The GTAIV Kickass Hype/Discussion Thread (56k) - KEEP IT HERE OR BE SUSPENDED!

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I've officially made up my mind. I'll get the PS3 version. I would get the 360 version, but I won't have time to play the new content with the rush of great games coming out later this year.

I guess the better load times, crisper gaphics, and less pop ins make it a technically superior game. I'll stilll rent the 360 version to see how much of a difference it is.

justforlotr2004

Dont forget you gotta take into account the multiplayer and controller. I personally have way more friends that are on XBL than PSN and the 360 controller feels better to me. The online will be better for 360 I think since the mic is standard and will be easier to cooperate in matches like Cops-n-crooks.

From all the leaked videos Ive seen I really couldnt tell which came from what, but of course they are all mostly low quailty vidoes anyway. Though I did see one video that was said to be 360 and it seemed to not have any frame drops or popins so Im not too worried. If it turns out to be a huge problem though I always got the PS3 as a backup.

Yeah, I'm sure it's not THAT big of a difference. Maybe quite noticeable when compared side by side. You're right about the multiplayer part though.

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

TREAL_Since

It's because companies like Rockstar, Criterion, Infinity Ward took the time to learn how to develope for the PS3 unlike most companies who had strict deadlines to meet and could not get the jist of the new tools for the PS3.

I think this shows that once devs get used to the new programming environment for the PS3 we will see nothing but equal multiplat games.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

daveg1

It's because companies like Rockstar, Criterion, Infinity Ward took the time to learn how to develope for the PS3 unlike most companies who had strict deadlines to meet and could not get the jist of the new tools for the PS3.

I think this shows that once devs get used to the new programming environment for the PS3 we will see nothing but equal multiplat games.

It's either one of the two:

1.) Rockstar are god developers and learned how to program for the PS3 better than most other companies.

2.) Rockstar purposely made the PS3 version technically superior.

I doubt its the latter :P. Of course the HDD helped out.

even on these multiplats that favour the ps3 they still have the same issues that plauge the ps3 versions..

It's either one of the two:

1.) Rockstar are god developers and learned how to program for the PS3 better than most other companies.

2.) Rockstar purposely made the PS3 version technically superior.

I doubt its the latter :P. Of course the HDD helped out.

TREAL_Since

I think its because they have had way more time than most developers to optimize the game for the PS3 unlike most Dev's.

im guessing the hdd helped a big part in a large open ended game like this where things need to be constantly loaded since a hdd acceses way faster than a dvd it would help with pop ins and texture loading.

the 360 version should have had the optional install we all heard about but really it aint nothing to worry about its not even worth talking about really since you rarely ever even see any...pop in and texture loading i mean.

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

daveg1

i found it hard to believe to.... still.. but the advantages in the ps3 version are being shared by other opinions..

and since the advantages are important to me.. i changed my pre-order. for me immersion is important. jaggies, pop-in, framerate, load times, etc, can make the immersion less.. i want the most immersive version. The game is good enough and long enough without the dlc and i think the PS3 version will get plenty of dlc.

They said the graphics were sharper AND less jaggie... so that's not more blurry....

Maybe the 360 dlc is even timed exclusive....

as for the colors, they said they were more vivid on 360.

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

TREAL_Since

It's because companies like Rockstar, Criterion, Infinity Ward took the time to learn how to develope for the PS3 unlike most companies who had strict deadlines to meet and could not get the jist of the new tools for the PS3.

I think this shows that once devs get used to the new programming environment for the PS3 we will see nothing but equal multiplat games.

yup those devs do good versions, cod 4 looked amazing on ps3 so did burnout paradise and will GTA 4, i dont really notice any probs as i dont nit pick grafix like some people on here

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

Always-Honest

i found it hard to believe to.... still.. but the advantages in the ps3 version are being shared by other opinions..

and since the advantages are important to me.. i changed my pre-order. for me immersion is important. jaggies, pop-in, framerate, load times, etc, can make the immersion less.. i want the most immersive version. The game is good enough and long enough without the dlc and i think the PS3 version will get plenty of dlc.

