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#2251 KillaHalo2o9
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OK, serious question. I don't like GTA games much. I just play them a while, a few missions and do some fun city killing spree.. but after that not much. IS this game that much different and better than the other games? I have to save some money this days and the cost of the game is more than what I payed for GTA III and GTA:SA.loco145

Um, online gameplay is gonna rock.

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#2252 I_pWnzz_YoU
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[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

To all those who say the PS3 WONT be getting andy DLC since it's"exclusiv" to the 360, you're wrong. "exclusive" DLC only means that it'll be different from the PS3 DLC, heres a link to the article explaining it. The 360 DLC may be better than the PS3 DLC since MS paid Rockstar like $50 mil or so.

[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="darklord888"]Argh PS3 has much less pop-in? :(

I'm getting the 360 version and I HATE pop-ins! I guess I'll be getting the PC version as well in 8 months time.

Good news to see IGN gave it 10 though. That is truely epic. ParadiddleFill

i heard there will not be a PC version



There will be. There always has been but it might take 6-12 months with updated graphics and probably a few DLC things for free(like Mass Effect).

Hmm noob question: What are pop ins? :lol:

wow that article is ancient, its already been confirmed that ps3 will not be getting DLC

microsoft paid alot of money for it

It will, maybe not as big as the 360 DLC but the PS3 will be getting DLC.

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#2253 doobie1975
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52403

really cool video showing the diiferance between ragdoll and the euphoria animation technoligy

not spoliers or gameplay in the video

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#2254 JocktheMotie
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I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

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#2255 KillaHalo2o9
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52403

really cool video showing the diiferance between ragdoll and the euphoria animation technoligy

not spoliers or gameplay in the video

doobie1975

Thats neat.

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#2256 cjnwo4life
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"]

To all those who say the PS3 WONT be getting andy DLC since it's"exclusiv" to the 360, you're wrong. "exclusive" DLC only means that it'll be different from the PS3 DLC, heres a link to the article explaining it. The 360 DLC may be better than the PS3 DLC since MS paid Rockstar like $50 mil or so.

[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="darklord888"]Argh PS3 has much less pop-in? :(

I'm getting the 360 version and I HATE pop-ins! I guess I'll be getting the PC version as well in 8 months time.

Good news to see IGN gave it 10 though. That is truely epic. I_pWnzz_YoU

i heard there will not be a PC version



There will be. There always has been but it might take 6-12 months with updated graphics and probably a few DLC things for free(like Mass Effect).

Hmm noob question: What are pop ins? :lol:

wow that article is ancient, its already been confirmed that ps3 will not be getting DLC

microsoft paid alot of money for it

It will, maybe not as big as the 360 DLC but the PS3 will be getting DLC.

They will get DLC but lets be clear as some want to pretend it will be similar to the 360, it won't be close. Yes maybe a new online more for the ps3, clothes etc but the 360 will get 2 massive games more than likely similar to vice city etc. A whole new game. Don't hate just deal with it and don't make excuses. If you want the ps3 version then get it and be happy but don't sit here and make things up or pull things out your **S hoping someone will be stupid enough to believe you. The DLC will be huge on the 360 and rockstar has said so, they said nothing about the ps3 ( the game makers and they no better than you)!

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#2257 ParadiddleFill
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I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

JocktheMotie

the diffrenece in the graphics are very minimal

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#2258 cjnwo4life
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I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

JocktheMotie

Actually it seems that rockstar agrees but they also believe that they know the fix (2 to be exact) and I am 100% sure they have told the heads at MS and if you know anything about the megabillion dollar profit machine is they do whatever it takes to stay ahead (i.e. a wii like remote this fall) and soon the HDD will be allowed to be used by all Devs in order to make the game better. Trust MS is way ahead of anything we on these sites can ever think of.

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#2259 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="JocktheMotie"]

I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

ParadiddleFill

the diffrenece in the graphics are very minimal

Both systems have there pros and cons.

