The HALO killer is finally here!

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

Meu2k7

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

And by your own admission, Crysis (current messiah of PC shooters, it seems) borrows gameplay mechanics introduced by Halo.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

Grive

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

those are only the most recent ones as well. there were more that showed up and more being released (The Darkness)

but it's on the PC

I'll pass

onewiththegame

also on xbox, and yes it IS superior to halo 2 IMO.

[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

but it's on the PC

I'll pass

Trading_Zoner

also on xbox, and yes it IS superior to halo 2 IMO.

those are only the most recent ones as well. there were more that showed up and more being released (The Darknes)

_en1gma_

Just went off the top of my head. Funny enough, I didn't know Crysis used the insta-grenade and health system, so thanks to Meu for giving me something else. And didn't Splinter Cell:DA use something similar? I don't recall precisely.

mmm, I feel like playing now... bye all

Ganon_919

yeah i started getting back into a few days ago....i miss 1.6, but im sticking with source

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

those are only the most recent ones as well. there were more that showed up and more being released (The Darknes)

Grive

Just went off the top of my head. Funny enough, I didn't know Crysis used the insta-grenade and health system, so thanks to Meu for giving me something else. And didn't Splinter Cell:DA use something similar? I don't recall precisely.

[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

mmm, I feel like playing now... bye all

djxaquaxblue

yeah i started getting back into a few days ago....i miss 1.6, but im sticking with source

i dont know. the only sc game ive played was pandora tomorrow, which i barely remember anything from.

and it is funny that Crysis is using gameplay mechanics that Halo CE introduced. ironic :lol:

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

Grive

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

And by your own admission, Crysis (current messiah of PC shooters, it seems) borrows gameplay mechanics introduced by Halo.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

[QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

mmm, I feel like playing now... bye all

_en1gma_

yeah i started getting back into a few days ago....i miss 1.6, but im sticking with source

i dont know. the only sc game ive played was pandora tomorrow, which i barely remember anything from.

and it is funny that Crysis is using gameplay mechanics that Halo CE introduced. ironic :lol:

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

[QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

Meu2k7

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

And by your own admission, Crysis (current messiah of PC shooters, it seems) borrows gameplay mechanics introduced by Halo.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

Meu2k7

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

Grive

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]Playing Halo is like playing Pong compared to Half-Life, and Half-Life 2. Nevermind CS. But yeah, Halo is a good for a console FPS._en1gma_

halo ce is extremely superior to half-life 1 + cs in every way...

the story is superior by a longshot. the atmosphere is superior. the actually gameplay is much more fun and innovative and has much more depth to it. the graphics are about leveled in comparison for their time.

im sorry, but HL1 is a cookie cutter FPS in comparison to Halo CE.

WTF? Are you serious? :|

*yawn*

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]Playing Halo is like playing Pong compared to Half-Life, and Half-Life 2. Nevermind CS. But yeah, Halo is a good for a console FPS._en1gma_

halo ce is extremely superior to half-life 1 + cs in every way...

the story is superior by a longshot. the atmosphere is superior. the actually gameplay is much more fun and innovative and has much more depth to it. the graphics are about leveled in comparison for their time.

im sorry, but HL1 is a cookie cutter FPS in comparison to Halo CE.

:D What? :D

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

Grive

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

And by your own admission, Crysis (current messiah of PC shooters, it seems) borrows gameplay mechanics introduced by Halo.

[QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

Meu2k7

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

1) Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

2) I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

3) Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

4) Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

5) Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

1) Indoor-outdoor corridors was never mentioned in the argument. So that made no contribution whatsoever.

2) Umm. No. :? Once again. Pointless//

3) From the sounds of it, you BARELY event touched playing Halo.

4) Actually, the recharging shields of Halo CE were really slow...ESPECIALLY on legendary. - Contributing to the fact that it sounds like you never played Halo. Halo 2 changed the system a lot by making it much more rapid but eliminating much of the health factor.

5) Highjacking and matchmaking are all I can think of. Halo 2 changed drastically from Halo CE and it's single player I admit is not even notable. But Halo 2 aside, all HL2 did that was new was the gravity gun, unless you can tell me otherwise.

and with Halo 3, there are the one-button items which COMPLETELY changes how the game is played. and probably more unannounced things that really dont matter.

[QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

MIYAMOTOnext007

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

And by your own admission, Crysis (current messiah of PC shooters, it seems) borrows gameplay mechanics introduced by Halo.

Totally different from a set recharging shield. Oh, and turn off the CAPS.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

_en1gma_

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

1) Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

2) I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

3) Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

4) Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

5) Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

1) Indoor-outdoor corridors was never mentioned in the argument. So that made no contribution whatsoever.