They said the graphics were sharper AND less jaggie... so that's not more blurry....

Maybe the 360 dlc is even timed exclusive....

as for the colors, they said they were more vivid on 360.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

Miss_Wacy

It's because companies like Rockstar, Criterion, Infinity Ward took the time to learn how to develope for the PS3 unlike most companies who had strict deadlines to meet and could not get the jist of the new tools for the PS3.

I think this shows that once devs get used to the new programming environment for the PS3 we will see nothing but equal multiplat games.

yup those devs do good versions, cod 4 looked amazing on ps3 so did burnout paradise and will GTA 4, i dont really notice any probs as i dont nit pick grafix like some people on here

indeed. the work criterion, infinity ward and rockstar did really impressed me. bth version will be fine from CoD4, Burnout Paradise and GTA4 (although the last game has more differences than the others appearently) .

Great job and an example for other developers.

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

Always-Honest

i found it hard to believe to.... still.. but the advantages in the ps3 version are being shared by other opinions..

and since the advantages are important to me.. i changed my pre-order. for me immersion is important. jaggies, pop-in, framerate, load times, etc, can make the immersion less.. i want the most immersive version. The game is good enough and long enough without the dlc and i think the PS3 version will get plenty of dlc.

They said the graphics were sharper AND less jaggie... so that's not more blurry....

Maybe the 360 dlc is even timed exclusive....

as for the colors, they said they were more vivid on 360.

Btw, they explined the whole "slighty less anti-aliasing issues" in the review. The PS3 has slightly better AA.

Hey guys just pick up my copy at my local mom and pop retailer.....the 360 version.

First thing you will notice is the driving...driving is much more realistic...therefore a little harder to drive, and will get some getting used to. I never really did a lot of the missions...just messing around, and damn, it is hard to outrun the police.

Another thing I noticed was, running or sprinting, of course I started a few fights with some gang members (or atleast I thought they were gang members) and those guys never get tired sprinting chasing after you, so I was on the receiving end of quite a few beatdowns because they simply are relentless and will chase you down for blocks, and you will be tired and slow as hell running that much....

Which brings me to my next point....hand to hand combat. Its been improved in the sense that hand to hand fighting is deeper with combos (kicks and punches) as well as the ability to dodge and unleash a devasting counter combo. Definetly a plus...

Now performance issues for the 360 version. I own both systems, and although I have the 360 version, and I dont have PS3 version to compare it too, I will be citing some comments from the IGN review.

Some of you know that this game got 10's across the board from IGN, but Im pretty sure that was a fluff review because no way it gets a 10 for graphics (IGN review was 10 for both platforms I believe). Its nice, but its GTA, its never been about the graphics. Now, as some of you know, I have always appluaded the standard HDD, I believe its essential, in game performance.

I dont believe the hype that Blu-ray makes any game better other than for audio and honestly most people dont have the audio hardware to take advantage of it..I do, and it cost me almost as much as my HDTV. I am a small sliver of the population. But if you can afford it, sound does make a HUGE difference in your gaming experience. But installing game data I believe is a MUST. Cuts down on loading, and can allow the game to put textures and other data on the HDD making for easy (faster) retrieval by the game. So I dont understand the Xbox fanboys making fun of the install times of PS3 games.

Now this issue presents itself in the 360 version. Again, I dont have the PS3 version to compare it to, so calm down Xbox Fanboys. I am simply going with the IGN review on this one. There was TONS and TONS of texture pop-in while playing, and it reminded me of Mass Effect. There were many times I was stuck in the street, or I simple did not see a building right in front of me and crashed right into it. Now the IGN review said there is LESS Pop-in, in the PS3 version not that it didnt have any. I cant help to think the HDD install helped this issue. In fact I know it did. Because it just makes sense. As for better AA and stuff I dont know about that yet, although I highly suspect that because the 360 has pretty much always had better AA performance, and Rockstar have been showing the 360 version for the majority of the time, and journalists have been play-testing the 360 version. I cant help to think the reviewer got this mixed up with the texture pop-in because during the many instances of such hic-ups the textures that are present are jaggy and raw as hell. Again I dont have the PS3 version so I could be 100% wrong on this. So I am dissapointed with that techinical issue, on the 360 side and hopefully it could be fixed with a patch but I doubt it, unless there is a patch that allows you to install game data onto the HDD.

