri3 stated, I am sure PS3 will get some dlc, but the contract will most likely dictate who gets what. I am sure there are liquidated damages clauses in the contract to ensure MS has protection. Also, the Sony R* contract for GTA3 had expired, that is why it came to the Xbox. R* did not breach any contract by bringing the franchise to Xbox.

dhjohns

point(s) taken.

Right, so the PS3 version will get new clothes and hats and a cane, but the 360 versio will get a new island full of new gameplay. I mean, it wouldnt be called exclusive with restrictions if it wsant "exclusive". Anythign that comes extra to the ps3 version will most likely be available for the 360 version too.

Guess it's up to R*. All they've said is that PS3 will get its own exclusive content and the Xbox 360 will have 2 exclusive DLC packs. Just to point out, the $50 isn't a flat figure as if to say, "here is 50mil R*, in return we want 2 x exclusive DLC packs", it's more like MS saying, "here is $50mil in advance before the DLC is released or even conceived because that is how confident we are that you will make a product that will generate $50mil in revenue for us". Michael Pachter noted that, if Rockstar does not make this revenue's worth from the DLC, they have to give some portion of it back. Including MS's usual 30% cut of all sales from Xbox Live Marketplace, that means the DLC must generate at least $70mil for R* and MS to be good.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6023&Itemid=2

TO everyone talking about DLC.

Does anyone know exactly what it is or whats it gonna be This goes for the DLC on both consoles (PS3 and 360).

DLC could be whole new islands for both platforms or maybe even extra missions (both platforms again).

Yes it is true that the 360 is getting DLC that is gonna be huge, but what is exactly the exclusive DLC that its getting.

TO everyone talking about DLC.

Does anyone know exactly what it is or whats it gonna be This goes for the DLC on both consoles (PS3 and 360).

DLC could be whole new islands for both platforms or maybe even extra missions (both platforms again).

Yes it is true that the 360 is getting DLC that is gonna be huge, but what is exactly the exclusive DLC that its getting.

hayato_

Nobody knows yet.

New trailer guys!

Insight into Niko:

http://trailers.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/2924/t_gtaiv_niko_exc_h264b.mov

Hmm... dunno why, but reminds me of Neil McCaughly, Robert DeNiro's character fromt he movie Heat.

Right, so the PS3 version will get new clothes and hats and a cane, but the 360 versio will get a new island full of new gameplay. I mean, it wouldnt be called exclusive with restrictions if it wsant "exclusive". Anythign that comes extra to the ps3 version will most likely be available for the 360 version too.

Phazevariance

Rockstar has said that both will have exclusive content unique to the console - just use google and i'm sure you'll find the article :)

I searched for 'GTAIV exclusive content' I think and it was the first or second link.

I think the PS3 DLC (if there'll be any) should be something like, new clothes, weapons, or side missions. Hell I'd be happy with some new clothes.

Also, can you smoke cigarettes/cigars in this game, cause that'd be awesome walking a way from a huge cop shootout smoking a cig. If not, it could go in the DLC.

im about to order GTA (i know i know im late) but dont know which version :cry: has there been any info on which version is better?mingo123

Honestly, just buy it for either system. It really doesn't matter. GTA4 transcends silly things like system wars. It's one of those games that comes along once in a generation, that is simply a must-buy. I actually feel bad for Wii (and PS2) owners that won't get to experience this game, although I'm sure Wii fans don't really care.

I think I'm gonna skip the X-Play and Gametrailers GTA4 gameplay blowout. I've already seen tons of gameplay leaks, but I figure that at least if I don't see them in HD (or even good quality), it'll still be quite an experience when I do see it for the first time on my HDTV (not to mention be playing it for myself).

The game is seriously gorgeous, and when you can tell that even in youtube quality, one can only imagine what it looks like in HD. Graphics were the first problem most people had with past GTA games, but they should be the last problem anyone has with GTA4. I didn't expect Rockstar to go to this extent to stop that particular criticism.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]im about to order GTA (i know i know im late) but dont know which version :cry: has there been any info on which version is better?Zeliard9

Honestly, just buy it for either system. It really doesn't matter. GTA4 transcends silly things like system wars. It's one of those games that comes along once in a generation, that is simply a must-buy. I actually feel bad for Wii (and PS2) owners that won't get to experience this game, although I'm sure Wii fans don't really care.

Are you kidding? they're probably sitting at home crying while playing Super Smash Bros Brawl :lol:

The DLC's gonna be a hot commodity. Most people are trying to say it isn't a big deal, but they haven't played the storyline yet, the storyline that everyone who's gone through says is one of the best in video game history (along with Niko being one of, of not the best protagonist).

So if the storyline is that memorable, and the characters and missions that well-written and fun, even a DLC that only adds new missions and new characters that tie in to the storyline would be quite amazing. I read this in a recent glowing review that was really interesting and could show how this DLC could work. Might be considered a slight spoiler by some:

[spoiler] Niko's cell phone rings. I'm a little startled. Moments earlier I was watching the game's credits, lengthy credits. They scroll up the screen as a montage of Liberty City flows by, music playing. It's like watching the ending of a movie, a really, really long movie.

