super mario. how this italian plumber became so popular is beyond me. great games. bad character. also sonic sega's attempt at a mascot with attitude.... in fact any mascot character they just seem so 80's
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super mario. how this italian plumber became so popular is beyond me. great games. bad character. also sonic sega's attempt at a mascot with attitude.... in fact any mascot character they just seem so 80's
Master Chief
-The epitome of cliched character design in the West.
Gordon Freeman
-As a story device? He's good at it. As a character? Nope.
Kratos
-I don't know why he is synonymous with the word badass, because he whines so much that it puts a creaky door to shame.
Nathan Drake
-If you open your mouth as much as this guy, something entertaining better be coming out of it.
Sephiroth
-Angst, angst, angst, I want my mummy, angst, angst, angst.
Cloud Strife
-Far too angsty for my liking and too much of a dick for me to actually like him.
Link
-See Gordon Freeman.
Marcus Frenix
-GRRRRRRRR GRUNT GRUNT I'M A BIG CLICHED SOLDIER MAN THAT IS VOID OF ANY EMOTIONS BEYOND RAGE AND WEARS THE EQUIVIALENT OF A M1 ABRAMS TANK ON MY BACK GRRRRRRR GRRRR.
How is marcus a space marine?Marcus Frenix
-GRRRRRRRR GRUNT GRUNT I'M A BIG CLICHED SPACE MARINE GRRRRRRRRR.
Vesica_Prime
Gordon Freeman is one of the worst characters ever, a Battlefield tank has more charisma and personality -and due is able to turn the turret, is a bit more expressive-.
On the other hand I liked Sephirot: He wears cool clothes, hands a long, elegant thin katana, is powerful and puts the FF VII heroes against the ropes, including killing one of the main characters. He was able to make have feelings along the game, and scenes as the impaled Midgard Zolom did make me open my mouth in a Whoa! of awesomeness...
How is marcus a space marine?[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]
Marcus Frenix
-GRRRRRRRR GRUNT GRUNT I'M A BIG CLICHED SPACE MARINE GRRRRRRRRR.
TheShadowLord07
He's on a extraterrestrial planet fighting off aliens who want to destroy humanity in a futuristic setting. You know just like the Master Chief and Doomguy with some parts cut and pasted over.
How is marcus a space marine?[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]
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Marcus Frenix
-GRRRRRRRR GRUNT GRUNT I'M A BIG CLICHED SPACE MARINE GRRRRRRRRR.
Vesica_Prime
He's on a extraterrestrial planet fighting off aliens who want to destroy humanity in a futuristic setting. You know just like the Master Chief and Doomguy with some parts cut and pasted over.
maybe so. I do however disagree about the alien point.if anyone is the alien in the game is the humans. not the locust.
Hmm. I think people may be confusing a rated video game character with their rated game as a whole. For example, no body really rates Master Cheif highly, but a lot of people rate Halo highly, and thus, you mix that up, and think Master Cheif is overrated when he wasn't even really highly rated in the first place.
This goes for many other video game characters.
Just a theory.
Kratos by far. He's a whining, screaming crybaby that throws bloody tantrums when he doesn't get his way. He appeals to every red-blooded, testosterone-pumped 13-year-old, and also David Jaffe, who has that mindset.princeofshapeirPretty much this. That man-child whines and complains non-stop, and contemplates suicide. Sorry, these factors, along with others, COMPLETELY negate anything awesome he ever does and forever prevents him from being a proper, bonafide badass.
Gordon Freeman isn't supposed to have a personality, he's supposed to be the avatar for the player. Master Chief, I would agree with. Kratos, badass but can be extremely shallow. That said, I'll throw in another name. Marcus Fenix of Gears of War and Morrigan of Dragon Age Origins.hiphops_savior
:o She is mega awesome ! :P
I would say Gordon Freeman and Link.... but they are supposed to be avatars and links (lol) from player to game, not to be awesome like Morrigan.