But as far as the main game goes, I only played a couple of missions, and so far so good guys. It seems like this will be an epic, epic game. Voice acting is top notch, and the narrative seems really well written. Roman says some of the funniest things. Oh well I will go back to tweaking on this game for the next 3 days straight.

Btw, they explined the whole "slighty less anti-aliasing issues" in the review. The PS3 has slightly better AA.

donwoogie

yeah, great that they found a way... still sounds strange.. :P

Hey guys just pick up my copy at my local mom and pop retailer.....the 360 version.

First thing you will notice is the driving...driving is much more realistic...therefore a little harder to drive, and will get some getting used to. I never really did a lot of the missions...just messing around, and damn, it is hard to outrun the police.

Another thing I noticed was, running or sprinting, of course I started a few fights with some gang members (or atleast I thought they were gang members) and those guys never get tired sprinting chasing after you, so I was on the receiving end of quite a few beatdowns because they simply are relentless and will chase you down for blocks, and you will be tired and slow as hell running that much....

Which brings me to my next point....hand to hand combat. Its been improved in the sense that hand to hand fighting is deeper with combos (kicks and punches) as well as the ability to dodge and unleash a devasting counter combo. Definetly a plus...

Now performance issues for the 360 version. I own both systems, and although I have the 360 version, and I dont have PS3 version to compare it too, I will be citing some comments from the IGN review.

Some of you know that this game got 10's across the board from IGN, but Im pretty sure that was a fluff review because no way it gets a 10 for graphics (IGN review was 10 for both platforms I believe). Its nice, but its GTA, its never been about the graphics. Now, as some of you know, I have always appluaded the standard HDD, I believe its essential, in game performance.

I dont believe the hype that Blu-ray makes any game better other than for audio and honestly most people dont have the audio hardware to take advantage of it..I do, and it cost me almost as much as my HDTV. I am a small sliver of the population. But if you can afford it, sound does make a HUGE difference in your gaming experience. But installing game data I believe is a MUST. Cuts down on loading, and can allow the game to put textures and other data on the HDD making for easy (faster) retrieval by the game. So I dont understand the Xbox fanboys making fun of the install times of PS3 games.

Now this issue presents itself in the 360 version. Again, I dont have the PS3 version to compare it to, so calm down Xbox Fanboys. I am simply going with the IGN review on this one. There was TONS and TONS of texture pop-in while playing, and it reminded me of Mass Effect. There were many times I was stuck in the street, or I simple did not see a building right in front of me and crashed right into it. Now the IGN review said there is LESS Pop-in, in the PS3 version not that it didnt have any. I cant help to think the HDD install helped this issue. In fact I know it did. Because it just makes sense. As for better AA and stuff I dont know about that yet, although I highly suspect that because the 360 has pretty much always had better AA performance, and Rockstar have been showing the 360 version for the majority of the time, and journalists have been play-testing the 360 version. I cant help to think the reviewer got this mixed up with the texture pop-in because during the many instances of such hic-ups the textures that are present are jaggy and raw as hell. Again I dont have the PS3 version so I could be 100% wrong on this. So I am dissapointed with that techinical issue, on the 360 side and hopefully it could be fixed with a patch but I doubt it, unless there is a patch that allows you to install game data onto the HDD.

