The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker U coming this fall.

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#201 nameless12345
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What is that really? A modded PC emulation of the original?

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Well, if you really want to debate emulation, then we could also say that it devaluates all HD "remakes" that Sony puts out...

Bottom line is - we don't debate emulation here...

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.loosingENDS

Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.

WW is a 3D game already, with cell shading

Trying to make it look rendered is a totally different approach and the new one looks nothing like the old one

Which is a good thing. If they'd retained the old graphical style for the remake ala Ocarina 3D, people would call it a lazy port. Now they're redoing the graphics, and people are still finding reason to complain. Seriously, come on now.
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When I saw the title, I was like: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol: lulz remake up-res'd :lol: :lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Then I opened the pictures and I was like:  That is absolutely fvcking GORGEOUS.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.

i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.

Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.

...the hell are you talking about? anyway, i do believe there isn't much that could be changed to improve wind waker's looks. crispy clean picture with crispy clean textures and better modelled models and assets are pretty much all that is needed. i guess the draw distance could be improved, more specifically the way it works (the islands would just pop as grey outlines on the horizon when you got close enough), but i don't think a simple post processing trick and bloom are "improvements".
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#205 Michael0134567
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Holy sh*t, that is beautiful :shock: :D.

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#206 Ross_the_Boss6
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This is why I'm buying a Wii U this year. Wind Waker is a great game that was underappreciated.

ShadowMoses900

You'll have to explain to me how it's under appreciated. Sure people cried and moaned about the art style before it released, but afterwards people raved about the game. I think it's generally considered one of the best Zelda game by many.

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#207 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.

Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.

...the hell are you talking about? anyway, i do believe there isn't much that could be changed to improve wind waker's looks. crispy clean picture with crispy clean textures and better modelled models and assets are pretty much all that is needed. i guess the draw distance could be improved, more specifically the way it works (the islands would just pop as grey outlines on the horizon when you got close enough), but i don't think a simple post processing trick and bloom are "improvements".

I'm saying that Wind Waker 'looks' 2D (I know it's not, but you know what I mean). This is the best way to make it 'look' 3D.
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#208 Zeviander
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You'll have to explain to me how it's under appreciated. Sure people cried and moaned about the art style before it released, but afterwards people raved about the game. I think it's generally considered one of the best Zelda game by many.Ross_the_Boss6
People complained about WW until TP came out. Then WW was the best game ever and TP was sh!t. Then SS came out and TP became the best game ever. It's just typical Zelda "fan" behavior.
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#209 mems_1224
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boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.
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#210 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.loosingENDS

Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.

WW is a 3D game already, with cell shading

Trying to make it look rendered is a totally different approach and the new one looks nothing like the old one

Yes it does. That's still WindFall Island, it still looks the same just much better.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

I can't take you seriously anymore.
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#212 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.
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Looks fvcking beautiful, SSAO seems to be working very well, And i think i just saw some Global Illumination for once.

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#214 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>
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#215 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This is why I'm buying a Wii U this year. Wind Waker is a great game that was underappreciated.

Ross_the_Boss6

You'll have to explain to me how it's under appreciated. Sure people cried and moaned about the art style before it released, but afterwards people raved about the game. I think it's generally considered one of the best Zelda game by many.

Well a lot of people (mainly on the internet so take it with a grain of salt) often rip on Wind Waker and most of the people that do clearly never gave the game an honest chance. You can tell by their comments because all they talk about are it's visauls and nothing else, and I thought the visuals were fine once you got used to them. The game had a great art direction.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.

...the hell are you talking about? anyway, i do believe there isn't much that could be changed to improve wind waker's looks. crispy clean picture with crispy clean textures and better modelled models and assets are pretty much all that is needed. i guess the draw distance could be improved, more specifically the way it works (the islands would just pop as grey outlines on the horizon when you got close enough), but i don't think a simple post processing trick and bloom are "improvements".

I'm saying that Wind Waker 'looks' 2D (I know it's not, but you know what I mean). This is the best way to make it 'look' 3D.

but part of what made wind waker so charming was this "2Dness" that you're talking about. they could improve on it, instead of changing. the new style is still good looking, but for different reasons than those that made wind waker so unique.
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#217 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

no, phantom hourglass is.
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

Majora's Mask? Worst Zelda ever? Get. Out. Now. [QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] but part of what made wind waker so charming was this "2Dness" that you're talking about. they could improve on it, instead of changing. the new style is still good looking, but for different reasons than those that made wind waker so unique.