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#2261 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="JocktheMotie"]

I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

cjnwo4life

Actually it seems that rockstar agrees but they also believe that they know the fix (2 to be exact) and I am 100% sure they have told the heads at MS and if you know anything about the megabillion dollar profit machine is they do whatever it takes to stay ahead (i.e. a wii like remote this fall) and soon the HDD will be allowed to be used by all Devs in order to make the game better. Trust MS is way ahead of anything we on these sites can ever think of.

Dunno. If MS said devs could make games assuming the Xbox 360s had guaranteed HDD, that would be ignoring all the consumers who bought their HDD-less models which would be a publicity nightmare. Their credibility is already down because of the RROD issue, I don't think they will risk dropping it lower after they have spent all this time trying to bring it back up.

I imagine they will probably just try and rectify it with the next iteration of the Xbox console.

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#2262 justforlotr2004
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From what I've read from Rockstar themselves they said it would be things like people walking up to you in the street and offering you missions. An example was this guy wanting you to beat up another guy that was f*cking his girlfriend.

I think you'll be disappointed if you expect a Vice City sized expansion.
I don't think Rockstar would want to miss out on the sales the PS3 could add to that.
Besides don't you think a new island would be more than 10(10 for each DLC) hours of gameplay?

3XRatedlocc

The game is said to take 25-40 hours to complete so I dont think a new island would take nearly as long as the full game.

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#2263 Hoobinator
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Over the past two years I've never much been interested in this game.

But mama mia! have I bought into the hype for this game. It better ******* deliver, especially online or I'm gonna be pissed. :evil:

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#2264 donwoogie
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Over the past two years I've never much been interested in this game.

But mama mia! have I bought into the hype for this game. It better ******* deliver, especially online or I'm gonna be pissed. :evil:

Hoobinator

lol, perfect 10 from IGN. That breeds big expectations.

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#2265 TellDaddy
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I don't know if this is possible but could games store data on a thumbdrive and access it the same way it does a HDD? 1gb-2gb thumb drives are dirt cheap, I can't even imagine the price if bought in bulk. I would like to see what the 360 version would be like if Rockstar had a couple gigs of info that did not have to be accessed from the disc. If the info could be read off a usb thumbdrive at a fast enough speed like a HDD this would solve some problems the 360 will be facing in certain games down the road.

Is there anything I'm not factoring in with this idea because if not it makes sense to bundle thumbrives for people without HDD. If the game were an extra $2 it would cover the cost of the thumbrives and $2 is not enough to enrage core owners.

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#2266 rimnet00
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I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

JocktheMotie

The difference isn't even that noticable unless you were being nitty picky with both games side by side. The pop-ins aren't like in other games, its so minimal that I don't even think there was any point of even mentioning it in the IGN review.

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#2267 Prince_Denspion
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I admit i never really got into the GTA series and never played any of them other than a little vice city, even this game seemed just another GTA game, until i saw the IGN video review and that it got a 10, now i'm hyped and ready to get the PS3 version, since I don't have an Xbox 360 I don't have to worry about getting the best version, i'll take what i can get and its gonna be aawesome either way. So my PS3 will have a nice AAAA game, :D awesome.

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#2268 james28893
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OK, serious question. I don't like GTA games much. I just play them a while, a few missions and do some fun city killing spree.. but after that not much. IS this game that much different and better than the other games? I have to save some money this days and the cost of the game is more than what I payed for GTA III and GTA:SA.loco145

Graphics are far superior obviously, there are neat little touches like voice commands on the sat nav, and there's multiplayer which IGN said was impressive.

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#2269 donwoogie
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I don't know if this is possible but could games store data on a thumbdrive and access it the same way it does a HDD? 1gb-2gb thumb drives are dirt cheap, I can't even imagine the price if bought in bulk. I would like to see what the 360 version would be like if Rockstar had a couple gigs of info that did not have to be accessed from the disc. If the info could be read off a usb thumbdrive at a fast enough speed like a HDD this would solve some problems the 360 will be facing in certain games down the road.

Is there anything I'm not factoring in with this idea because if not it makes sense to bundle thumbrives for people without HDD. If the game were an extra $2 it would cover the cost of the thumbrives and $2 is not enough to enrage core owners.