2) Umm. No. :? Once again. Pointless//

3) From the sounds of it, you BARELY event touched playing Halo.

4) Actually, the recharging shields of Halo CE were really slow...ESPECIALLY on legendary. - Contributing to the fact that it sounds like you never played Halo. Halo 2 changed the system a lot by making it much more rapid but eliminating much of the health factor.

5) Highjacking and matchmaking are all I can think of. Halo 2 changed drastically from Halo CE and it's single player I admit is not even notable. But Halo 2 aside, all HL2 did that was new was the gravity gun, unless you can tell me otherwise.

and with Halo 3, there are the one-button items which COMPLETELY changes how the game is played. and probably more unannounced things that really dont matter.

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

|May I ask though, if the health system in halo was "Revolutioanary" then why on earth have I not seen another FPS that uses it?

Crysis takes 2 things that Halo "created"

Left Arm grenade throwing (fast) in a similar way to Halo.

Health/Shield regen (Regeneration mode on Nano-suit heals your health slowly - lowers energy.

Energy while in armour mode is basically like Halo's shield...

But other than Crysis, no other FPS has used Halo's Health system ....

_en1gma_

Right, Gears didn't, Call of Duty 2 didn't, and neither did COD3. Resistance obviously did not take the system and evolved it (an improvement or not, it's up to debate). And of course, a tactical game like Rainbow 6 couldn't have even considered using it for a second...

Oh wait, they did. Sorry 'bout that.

And by your own admission, Crysis (current messiah of PC shooters, it seems) borrows gameplay mechanics introduced by Halo.

Totally different from a set recharging shield. Oh, and turn off the CAPS.

Halo's health system is similar to the one used when you play as Predator in Aliens vs Predator (1999).

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

MIYAMOTOnext007

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

1) Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

2) I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

3) Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

4) Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

5) Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

1) Indoor-outdoor corridors was never mentioned in the argument. So that made no contribution whatsoever.

2) Umm. No. :? Once again. Pointless//

3) From the sounds of it, you BARELY event touched playing Halo.

4) Actually, the recharging shields of Halo CE were really slow...ESPECIALLY on legendary. - Contributing to the fact that it sounds like you never played Halo. Halo 2 changed the system a lot by making it much more rapid but eliminating much of the health factor.

5) Highjacking and matchmaking are all I can think of. Halo 2 changed drastically from Halo CE and it's single player I admit is not even notable. But Halo 2 aside, all HL2 did that was new was the gravity gun, unless you can tell me otherwise.

and with Halo 3, there are the one-button items which COMPLETELY changes how the game is played. and probably more unannounced things that really dont matter.

so...half-life 2 was the first game with physics? no, but it made somewhat more use with it by using the gravity gun on statuc objects in the level (which i said).

and other games have good voice acting and make good use of it with a well-presented story.

having "professional" dialogue sounds more like an evolution

Why do people always talk about halo novels???The novels has noting to do with the gms(It does, but we should only the gm story noting else.Ok IMO HL2 and Halo2 are both great gm, but HL2 is much better.I will rate them below

1.Atmosphere=Tie they both accomplish what they were trying to do.HL2 makes u seel powerless at the begining of the gm and how freeman is just like a pon in this whole world.The rebels who help u fight with the huge city and amazing graphics.Halo2 feels like ur a supersoilder from the start.being able to do anything and take on every foe

2.weopons=HL2 wins in this department.Who the hell is messing with the gravity gun???Halo guns arfe pretty standard.

Graphics=HL2

story.tie

[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]Playing Halo is like playing Pong compared to Half-Life, and Half-Life 2. Nevermind CS. But yeah, Halo is a good for a console FPS.RawDeal_basic

halo ce is extremely superior to half-life 1 + cs in every way...

the story is superior by a longshot. the atmosphere is superior. the actually gameplay is much more fun and innovative and has much more depth to it. the graphics are about leveled in comparison for their time.

im sorry, but HL1 is a cookie cutter FPS in comparison to Halo CE.

:lol:

That seriously is sig. worthy :lol:

Should I put it as myu new quote of the month?

:lol: Definitely. I still can't stop laughing!

That's like saying the Street Fighter series and the King of Fighter series both suck, Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct pwns them all. :lol:

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]Playing Halo is like playing Pong compared to Half-Life, and Half-Life 2. Nevermind CS. But yeah, Halo is a good for a console FPS.Dencore

halo ce is extremely superior to half-life 1 + cs in every way...

the story is superior by a longshot. the atmosphere is superior. the actually gameplay is much more fun and innovative and has much more depth to it. the graphics are about leveled in comparison for their time.

im sorry, but HL1 is a cookie cutter FPS in comparison to Halo CE.

