The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker U coming this fall.

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#151 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] You're really comparing Majoras Mask, a completely new zelda, to Windwaker U--an hd remake?Heirren

Majora was not so "new".

It used a lot of the same assets as Ocarina did.

There's even some similar locations and characters in it.

What was new was the plot, time-based gameplay and new locations/dungeons and characters/enemies/bosses.

Yes, it was a new game, but it was made out of the extra content for Ocarina they didn't manage to stuff in the cartridge.

With this WW remake, they could include the dungeons they had to cut out of the original game due to time constrains and enhance it in various other ways making it feel like basically a new game and worth buying for owners of the original game.

It can turn out much like REmake on the GC was which also felt like basically a new game compare to the original RE.

Yeah, no. Majoras Mask is nothing like Ocarina. It plays out completely different. Windwaker U is just a new coat of paint.

It plays different because of the masks and time-rewinding/slowing down.

But the core gameplay mechanics are the same.

WWU will be a remake but like I stated above it could feel "new" due to the various improvements and content.

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#152 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] It's the other way round, bruno. ST sucks, PH is awesome.

i honestly can't possibly see how someone would seriously believe that. there's accepting a different opinion, then there's accepting the possibility that someone thinks that PH is awesome and ST sucks.

I think that, as well. Phantom Hourglass still allowed for exploration. Spirit Tracks had a "look, don't touch" feel because of how restrictive the train element was.

well to me it was a matter of "sailing in PH is a pain and honestly pointless, dungeons are painfully easy, although enjoyable, and i felt like killing myself every time i went into the temple of the ocean kind", versus "riding a train is pretty damn fun and interactive, the game's difficulty is more on par with the rest of the series, and the spirit tower didn't force you through painful stealth and repeated levels every time you went back, instead they just gave you another dungeon to explore".
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#153 Gue1
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I got your HD Wind Waker right here:

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Timstuff

funny thing is it looks way better than the actual HD port. In the HD port Nintendo butchered the art-style.Textures look really ugly and character models look like plastic dolls; the only thing superior is the lighting.

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#154 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] spirit tracks is one of my favorites :x PH is the weakest in the series though.

It's the other way round, bruno. ST sucks, PH is awesome.

i honestly can't possibly see how someone would seriously believe that. there's accepting a different opinion, then there's accepting the possibility that someone thinks that PH is awesome and ST sucks.

That IS a different opinion you numpty :x
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#155 Seabas989
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I'm not sure I liked WW enough to rebuy it. However I'm not gonna lie that sailing in HD will be nice to look at.

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#156 Ghost120x
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Anyone saying bad things about spirit tracks will answer to me. So, stop it! :(
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#157 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]That is all I need. Please be Galaxy 3 and not Sh!tty 3D Land 2.SuperFlakeman

I don't think you understand the progression of the 3D Mario series.

It'll be neither. New system, new style.

Because with the progression of 3D Marios we would totally have two 3D Marios on one system. Galaxy is already a huge name with a concept that is rock solid, exactly what the Wii U needs. Maybe later in the generation we could see a different style of 3D Marios. I also hope they use a different concept, but they tried Super Mario 3D Land and that sucked.
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#158 nini200
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Anyone saying bad things about spirit tracks will answer to me. So, stop it! :(Ghost120x
Spirit Tracks SUCKS!!! :x

BrunoBRS can back me up on this right Bruno?
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#159 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Yeah, no. Majoras Mask is nothing like Ocarina. It plays out completely different. Windwaker U is just a new coat of paint. nameless12345

It plays different because of the masks and time-rewinding/slowing down.

But the core gameplay mechanics are the same.

WWU will be a remake but like I stated above it could feel "new" due to the various improvements and content.

Majora's Mask is a completely new game. Just because it reuses sprites and adapts the old game engine doesn't mean that it is a rehash (the game engine has some big changes too btw). It is extremely different than Ocarina in so many ways. The gameplay style is completely different. The atmosphere and tone are completely different. The challenge level is different. Hell, the dungeons, items, item placement, and environments are new. Not only that but Majora's Mask was a significant graphical upgrade in the textures, since it needed the texture expansion module.

WWU will likely be like Ocarina of Time 3DS. There will be many improvements and some new things, but there will be no mystery for anyone who has played it before. Much of the game will be going through the motions, and all the improvements will eventually feel superficial. Again, nothing like Majora's Mask, which was a new adventure with a whole new kind of experience.