So this, when I should be getting up from my seat, brushing the popcorn from my pants and quietly sliding the half-empty soda cup to the sticky floor. But, instead, I've returned to the world of my fictional life.

It's as if I'm getting to see what happens after the movie ends. In fact, it's exactly that.

I answer the phone and get a nasty reminder that in Niko's world, not only do things not turn out as expected, but the tragedy of his life and of his months in the big city have other, more tragic and lasting consequences, which he and I will have to live with as we continue to explore.

In Grand Theft Auto IV the story isn't just an amalgam of cut scenes and cleverly written dialogue, it's the experiences I create, too. It's now, watching Niko stand, his shoulders slumped, that the depth of this game finally hits me.

Niko's journey, the one crafted by Rockstar, may have ended, but Niko's adventures in the story I am creating have just begun. [/spoiler]

The rest of the review is here: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/24/grand-theft-auto-iv-a-brutal-new-world/

It's a very good read, uniquely written.

Wow, I just watched the trailer based on Niko. Turns out he's not an evil son of a *****, he just wants to start over fresh. I feel your pain Niko!! :cry:

Heres the link, sorry if someone already posted it.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

Right, so the PS3 version will get new clothes and hats and a cane, but the 360 versio will get a new island full of new gameplay. I mean, it wouldnt be called exclusive with restrictions if it wsant "exclusive". Anythign that comes extra to the ps3 version will most likely be available for the 360 version too.

3picuri3

Rockstar has said that both will have exclusive content unique to the console - just use google and i'm sure you'll find the article :)

I searched for 'GTAIV exclusive content' I think and it was the first or second link.

Both may have little excluive content, like the 360 gets shirts and stuff with the 360 logo, and the PS3 one have the PS3 logo. But the 360 also has major exclusive conetent, like new set of missions/new area/new stuff.

Some GTA 4 scores from EGM:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286037

Seems to confirm the PS3 version does look slightly better.

So yeah, the new EGM review all but confirms the lingerings of the PS3 version being the superior technical version of the game. Here it is.

Grand Theft Auto IV - A+, A+, A
Good: World, relationships, story
Bad: Some missions canned, control takes getting used to
PS3 or 360 version: 360 for DLC, PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp

Snap son, snap.

Some GTA 4 scores from EGM:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286037

Seems to confirm the PS3 version does look slightly better.

Floppy_Jim

Seems consistent from what R* stated.

So yeah, the new EGM review all but confirms the lingerings of the PS3 version being the superior technical version of the game. Here it is.

Grand Theft Auto IV - A+, A+, A
Good: World, relationships, story
Bad: Some missions canned, control takes getting used to
PS3 or 360 version: 360 for DLC, PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp

Snap son, snap.

Amnesiacx

Only slightly, don't get too carried away. ;)

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Some GTA 4 scores from EGM:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286037

Seems to confirm the PS3 version does look slightly better.

dhjohns

Seems consistent from what R* stated.

Yep and I'm a little surprised, it's pretty rare for the PS3 to have superior graphics in a multiplat game. Still, good news for Cows, they get the better graphics and motion sensing, while Lems get DLC. Glad to see R* trying to keep their old PS fanbase happy.

Good deal or not?

So I decided to get rid of SSBB. Even though I don't like fighting games, I bought and tried it and haven't touched since Easter. I noticed Gamestop was having a trade-in special for GTAIV. I stopped in and inquired about the deal. Basically Gamestop gave me $35 for Brawl plus and extra $7 for putting toward GTAIV. So $42 trade-in value on a $50 game. If I had an EDGE card it would have been $47.

Normally I speak out against trading in games but this seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. Anyone else agree?

Good deal or not?

So I decided to get rid of SSBB. Even though I don't like fighting games, I bought and tried it and haven't touched since Easter. I noticed Gamestop was having a trade-in special for GTAIV. I stopped in and inquired about the deal. Basically Gamestop gave me $35 for Brawl plus and extra $7 for putting toward GTAIV. So $42 trade-in value on a $50 game.

Normally I speak against trading in games but this seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. Anyone else agree?

gmastersexay

Good deal imo =P

So yeah, the new EGM review all but confirms the lingerings of the PS3 version being the superior technical version of the game. Here it is.

Grand Theft Auto IV - A+, A+, A
Good: World, relationships, story
Bad: Some missions canned, control takes getting used to
PS3 or 360 version: 360 for DLC, PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp

Snap son, snap.

Amnesiacx

Score one for the PS3!! booya

Good deal or not?

So I decided to get rid of SSBB. Even though I don't like fighting games, I bought and tried it and haven't touched since Easter. I noticed Gamestop was having a trade-in special for GTAIV. I stopped in and inquired about the deal. Basically Gamestop gave me $35 for Brawl plus and extra $7 for putting toward GTAIV. So $42 trade-in value on a $50 game. If I had an EDGE card it would have been $47.

Normally I speak out against trading in games but this seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. Anyone else agree?

gmastersexay

Well it's a good deal since you didn't get into the game - but I would never in a million years trade in brawl : it's incredible. (probably first game in a long while that lived up to it's massive hype).