But as far as the main game goes, I only played a couple of missions, and so far so good guys. It seems like this will be an epic, epic game. Voice acting is top notch, and the narrative seems really well written. Roman says some of the funniest things. Oh well I will go back to tweaking on this game for the next 3 days straight.

rappid_rabbit

i don't think they tlaked about texture pop-in, but pop-in in general.. like building and trees poppin up in the distance

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

[QUOTE="donwoogie"]

Btw, they explined the whole "slighty less anti-aliasing issues" in the review. The PS3 has slightly better AA.

Always-Honest

yeah, great that they found a way... still sounds strange.. :P

lol, true

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

daveg1

The less pop in is soley due to the hard disk install and yes I would be very surprised if the PS3 version has less aliasing issues, that is pretty much unheard of for multiplats.

If it helps pop in I wonder why R* didn't offer an optional install on the 360 version?

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

-Renegade

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

-Renegade

what does this have to do with you loving the game... this has to do with you identifying yourself with a product you bought... you act like your TEAM has won.... it's silly to say the least.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

porzdeadline

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

speedsix

The less pop in is soley due to the hard disk install and yes I would be very surprised if the PS3 version has less aliasing issues, that is pretty much unheard of for multiplats.

If it helps pop in I wonder why R* didn't offer an optional install on the 360 version?

with the bd read speeds they need to do this on the ps3 other wise the pop ins would be dreadful but thankfully the ps3 comes standard with a hdd where as the 360 does not plus if the ps3 has you dump a large amount of data on the hdd those owners like me who have a 20 gig would be using way too much of that tiny space left over after system usage is taken. well depending on the install size.yes for sure people have 120g but more have 20 and none at all.

[QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

Miss_Wacy

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

well trust me as someone who barely ever posts and as someone who owns both consoles i can garante you that both sides are equal when it comes o that.... the reason why you dont realize it is because when a ps3 owner writes "OMG uncharted owns any 360 game and no 360 game will ever reach its level because its been maxed out and ps3 will keep getting better for 10 years" you dont pay as much attention as when someone writes "ps3 r teh sukzorz and multiplats suk on teh paystation" (and tbh i think cows are the worst then lemmings and sheep are barely ever in any discussions and pc gamers well they just think that theyre better but dont realize that somepeople prefer playin their games on a couch with a controler)

[QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

porzdeadline

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

well trust me as someone who barely ever posts and as someone who owns both consoles i can garante you that both sides are equal when it comes o that.... the reason why you dont realize it is because when a ps3 owner writes "OMG uncharted owns any 360 game and no 360 game will ever reach its level because its been maxed out and ps3 will keep getting better for 10 years" you dont pay as much attention as when someone writes "ps3 r teh sukzorz and multiplats suk on teh paystation" (and tbh i think cows are the worst then lemmings and sheep are barely ever in any discussions and pc gamers well they just think that theyre better but dont realize that somepeople prefer playin their games on a couch with a controler)

You know she owns both consoles dont you?

[QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

porzdeadline

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

well trust me as someone who barely ever posts and as someone who owns both consoles i can garante you that both sides are equal when it comes o that.... the reason why you dont realize it is because when a ps3 owner writes "OMG uncharted owns any 360 game and no 360 game will ever reach its level because its been maxed out and ps3 will keep getting better for 10 years" you dont pay as much attention as when someone writes "ps3 r teh sukzorz and multiplats suk on teh paystation" (and tbh i think cows are the worst then lemmings and sheep are barely ever in any discussions and pc gamers well they just think that theyre better but dont realize that somepeople prefer playin their games on a couch with a controler)

oh i do notice just cows are funny as are sheep, lemmings are just pig ignorant and try to enforce everything on everyone, allways making topics about how MGS 4 is teh down graAAAADZZZ, we have teh most AAAEEEEEZZZ its pathetic, especially wen they come out with if you get GTA 4 on ps3 your a fanboy :S i fail too see how, so dont try and tell me i dont see cos i do you seem to fail to see the lemming ignorance plaguing these forums daily, and i always see the same lems making the same topics again and again

[QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

daveg1

The less pop in is soley due to the hard disk install and yes I would be very surprised if the PS3 version has less aliasing issues, that is pretty much unheard of for multiplats.

