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#151 FrozenLiquid
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Man, how convincing!

IgGy621985

Yeah, I know.

What r u going to do?

Perform a auto-aim skillz0r combo?

No sorry, can't anymore. It takes skill in Halo 3 now, just like in Halo CE.

You should see all the 12 year old whiners complain that they need auto aim back.

;)

Try harder next time.

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#152 IgGy621985
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Man, how convincing!

FrozenLiquid

Yeah, I know.

What r u going to do?

Perform a auto-aim skillz0r combo?

No sorry, can't anymore. It takes skill in Halo 3 now, just like in Halo CE.

You should see all the 12 year old whiners complain that they need auto aim back.

;)

Try harder next time.

That's fascinating. And I presume that you grown-up lads are really skillful in that game now. With your controllers. And jolly buttons.

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#153 ShmenonPie
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Well, that's true, but what about all the other Halo killers, such as Killzone, UT, Resistance, etc, etc... Halo isn't even that good, it's surpassed by soooooo many other shooters.
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#154 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]Unreal Tournament... how come no one ever mentions this game?!!!FrozenLiquid

Because there's like no single player?

True, but now UT3 has, theyle be 2 very close matched games...

@everyone.

This thread is still going? HALO doesnt need to be killed, its not the best of its genre from MANY peoples perspectives, Its the best available on its Platform, it does the job well, and will no doubt do so in Halo 3 despite no real push for innovation/ major upgrading.

Half-Life's , Halo's , XXXXX-Shock's, Unreal Tournement's, Battlefield's, Timesplitter's are all amazing games in thier own ways , which is best is subjective, and SALES certainly doesnt make Halo the best by any means.

Let this topic die.

Think to the future alittle, What will Halo 4 be like? another "minor upgrade"? look to new franchises that are new to your systems, Bioshock / UT3(those non-pc gamers) , Battlefield / Half-Life 2's Extras , and look at them with the same enthusiasm as Halo ... because it may well turn out you like them more, despite how thick your fangogglez are towards Halo.

And Vice Versa, I cannot get The Darkness, does that make me think my games will be automatically better? No.

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#155 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Man, how convincing!

IgGy621985

Yeah, I know.

What r u going to do?

Perform a auto-aim skillz0r combo?

No sorry, can't anymore. It takes skill in Halo 3 now, just like in Halo CE.

You should see all the 12 year old whiners complain that they need auto aim back.

;)

Try harder next time.

That's fascinating. And I presume that you grown-up lads are really skillful in that game now. With your controllers. And jolly buttons.

Ah, you must be one of those hermits that pick up the controller and automatically own each and every other Halo veteran in the game, am I right?

Oh, and since when did controls mean everything in a FPS?

Halo has a captivating story Unreal Tournament would kill for. It has an epic musical score Half Life vanilla envies. It has addicting gameplay that had tons of replay value AvP 1 & 2 would love to have, and it has a damn fine multiplayer that makes Far Cry cry in shame.

Look, I play PC shooters probably more than you do. Whilst you wait for Crysis to come out, and diss all the console users on these forums:I'm playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I'm trying out friends' HL2 mods (single player experimental). I'm blasting away on co-op Serious Sam II. I take on hell in Painkiller. I boot up CS 1.6 from time to time. It may be a week before I have the urge to play some Assault on UT2k4 again, and if you check my stats, you can tell I'm sick of BF 2 and 2142.

Don't talk to me like I don't know anything compared to you.

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#156 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]Unreal Tournament... how come no one ever mentions this game?!!!Meu2k7

Because there's like no single player?

True, but now UT3 has, theyle be 2 very close matched games...

@everyone.

This thread is still going? HALO doesnt need to be killed, its not the best of its genre from MANY peoples perspectives, Its the best available on its Platform, it does the job well, and will no doubt do so in Halo 3 despite no real push for innovation/ major upgrading.