TellDaddy

Well here's the thing. With a PS3, if you stick any USB drive into it, it automaticlly reads the data and you can even download firmware updates through your pc, put them on your thumbdrive, and install them from there onto the PS3, but MS have made it very difficult to transfer files back and forth from USB devices. I can't even transfer items off my ipod onto the Xbox 360, it can only stream them. MS like to run on a closed system. Using thumb drives would pose a risk to that system.

Though, games being distributed via thumb drives is a topic that has been broached in the past and may be used in future game consoles, I just don't thnk it will happen right now. As for using the thumb drive like a HDD for games like GTA which load stuff off of it, it would be faster than loading off of the disc, but not as fast as the HDD, not to mention it would require a whole new code of programming to utlise USB external memory. The main point is, MS sold the Xbox Xbob 360 core and Arcade models to consumers with the promise that they oculd get gaming for cheap with that model. Teling consumers down the line that, actually, they need to by an extra peripheral to play new games would damage their credibility. Though they may be able to do it in the same way that the N64 later had a expansion pack for playing perfect dark and donkey kong better, though I'm not entirely sure if that was successful............

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#2270 justforlotr2004
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I don't know if this is possible but could games store data on a thumbdrive and access it the same way it does a HDD? 1gb-2gb thumb drives are dirt cheap, I can't even imagine the price if bought in bulk. I would like to see what the 360 version would be like if Rockstar had a couple gigs of info that did not have to be accessed from the disc. If the info could be read off a usb thumbdrive at a fast enough speed like a HDD this would solve some problems the 360 will be facing in certain games down the road.

Is there anything I'm not factoring in with this idea because if not it makes sense to bundle thumbrives for people without HDD. If the game were an extra $2 it would cover the cost of the thumbrives and $2 is not enough to enrage core owners.

TellDaddy

No that is not possible at all, it would of been a good idea to have an optional install but I dont think its that big of a problem to have to do that.

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#2271 TellDaddy
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MS really should of just made one 60gb XBOX 360 and not messed around with different units right off the hop. This is not to say that I don't love my 360 and that it isn't a very capable machine it just drives me nuts to know that if every unit had a decent size drive (I'm constantly erasasing crap of my 20gb for new downloads) that it would be so much more, other then RROD it would be perfect.

Whoever decided to not go with a standard HDD should lose his job, it was an easily preventable gaffe.

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#2272 -Ninja_Dog-
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I wouldn't believe IGN if I were you all.

They have a stake in the PS3 succeeding.

Plus they review the games on different TV.

Lets wait for other reviews before we crown the PS3 version slighty better graphics department.

Plus Rockstar said themselves that the Xbox is sharper and more clinical.

PS3 version hides its jaggies with blurryness.

Plus the Xbox has better color.

Lets just wait and see.

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#2273 Uptown
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I wouldn't believe IGN if I were you all.

They have a stake in the PS3 succeeding.

Plus they review the games on different TV.

Lets wait for other reviews before we crown the PS3 version slighty better graphics department.

Plus Rockstar said themselves that the Xbox is sharper and more clinical.

PS3 version hides its jaggies with blurryness.

Plus the Xbox has better color.

Lets just wait and see.

-Ninja_Dog-

IGN arent the only ones that said it...thats the thing. nice try though.

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#2274 navneet21
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I wouldn't believe IGN if I were you all.

They have a stake in the PS3 succeeding.

Plus they review the games on different TV.

Lets wait for other reviews before we crown the PS3 version slighty better graphics department.

Plus Rockstar said themselves that the Xbox is sharper and more clinical.

PS3 version hides its jaggies with blurryness.

Plus the Xbox has better color.

Lets just wait and see.

-Ninja_Dog-

All of your points don't make sense.... Rockstar never said xbox 360 is sharper and core clinical for GTA IV and how the hell does PS3 hides the jaggies with blurryness...its already been confirmed by IGN that the PS3 version of GTA IV has AntiA and load times are also faster on PS3 confirmed by IGN again... however this doesn't make the game better its still the same game on both systems and you people need to stop complaning and stop choosing one system over the other just enjoy the game no matter on what system you buy it on.