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's my favorite game of all time, graphically speaking, and as far as I am concerned, it can never look old because of how much it looked like a beautifully animated cartoon. No, they could have just uprezzed the existing game for all I cared, and I would have been happier. Having said that, they didn't. They decided to make the game look more 3D. And what I am saying is, they did it perfectly. it's the perfect 3D incarnation of Wind Waker's 2D-ness.
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#219 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games. Michael0134567
Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

No. Not even close. I actually would say Link's Awakining on the GameBoy is the worst because it takes FOREVER to get the right amount of Rupees because they all look the same color (brown).

Also I thought the last Zelda they made for the Wii was a bit of a let down, and Twilight Princess while very good still had some annoyind dungeons. But I would say the worst is Spirit Tracks, if we are not counting the Zelda CD games that is (those were bad).

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#220 Rockman999
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I'm a bit disappointed in WWU.

It looks like they just took the game cube code, upscaled it and then flooded it with bloom.

I would have expected them to at least up the textures and polygons.

But it still looks beautiful.

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I wish people stopped saying that for ever console Nintendo released :roll:

What?

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

too much doing nothing in Wind Waker and none of the dungeons were memorable. MEH, its one of the worst Zelda games.
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

:| and you can't take ME seriously anymore??????
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] [QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] but part of what made wind waker so charming was this "2Dness" that you're talking about. they could improve on it, instead of changing. the new style is still good looking, but for different reasons than those that made wind waker so unique.

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's my favorite game of all time, graphically speaking, and as far as I am concerned, it can never look old because of how much it looked like a beautifully animated cartoon. No, they could have just uprezzed the existing game for all I cared, and I would have been happier. Having said that, they didn't. They decided to make the game look more 3D. And what I am saying is, they did it perfectly. it's the perfect 3D incarnation of Wind Waker's 2D-ness.

they should tone down on the bloom though lol, i can just imagine how the volcano dungeon will look like if they keep that level of bloom :P
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

too much doing nothing in Wind Waker and none of the dungeons were memorable. MEH, its one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker had great dungeons, and it was the last Zelda game to truly have that feeling of open world exploration that this series once used to be about.
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#225 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] [QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] but part of what made wind waker so charming was this "2Dness" that you're talking about. they could improve on it, instead of changing. the new style is still good looking, but for different reasons than those that made wind waker so unique.

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you. It's my favorite game of all time, graphically speaking, and as far as I am concerned, it can never look old because of how much it looked like a beautifully animated cartoon. No, they could have just uprezzed the existing game for all I cared, and I would have been happier. Having said that, they didn't. They decided to make the game look more 3D. And what I am saying is, they did it perfectly. it's the perfect 3D incarnation of Wind Waker's 2D-ness.

they should tone down on the bloom though lol, i can just imagine how the volcano dungeon will look like if they keep that level of bloom :P

Yeah lol :P They probably will, plenty of time before the game gets released, after all.
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]boooooooo I want a remake of Majora's Mask for 3ds. Not one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

Nah, its the two Wii Zelda fighting for that prize. TP is the worst IMO.
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#227 Snugenz
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Second system in a row Nintendo rehashes an old Zelda game with mildly improved graphics - they got nothin', man. Feel bad for you early adopters if you're under 15; anyone over 15 buying Nintendo products get what they deserve...

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Great experiences?.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

too much doing nothing in Wind Waker and none of the dungeons were memorable. MEH, its one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker had great dungeons, and it was the last Zelda game to truly have that feeling of open world exploration that this series once used to be about.

It wasn't a bad game but its one of the worst zelda games. it doesnt compete with the best in the franchise.
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#229 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.layton2012
Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

Nah, its the two Wii Zelda fighting for that prize. TP is the worst IMO.

I liked Twilight Princess, it had a good open environment to run around in and playing as Wolf Link was a nice touch. But some of the dungeons had bad designs I thought.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.

too much doing nothing in Wind Waker and none of the dungeons were memorable. MEH, its one of the worst Zelda games.

Wind Waker had great dungeons, and it was the last Zelda game to truly have that feeling of open world exploration that this series once used to be about.

i wouldn't say great dungeons, only one i really enjoyed was the first one, and tower of the gods to an extent. but dungeons are rarely the reason i enjoy a zelda game, and wind waker is the best on this sense of wonder and exploration. finding new islands with new secrets, sailing only to be caught in a whirlpool and fight a giant squid (or a tornado to fight a giant toad god), and the soundtrack only makes it better.
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#231 Michael0134567
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You guys actually believed me? :cool:

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I liked Twilight Princess, it had a good open environment to run around in and playing as Wolf Link was a nice touch. But some of the dungeons had bad designs I thought.