Half-Life's , Halo's , XXXXX-Shock's, Unreal Tournement's, Battlefield's, Timesplitter's are all amazing games in thier own ways , which is best is subjective, and SALES certainly doesnt make Halo the best by any means.

Let this topic die.

Think to the future alittle, What will Halo 4 be like? another "minor upgrade"? look to new franchises that are new to your systems, Bioshock / UT3(those non-pc gamers) , Battlefield / Half-Life 2's Extras , and look at them with the same enthusiasm as Halo ... because it may well turn out you like them more, despite how thick your fangogglez are towards Halo.

And Vice Versa, I cannot get The Darkness, does that make me think my games will be automatically better? No.

You and I both know well Meu2k7 that UT3's single player might buckle under itself. I don't know much about it, I've seen the plot and everything, but it looks like there's going to be story segments in between UT-esque matches.

Personally, for single player, I think it's a battle between Halo, Bioshock and quite possibly Crysis.

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#157 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]Unreal Tournament... how come no one ever mentions this game?!!!FrozenLiquid

Because there's like no single player?

True, but now UT3 has, theyle be 2 very close matched games...

@everyone.

This thread is still going? HALO doesnt need to be killed, its not the best of its genre from MANY peoples perspectives, Its the best available on its Platform, it does the job well, and will no doubt do so in Halo 3 despite no real push for innovation/ major upgrading.

Half-Life's , Halo's , XXXXX-Shock's, Unreal Tournement's, Battlefield's, Timesplitter's are all amazing games in thier own ways , which is best is subjective, and SALES certainly doesnt make Halo the best by any means.

Let this topic die.

Think to the future alittle, What will Halo 4 be like? another "minor upgrade"? look to new franchises that are new to your systems, Bioshock / UT3(those non-pc gamers) , Battlefield / Half-Life 2's Extras , and look at them with the same enthusiasm as Halo ... because it may well turn out you like them more, despite how thick your fangogglez are towards Halo.

And Vice Versa, I cannot get The Darkness, does that make me think my games will be automatically better? No.

You and I both know well Meu2k7 that UT3's single player might buckle under itself. I don't know much about it, I've seen the plot and everything, but it looks like there's going to be story segments in between UT-esque matches.

Personally, for single player, I think it's a battle between Halo, Bioshock and quite possibly Crysis.

Yea, although I didnt mind UT2004's single player, as its meant to be play as Arena matchs, but I think the bulk of the UT3 campaign will be "UNREAL WARFARE" Mode matchs versus the invaders (Hence why Onslaught & Assault are merged - Objectives + Node Pushing) with scripted characters (Little hints in the PS3 Demonstration on gametrailers).

I doubt the story will be anywhere near as interesting as the 3 you have mentioned, but the single-player imo will be good fun despite that, after-all GeoW wasnt bad, and that studio is working on UT3.

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#158 malikmmm
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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]Playing Halo is like playing Pong compared to Half-Life, and Half-Life 2. Nevermind CS. But yeah, Halo is a good for a console FPS._en1gma_

halo ce is extremely superior to half-life 1 + cs in every way...

the story is superior by a longshot. the atmosphere is superior. the actually gameplay is much more fun and innovative and has much more depth to it. the graphics are about leveled in comparison for their time.

im sorry, but HL1 is a cookie cutter FPS in comparison to Halo CE.

The nOObest Comment of all time. QUOTE OF THE CENTURY

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#159 IgGy621985
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st be one of those hermits that pick up the controller and automatically own each and every other Halo veteran in the game, am I right?

Oh, and since when did controls mean everything in a FPS?

Halo has a captivating story Unreal Tournament would kill for. It has an epic musical score Half Life vanilla envies. It has addicting gameplay that had tons of replay value AvP 1 & 2 would love to have, and it has a damn fine multiplayer that makes Far Cry cry in shame.