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#2275 justforlotr2004
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I wouldn't believe IGN if I were you all.

They have a stake in the PS3 succeeding.

Plus they review the games on different TV.

Lets wait for other reviews before we crown the PS3 version slighty better graphics department.

Plus Rockstar said themselves that the Xbox is sharper and more clinical.

PS3 version hides its jaggies with blurryness.

Plus the Xbox has better color.

Lets just wait and see.

-Ninja_Dog-

Eh I say dont start the conspiricy theroies yet, it will only look like damage control to everyone else. Though I agree we should wait for a wider view on things from other reviews.

Im sure Gametrailers will have a compairson video up very soon.

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#2276 Flamestos
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They will get DLC but lets be clear as some want to pretend it will be similar to the 360, it won't be close. Yes maybe a new online more for the ps3, clothes etc but the 360 will get 2 massive games more than likely similar to vice city etc. A whole new game. Don't hate just deal with it and don't make excuses. If you want the ps3 version then get it and be happy but don't sit here and make things up or pull things out your **S hoping someone will be stupid enough to believe you. The DLC will be huge on the 360 and rockstar has said so, they said nothing about the ps3 ( the game makers and they no better than you)!

Let's be realistic here and use Oblivion as an example. I think the GTA 4 Microsoft exclusive episodes will be more like the KNights Of The Nine expansions each with a price range of $10-$15 for 10 hours of gameplay of new outside and maybe branching storyline missions like it was stated about random people asking for help etc... If Rockstar was planning Shivering Isles kind of expansions episodes with a new island on each one you'd be paying like $30 for each and I doubt Rockstar would do that since most of the people to purchase the content will be hardcore gamers with a little bit of casual here and there.

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#2278 Dante2710
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wow people still arguing over the ign review? who the hell cares,,,,,textures pop ins.....as far as i know isnt as bad as lets say in gears....and longer loading times.....whooppie doo...im enjoying LO even if the loading times are a bit long at certain points
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#2279 ReverseCycology
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I'll be getting it for the 360, one example why, is because if this little thing called achievements. I mean say you're online and you tell the other players you killed 10,000 pedestrians, how would people know if you're telling the truth? Simple, they would just look at your achievements. Also with the multiplayer you could showcase your true skill by the superior ranking system Xbox Live has. So you can weed out the noobs from the people who's really has a competitive spirit, most of them are 360 owners.

The 360 version just have so many features available now, it has custom sound tracks, achievements, everyone is guaranteed to have headsets, every controller has rumble (you will need to buy a DS3 for your PS3 if you want rumble, $55).

Also if people can enjoy games like Mass Effect and Lost Oyssey which are critically acclaim games, I'm pretty sure people can enjoy the 360 version of GTA IV, because these technical differences aren't noticable to the naked eye by the average gamer.

Also think of it like this, say GTA IV is ice cream and so far everyone thinks it's delicious. While both 360 and PS3 will get a scoop, only the 360 owners will have extra exclusive episodic scoops. Now that's something to whet your appetite, mMm GTA IV is hella yummy, me want more!

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#2280 Flamestos
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I'll be getting it for the 360, one example why, is because if this little thing called achievements. I mean say you're online and you tell the other players you killed 10,000 pedestrians, how would people know if you're telling the truth? Simple, they would just look at your achievements. Also with the multiplayer you could showcase your true skill by the superior ranking system Xbox Live has. So you can weed out the noobs from the people who's really has a competitive spirit, most of them are 360 owners.

The 360 version just have so many features available now, it has custom sound tracks, achievements, everyone is guaranteed to have headsets, every controller has rumble (you will need to buy a DS3 for your PS3 if you want rumble, $55).

Also if people can enjoy games like Mass Effect and Lost Oyssey which are critically acclaim games, I'm pretty sure people can enjoy the 360 version of GTA IV, because these technical differences aren't noticable to the naked eye by the average gamer.