ShadowMoses900
lol, we're the opposite, apart from the wolf part which I also really liked. I thought the world to explore was just empty and sad, padding the game length with monotony. The dungeons however, were superb.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]too much doing nothing in Wind Waker and none of the dungeons were memorable. MEH, its one of the worst Zelda games. BrunoBRS
Wind Waker had great dungeons, and it was the last Zelda game to truly have that feeling of open world exploration that this series once used to be about.

i wouldn't say great dungeons, only one i really enjoyed was the first one, and tower of the gods to an extent. but dungeons are rarely the reason i enjoy a zelda game, and wind waker is the best on this sense of wonder and exploration. finding new islands with new secrets, sailing only to be caught in a whirlpool and fight a giant squid (or a tornado to fight a giant toad god), and the soundtrack only makes it better.

+1 I agree.

Wind Waker is legit in my top 10 favorite games period. Seriously considering getting a Wii-U now.

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They are releasing this game so Zelda Fans have something to play untill Zelda U comes out.
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ITT: proof that two zelda fans won't ever agree.
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ITT: proof that two zelda fans won't ever agree.BrunoBRS

I actually just agreed with you though.:P

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.ShadowMoses900

WW is a 3D game already, with cell shading

Trying to make it look rendered is a totally different approach and the new one looks nothing like the old one

Yes it does. That's still WindFall Island, it still looks the same just much better.

You mean the new horrible colors or the new terrible bloom ?

Better in what way exactly ? Destroying all appeal and cell shading art is not better, looks much much worst and ordinary

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#238 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

WW is a 3D game already, with cell shading

Trying to make it look rendered is a totally different approach and the new one looks nothing like the old one

loosingENDS

Yes it does. That's still WindFall Island, it still looks the same just much better.

You mean the new horrible colors or the new terrible bloom ?

Better in what way exactly ? Destroying all appeal and cell shading art is not better, looks much much worst and ordinary

LMAO if this was a game for the next Xbox you would be praising the hell out of it.

It looks a little bright, but other than that I like the visuals.

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#239 Seabas989
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ITT: proof that two zelda fans won't ever agree.BrunoBRS

That's truth.

I can't remember WW's dungeons. If it's not memorable then it's not great.

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#240 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

WW is a 3D game already, with cell shading

Trying to make it look rendered is a totally different approach and the new one looks nothing like the old one

loosingENDS

Yes it does. That's still WindFall Island, it still looks the same just much better.

You mean the new horrible colors or the new terrible bloom ?

Better in what way exactly ? Destroying all appeal and cell shading art is not better, looks much much worst and ordinary

Lol loosing.
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#241 Sphensen
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it's awesome to see a wind waker remake, but I for one would rather see a Link from the past remake

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#242 dobzilian
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I wonder if i can make OOT last me till this is released... I'm yet to finish a single Zelda game since the N64. pssstt... i've just got the lens of truth. saying that i need to play play TP and the other wii one.
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#243 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]ITT: proof that two zelda fans won't ever agree.Lionheart08

I actually just agreed with you though.:P

oh i'm sure we can find something to disagree on, although you ARE a shadow of the colossus fan, going by your sig :P
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#244 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Wind Waker? Worst Zelda game? Get. Out. Now.BrunoBRS
Majora's Mask is the worst Zelda... >.>

no, phantom hourglass is.

Finally someone gets it right.

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#245 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]ITT: proof that two zelda fans won't ever agree.BrunoBRS

I actually just agreed with you though.:P

oh i'm sure we can find something to disagree on, although you ARE a shadow of the colossus fan, going by your sig :P

It's only like the greatest game in existence.

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#246 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I actually just agreed with you though.:P

Lionheart08

oh i'm sure we can find something to disagree on, although you ARE a shadow of the colossus fan, going by your sig :P

It's only like the greatest game in existence.

atta boy.
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#247 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts

Ok after taking a good look at those screens i was wrong that there was any kind of Global Illumination, Shame.

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#248 DarkLink77
Member since 2004 • 32731 Posts

Wow, they completely f*cked the art style.

Way to go, Nintendo.

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#249 murat8
Member since 2006 • 10362 Posts
Nice, never played the original, might check out the WiiU verson.
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#250 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
Member since 2007 • 22399 Posts
Couldn't put a little effort into the water, eh Nintendo?