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[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]Anyone saying bad things about spirit tracks will answer to me. So, stop it! :(nini200
Spirit Tracks SUCKS!!! :x

BrunoBRS can back me up on this right Bruno?

you and i aren't friends anymore :|
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#161 nini200
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[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="Ghost120x"]Anyone saying bad things about spirit tracks will answer to me. So, stop it! :(BrunoBRS
Spirit Tracks SUCKS!!! :x

BrunoBRS can back me up on this right Bruno?

you and i aren't friends anymore :|

:lol: :lol: Aww come on man, I was just teasin. I'll buy you a toy train. :cry:
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#162 bonesawisready5
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Second system in a row Nintendo rehashes an old Zelda game with mildly improved graphics - they got nothin', man. Feel bad for you early adopters if you're under 15; anyone over 15 buying Nintendo products get what they deserve...

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You understand that people can see that you're letting one single remake get in the way of you recognizing The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, Super Mario 3D, Mario Kart U, Super Smash Bros 4, X by Monolith, Yarn Yoshi, Game & Wario, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Shin Megami x Fire Emblem and all the other games they talked about during the presentation?

I understand if you don't like any of those games, they aren't everyone's cup of tea. But to say 'they got nothin' man' shows how unattentive you are. Even if its 'nothin' to you, most people would understand that it is certainly 'something' to a lot of people.

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#163 parkurtommo
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What is that really? A modded PC emulation of the original?

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#164 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]That is all I need. Please be Galaxy 3 and not Sh!tty 3D Land 2.Blabadon

I don't think you understand the progression of the 3D Mario series.

It'll be neither. New system, new style.

Because with the progression of 3D Marios we would totally have two 3D Marios on one system. Galaxy is already a huge name with a concept that is rock solid, exactly what the Wii U needs. Maybe later in the generation we could see a different style of 3D Marios. I also hope they use a different concept, but they tried Super Mario 3D Land and that sucked.

The game will be closer to Galaxy in terms of game design, than SM64 or Sunshine, in that it'll be a pure platformer / obstacle course based, not exploration/mission based.

But it'll probably revolve around a new "gimmick", not be as dependent on gravity as the Galaxy games.

I want to say "new setting" too in that it won't be taking place in space, but we all know it'll be some kind of hub or world map leading to fire / water / etc. levels. It won't have an overarching theme like Sunshine which was purely based on the idea of a tropical island, that's too narrow and limiting.

So yeah it'll basically be Galaxy 3, but with a new twist.

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#165 parkurtommo
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Wait wait WAIT

This is actually real?

:lol: all they did was add excessive bloom and lighting!! HAHAHAHA

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#166 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

I don't think you understand the progression of the 3D Mario series.

It'll be neither. New system, new style.

SuperFlakeman

Because with the progression of 3D Marios we would totally have two 3D Marios on one system. Galaxy is already a huge name with a concept that is rock solid, exactly what the Wii U needs. Maybe later in the generation we could see a different style of 3D Marios. I also hope they use a different concept, but they tried Super Mario 3D Land and that sucked.

The game will be closer to Galaxy in terms of game design, than SM64 or Sunshine, in that it'll be a pure platformer / obstacle course based, not exploration/mission based.

But it'll probably revolve around a new "gimmick", not be as dependent on gravity as the Galaxy games.

I want to say "new setting" too in that it won't be taking place in space, but we all know it'll be some kind of hub or world map leading to fire / water / etc. levels. It won't have an overarching theme like Sunshine which was purely based on the idea of a tropical island, that's too narrow and limiting.

So yeah it'll basically be Galaxy 3, but with a new twist.

And what that gimmick is what I'm excited to see.
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#167 xOMGITSJASONx
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Looks amazing and one of my favorite Gamecube games ever.

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#168 Ben-Buja
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Wait wait WAIT

This is actually real?

:lol: all they did was add excessive bloom and lighting!! HAHAHAHA

parkurtommo

Yeah I thought it was fake at first too, that someone took a Dolphin screen and added excessive bloom :P

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#169 ihsanqueen
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Is it just me that preferred the Gamecube style than WiiU style in the screenshot?

The WiiU version is somehow lacks the magic Gamecube version has, it looks generic in my opinion

And for the 59,99$ for old remake, Nintendo sure has gone low....

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#170 jeffster85
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definitely getting this. :D probably my favorite of the zelda games.
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#171 runbleduck
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Wow they completely butchered the artstyle. The original looks better as it actually looks like a cartoon. Maybe it was easier for Nintendo to shoehorn in the mario galaxy engine than getting the wind waker engine to work on the wii-u. Sad thing is Nintendo will use this inferior artstyle as an excuse for the inflated $59.99 price for what is essentially a even lazier port.
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#172 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Wait wait WAIT

This is actually real?

