The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Is No Longer The Greatest Game of All Time

Had to happen eventually.

Not sure if I agree SMG is the more influential, innovative or best of its time title but its certaily fantastic overall.

I think people just say OOT is the best game ever to try and fit in and be cool, since most Zelda fans agree OOT is one of the worst games in the series.

It got amazing reviews because people were blown away by it's graphics, if they actually gave it a solid review, it would be a fair 8, the story is awful, gameplay is mediocre, framerate is terrible, it's full of bugs & glitches, controls were terrible, camera was terrible, it's LTTP in 3D when it comes down to it all, sound was awful (N64 limits might dismiss this), Hyrule was massive but empty, some of the temples were very poorly designed (Water Temeple, we all know this) can't skip dialogue & cut scenes, inventory was a massive pain.

Best game of all time for sure.

HaloinventedFPS

most Zelda fans agree OOT is one of the worst games in the series.

HaloinventedFPS

where is this coming from? :?

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

I think people just say OOT is the best game ever to try and fit in and be cool, since most Zelda fans agree OOT is one of the worst games in the series.

It got amazing reviews because people were blown away by it's graphics, if they actually gave it a solid review, it would be a fair 8, the story is awful, gameplay is mediocre, framerate is terrible, it's full of bugs & glitches, controls were terrible, camera was terrible, it's LTTP in 3D when it comes down to it all, sound was awful (N64 limits might dismiss this), Hyrule was massive but empty, some of the temples were very poorly designed (Water Temeple, we all know this) can't skip dialogue & cut scenes, inventory was a massive pain.

Best game of all time for sure.

Michael0134567

Majoras Mask is better in every way, that's what I think.LittleMac19

I think people just say OOT is the best game ever to try and fit in and be cool, since most Zelda fans agree OOT is one of the worst games in the series.

It got amazing reviews because people were blown away by it's graphics, if they actually gave it a solid review, it would be a fair 8, the story is awful, gameplay is mediocre, framerate is terrible, it's full of bugs & glitches, controls were terrible, camera was terrible, it's LTTP in 3D when it comes down to it all, sound was awful (N64 limits might dismiss this), Hyrule was massive but empty, some of the temples were very poorly designed (Water Temeple, we all know this) can't skip dialogue & cut scenes, inventory was a massive pain.

Best game of all time for sure.

HaloinventedFPS

Worst in the series is Majora's Mask. Boring and tedious.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I can't agree with that. Though a great game, SMG2 feels like an expansion pack most of the time and doesn't have the same punch as the original. I think calling it Super Mario Galaxy: The Lost Levels would have made more sense.

PannicAtack

First game had probably the more extravagent OST but I am of the opinion that the opinion of the OSTs is more about game like music vs adventure music. I figure the first SMG game is more about an adventure through space and it plays like that what with unlocking new parts of the observatory to launch you to new parts of space and slowly collecting all the Lumas and the power stars and such. Bringing life and light back to the darkness of the Panet Observatory. The music in the first game really does suit that grand adventure feeling. The second title is much more about progressing and moving across the world map and being challenged by old school traditional design and the music is really there to tell you its more of a game about the challenge and thrill of the hunt before you. Just me, I like the SMG2 OST = to the SMG1 OST but for different reasons. Stuff like Yoshi Star Galaxy has no place in SMG1 and stuff like the Observatory theme has no place in SMG2.

Wii games have lower standards. Can't compare games between platforms.Sushiglutton

since most Zelda fans agree OOT is one of the worst games in the series.

HaloinventedFPS

From my understanding, the ones that are generally regarded the lowest are the CD-i games, the DS games, and Zelda II. Skyward Sword is also fairly divisive. But Ocarina of Time? Yeah right.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It doesn't have the punch because it's a sequel. That said, it is a better game in every way in terms of actual design.ActicEdge

First game had probably the more extravagent OST but I am of the opinion that the opinion of the OSTs is more about game like music vs adventure music. I figure the first SMG game is more about an adventure through space and it plays like that what with unlocking new parts of the observatory to launch you to new parts of space and slowly collecting all the Lumas and the power stars and such. Bringing life and light back to the darkness of the Panet Observatory. The music in the first game really does suit that grand adventure feeling. The second title is much more about progressing and moving across the world map and being challenged by old school traditional design and the music is really there to tell you its more of a game about the challenge and thrill of the hunt before you. Just me, I like the SMG2 OST = to the SMG1 OST but for different reasons. Stuff like Yoshi Star Galaxy has no place in SMG1 and stuff like the Observatory theme has no place in SMG2.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Personally, I think neither Super Mario Galaxy nor Ocarina of Time are the greatest games of all time, so hey :Pcharizard1605

WHAT!

Okay it has to be a Ninty game though? Majora's mask maybe? That was my favourite Zelda

New Zelda games need to challenge Link to the Past in Dungeon Design. These games are getting more and more terrible at presenting a challenging, dense adventure filled dungeon. The density and challenge in ALttP's dungeons are the selling point of the game for me. Granted they succeed in other areas LttP doesn't but man I want an old school Zelda challenge in 3D where the whole puzzle of the dungeon is the fun of it.