If it helps pop in I wonder why R* didn't offer an optional install on the 360 version?

with the bd read speeds they need to do this on the ps3 other wise the pop ins would be dreadful but thankfully the ps3 comes standard with a hdd where as the 360 does not plus if the ps3 has you dump a large amount of data on the hdd those owners like me who have a 20 gig would be using way too much of that tiny space left over after system usage is taken. well depending on the install size.yes for sure people have 120g but more have 20 and none at all.

Unfortunately having the quote "Less pop in" from a review carries far more fanboy ammunition than some of the things outside the scope of the review i.e in this case exclusive episodic content and a superior online infrastructure.

[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

speedsix

The less pop in is soley due to the hard disk install and yes I would be very surprised if the PS3 version has less aliasing issues, that is pretty much unheard of for multiplats.

If it helps pop in I wonder why R* didn't offer an optional install on the 360 version?

with the bd read speeds they need to do this on the ps3 other wise the pop ins would be dreadful but thankfully the ps3 comes standard with a hdd where as the 360 does not plus if the ps3 has you dump a large amount of data on the hdd those owners like me who have a 20 gig would be using way too much of that tiny space left over after system usage is taken. well depending on the install size.yes for sure people have 120g but more have 20 and none at all.

Unfortunately having the quote "Less pop in" from a review carries far more fanboy ammunition than some of the things outside the scope of the review i.e in this case exclusive episodic content and a superior online infrastructure.

all i can say is that the 360 version looks amazing for the type of game gta is and giving the size of the map..

and beleive me the pop in is nothing!

[QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

Miss_Wacy

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

well trust me as someone who barely ever posts and as someone who owns both consoles i can garante you that both sides are equal when it comes o that.... the reason why you dont realize it is because when a ps3 owner writes "OMG uncharted owns any 360 game and no 360 game will ever reach its level because its been maxed out and ps3 will keep getting better for 10 years" you dont pay as much attention as when someone writes "ps3 r teh sukzorz and multiplats suk on teh paystation" (and tbh i think cows are the worst then lemmings and sheep are barely ever in any discussions and pc gamers well they just think that theyre better but dont realize that somepeople prefer playin their games on a couch with a controler)

oh i do notice just cows are funny as are sheep, lemmings are just pig ignorant and try to enforce everything on everyone, allways making topics about how MGS 4 is teh down graAAAADZZZ, we have teh most AAAEEEEEZZZ its pathetic, especially wen they come out with if you get GTA 4 on ps3 your a fanboy :S i fail too see how, so dont try and tell me i dont see cos i do you seem to fail to see the lemming ignorance plaguing these forums daily, and i always see the same lems making the same topics again and again

to me both seem ignorant and the way you described em.. and how many times did you hear Gaylo 3 is teh downgradz ? ;) trust me they are the same in every way just recently there have been more and more cows. and like i said before cows at least some of em are a whole lot worse then lemmings with the exception of people like shaolin or whatever his name was, even though i cant believe he was being serious :lol:

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

-Renegade

teh fanboyism in that post high

[QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

carlisledavid79

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

well trust me as someone who barely ever posts and as someone who owns both consoles i can garante you that both sides are equal when it comes o that.... the reason why you dont realize it is because when a ps3 owner writes "OMG uncharted owns any 360 game and no 360 game will ever reach its level because its been maxed out and ps3 will keep getting better for 10 years" you dont pay as much attention as when someone writes "ps3 r teh sukzorz and multiplats suk on teh paystation" (and tbh i think cows are the worst then lemmings and sheep are barely ever in any discussions and pc gamers well they just think that theyre better but dont realize that somepeople prefer playin their games on a couch with a controler)

You know she owns both consoles dont you?

thanks buddy i think i can read sigs ;) but i didnt know it was a girl even though seems kinda obvious now MissWacy

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

mingo123

teh fanboyism in that post high

oh btw mingo thats an awsome song in ur sig but i think tradin war stories is better

[QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="porzdeadline"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch.