:lol: all they did was add excessive bloom and lighting!! HAHAHAHA

Ben-Buja

Yeah I thought it was fake at first too, that someone took a Dolphin screen and added excessive bloom :P

Yeah I hope they are far from launching this because in it's current state it just looks like a modded wind waker, hell the textures and models are EXACTLY the same. I'm also interesting in seeing how they'll add in new content.
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#173 bellsmye1
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No amount of awfully forced anti nintendo drivel can quell my excitement for this. Cannot wait
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#174 ShadowMoses900
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This is why I'm buying a Wii U this year. Wind Waker is a great game that was underappreciated.

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#175 halfmask
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Is it just me that preferred the Gamecube style than WiiU style in the screenshot?

The WiiU version is somehow lacks the magic Gamecube version has, it looks generic in my opinion

And for the 59,99$ for old remake, Nintendo sure has gone low....

ihsanqueen

Agreed! In my opinion, Wind Waker has one of the best styles out of any Zelda game, so I don't see what the dramatic visual change is all about. :C

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#176 DJ-Lafleur
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Would have preferred Majora's Mask HD, but this was still a great surprise.

Now hopefully they'll add some new content to the game.

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#177 nini200
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Would have preferred Majora's Mask HD, but this was still a great surprise.

Now hopefully they'll add some new content to the game.

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#178 bellsmye1
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They update it by just increasing the resolution, nothing else - "Typical lazy nintendo, the fans will buy anything" "Is this it? Could have put more effort in nintendo" They update the visuals substantially, add more content - "Why did the change the graphics? I prefer the old look :(" People need to get a grip. It looks absolutely fantastic, and if you didn't like the game first time around, chances are you wont like it now. I genuinely hate most videogame fans. Moaning and whining no matter what they're given
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#179 mariokart64fan
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lol i thought cdi had the worst zelda game ever i guess we now know who has bad taste around here and its the guy calling windwaker the worst zelda game ever
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#180 R4gn4r0k
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I hope it will be 1080p, seeing as how it's a gamecube game it shouldn't require that much of the WiiU hardware. 720p would be disappointing.

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#181 Gibsonsg527
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Hmm this is strange, I now have the sudden urge to to buy a Wii U.

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#182 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I hope it will be 1080p, seeing as how it's a gamecube game it shouldn't require that much of the WiiU hardware. 720p would be disappointing.

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Aren't they remaking it from the ground up?
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#183 R4gn4r0k
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Aren't they remaking it from the ground up?charizard1605

I still want it in 1080p

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#184 ShadowMoses900
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They update it by just increasing the resolution, nothing else - "Typical lazy nintendo, the fans will buy anything" "Is this it? Could have put more effort in nintendo" They update the visuals substantially, add more content - "Why did the change the graphics? I prefer the old look :(" People need to get a grip. It looks absolutely fantastic, and if you didn't like the game first time around, chances are you wont like it now. I genuinely hate most videogame fans. Moaning and whining no matter what they're givenbellsmye1

I don't get the hate for this either, it looks great and I will definitely be buying a Wii U for it. It does look a little too bright, but aside from that it looks amazing. And it's till early so they will fix the brightness a bit later.

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[QUOTE="bellsmye1"]They update it by just increasing the resolution, nothing else - "Typical lazy nintendo, the fans will buy anything" "Is this it? Could have put more effort in nintendo" They update the visuals substantially, add more content - "Why did the change the graphics? I prefer the old look :(" People need to get a grip. It looks absolutely fantastic, and if you didn't like the game first time around, chances are you wont like it now. I genuinely hate most videogame fans. Moaning and whining no matter what they're givenShadowMoses900

I don't get the hate for this either, it looks great and I will definitely be buying a Wii U for it. It does look a little too bright, but aside from that it looks amazing. And it's till early so they will fix the brightness a bit later.

It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.
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#186 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="bellsmye1"]They update it by just increasing the resolution, nothing else - "Typical lazy nintendo, the fans will buy anything" "Is this it? Could have put more effort in nintendo" They update the visuals substantially, add more content - "Why did the change the graphics? I prefer the old look :(" People need to get a grip. It looks absolutely fantastic, and if you didn't like the game first time around, chances are you wont like it now. I genuinely hate most videogame fans. Moaning and whining no matter what they're givencharizard1605

I don't get the hate for this either, it looks great and I will definitely be buying a Wii U for it. It does look a little too bright, but aside from that it looks amazing. And it's till early so they will fix the brightness a bit later.

It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.

Agreed. I really want to see what Dragon Roost Island looks like, that place had such awesome music too.

I still don't get the hate though, it's probably because the Wii U is now getting some great games and it's making the fanboys jelly.

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#187 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't get the hate for this either, it looks great and I will definitely be buying a Wii U for it. It does look a little too bright, but aside from that it looks amazing. And it's till early so they will fix the brightness a bit later.

ShadowMoses900

It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.

