The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is the best Zelda game this generation

My favourite was TP go on say it sucked.

chocolate1325

PH was pretty much the most innovative zelda tittle made... this whole thread is just a proof of how dumb zelda fans are for just asking nintendo to give them more of the same.

lightleggy

[QUOTE="chocolate1325"]

My favourite was TP go on say it sucked.

lightleggy

I think that PH was okay but ST just plain sucked with the flute.

The only reason I liked Skyward sword was because it featured my favorite incarnation of Link. The gamrplay was really not that good, and it really did not live up to wind waker. Bring back wind waker link in a proper handheld zelda imo.

Mercenary848

Epic fail I meant ph not ss

1. Twilight Princess.
2. Phantom Hourglass.
3. Spirit Tracks.

Haven't played SS enough to say.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

PH was pretty much the most innovative zelda tittle made... this whole thread is just a proof of how dumb zelda fans are for just asking nintendo to give them more of the same.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

PH was pretty much the most innovative zelda tittle made... this whole thread is just a proof of how dumb zelda fans are for just asking nintendo to give them more of the same.

lightleggy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] The only think innovative about it was the controls. Past that the structure was the same ol' zelda. Hell Skyward Sword brings more new concepts to the table than that game.Shinobishyguy

it was not a dream...didnt you payed attention? link still had the hourglass and saw linebeck...

Phantom Hourglass had the best characters and character growth of the series. Linebeck was outstanding

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="chocolate1325"]

My favourite was TP go on say it sucked.

mexicangordo

Well excUUUUUUuuuuUUUUse ME, Princess, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you there :P

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] I'll say it: it sucked, hands down worst zelda made.MetroidPrimePwn

Well excUUUUUUuuuuUUUUse ME, Princess, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you there :P

Phantom Hourglass had the best characters and character growth of the series. Linebeck was outstanding

LaytonsCat

Pretty sad since PH was definitely not good. Didn't even bother getting Spirit Tracks.

Seriously, standars and different reviewers For example: I gave TP a lower score than PH or ST despite being a better overall experienceGiancar

I know it was different reviewers but still, it's perplexing

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Seriously, standars and different reviewers For example: I gave TP a lower score than PH or ST despite being a better overall experienceShinobishyguy

I know it was different reviewers but still, it's perplexing

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"]Seriously, standars and different reviewers For example: I gave TP a lower score than PH or ST despite being a better overall experienceGiancar

I know it was different reviewers but still, it's perplexing

The entire game gave off a "zelda for newbies" vibe

Atleast with skyward sword I found myself close to dying quite a few times

Wait, someone liked that game?

ZE CONTROLS!

Wait, someone liked that game?

ZE CONTROLS!

Am_Confucius

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

Renegade_Fury

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

Renegade_Fury

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

YoshiYogurt

Nope, I'm serious. The only things I like about WW are the opening scene and the closing credits music. Everything else about it sucked, and I've gone on so many detailed rants over the years too. PH and ST dungeons weren't as boring and empty, and didn't waste my time with annoying sailing mechanics. For handheld games, I liked them both.

I thought Phantom Hourglass was a great game with a lot of charm. With one big exception.

that *bleeping* water temple.

That place is what caused me to stop on the game. I hated! having to keep going back to it. Otherwise, i really enjoyed that game.

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

Renegade_Fury

That's such a bold statment.

Phantom Hourglass is my second least favourite Zelda game (Least being Zelda II).
Though Skyward sword, in my book is amazing, well deserved 10/10, Twilight Princess is still my favourite of all time.

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

madsnakehhh

That's such a bold statment.

Ain't it? McShea has nothing on me. :D

But Spirit Tracks is so much better.

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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

I will say PH and ST are at least way better than Wind Waker. Bite me, fanboys. :)

Renegade_Fury

Nope, I'm serious. The only things I like about WW are the opening scene and the closing credits music. Everything else about it sucked, and I've gone on so many detailed rants over the years too. PH and ST dungeons weren't as boring and empty, and didn't waste my time with annoying sailing mechanics. For handheld games, I liked them both.