Also think of it like this, say GTA IV is ice cream and so far everyone thinks it's delicious. While both 360 and PS3 will get a scoop, only the 360 owners will have extra exclusive episodic scoops. Now that's something to whet your appetite, mMm GTA IV is hella yummy, me want more! ReverseCycology

Well at least you made a half decent post before you went all 360 fanboy this time. Yes, everyone (whose into these ktype of games) will get to play GTA 4 and I hope it's as awesome and I'll see if it's worth all of these 10's it seems to be racking up.

As far as the technical differents are concerned it's not really that big a deal considering all the issues the PS2 GTA's had and never took away from their awesomeness.

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#2281 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I'll be getting it for the 360, one example why, is because if this little thing called achievements. I mean say you're online and you tell the other players you killed 10,000 pedestrians, how would people know if you're telling the truth? Simple, they would just look at your achievements. Also with the multiplayer you could showcase your true skill by the superior ranking system Xbox Live has. So you can weed out the noobs from the people who's really has a competitive spirit, most of them are 360 owners.

The 360 version just have so many features available now, it has custom sound tracks, achievements, everyone is guaranteed to have headsets, every controller has rumble (you will need to buy a DS3 for your PS3 if you want rumble, $55).

Also if people can enjoy games like Mass Effect and Lost Oyssey which are critically acclaim games, I'm pretty sure people can enjoy the 360 version of GTA IV, because these technical differences aren't noticable to the naked eye by the average gamer.

Also think of it like this, say GTA IV is ice cream and so far everyone thinks it's delicious. While both 360 and PS3 will get a scoop, only the 360 owners will have extra exclusive episodic scoops. Now that's something to whet your appetite, mMm GTA IV is hella yummy, me want more! Flamestos

Well at least you made a half decent post before you went all 360 fanboy this time. Yes, everyone (whose into these ktype of games) will get to play GTA 4 and I hope it's as awesome and I'll see if it's worth all of these 10's it seems to be racking up.

As far as the technical differents are concerned it's not really that big a deal considering all the issues the PS2 GTA's had and never took away from their awesomeness.

Very true.

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From what I've read from Rockstar themselves they said it would be things like people walking up to you in the street and offering you missions. An example was this guy wanting you to beat up another guy that was f*cking his girlfriend.


3XRatedlocc

In all seriousness, if that is true, I find nothing wrong in having more variety on how the missions are offered.

People can talk about the freedom of the series all they want, but having to go to telf. booth A and location B and C and D for the first 60 to 70 % of the game after you finished each mission, only to go to the same locations over and over again to progress in the game is the very epitome of having a very poorly structured freedom.

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#2283 Egghead360
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I think the game will be amazing but JUST a word warning regarding the IGN review. Firstly, the video review was trash, it hardly talked about WHY those things are good but more important

JADE EMPIRE = 9.9

That is all...

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#2284 -Jiggles-
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How long do you think it'll be until we see a bunch of "GTA IV = Overrated" threads?
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How long do you think it'll be until we see a bunch of "GTA IV = Overrated" threads?-Jiggles-

April 29th 12 Am.

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I'll be getting it for the 360, one example why, is because if this little thing called achievements. I mean say you're online and you tell the other players you killed 10,000 pedestrians, how would people know if you're telling the truth? Simple, they would just look at your achievements. Also with the multiplayer you could showcase your true skill by the superior ranking system Xbox Live has. So you can weed out the noobs from the people who's really has a competitive spirit, most of them are 360 owners.

The 360 version just have so many features available now, it has custom sound tracks, achievements, everyone is guaranteed to have headsets, every controller has rumble (you will need to buy a DS3 for your PS3 if you want rumble, $55).

Also if people can enjoy games like Mass Effect and Lost Oyssey which are critically acclaim games, I'm pretty sure people can enjoy the 360 version of GTA IV, because these technical differences aren't noticable to the naked eye by the average gamer.