Agreed. I really want to see what Dragon Roost Island looks like, that place had such awesome music too.

I still don't get the hate though, it's probably because the Wii U is now getting some great games and it's making the fanboys jelly.

Wind Waker was always a divisive game. Plus, its artstyle is so iconic, I can understand if people are pissed that Nintendo is mixing it up a bit too much lol.
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#188 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.charizard1605

Agreed. I really want to see what Dragon Roost Island looks like, that place had such awesome music too.

I still don't get the hate though, it's probably because the Wii U is now getting some great games and it's making the fanboys jelly.

Wind Waker was always a divisive game. Plus, its artstyle is so iconic, I can understand if people are pissed that Nintendo is mixing it up a bit too much lol.

Wind Waker was under appreciated in my eyes. Most people that bashed it didn't even play it, they just looked at it and said "oh it looks like a cartoon, it must suck then" but those people missed out. The game was amazing and the visuals were actually pleasent once you got used to them (though I do prefer a mature Link).

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#189 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Never was a fan of Zelda, so I'll probably let this revision pass.
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#190 Cranler
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"]$59.99 and non-true HD at <= 720psuper600

Who the hell cares.

Remakes shouldnt be full price. Halo Anniversary was $40 at release.

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#191 Cranler
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Imagine if the first big game for Next Box and PS 4 was a remake of Morrowind and it was full price. Would be cool for some but a big letdown for most.

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#192 YoshiYogurt
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Windwaker is my second favorite game of all time behind aLttP. This is pointless AF, it was perfect on the Gamecube....getting it regardless.....
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#193 bonesawisready5
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Is it just me that preferred the Gamecube style than WiiU style in the screenshot?

The WiiU version is somehow lacks the magic Gamecube version has, it looks generic in my opinion

And for the 59,99$ for old remake, Nintendo sure has gone low....

ihsanqueen

Though I don't doubt it will be $60 and I'd gladly pay for it can you please give me a link to Nintendo confirming a $60 price? Or a retailer listing?

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[QUOTE="bellsmye1"]They update it by just increasing the resolution, nothing else - "Typical lazy nintendo, the fans will buy anything" "Is this it? Could have put more effort in nintendo" They update the visuals substantially, add more content - "Why did the change the graphics? I prefer the old look :(" People need to get a grip. It looks absolutely fantastic, and if you didn't like the game first time around, chances are you wont like it now. I genuinely hate most videogame fans. Moaning and whining no matter what they're givencharizard1605

I don't get the hate for this either, it looks great and I will definitely be buying a Wii U for it. It does look a little too bright, but aside from that it looks amazing. And it's till early so they will fix the brightness a bit later.

It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.

i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.
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#195 loosingENDS
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A remake that looks mediocre of an old game we have played 200 hours is a megaton ?

Then what would you call an actual new Zelda ?

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#196 bonesawisready5
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[QUOTE="runbleduck"]$59.99 and non-true HD at <= 720pCranler

Who the hell cares.

Remakes shouldnt be full price. Halo Anniversary was $40 at release.

Says you.

We also don't have a price on this one yet guys. It isn't priced yet, not even showing up at retailers as of today.

Even so, Anniversary didn't have its own multiplayer mode so you were being charged $40 for story mode. It used Reach's multiplayer with Anniversary maps re-done. So they took an existing engine and slapped in old maps. I even rented Annivesary the day it came out, took the Reach Anniversar map pack code from the rental, downloaded the map pack and returned Anniversary and simply played all those maps in Reach. A major reason why Annivesary was $40 was because it was piggy-backing off another recently released game

Wind Waker HD at least created a new engine, and redid resolutions, textures and other assets for the entire 30-50 hour single-player story mode and some new content is being promised.

Just pointing those out.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't get the hate for this either, it looks great and I will definitely be buying a Wii U for it. It does look a little too bright, but aside from that it looks amazing. And it's till early so they will fix the brightness a bit later.

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It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.

i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.

Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.
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#198 PhazonBlazer
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They really couldn't have done anything else with the graphic. If they just upscaled it to 1080p, people would claim that it's a lazy port.

I'm not extremely fond of the new art design but it looks pretty good.

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Still have my GC and Wind Waker copy. Graphics are pretty but they already were.

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#200 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] It looks brilliant. The perfect realization of the classic Wind Waker artstyle in HD.charizard1605
i wouldn't say perfect realization, it looks a bit too bloomy and washed out+overcontrasted, i kind of miss the more pastel palette. it's not bad, just different.

Really? Because (viewing The Wind Waker's graphics as '2D') I cannot imagine a better way to realize them in 3D while still retaining the charm.

WW is a 3D game already, with cell shading

Trying to make it look rendered is a totally different approach and the new one looks nothing like the old one