:lol:

That seriously is sig. worthy :lol:

Should I put it as myu new quote of the month?

:lol: Definitely. I still can't stop laughing!

That's like saying the Street Fighter series and the King of Fighter series both suck, Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct pwns them all. :lol:

You do realize you are contributing absolutely nothing to your own thread, right?

You do realize you are contributing absolutely nothing to your own thread, right?

_en1gma_

Exactly it's my thread so I can do what ever I want.

Wait hold on

That's like saying the Street Fighter series and the King of Fighter series both suck, Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct pwns them all. Dencore

Looks at en1gma's sig....:|.....:lol:

This is the Halo killer right here! :D

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

You do realize you are contributing absolutely nothing to your own thread, right?

Dencore

Exactly it's my thread so I can do what ever I want.

Wait hold on

That's like saying the Street Fighter series and the King of Fighter series both suck, Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct pwns them all. Dencore

Looks at en1gma's sig....:|.....:lol:

Quite the contrary. What about my sig? :? I found a cool looking subzero render and I wanted to use it for my second attempt at a sig.... I have a Ryu and Akuma render I'm going to try out tonight.

Pointless topics, much?

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

_en1gma_

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

1) Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

2) I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

3) Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

4) Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

5) Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

1) Indoor-outdoor corridors was never mentioned in the argument. So that made no contribution whatsoever.

2) Umm. No. :? Once again. Pointless//

3) From the sounds of it, you BARELY event touched playing Halo.

4) Actually, the recharging shields of Halo CE were really slow...ESPECIALLY on legendary. - Contributing to the fact that it sounds like you never played Halo. Halo 2 changed the system a lot by making it much more rapid but eliminating much of the health factor.

5) Highjacking and matchmaking are all I can think of. Halo 2 changed drastically from Halo CE and it's single player I admit is not even notable. But Halo 2 aside, all HL2 did that was new was the gravity gun, unless you can tell me otherwise.

and with Halo 3, there are the one-button items which COMPLETELY changes how the game is played. and probably more unannounced things that really dont matter.

so...half-life 2 was the first game with physics? no, but it made somewhat more use with it by using the gravity gun on statuc objects in the level (which i said).

and other games have good voice acting and make good use of it with a well-presented story.

having "professional" dialogue sounds more like an evolution

He never said HL was the first gm.He saidit changed the way gaming went towards physics.When HAlhlife 2 came out every gm started to try to copy it.Devs always talking about how there have good physics.OTHER THEN THE physics and the gravity gun his suit has made changes,They have a new weopon which makes u control those antlionscretures to attack the enemy,the pulse rifle,vehicleswtc..The gravity gun does multiple fubtions and is amzing.

Heh,I never played Counter-Strike on PC before.I have it on xbox,its pretty fun.When I got a 360 thought it wasnt backwards compatible so I sold it.

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

_en1gma_

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

1) Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

2) I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

3) Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

4) Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

5) Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

1) Indoor-outdoor corridors was never mentioned in the argument. So that made no contribution whatsoever.

2) Umm. No. :? Once again. Pointless//

3) From the sounds of it, you BARELY event touched playing Halo.

4) Actually, the recharging shields of Halo CE were really slow...ESPECIALLY on legendary. - Contributing to the fact that it sounds like you never played Halo. Halo 2 changed the system a lot by making it much more rapid but eliminating much of the health factor.

5) Highjacking and matchmaking are all I can think of. Halo 2 changed drastically from Halo CE and it's single player I admit is not even notable. But Halo 2 aside, all HL2 did that was new was the gravity gun, unless you can tell me otherwise.

and with Halo 3, there are the one-button items which COMPLETELY changes how the game is played. and probably more unannounced things that really dont matter.

so...half-life 2 was the first game with physics? no, but it made somewhat more use with it by using the gravity gun on statuc objects in the level (which i said).

and other games have good voice acting and make good use of it with a well-presented story.

having "professional" dialogue sounds more like an evolution

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Grive"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ironic like Halo took from Tribes & UT? Isnt that the same? .... difference is Halo hasnt improved on anything now since day 1, and never will.

jujutheking

open ended spaces and vehicles? Good. Then Half life was a ripoff of doom. Closed spaces and guns! If you have ever played Halo (I'm starting to doubt so) you'd see that halo did only took very basic concepts.

Wait what? CoD2?? Im not talking about simple health regeneration...