Look, I play PC shooters probably more than you do. Whilst you wait for Crysis to come out, and diss all the console users on these forums:I'm playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. I'm trying out friends' HL2 mods (single player experimental). I'm blasting away on co-op Serious Sam II. I take on hell in Painkiller. I boot up CS 1.6 from time to time. It may be a week before I have the urge to play some Assault on UT2k4 again, and if you check my stats, you can tell I'm sick of BF 2 and 2142.

Don't talk to me like I don't know anything compared to you.

FrozenLiquid

Nah man, I'm one of those hermits who uses controllers for football games and such. For everything else, there's a keyboard and a mouse. Sorry, but playing an FPS with a controller is like beating and punching a dead horse. Yeah, believe or not, I played Halo: CE on the Xbox and, IMO it's one of the worst FPS games I've ever played. Not because its setting, story, weapons etc, but because its physics and, well... controlability which sucks exceptionally well.

Dunno man, maybe you do play more shooters than I am. I'm a big fan of Half Life franchise, I'm still playing CS 1.6, Wolf: ET, BF 2 (2142 sucks big time, which is my opinion). I'm finishing Stalker and actually like its multiplayer. It reminds me on CS.

Yeah, I even try out a ton of HL 1 and 2 mods (found five of them truly exceptional).

Unreal Tournament doesn't have a story because it's a strictly multiplayer oriented game. Okay, it has a SP, which is made only for the new players in order to train their skills on bots.

Far Cry multiplayer sucked. Big time. Yeah, I'm a hermit and I admit it.

Yeah, Crysis is coming, but that's just one of the games that I'm waiting. I'm actually affraid that there'll be like 5% of gamers who'll actually be able to run it, despite those jolly talk that you could run the game on 1.6 GHz system or whatever.

There are actually two games that I'm anticipating more than Crysis, and those are ET: Quake Wars and UT 3.

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I don't understand how everyone found Halo so Innovative. The weapons: WOW different weapons thats a first let's look at Unreal Tournament that has had those weapons before Halo. Or Even Ratchet and Clank (alothough different genre) had more innovative weapons before halo. The Online: It's ok yes...but Socom 3 tops it in about every way and that was out first. The Storyline: Yes the storyline is compelling it's good, but thats not that amazing believe it or not FF7 had a much better story line. The Gameplay: Yeah a FPS its fun but it's not the best game FPS ever....Think of more innovative things like Duke Nukem when it first came out. The Graphics: great for it's time but you never buy a game because of graphics. Here's my take on how the Halo Craze was born.....There were a lot of people who bought a Xbox and waited and waited for good game. They get one and they blow it out of proportion because they finally have somethign worth playing. Halo might just be one of the most overrated games ever made. Give me a Zelda, Half-Life, Final Fantasy or anyother half decent game before I'll take Halo.V2FLUXER

1. u do realize in order to say halo isnt that good u tried to compare it to a game that has done the best in each field u discuessed, the fact that u had to do that alone shows how great Halo is, since its superb in a broad range of catagories, not just one

2. How many total games of SOCOM 3 have been played online? and how many in HALO2....yea thatsssss what i thought

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#161 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]Unreal Tournament... how come no one ever mentions this game?!!!Meu2k7

Because there's like no single player?

True, but now UT3 has, theyle be 2 very close matched games...

@everyone.

This thread is still going? HALO doesnt need to be killed, its not the best of its genre from MANY peoples perspectives, Its the best available on its Platform, it does the job well, and will no doubt do so in Halo 3 despite no real push for innovation/ major upgrading.

Half-Life's , Halo's , XXXXX-Shock's, Unreal Tournement's, Battlefield's, Timesplitter's are all amazing games in thier own ways , which is best is subjective, and SALES certainly doesnt make Halo the best by any means.

Let this topic die.

Think to the future alittle, What will Halo 4 be like? another "minor upgrade"? look to new franchises that are new to your systems, Bioshock / UT3(those non-pc gamers) , Battlefield / Half-Life 2's Extras , and look at them with the same enthusiasm as Halo ... because it may well turn out you like them more, despite how thick your fangogglez are towards Halo.