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Sarcastic? There's no snowball's chance in hell that PH and ST are better than WW. WW has Superior gameplay, graphics, design, dungeons, dialogue, items,story

YoshiYogurt

Nope, I'm serious. The only things I like about WW are the opening scene and the closing credits music. Everything else about it sucked, and I've gone on so many detailed rants over the years too. PH and ST dungeons weren't as boring and empty, and didn't waste my time with annoying sailing mechanics. For handheld games, I liked them both.

I don't feel like going into length, but basically my problems were there were little dungeons, the dungeons themselves were barren, the whole world was pretty barren, it's annoying setting up the wind, the wand blows compared to the ocarina, the difficulty was several notches below OoT and MM, and the fetch quest, do I need to explain what's wrong with that? The game sucks beyond belief next to OoT and MM.

PH and ST, I felt like the dungeons had more things to do in them, the traveling method was significantly better for being streamlined, the boss battles were more interesting, the characters were better (linebeck), and overall, they're just more fun to play through. Difficulty wise, yes they're pretty easy as far as Zelda goes, but they are pretty much on par with Skyward Sword. A lot of the concepts from those games are actually seen in SS like the upgrades, the more pronounced ways of creating shortcuts, returning to an area, being chased by guardians, the whip, the tightrope walking, etc. I think the biggest gripe people have with these games are the main temples, but personally, I had no problem with them.

Why is Wind Waker being thrown into the mix that was on a last gen console the Gamecube.

I agree that WW wasn't as good as OoT or MM, but it was still an enjoyable game imo. i like basically everything in the game aside from the very lengthy sailing sequences. I actually ragequit the game when i had to sail around getting Triforce fragments or something like that, to be honest.

I agree that WW wasn't as good as OoT or MM, but it was still an enjoyable game imo. i like basically everything in the game aside from the very lengthy sailing sequences. I actually ragequit the game when i had to sail around getting Triforce fragments or something like that, to be honest.

princemarth23

If it were just the sailing it wouldn't be that bad, is the annoying tasks to get the charts that get on my nerves.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Nope, I'm serious. The only things I like about WW are the opening scene and the closing credits music. Everything else about it sucked, and I've gone on so many detailed rants over the years too. PH and ST dungeons weren't as boring and empty, and didn't waste my time with annoying sailing mechanics. For handheld games, I liked them both.

Renegade_Fury

I don't feel like going into length, but basically my problems were there were little dungeons, the dungeons themselves were barren, the whole world was pretty barren, it's annoying setting up the wind, the wand blows compared to the ocarina, the difficulty was several notches below OoT and MM, and the fetch quest, do I need to explain what's wrong with that? The game sucks beyond belief next to OoT and MM.

PH and ST, I felt like the dungeons had more things to do in them, the traveling method was significantly better for being streamlined, the boss battles were more interesting, the characters were better (linebeck), and overall, they're just more fun to play through. Difficulty wise, yes they're pretty easy as far as Zelda goes, but they are pretty much on par with Skyward Sword. A lot of the concepts from those games are actually seen in SS like the upgrades, the more pronounced ways of creating shortcuts, returning to an area, being chased by guardians, the whip, the tightrope walking, etc. I think the biggest gripe people have with these games are the main temples, but personally, I had no problem with them.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Nope, I'm serious. The only things I like about WW are the opening scene and the closing credits music. Everything else about it sucked, and I've gone on so many detailed rants over the years too. PH and ST dungeons weren't as boring and empty, and didn't waste my time with annoying sailing mechanics. For handheld games, I liked them both.

Renegade_Fury

I don't feel like going into length, but basically my problems were there were little dungeons, the dungeons themselves were barren, the whole world was pretty barren, it's annoying setting up the wind, the wand blows compared to the ocarina, the difficulty was several notches below OoT and MM, and the fetch quest, do I need to explain what's wrong with that? The game sucks beyond belief next to OoT and MM.

PH and ST, I felt like the dungeons had more things to do in them, the traveling method was significantly better for being streamlined, the boss battles were more interesting, the characters were better (linebeck), and overall, they're just more fun to play through. Difficulty wise, yes they're pretty easy as far as Zelda goes, but they are pretty much on par with Skyward Sword. A lot of the concepts from those games are actually seen in SS like the upgrades, the more pronounced ways of creating shortcuts, returning to an area, being chased by guardians, the whip, the tightrope walking, etc. I think the biggest gripe people have with these games are the main temples, but personally, I had no problem with them.