Others have said that the 360 version is the one with the more vibrant colors, but the PS3 version has less aliasing issues. Who to believe? Regardless, the game looks damn fine, and almost all of the gameplay leaks have been from the 360 version. It looks great and the framerate is slick. If the PS3 version does look noticeably better, then wow is all I can say.

And yes, the 20% Gamestop trade-in deal is a great one. I actually ended up getting GTA4 for free because of it, since I traded in a few games I don't touch anymore.

[QUOTE="gmastersexay"]

Good deal or not?

So I decided to get rid of SSBB. Even though I don't like fighting games, I bought and tried it and haven't touched since Easter. I noticed Gamestop was having a trade-in special for GTAIV. I stopped in and inquired about the deal. Basically Gamestop gave me $35 for Brawl plus and extra $7 for putting toward GTAIV. So $42 trade-in value on a $50 game. If I had an EDGE card it would have been $47.

Normally I speak out against trading in games but this seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. Anyone else agree?

konichiwa21

Well it's a good deal since you didn't get into the game - but I would never in a million years trade in brawl : it's incredible. (probably first game in a long while that lived up to it's massive hype).

You wouldn't trade it in for GTA IV??

Traitor!!!!! lol jk

No one answered my question..

I think the PS3 DLC (if there'll be any) should be something like, new clothes, weapons, or side missions. Hell I'd be happy with some new clothes.

Also, can you smoke cigarettes/cigars in this game, cause that'd be awesome walking a way from a huge cop shootout smoking a cig. If not, it could go in the DLC.

I_pWnzz_YoU

Damn, I might have to book it from the net for a few days till GTA4's release. I keep hearing of people throwing out some major storyline spoilers on various forums now, presumably since people who have the game have had enough time to get through it at this point.

They're going the troll route and sticking the spoilers directly in the topic. Heard there have been quite a few on Gamefaqs. There are even ending spoilers. Luckily I haven't encountered one yet, but I'm not trying to take a chance.

Watching gameplay leaks is not really something I consider a spoiler, but revealing twists and plot points definitely is.

No one answered my question..

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

I think the PS3 DLC (if there'll be any) should be something like, new clothes, weapons, or side missions. Hell I'd be happy with some new clothes.

Also, can you smoke cigarettes/cigars in this game, cause that'd be awesome walking a way from a huge cop shootout smoking a cig. If not, it could go in the DLC.

I_pWnzz_YoU

Pretty sure you can't. One thing that's sort of weak that I heard is:

(slight spoilers)

[spoiler] you apparently can't just go into a bar and get drunk in the game by yourself, you have to "go out" with another character, and then you don't see them drinking at the bar table or anything, you just see them stumble out onto the street drunk after a few seconds. [/spoiler]

Not a big deal at all, but it would've been nice if it was the other way.

how do you put something in a spoiler title thingy? I just played it and want to talk about it.Hihatrider87

Put the text in between the tags [spoiler*] [/spoiler*], without the * asterisk.

[QUOTE="Hihatrider87"]how do you put something in a spoiler title thingy? I just played it and want to talk about it.Zeliard9

Put the text in between the tags [spoiler*] [/spoiler*], without the * asterisk.

[spoiler] like this? [/spoiler]

You got it.

If you spoil the story, I'm gonna kick your ass. :P

this is nothing particularly big. i didn't play any missions and it was very early on so i didn't get to use that many weapons. just thought i'd point out some things i noticed while playing it.

[spoiler] i turned up the brightness because the shadows were so drak sometimes that i couldn't really see Niko.... graphics were overall very good. still looks like gta, but with much more detail.... the peds and cops act much more human and serious. one cop, with almost all his health gone and struggling to hold his head up yelled, "tell my wife i love her." oddly enough, the genuineness in the peoples voices made me laugh out of surprise. killing the cute nurses in the hospital was weird.... you keep your weapons after you die (not after an arrest, so never give in). so to build up a stock of pistols and shotguns, i got at least some pistol ammo, holed up in a hospital, and continued to kill the cops as they came in and collected their guns.... i hardly ever found it effective to free-aim unless the target is far away.... a quick aiming tip- when you have targets behind you, instead of swinging the camera around, hold down the right analog click and then pull the targetting trigger. very helpful.... lastly. take cover when you can! [/spoiler]

i can't properly state just how awesome this game is.

Sounds awesome. Is the melee fighting tough? Most people don't seem to know how to work it yet, but I've seen a vid where the guy was

[spoiler] actually dodging punches, and destroying people with perfectly-timed combos of punches, shoves and kicks. It looked awesome, but most other people don't seem to know how to street fight yet. [/spoiler]

IGN gave GTA4....

a 10.

I do believe I called that.

IGN gave GTA4....

a 10.

I do believe I called that.

Zeliard9

So leet, a 10!!! Didn't think I'd ever see that again.

IGN gave GTA4....

a 10.

I do believe I called that.

Zeliard9

WOW!!!!!!! that is AWESOME!!!!!