And Vice Versa, I cannot get The Darkness, does that make me think my games will be automatically better? No.

You and I both know well Meu2k7 that UT3's single player might buckle under itself. I don't know much about it, I've seen the plot and everything, but it looks like there's going to be story segments in between UT-esque matches.

Personally, for single player, I think it's a battle between Halo, Bioshock and quite possibly Crysis.

Yea, although I didnt mind UT2004's single player, as its meant to be play as Arena matchs, but I think the bulk of the UT3 campaign will be "UNREAL WARFARE" Mode matchs versus the invaders (Hence why Onslaught & Assault are merged - Objectives + Node Pushing) with scripted characters (Little hints in the PS3 Demonstration on gametrailers).

I doubt the story will be anywhere near as interesting as the 3 you have mentioned, but the single-player imo will be good fun despite that, after-all GeoW wasnt bad, and that studio is working on UT3.

True. Their experience with Gears is bound to mean something.

The mode is now called Unreal Warfare, is it? Coz I would love Onslaught + Assalt to be merged. If they really merge it together (rather than just putting both types on the same map), it'd be an awesome mode type. Possibly the best one ever!

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[QUOTE="V2FLUXER"]I don't understand how everyone found Halo so Innovative. The weapons: WOW different weapons thats a first let's look at Unreal Tournament that has had those weapons before Halo. Or Even Ratchet and Clank (alothough different genre) had more innovative weapons before halo. The Online: It's ok yes...but Socom 3 tops it in about every way and that was out first. The Storyline: Yes the storyline is compelling it's good, but thats not that amazing believe it or not FF7 had a much better story line. The Gameplay: Yeah a FPS its fun but it's not the best game FPS ever....Think of more innovative things like Duke Nukem when it first came out. The Graphics: great for it's time but you never buy a game because of graphics. Here's my take on how the Halo Craze was born.....There were a lot of people who bought a Xbox and waited and waited for good game. They get one and they blow it out of proportion because they finally have somethign worth playing. Halo might just be one of the most overrated games ever made. Give me a Zelda, Half-Life, Final Fantasy or anyother half decent game before I'll take Halo.ApocalypseXIVV

1. u do realize in order to say halo isnt that good u tried to compare it to a game that has done the best in each field u discuessed, the fact that u had to do that alone shows how great Halo is, since its superb in a broad range of catagories, not just one

2. How many total games of SOCOM 3 have been played online? and how many in HALO2....yea thatsssss what i thought

I agree with this, but have a small counter-arguement.

Halo 1 did bring a few PC Shooter features together and make a great game, which in a sense I suppose you could say its very innovative, but as of now? Halo 2 / 3 ? What have they done? Other than give superior textures , different weapons and improved online (That still isnt all that great, because most matchs above 8 players are bad, coming from fans not me).

Its forumler is old, UT2004 kicked it outta the park in Vehicles/weapons/Multiplayer/maps/modes , but no single player( well no scripted single player).

Battlefield .... made battles actually feel like battles.

Half-Life 2 - dominateds events and sequences , you feel opressed as your character the moment you start playing, the world is very enriching, every little detail is there, there are many wonderous moments in the game, that cannot be taken away from Half-life 2 as yet, most realistice move-like experiance so far.

Halo 2/3 .... just has fame ... and a few optimisations, the wonders of marketing?

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Nah man, I'm one of those hermits who uses controllers for football games and such. For everything else, there's a keyboard and a mouse. Sorry, but playing an FPS with a controller is like beating and punching a dead horse. Yeah, believe and not, I played Halo: CE on the Xbox and, IMO it's one of the worst FPS games I've ever played. Not because its setting, story, weapons etc, but because its physics and, well... controlability which sucks exceptionally well.

