The Last of Us - 8.0 HERE IS WHY!

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#201 johny300
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Neogaf reaction to tom in the spoiler cast video lol. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=575205&page=204
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#202 Krelian-co
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is not just last of us, ive seen mcshea underscore various overhyped releases that get 10s everywhere just to either troll, get more traffic or get people mad. Thats the worst thing a reviewer could do, if it was just 1 game i could understand but seems like he really hates anything popular and just underscores it to go the other way.

"Anyone watch the Gamespot spoilercast show? 

The guy who reviewed the game is on there, and I honest to God feel embarrassed for Gamespot that they let this guy review the game.

In the first 10 minutes, the 2 other people are disagreeing with every single point he makes.

The guy is completely **** clueless. He thinks Joel in the beginning of the game might be selling drugs because he comes home late.

Jesus Christ."

is like he doesnt even get the games, just like when he gave skyward sword a 7.5 because his tiny brain couldn't figure how to play correctly with the wii mote.

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#203 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]And there are tears made from the finest butthurt that taste so delicious on this fine summer day.

Jag85

What's with you man? did you even watch the spoiler cast you act like our complaints on his cluelessness are without merit.

Your complaints are without merit. If he had given the game a 6 or 7, then I'd understand... but so much butt-hurt over a great score like 8? It's no wonder that people don't take gamers seriously...

lol.

Did you even play the game yet? If you would have you would understand this backlash from the community over that spoiler cast. This goes beyond a menial number and is something worth discussing.

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#204 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"]Lol, nobody trusts gamespot reviews after all the scandals. Truth is the Last of Us is the best game of this gen.

This.

What scandals.....??
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#205 tagyhag
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Remember when a game getting an 8 was considered a good thing before System Wars came along?nervmeister
It wasn't just system wars. It was a combination of younger kids starting to use the Internet for reviews and video game "reviewers" being STUPIDLY easy to please. It's why movie critics are called CRITICS and game reviewers overlook faults for the overall experience.
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#206 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Remember when a game getting an 8 was considered a good thing before System Wars came along?tagyhag
It wasn't just system wars. It was a combination of younger kids starting to use the Internet for reviews and video game "reviewers" being STUPIDLY easy to please. It's why movie critics are called CRITICS and game reviewers overlook faults for the overall experience.

From what movie is your gif photo..??
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#207 Rocker6
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Haha, people still butthurt over this... amazing! :lol:

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To the guy above, that GIF's from The Cabin in the Woods.

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#208 ZoomZoom2490
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all i can say is that if this game was exclusive on X360 it would of easily gotten a perfect score here on GS, and guess what? TOM would not be doing the review either.

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#209 Rocker6
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all i can say is that if this game was exclusive on X360 it would of easily gotten a perfect score here on GS, and guess what? TOM would not be doing the review either.

ZoomZoom2490

What ifs + tinfoil hat = :lol:

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#210 Minishdriveby
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Metacritic is the standard

LordQuorthon

Unless it's a Zelda game? 

 

 

I usually go by the Aggregate User Score when looking at metacritic (not reviews just the score).
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#211 Jag85
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Remember when a game getting an 8 was considered a good thing before System Wars came along?AtariKidX
It wasn't just system wars. It was a combination of younger kids starting to use the Internet for reviews and video game "reviewers" being STUPIDLY easy to please. It's why movie critics are called CRITICS and game reviewers overlook faults for the overall experience.

From what movie is your gif photo..??

The Cabin in the Woods
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#212 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="Jag85"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] It wasn't just system wars. It was a combination of younger kids starting to use the Internet for reviews and video game "reviewers" being STUPIDLY easy to please. It's why movie critics are called CRITICS and game reviewers overlook faults for the overall experience.

From what movie is your gif photo..??

The Cabin in the Woods

Thanks.
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#213 Ballroompirate
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Tom McShea is the worst reviewer on GS. BPoole96

QFTT

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#214 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Tom McShea is the worst reviewer on GS. Ballroompirate

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ditto.

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#215 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Tom McShea is the worst reviewer on GS. Ballroompirate

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Normally I'd disagree and say "whatever, it's his opinion", but then I watched the spoilercast :P.

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#216 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Tom McShea is the worst reviewer on GS. XVision84

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Normally I'd disagree and say "whatever, it's his opinion", but then I watched the spoilercast :P.