Besides, Half-Life is our Messiah, Half-Life 2 was the most enriching FPS of all time, I cant see it being any other way, nothing has ever challenged it , well of recent years, Systemshock back in the day though.

Meu2k7

Um, "simple health regeneration" is the health system of Halo 2, and for all practical purposes, Halo 1 (which did have an energy bar, but frankly was hardly a factor).

1) Doom? Oh come one, thats jsut grasping for straws, doom was the very basic of the FPS Genre, Half-life 1 was indoor & outdoor corridors just like Halo CE.

2) I bet your thinking when it says "KILLING SPREE" ect that Halo invented that even right? :I

3) Played Halo? I dont care what you believe, if I'd cared even the slightest id just take a quick picture of my Halo 1/2 cases right there to show , but I just dont.

Q2)

4) Halo's health regeneration is ridiculously fast though, I havnt seen a game do that since.

5) Ok lets move on from Halo 1 / Half Life 1. What about the sequals ... tell me, what did Halo 2 do ? ( I bet the only real anwser you can possible give is Online improvement)

1) Indoor-outdoor corridors was never mentioned in the argument. So that made no contribution whatsoever.

2) Umm. No. :? Once again. Pointless//

3) From the sounds of it, you BARELY event touched playing Halo.

4) Actually, the recharging shields of Halo CE were really slow...ESPECIALLY on legendary. - Contributing to the fact that it sounds like you never played Halo. Halo 2 changed the system a lot by making it much more rapid but eliminating much of the health factor.

5) Highjacking and matchmaking are all I can think of. Halo 2 changed drastically from Halo CE and it's single player I admit is not even notable. But Halo 2 aside, all HL2 did that was new was the gravity gun, unless you can tell me otherwise.

and with Halo 3, there are the one-button items which COMPLETELY changes how the game is played. and probably more unannounced things that really dont matter.

so...half-life 2 was the first game with physics? no, but it made somewhat more use with it by using the gravity gun on statuc objects in the level (which i said).

and other games have good voice acting and make good use of it with a well-presented story.

having "professional" dialogue sounds more like an evolution

He never said HL was the first gm.He saidit changed the way gaming went towards physics.When HAlhlife 2 came out every gm started to try to copy it.Devs always talking about how there have good physics.OTHER THEN THE physics and the gravity gun his suit has made changes,They have a new weopon which makes u control those antlionscretures to attack the enemy,the pulse rifle,vehicleswtc..The gravity gun does multiple fubtions and is amzing.

I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun.

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun._en1gma_

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

go read my post above

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I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun.jujutheking

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

go read my post above

I did and lost some brain cells in the process.

[QUOTE="jujutheking"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun._en1gma_

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

go read my post above

I did and lost some brain cells in the process.

I know i misspelled alot of things, but u get the point.(I was rushing)They changed alot of things.U also get to control rebel forces at a point in the gm.

that game is horrible

not even close.

[QUOTE="jujutheking"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun._en1gma_

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

go read my post above

I did and lost some brain cells in the process.

How the hell can you say HL2 wasn't wasn't revolutionary? Physics were just eye-candy until Half-Life 2 came along. Don't forget the incredibly realistic lip-synching and face posing that still hold up to be one of the best today. 16bitkevin

I know. I said both of those. :? And about the lip-synching. That is evolutionary, not revolutionary.

i agree with the physics. I said that.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="jujutheking"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun.MIYAMOTOnext007

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

go read my post above

I did and lost some brain cells in the process.

im sorry. i seriously could not understand where he was going with his post and i could barely even read it to be honest....

lol

[QUOTE="16bitkevin"]How the hell can you say HL2 wasn't wasn't revolutionary? Physics were just eye-candy until Half-Life 2 came along. Don't forget the incredibly realistic lip-synching and face posing that still hold up to be one of the best today. _en1gma_

I know. I said both of those. :? And about the lip-synching. That is evolutionary, not revolutionary.

i agree with the physics. I said that.

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="jujutheking"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I'm not saying HL2 was revolutionary at all. I was stating those because you said the only thing HL2 really did was bring in the gravity gun._en1gma_

the only other thing you said was professional voice acting, which Halo 2 has. you shouldve mentioned the lip-synching at least. because that is something hl2 did better than everything else. oh and this whole argument was supposed to be about revolutionary concepts - you just changed the topic a bit

go read my post above

I did and lost some brain cells in the process.

im sorry. i seriously could not understand where he was going with his post and i could barely even read it to be honest....

lol

Lawl. Yeah, mybe if someone had a PC that could run it.Sneaky_Gopher

Lawl. Yeah, mybe if someone had a PC that could run it.Sneaky_Gopher