Dunno man, maybe you do play more shooters than I am. I'm a big fan of Half Life franchise, I'm still playing CS 1.6, Wolf: ET, BF 2 (2142 sucks big time, which is my opinion). I'm finishing Stalker and actually like its multiplayer. It reminds me on CS.

Yeah, I even try out a ton of HL 1 and 2 mods (found five of them truly exceptional).

Unreal Tournament doesn't have a story because it's a strictly multiplayer oriented game. Okay, it has a SP, which is made only for the new players in order to train their skills on bots.

Far Cry multiplayer sucked. Big time. Yeah, I'm a hermit and I admit it.

Yeah, Crysis is coming, but that's just one of the games that I'm waiting. I'm actually affraid that there'll be like 5% of gamers who'll actually be able to run it, despite those jolly talk that you could run the game on 1.6 GHz system or whatever.

There are actually two games that I'm anticipating more than Crysis, and those are ET: Quake Wars and UT 3.

IgGy621985

I see.

When you mean physics, you mean the gravity and everything affected by the gravity right (Banshee and vehicle physics)? I think that was a design choice for game play and for plot, since they are on an artificial ringworld unlike Earth. Although it's weird since Earth had the same floaty gravity (then again, the aliens spoke English in Halo 2). What's ironic is that everyone calls Halo generic, when in fact every other freakin' sci fi game has "generic" written all over it, with the Earth-like gravity that no one seems to pay attention to :P.

It's great that in Halo 3 you can change the gravity ^^. You can get some whacky sh*t done in customs games, it's so fun. And the SWAT mode will be that much more realistic and satisfying.

Hey are you on the QW:ET beta? Meu2k7 is on it, and he says he's rather disappointed. I really hope whatever it is is fixable, because this has been on my hit list since forever.

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I agree with this, but have a small counter-arguement.

Halo 1 did bring a few PC Shooter features together and make a great game, which in a sense I suppose you could say its very innovative, but as of now? Halo 2 / 3 ? What have they done? Other than give superior textures , different weapons and improved online (That still isnt all that great, because most matchs above 8 players are bad, coming from fans not me).

Its forumler is old, UT2004 kicked it outta the park in Vehicles/weapons/Multiplayer/maps/modes , but no single player( well no scripted single player).

Battlefield .... made battles actually feel like battles.

Half-Life 2 - dominateds events and sequences , you feel opressed as your character the moment you start playing, the world is very enriching, every little detail is there, there are many wonderous moments in the game, that cannot be taken away from Half-life 2 as yet, most realistice move-like experiance so far.

Halo 2/3 .... just has fame ... and a few optimisations, the wonders of marketing?

Meu2k7

Yeah and with UT3's Assault/Onslaught hybrid... omg I can't wait!

Although this week's Bungie Weekly Update said that they experienced the one of the best multiplayer modes ever conceived, so I'm hyped for that too.

Halo 2 won MP GOTY in 2004, even beating out UT 2k4, and they picked it for more than just game play reasons. In all honesty, after playing even the Halo 3 Beta, going back to Halo 2.... ugh... Halo 2 is like a PoS game play wise and net-code wise (whatever you call it).

And I do pray that Halo 3's single player story is told as good as Half Life 2 was. They can't outright copy HL2 due to their design choice, but I'm sure they have learnt from Valve in some ways (they were playing thoroughly whilst everyone was playing Halo 2 then). The set up for Halo 3 is simply superb. Execution is what makes the set up seem extraordinary.

I mean, story-wise, Half Life 2 is formulaic. It really is. But you don't see it because the story is told so well that you just don't care.

Halo 2 had a pretty solid story. Execution was so poor it could make you vomit. I admit that I didn't like it. It's still worthy of a film incarnation, but yeah... story telling was poor. And if I make the Halo 2 movie, there's no going back to Earth. That kinda makes Halo 3's return to Earth feel a little bleh.