Also think of it like this, say GTA IV is ice cream and so far everyone thinks it's delicious. While both 360 and PS3 will get a scoop, only the 360 owners will have extra exclusive episodic scoops. Now that's something to whet your appetite, mMm GTA IV is hella yummy, me want more!

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Your avatar is the same as my gamer pic.:P

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#2287 speedsix
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[QUOTE="cjnwo4life"][QUOTE="JocktheMotie"]

I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

donwoogie

Actually it seems that rockstar agrees but they also believe that they know the fix (2 to be exact) and I am 100% sure they have told the heads at MS and if you know anything about the megabillion dollar profit machine is they do whatever it takes to stay ahead (i.e. a wii like remote this fall) and soon the HDD will be allowed to be used by all Devs in order to make the game better. Trust MS is way ahead of anything we on these sites can ever think of.

Dunno. If MS said devs could make games assuming the Xbox 360s had guaranteed HDD, that would be ignoring all the consumers who bought their HDD-less models which would be a publicity nightmare. Their credibility is already down because of the RROD issue, I don't think they will risk dropping it lower after they have spent all this time trying to bring it back up.

I imagine they will probably just try and rectify it with the next iteration of the Xbox console.

There are already games that require the hard drive to play, Football Manager being one.

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#2288 cod4ownzzz
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I'll be getting it for the 360, one example why, is because if this little thing called achievements. I mean say you're online and you tell the other players you killed 10,000 pedestrians, how would people know if you're telling the truth? Simple, they would just look at your achievements. Also with the multiplayer you could showcase your true skill by the superior ranking system Xbox Live has. So you can weed out the noobs from the people who's really has a competitive spirit, most of them are 360 owners.

The 360 version just have so many features available now, it has custom sound tracks, achievements, everyone is guaranteed to have headsets, every controller has rumble (you will need to buy a DS3 for your PS3 if you want rumble, $55).

Also if people can enjoy games like Mass Effect and Lost Oyssey which are critically acclaim games, I'm pretty sure people can enjoy the 360 version of GTA IV, because these technical differences aren't noticable to the naked eye by the average gamer.

Also think of it like this, say GTA IV is ice cream and so far everyone thinks it's delicious. While both 360 and PS3 will get a scoop, only the 360 owners will have extra exclusive episodic scoops. Now that's something to whet your appetite, mMm GTA IV is hella yummy, me want more!

ReverseCycology

B..bb...ut rrod!!!!!!!!! Seriously i dont even care about rrod anymore, my 360 has held up fine. What i do give a crap about is that it likes scratching disks. Several levels of cod4 are now unplayable because of the damage done by my 360, and this completely nullifies every single advantage you gave there.

Also achievements is the worst "plus" you listed. Most people don't give a ****, especially cows, since they haven't even experienced them . From my understanding GTA has always had a comprehensive list of stats anyway (well liberty city stories did anyway).

I doubt the difference between the two will be very noticeable, unless you happen to have both versions. GENUINE 360 advantages are: DLC, custom soundtracks, everyone has a headset, and a significantly larger online community. However, im sure ps3 will also have custom soundtracks also down the line. Larger online community is irrelevant for this game, as it will sell millions on ps3 as well. Headset isn't that big a deal for this game either, since gta has always been about the single player, and many ps3 players have headset also.

Bottom line, if you are not concerned about rrod or scratchy disks (this game will receive an incredible amount of play time) and would like dlc, you would be stupid not to get the 360 version. (BUT playstation and gta belong wit each other!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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#2289 cod4ownzzz
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^^ We should all just be thankful that we dont own the Wii as our sole console, and let the bickering end. Like cod4, both sides will be getting an awesome game.
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#2290 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="cjnwo4life"][QUOTE="JocktheMotie"]

I'm really dissappointed that the lack of a standard HDD held the 360 version back a bit. When MS announced this, I knew it would be an issue down the road. In an open-world game like GTA, is where the PS3 will definitely be able flex it's muscles because of that hard drive. While the 360 can stream from the disc faster than the PS3 can, it's not even close to the speed with which the system can access HDD data.