That spoilercast made him look really bad, actually made him look like an idiot.

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#217 Jag85
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So it seems gamers here only have an issue with the spoiler cast and not the actual review itself?

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#218 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

QFTT

Ballroompirate

Normally I'd disagree and say "whatever, it's his opinion", but then I watched the spoilercast :P.

That spoilercast made him look really bad, actually made him look like an idiot.

like he is, an idiot going against the general opinion for the sake of angering other people and/or get attention.

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#219 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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So it seems gamers here only have an issue with the spoiler cast and not the actual review itself?

Jag85

When watching the review itself, I found it puzzling why he gave a great game such a good score, but obviously it's his opinion so it's not up to me to decide. 

But the spoilercast made it clear why, he had no grasp on the game whatsoever.

Just from the opening scene, Tom said he disliked joel because he thought he was "up to no good"....

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#220 Jag85
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[QUOTE="Jag85"]

So it seems gamers here only have an issue with the spoiler cast and not the actual review itself?

XVision84

When watching the review itself, I found it puzzling why he gave a great game such a good score, but obviously it's his opinion so it's not up to me to decide. 

But the spoilercast made it clear why, he had no grasp on the game whatsoever.

Just from the opening scene, he disliked joel because he thought he was a drug dealer....


I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

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#221 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="johny300"]Neogaf reaction to tom in the spoiler cast video lol. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=575205&page=204

GS is become a joke site that no one will trust any more thanks to mcshea i said that many times here and also lems are the laughing stock every where because they still use this lame made up SW rules...just to ignore the real world
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#222 SchnabbleTab
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Lol, nobody trusts gamespot reviews after all the scandals. Truth is the Last of Us is the best game of this gen.Suppaman100

 

To you maybe but not to the world. There are way better games out there. It's not even the highest rated game of this gen and GTA V will destroy it anyway.

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#223 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]Lol, nobody trusts gamespot reviews after all the scandals. Truth is the Last of Us is the best game of this gen.SchnabbleTab

 

To you maybe but not to the world. There are way better games out there. It's not even the highest rated game of this gen and GTA V will destroy it anyway.

IMO no there isn't

and lol you think it easy to get 95% late this gen ???.....how in the world GTAV is going to destroy a game with 95% metascore ?!

at best GTAV will score around the same score or give or take 1 point....and for most part because it name not because it indeed as good

you comment make no sense what so ever

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#224 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]Lol, nobody trusts gamespot reviews after all the scandals. Truth is the Last of Us is the best game of this gen.SchnabbleTab

 

To you maybe but not to the world. There are way better games out there. It's not even the highest rated game of this gen and GTA V will destroy it anyway.

The Last of Us has an unusually high user review score. It seems that we, the gamers, really do think TLOU is better than GTA.

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#225 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="SchnabbleTab"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]Lol, nobody trusts gamespot reviews after all the scandals. Truth is the Last of Us is the best game of this gen.shadiezz2012

 

To you maybe but not to the world. There are way better games out there. It's not even the highest rated game of this gen and GTA V will destroy it anyway.

no there isn't and lol you think it easy to get 95% late this gen ???.....how in the world GTAV is going to destroy a game with 95% metascore ?! you comment make no sense what so ever

That's subjective. :P It's like me saying TLOU writing is 3rd grade material when compared to Planescape. 

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#226 shadiezz2012
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="SchnabbleTab"]

 

To you maybe but not to the world. There are way better games out there. It's not even the highest rated game of this gen and GTA V will destroy it anyway.

tagyhag

no there isn't and lol you think it easy to get 95% late this gen ???.....how in the world GTAV is going to destroy a game with 95% metascore ?! you comment make no sense what so ever

That's subjective. :P It's like me saying TLOU writing is 3rd grade material when compared to Planescape. 

he said his opinion and i said mine ....i just like to play with words ::P: although it's not easy to get those scores late this gen
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#227 tagyhag
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he said his opinion and i said mine ....i just like to play with words ::P: although it's not easy to get those scores late this gen shadiezz2012

I think it's situational. If it's an unknown game by an unknown developer it should have a harder time than if it's a known game or a known dev.

 

 

Still, f*ck Metacritic's weighted system, so idiotic.

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#228 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

So it seems gamers here only have an issue with the spoiler cast and not the actual review itself?

Jag85

When watching the review itself, I found it puzzling why he gave a great game such a good score, but obviously it's his opinion so it's not up to me to decide.