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#165 IgGy621985
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Hey are you on the QW:ET beta? Meu2k7 is on it, and he says he's rather disappointed. I really hope whatever it is is fixable, because this has been on my hit list since forever.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah, I played the beta (me and my friend share the same account) and I really liked it. It's just like Wolf: ET, arcady, fast and fun. Vehicles could be done better, but it's a beta, so I aint complaining.

If you liked Battlefield, you'll probably dislike Quake Wars, but if you liked Wolf: ET, you'll probably like Quake Wars also. You just need to play, alot, and you'll get hooked to it.

It's an extremely team-oriented game, so you really need to have your own team (or clan) in order to make the objective right.

EDIT

Sorry, I forgot to answer on your question regarding Halo...

When I mean "physics", I mean the controlability of your character (Masterchief, that is). First of all, you're controlling him with a controller, or joypad, or whatever it's called. I'm one of those gamers who played most of those "old" FPS games like Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, and the best of the multiplayer, like the first UT, Quake III Arena etc. And, well, I believe that I was used to that kind of controlability of your character. Fast and furious.

When I play with the controller, the gameplay setting is like I'm playing in a bullet-time, but I have no control over my character whatsoever lol, because I have to fight with those analog pads, quirky buttons etc. I mean, compare Halo multiplayer with Quake III Arena or any of the Unreal Tournament games and you really have to notice the one and only difference - speed. Halo is just... too darn slow.

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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]Playing Halo is like playing Pong compared to Half-Life, and Half-Life 2. Nevermind CS. But yeah, Halo is a good for a console FPS._en1gma_

halo ce is extremely superior to half-life 1 + cs in every way...

the story is superior by a longshot. the atmosphere is superior. the actually gameplay is much more fun and innovative and has much more depth to it. the graphics are about leveled in comparison for their time.

im sorry, but HL1 is a cookie cutter FPS in comparison to Halo CE.

did you you actually just call HL1 generic?

Half Life 1 wasnt just inovative....it was revolutionary....it completly changed the way FPS's were played....in no way in hell was Halo CE more inovative then HL1...everything else is opinionated....

Story - Bungie actually presented their story to the player. There is much more depth and levels to it. HL1 characters were presented as totally flat and the actual story is laughable.

Gameplay - HL1 revolutionized FPS? As did Halo CE with the integration of sandbox, non-anchored vehicles for both SP and MP...one button for all weapon melee....one button press for throwing actual integrated grenades....recharging shields....etc

I DID NOT say HL1 wasn't innovative or revolutionary, I just said I found Halo CE's MORESO

Halo CE was a completely new and refreshing feel for an FPS. and i played all the big ones prior to it.

Halo wasnt even close to the first FPS with vehiclas....

half Life...on the other hand changed the way All FPS would be played in the future...it was the first FPS ever to put scripted sequences in-game rather then into cutscenes.

BTW..Halo wasnt the first FPS with rechargable shields either...

It wasn't just having vehicles, it was how they were placed and used in a MUCH MORE sandbox fashion (sorry Tribes integrates them totally different)

And you ignored the rest. The fact is that Halo CE was a revolutionary FPS. Once again, I know HL1 was, I just found Halo CE moreso. There is no denying how influential Halo CE was on all FPS's that followed.

Halo CE was not a revolution, it was an innovation. It brought all things that had been done before and put them into one game. Sci fi space storyline? Done. Rechargable shields? Done. Vehicles? Done. Multiplayer? Done. It took them all and put them into a great game, but everything had been done befor, and it was only a "revolution" because it was the only good game for the original xbox.

Half Life on the other hand was a revolution WHEN IT CAME OUT. It changed the way FPS games were played, but today it's just an average, old FPS. But FPS today probably wouldn't be as great if it weren't for Half Life in some way.

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#167 Meu2k7
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Halo got a good new mode? Interesting, link?