Get ready for the 360 to start lagging behind PS3 in terms of graphical fidelity with these types of games. Hopefully MS will learn its lesson, you can't go BACKWARDS when going from gen to gen.

speedsix

Actually it seems that rockstar agrees but they also believe that they know the fix (2 to be exact) and I am 100% sure they have told the heads at MS and if you know anything about the megabillion dollar profit machine is they do whatever it takes to stay ahead (i.e. a wii like remote this fall) and soon the HDD will be allowed to be used by all Devs in order to make the game better. Trust MS is way ahead of anything we on these sites can ever think of.

Dunno. If MS said devs could make games assuming the Xbox 360s had guaranteed HDD, that would be ignoring all the consumers who bought their HDD-less models which would be a publicity nightmare. Their credibility is already down because of the RROD issue, I don't think they will risk dropping it lower after they have spent all this time trying to bring it back up.

I imagine they will probably just try and rectify it with the next iteration of the Xbox console.

There are already games that require the hard drive to play, Football Manager being one.

Okay, but that's not a major title for the Xbox 360 (no offense to Football Manager) and I'm talking about large numbers of games requiring HDD.

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#2292 omarguy01
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10/10 from ign :o nice...

not interested in GTA much but... i dont know... it's starting to look really good.

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#2293 Blackification
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Man I always wanted this game but I was afraid if I looked into it I would get too hyped and get too excited like I did for brawl so I stayed away from a lot of info. Today I went to see the list of weapons and katana's aren't there anymore :( that makes me very sad that was my favorite weapon.
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Man I always wanted this game but I was afraid if I looked into it I would get too hyped and get too excited like I did for brawl so I stayed away from a lot of info. Today I went to see the list of weapons and katana's aren't there anymore :( that makes me very sad that was my favorite weapon.Blackification

Me too. Twas awesome. Always had a katana on me in vice City and San Andreas. Never knew when it might come in handy :P

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#2295 Abriael
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A good friend of mine works in a big videogame shop chain, and, lucky him, already had the time to try both version extensively.

Now, I actually hate him, because he waved the game (both the normal version and the LE) in front of my sorry nose, and refused to sell me a copy, making me very very sad.
To earn my forgiveness for that unforgivable sin, he gave me quite an extensive report on the comparison between the two versions (both tested with HDMI cable connection):
We already know about the shorter loading time in the PS3 version, but that was a given, since the PS3 can use it's hard disk (and the guys at Rockstar recently complained about the lack of such possibility on the 360). In addition to that, while the PS3 version has a smooth framerate in every situation, the 360 version staggers quite visibly in some crowded situations, expecially when you turn your character around.
Finally, the lighting of the PS3 version is quite better than the 360 one, whose palette looks dull and colder in comparison.

Of course many will doubt this, and I wouldn't blame them, but the person that gave me this report is one of the most knowledgeable people i know oin the videogaming field, so I, for one, have no reason to doubt him. It all will be revealed in 3 days anyway.

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A good friend of mine works in a big videogame shop chain, and, lucky him, already had the time to try both version extensively.

Now, I actually hate him, because he waved the game (both the normal version and the LE) in front of my sorry nose, and refused to sell me a copy, making me very very sad.
To earn my forgiveness for that unforgivable sin, he gave me quite an extensive report on the comparison between the two versions (both tested with HDMI cable connection):
We already know about the shorter loading time in the PS3 version, but that was a given, since the PS3 can use it's hard disk (and the guys at Rockstar recently complained about the lack of such possibility on the 360). In addition to that, while the PS3 version has a smooth framerate in every situation, the 360 version staggers quite visibly in some crowded situations, expecially when you turn your character around.
Finally, the lighting of the PS3 version is quite better than the 360 one, whose palette looks dull and colder in comparison.

Of course many will doubt this, and I wouldn't blame them, but the person that gave me this report is one of the most knowledgeable people i know oin the videogaming field, so I, for one, have no reason to doubt him. It all will be revealed in 3 days anyway.

Abriael

i want to believe you, but you yourself dont know if your friend just pulled some crap out of his ass or if he really did notice those differences

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A good friend of mine works in a big videogame shop chain, and, lucky him, already had the time to try both version extensively.