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] The way you explain WW, it sounds like you sailed around and ended up with a sword in ganon's head. I still cannot see how it "sucked." Everything about the handheld versions felt like a downgrade. Every Island looks the same in PH. There is no way the dungeons are better, they are inferior in design and BOTH games had you go through the same dungeon multiple times. The boat/train is awful to me on the ds. You cannot even interact with the water/track, you are stuck inside your vehicle and you just draw a line on the touch screen and sit back, boring.Spirit tracks felt like a chore to finish. Both were not bad games in any way though. Please explain what made WW suck.DarkLink77

I don't feel like going into length, but basically my problems were there were little dungeons, the dungeons themselves were barren, the whole world was pretty barren, it's annoying setting up the wind, the wand blows compared to the ocarina, the difficulty was several notches below OoT and MM, and the fetch quest, do I need to explain what's wrong with that? The game sucks beyond belief next to OoT and MM.

PH and ST, I felt like the dungeons had more things to do in them, the traveling method was significantly better for being streamlined, the boss battles were more interesting, the characters were better (linebeck), and overall, they're just more fun to play through. Difficulty wise, yes they're pretty easy as far as Zelda goes, but they are pretty much on par with Skyward Sword. A lot of the concepts from those games are actually seen in SS like the upgrades, the more pronounced ways of creating shortcuts, returning to an area, being chased by guardians, the whip, the tightrope walking, etc. I think the biggest gripe people have with these games are the main temples, but personally, I had no problem with them.

I can see your points about the bad parts of WW. The wind is annoying and the baton is not very fun. The fetch quest crap was annoying(insane rupees for trifroce piece maps really?). I still don't think the dungeons and land were barren at all. Lots of secret areas in the game to explore. I think the difficulty was harder and easier at different points to ocarina of time. The Ds games did have good concepts and linebeck was awesome in PH. I still think the line drawing is silly. Anyway, I see what you like about the Ds games now and what you don't like in WW.YoshiYogurt

You actually reminded me of another issue I had with WW: the amount of rupees you need to collect. I didn't have this problem with SS, so maybe I was doing something wrong in WW, but I distinctly remember going in and out of a door and cutting the same plants to load up on rupees. I get that they wanted to give them more of a treasure vibe since the game is kind of about swashbuckling pirates, but **** was that annoying stuff.

I know there were a bunch of secrets like that invincibility thing, but I had little motivation to get them since I thought they were more trouble than it was worth to attain them. WW is a good game, by itself, but I don't think it's a good Zelda game. Even now it still bugs me that it got GOTY here over KOTOR.

I really liked it... But I played it in Japanese so I thought the puzzles were hard lol cause I don't read that well.. But if you tapped the kanji it turns it into hirigana which is great for learning.

I'm baffled that people actually like PH and ST. They don't even have dungeons, those things aren't dungeons. They are appropriately colored rat mazes that you use an item to hit a switch with to proceed to the end. Minish cap had fun temple designs artistically, Oracle of seasons had more life in it than the ds games. I couldn't believe how boring they made the dungeons in the games.

Comparing them to TP and SS is preposterous. I like SS better than TP but TP smashes SS in presentation.

I'm baffled that people actually like PH and ST. They don't even have dungeons, those things aren't dungeons. They are appropriately colored rat mazes that you use an item to hit a switch with to proceed to the end. Minish cap had fun temple designs artistically, Oracle of seasons had more life in it than the ds games. I couldn't believe how boring they made the dungeons in the games.

Comparing them to TP and SS is preposterous. I like SS better than TP but TP smashes SS in presentation.

Jolt_counter119

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

I'm baffled that people actually like PH and ST. They don't even have dungeons, those things aren't dungeons. They are appropriately colored rat mazes that you use an item to hit a switch with to proceed to the end. Minish cap had fun temple designs artistically, Oracle of seasons had more life in it than the ds games. I couldn't believe how boring they made the dungeons in the games.

Comparing them to TP and SS is preposterous. I like SS better than TP but TP smashes SS in presentation.

Shinobishyguy

Yeah but every boss in TP looks better than SS bosses with an obvious exception of course. Every temple in TP looked cooler than SS and TP had more variety in environments. If it wasn't for how great in between dungeons section were in SS I'd say TP was better but in TP pretty much only the dungeons were fun and the rest was boring but I enjoyed everything in SS.