ET QWs beta was dissapointing, not the gameplay, I *could* see it being a great game, but the beta was badly setup , 5 minute warmups where nobody would press READY, the net code is laggy, everything staggers/jumps, no Hir Rez Sounds/Textures (explains why the sound was bad).

Waiting for a Patch, the game could be great, but the beta was badly represented.

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#168 IgGy621985
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Half Life on the other hand was a revolution WHEN IT CAME OUT. It changed the way FPS games were played, but today it's just an average, old FPS. But FPS today probably wouldn't be as great if it weren't for Half Life in some way.

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Hold it right there mister. Half Life just an average, old FPS?

Half Life still offers probably the best setting, storyline and action you'll try to find in other FPS titles. Yeah, it may look like crap comparing it with todays FPS titles, but its gameplay beats the hell out of all those other FPSs anytime.

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#169 curp11
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Half Life was revolutionary when it was released, but it doesn't hold up when compared to newer shooters.acegunslinger

Not at all, Half Life will be remembered by all gamers out there. That is the one game that once revolutionized the FPS genre. Its being inducted in THE HALL OF FAME

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#170 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="acegunslinger"]Half Life was revolutionary when it was released, but it doesn't hold up when compared to newer shooters.curp11

Not at all, Half Life will be remembered by all gamers out there. That is the one game that once revolutionalized the FPS genre. Its being inducted in THE HALL OF FAME

Indeed, its earned enough value to be considered one of the best PS3/360/PC packages of this year (Orange Box) ... its doesnt even feel "last gen".

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#171 PDark_Prodigy
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I would have used BF 1942 that was out around the same time as Halo CE and I think the multiplayer kicked Halo CE A$$. I mean

64 players vs 16

35 vehicles vs 3 (if I remember correctly)

20 weapons vs. less than 10 weapons

However BF 1942 probably has one of the worst single players ever but the MP was I think years ahead of Halo CE's MP.

I just think its funny like all the console critics and editors thought 16 players and a few vehicles was a revolution for MP and for consoles it sort of was but PC gamers were doing so much more at the time.

I don't that is just my take I guess.

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#172 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="acegunslinger"]Half Life was revolutionary when it was released, but it doesn't hold up when compared to newer shooters.curp11

Not at all, Half Life will be remembered by all gamers out there. That is the one game that once revolutionized the FPS genre. Its being inducted in THE HALL OF FAME

Yeah, like the game or not you would be a fool to say that Half Life is nothing special.
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#173 solidgamer
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teh no story
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#174 MIYAMOTOnext007
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I would have used BF 1942 that was out around the same time as Halo CE and I think the multiplayer kicked Halo CE A$$. I mean

64 players vs 16

35 vehicles vs 3 (if I remember correctly)

20 weapons vs. less than 10 weapons

However BF 1942 probably has one of the worst single players ever but the MP was I think years ahead of Halo CE's MP.

I just think its funny like all the console critics and editors thought 16 players and a few vehicles was a revolution for MP and for consoles it sort of was but PC gamers were doing so much more at the time.

I don't that is just my take I guess.

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:lol: and Halo wasn't even online at that point!
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#175 killtactics
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I would have used BF 1942 that was out around the same time as Halo CE and I think the multiplayer kicked Halo CE A$$. I mean

64 players vs 16

35 vehicles vs 3 (if I remember correctly)

20 weapons vs. less than 10 weapons

However BF 1942 probably has one of the worst single players ever but the MP was I think years ahead of Halo CE's MP.

I just think its funny like all the console critics and editors thought 16 players and a few vehicles was a revolution for MP and for consoles it sort of was but PC gamers were doing so much more at the time.

I don't that is just my take I guess.

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higher numbers dont make a better game... The GS review of Halo did't compare halo to HL because of "number of weapons"....
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#176 genfuyung
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all the fanboys constantly talking about halo killers and such just prove how popular and great the game actually is. Mmmm this thread reeks of insecurity.