IGN Review

Wow I am loving this game already. :D

porzdeadline

people i present to you the biggest fanboy of all times you may throw tomatoes and salad as much as you want...

but seriously do you get horny when you hear something like this or do you have complexes so you need something to feel better. anyways always wanted to say something to you cuz you are really the guy i hate most on this forum not because of the numbers that you always state lol.... but because your the biggest by far the biggest fanboy on this forum

lems do the same thing, its like ps3 users cant do anything in this place :S, its like its only ok for lems to brag etc, when a ps3 user says something OH NO FANBOY FANBOY

well trust me as someone who barely ever posts and as someone who owns both consoles i can garante you that both sides are equal when it comes o that.... the reason why you dont realize it is because when a ps3 owner writes "OMG uncharted owns any 360 game and no 360 game will ever reach its level because its been maxed out and ps3 will keep getting better for 10 years" you dont pay as much attention as when someone writes "ps3 r teh sukzorz and multiplats suk on teh paystation" (and tbh i think cows are the worst then lemmings and sheep are barely ever in any discussions and pc gamers well they just think that theyre better but dont realize that somepeople prefer playin their games on a couch with a controler)

oh i do notice just cows are funny as are sheep, lemmings are just pig ignorant and try to enforce everything on everyone, allways making topics about how MGS 4 is teh down graAAAADZZZ, we have teh most AAAEEEEEZZZ its pathetic, especially wen they come out with if you get GTA 4 on ps3 your a fanboy :S i fail too see how, so dont try and tell me i dont see cos i do you seem to fail to see the lemming ignorance plaguing these forums daily, and i always see the same lems making the same topics again and again

to me both seem ignorant and the way you described em.. and how many times did you hear Gaylo 3 is teh downgradz ? ;) trust me they are the same in every way just recently there have been more and more cows. and like i said before cows at least some of em are a whole lot worse then lemmings with the exception of people like shaolin or whatever his name was, even though i cant believe he was being serious :lol:

haha oh i saw the halo 3 threads but didnt care cos i was hyped for halo 3 and enjoyed it and actually told a few cows off for it some i must admit set em selvs up for major ownage i still find it funny they hyped lair in the state it was :lol:

see misswacy now we have come to an agreement. i dont think in systemswars you can say whose worse because on each side there are giant fanboys or people who respect all systems just one system is their prefered choice which is their right. and when i got mad at renegade it wasnt directed at all of the cows just him ;)

Now tell me again which game will be GOTY ? Let me hear it one more time sheeps... SSBM ?? haha!! Think again!!

Now tell me again which game will be GOTY ? Let me hear it one more time sheeps... SSBM ?? haha!! Think again!!

AzatiS

It's SSBB and it has nothing on GTAIV. This game in my eyes takes down every game in the queue this year. GEoW2 and MGS4 stand no chance and will probably get around the same score, 9.5.

I am so glad that this game is only a few days, the anticipation is killing me.

well the ps3 version has less texture pop ups and less loading (due to insalation) says ign, have the 360's days of being better in multiplat come to an end?imprezawrx500

It depends on how you rate a game being better, but if that is true, then graphically it is slightly better. However, if you rate it on content and multiplayer, then I'd say the 360 has the better version due to exclusive DLC and how XBL is a lot better MP interface.

im still confused on which version to get....now we all know ps3 version is better graphics wise but what about multiplayer? is it same on both consoles...im more comfortable with xbox live but i deffo dont want those pop-ins so i have no problem installing game on ps3

the install on the ps3 version probably helped a lot with some of the advantages but i find it hard to beleive the ps3 version has less jaggies when every other multiplat has way more jaggies they probably used more of the filter to reduce them it does a good job on the 360 version im playing...

colours also are always more vivid and pronounced the the 360 versions i guess il have to wait and see them for myself..

daveg1