I just feel like OoT should have stayed there for ever, even though it's not my personal favourite game by a long shot.

It's just gaming logic placing it there. Now logic has been altered.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]I did have one issue with SMG 2, personally: I thought some of the levels ended kind of abruptly. I also feel that the first game had better music.PannicAtack

First game had probably the more extravagent OST but I am of the opinion that the opinion of the OSTs is more about game like music vs adventure music. I figure the first SMG game is more about an adventure through space and it plays like that what with unlocking new parts of the observatory to launch you to new parts of space and slowly collecting all the Lumas and the power stars and such. Bringing life and light back to the darkness of the Panet Observatory. The music in the first game really does suit that grand adventure feeling. The second title is much more about progressing and moving across the world map and being challenged by old school traditional design and the music is really there to tell you its more of a game about the challenge and thrill of the hunt before you. Just me, I like the SMG2 OST = to the SMG1 OST but for different reasons. Stuff like Yoshi Star Galaxy has no place in SMG1 and stuff like the Observatory theme has no place in SMG2.

Samesy, for me tracks like Gusty Garden, Freeze Flame, Nemesis Koopa King, Melty Monten galaxy Good Egg Galaxy and the like were awesome. In 2 I loved Fluffy Bluffy Galaxy, The remix of Bowsers Lava Lair, Melty Monster, Slip Sand Galaxy, Cosmic Cove, Sweet Mystery, Sky Station Galaxy etc were all stand outs.

LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.mems_1224

LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.TrapJak

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.TrapJak

Great game but I personally dislike that I have to play a song everytime I wanna change the direction of the wind. It gets a bit annoying imo. Also, the sail should have been on another but so that I didn't need to phsically equip a sail to move. But the game is a ton of fun and the art direction and world building is fantastic.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.Michael0134567

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Truthcharizard1605

False.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] False.ActicEdge

False.

I think people just say OOT is the best game ever to try and fit in and be cool, since most Zelda fans agree OOT is one of the worst games in the series.

It got amazing reviews because people were blown away by it's graphics, if they actually gave it a solid review, it would be a fair 8, the story is awful, gameplay is mediocre, framerate is terrible, it's full of bugs & glitches, controls were terrible, camera was terrible, it's LTTP in 3D when it comes down to it all, sound was awful (N64 limits might dismiss this), Hyrule was massive but empty, some of the temples were very poorly designed (Water Temeple, we all know this) can't skip dialogue & cut scenes, inventory was a massive pain.

Best game of all time for sure.

HaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Absolute utter indisputable truth

charizard1605

False.

False, not even the best game on the SNES.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Truthcharizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

False.

ActicEdge

False, not even the best game on the SNES.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

False.

ActicEdge

False, not even the best game on the SNES.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.TrapJak

My personal favorite game of all time :p

LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.mems_1224

What's so good about it?

OoT is garbage. themajormayor

Ladies and gentlemen, the comedic style of themajormayor!

Give him a hand!

OoT will always be the best in my mind :P. Well I always keep in mind the possobility of future games, but for now it still is the best IMO.

I will still consider OoT to be the best game of all time.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.HaloinventedFPS

What's so good about it?

OoT is garbage. themajormayor

I haven't played smg yet but I'm assuming they're garbage too. Not as bad as OoT of course. Can't imagine anything worse than that. Except for Ass Creed Brohood of course. But even Mass Effect 1 is better

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]LTTP will always be the greatest game of all time. anyone who says otherwise is wrong.HaloinventedFPS

What's so good about it?

I haven't played smg yet but I'm assuming they're garbage too. Not as bad as OoT of course. Can't imagine anything worse than that. Except for Ass Creed Brohood of course. But even Mass Effect 1 is better

themajormayor

:lol:

Best comedy on Gamespot I'll tell you hwat!

:lol:

And if I gathered 78 people to call it the worst game ever made according to your logic it would be true.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] The only constant in this universe is that A Link to the Past is the greatest game of all time. The constancy of A Link to the Past's greatness actually puts a wrench in the Theory of Relativity, breaks it down, and has set science back by several hundred years. This is fact.charizard1605

False, not even the best game on the SNES.

False, Chrono Trigger > LttP
Super Metroid > LttP
Yoshi's Island >>> LttP

But being 4th best (if I ignore others) isn't terrible.

False, not even the best game on the SNES.ActicEdge

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] The only constant in this universe is that A Link to the Past is the greatest game of all time. The constancy of A Link to the Past's greatness actually puts a wrench in the Theory of Relativity, breaks it down, and has set science back by several hundred years. This is fact.mems_1224

False, not even the best game on the SNES.

Super Metroid > LttP

I haven't played smg yet but I'm assuming they're garbage too. Not as bad as OoT of course. Can't imagine anything worse than that. Except for Ass Creed Brohood of course. But even Mass Effect 1 is better

themajormayor

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

False, not even the best game on the SNES.

ActicEdge

Super Metroid > LttP

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

I haven't played smg yet but I'm assuming they're garbage too. Not as bad as OoT of course. Can't imagine anything worse than that. Except for Ass Creed Brohood of course. But even Mass Effect 1 is better

mems_1224