Now, I actually hate him, because he waved the game (both the normal version and the LE) in front of my sorry nose, and refused to sell me a copy, making me very very sad.
To earn my forgiveness for that unforgivable sin, he gave me quite an extensive report on the comparison between the two versions (both tested with HDMI cable connection):
We already know about the shorter loading time in the PS3 version, but that was a given, since the PS3 can use it's hard disk (and the guys at Rockstar recently complained about the lack of such possibility on the 360). In addition to that, while the PS3 version has a smooth framerate in every situation, the 360 version staggers quite visibly in some crowded situations, expecially when you turn your character around.
Finally, the lighting of the PS3 version is quite better than the 360 one, whose palette looks dull and colder in comparison.

Of course many will doubt this, and I wouldn't blame them, but the person that gave me this report is one of the most knowledgeable people i know oin the videogaming field, so I, for one, have no reason to doubt him. It all will be revealed in 3 days anyway.

Abriael

Interesting, sounds like the 360 version suffers from the same problems as Mass Effect. This could change the minds of dual console owners, I've already seen a couple of people who said they would switch their pre-order to the PS3 version.

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So. IGN has reviewed it and gives the (admittedly by them) slight visual edge to the PS3. Says the framerate is more stable & the pop-in, if there is any, is less noticeable on the PS3. So the PS3 gets the visual edge.

Meanwhile, the 360 gets to boast its episodic content... although not until later in the year.

Logically, that means that neither side gets a coup de grace victory, and obviously it's a ten on either platform. Still, I can't shake the feeling that fanboys of all types are going to continue to argue ownage over both points for months. Meanwhile, to everyone with a brain - enjoy the game! I know I'm way more pumped for it now than I have been for a long time.

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#2299 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="Abriael"]

A good friend of mine works in a big videogame shop chain, and, lucky him, already had the time to try both version extensively.

Now, I actually hate him, because he waved the game (both the normal version and the LE) in front of my sorry nose, and refused to sell me a copy, making me very very sad.
To earn my forgiveness for that unforgivable sin, he gave me quite an extensive report on the comparison between the two versions (both tested with HDMI cable connection):
We already know about the shorter loading time in the PS3 version, but that was a given, since the PS3 can use it's hard disk (and the guys at Rockstar recently complained about the lack of such possibility on the 360). In addition to that, while the PS3 version has a smooth framerate in every situation, the 360 version staggers quite visibly in some crowded situations, expecially when you turn your character around.
Finally, the lighting of the PS3 version is quite better than the 360 one, whose palette looks dull and colder in comparison.

Of course many will doubt this, and I wouldn't blame them, but the person that gave me this report is one of the most knowledgeable people i know oin the videogaming field, so I, for one, have no reason to doubt him. It all will be revealed in 3 days anyway.

Floppy_Jim

Interesting, sounds like the 360 version suffers from the same problems as Mass Effect. This could change the minds of dual console owners, I've already seen a couple of people who said they would switch their pre-order to the PS3 version.

the game plays the same as the 360 version with slightly better graphics on the ps3 with 360 having more vibrant colors

stop making a snowball into a mountain. those minor graphics diffreneces arent enough to make alot of people change their minds over the 360 version which has exclusive DLC, custom soundtracks and the live community

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So. IGN has reviewed it and gives the (admittedly by them) slight visual edge to the PS3. Says the framerate is more stable & the pop-in, if there is any, is less noticeable on the PS3. So the PS3 gets the visual edge.

Meanwhile, the 360 gets to boast its episodic content... although not until later in the year.

Logically, that means that neither side gets a coup de grace victory, and obviously it's a ten on either platform. Still, I can't shake the feeling that fanboys of all types are going to continue to argue ownage over both points for months. Meanwhile, to everyone with a brain - enjoy the game! I know I'm way more pumped for it now than I have been for a long time.

skirlnik
i just got a called from ebgames about my pre-ordered -_- monday midnight cant come any sonner!!