But the spoilercast made it clear why, he had no grasp on the game whatsoever.

Just from the opening scene, he disliked joel because he thought he was a drug dealer....


I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

If you've yet to play it, why the hell are you in this thread picking fights with those of us who have?

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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

So it seems gamers here only have an issue with the spoiler cast and not the actual review itself?

Jag85

When watching the review itself, I found it puzzling why he gave a great game such a good score, but obviously it's his opinion so it's not up to me to decide. 

But the spoilercast made it clear why, he had no grasp on the game whatsoever.

Just from the opening scene, he disliked joel because he thought he was a drug dealer....


I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

Like I said, he gives his full opinion on the game in the spoiler cast.

I'm not saying his opinion is wrong, I'm saying that he really misjudged the game based on what he got out of it.

If you saw the spoilercast, you'd know what I mean. The best I can say to explain it is like Tom went into The Last of Us already focusing on the negative rather than trying to enjoy the experience.

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#230 Pikminmaniac
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Metacritic is the standard

Davekeeh

Davekeeh says Halo, Mario Galaxy and Mario Galaxy 2 are all better than the Last of us?

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#231 Jag85
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[QUOTE="Jag85"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

When watching the review itself, I found it puzzling why he gave a great game such a good score, but obviously it's his opinion so it's not up to me to decide.

But the spoilercast made it clear why, he had no grasp on the game whatsoever.

Just from the opening scene, he disliked joel because he thought he was a drug dealer....

ReadingRainbow4


I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

If you've yet to play it, why the hell are you in this thread picking fights with those of us who have?

Because you keep failing to justify why 8 out of 10 is not a great score?
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#232 Jag85
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[QUOTE="Jag85"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

When watching the review itself, I found it puzzling why he gave a great game such a good score, but obviously it's his opinion so it's not up to me to decide. 

But the spoilercast made it clear why, he had no grasp on the game whatsoever.

Just from the opening scene, he disliked joel because he thought he was a drug dealer....

XVision84


I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

Like I said, he gives his full opinion on the game in the spoiler cast.

I'm not saying his opinion is wrong, I'm saying that he really misjudged the game based on what he got out of it.

If you saw the spoilercast, you'd know what I mean. The best I can say to explain it is like Tom went into The Last of Us already focusing on the negative rather than trying to enjoy the experience.

So was I right in assuming that the main issue fans have is what he was ranting about in the spoiler cast rather than the review?
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#233 AD216
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the rating system here is terrible more often than not

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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="Jag85"]
I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

Jag85

Like I said, he gives his full opinion on the game in the spoiler cast.

I'm not saying his opinion is wrong, I'm saying that he really misjudged the game based on what he got out of it.

If you saw the spoilercast, you'd know what I mean. The best I can say to explain it is like Tom went into The Last of Us already focusing on the negative rather than trying to enjoy the experience.

So was I right in assuming that the main issue fans have is what he was ranting about in the spoiler cast rather than the review?

Yep.

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#235 Crazyguy105
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Metacritic is the standard

Davekeeh

Not on System Wars.

 

Go back to Neogaf where you can point at Metacritic.

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#236 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="Jag85"]
I don't intend to watch the spoiler cast any time soon (wouldn't want spoilers for a game I've yet to play), but judging from the video review, I don't see what the big deal is. If his main issue seems to be with the problematic AI, then there's no reason why it should be given a free pass for something non-AAA games would not be so easily forgiven for.

And for the record, 8 out of 10 is not just a good score, but a great score. If any movie got that kind of score, it would be regarded as a great movie. Why should games be any different?

Jag85

If you've yet to play it, why the hell are you in this thread picking fights with those of us who have?

Because you keep failing to justify why 8 out of 10 is not a great score?

It was never about the score, its the reasoning behind it. Which is inadequate, and furthermore the justification he gives in the *spolier* cast (don't watch it if you haven't played the game, obviously) Is lol worthy.

pro-tip, if you want to debate in the future it's usually helpful to have atleast some knowledge of the topic at hand.

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You spelt Davekeeh wrong, didn't you?

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#238 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Metacritic is the standard

Crazyguy105

Not on System Wars.

 

Go back to Neogaf where you can point at Metacritic.

i'm just going to point to The Last of Us selling over a million copies in its first week alone and becoming the highest selling game in 2013