Niko Bellic, he is awful, the entire time i wanted to kill him. I kept speeding to make him go out the windshield. I agree with Masterchief and Gordon freeman, those are not even characters, they hardly have an opinion or show their faces.dakan45
I have to strongly disagree with this. Niko is actually a very well developed character. He is given a compelling context for his motivations, so we always understand his choices and actions. Family is his underlying motive for what drives him, and everything he does is based on what what he thinks is best for him and his cousin. He is ultimately relateable to us, not as a common criminal, but simply as a man trying to do what he thinks is best to make his place in the world he moved to from his old life. Even where his cousin drives him crazy, he'll still go to no ends to protect him, and that's a family value we can all empathize with.
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]
Marcus Frenix
-GRRRRRRRR GRUNT GRUNT I'M A BIG CLICHED SPACE MARINE GRRRRRRRRR.
How is marcus a space marine?He's on a extraterrestrial planet fighting off aliens who want to destroy humanity in a futuristic setting. You know just like the Master Chief and Doomguy with some parts cut and pasted over.
yeah you haven't really played the game have you. both he and the creatures he fights are on the planet that they originally came from. in otherwords, they are not aliens, and he has never been to space. also, its not even futuristic, its just not Earth.Dante from Devil May Cry is the character I despise the most.
However Kratos, Master Chief, Cloud, Marcus, Fenix, Bayonetta are all up there in the mix
[QUOTE="dakan45"]Niko Bellic, he is awful, the entire time i wanted to kill him. I kept speeding to make him go out the windshield. I agree with Masterchief and Gordon freeman, those are not even characters, they hardly have an opinion or show their faces.AdobeArtist
I have to strongly disagree with this. Niko is actually a very well developed character. He is given a compelling context for his motivations, so we always understand his choices and actions. Family is his underlying motive for what drives him, and everything he does is based on what what he thinks is best for him and his cousin. He is ultimately relateable to us, not as a common criminal, but simply as a man trying to do what he thinks is best to make his place in the world he moved to from his old life. Even where his cousin drives him crazy, he'll still go to no ends to protect him, and that's a family value we can all empathize with.
Nice.Kratos by far. He's a whining, screaming crybaby that throws bloody tantrums when he doesn't get his way. He appeals to every red-blooded, testosterone-pumped 13-year-old, and also David Jaffe, who has that mindset.princeofshapeirlol
[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"] How is marcus a space marine?
antifanboyftw
He's on a extraterrestrial planet fighting off aliens who want to destroy humanity in a futuristic setting. You know just like the Master Chief and Doomguy with some parts cut and pasted over.
yeah you haven't really played the game have you. both he and the creatures he fights are on the planet that they originally came from. in otherwords, they are not aliens, and he has never been to space. also, its not even futuristic, its just not Earth.Also an acceptable response to Vesica_Prime's post.
That's like saying Tom Cruise plays a space marine in "War of the Worlds."
Gordon Freeman isn't supposed to have a personality, he's supposed to be the avatar for the player. Master Chief, I would agree with. Kratos, badass but can be extremely shallow. That said, I'll throw in another name. Marcus Fenix of Gears of War and Morrigan of Dragon Age Origins.hiphops_savior
Which actually supports TC's position that Freeman is an overrated character, by the virtue that he isn't a character at all. No matter how you spin it, "no personality" is a disqualifier for a great character.
But of course you agree that MC belongs on the list while Freeman doesn't, even when they're the same type of silent protangonist (Chief does talk from time to time, but too rarely and too dominished to actually matter) and avatar for the player. Just shows a blatant double standard. You see this difference in character qualifier between them not from any objective criteria, but because it's what you want to see.
Also, Morrigan is actually another well developed character, but how much you get to see this all depends on how much you interact with her. She's defined by her history of how she was raised, and how you choose to interact with her can not only reveal new layers of personality, but even begin to develop new traits in her as she warms up to you (assuming that's the direction you take with her).
lets not kid ourselves most video game characters are garbage. the most offensively bad ones that have gained a following are definitely kratos and sonic.
kratos is like... a hilarious joke. i mean yeah hes going to seem badass but if you substituted his in-game model with a rendering of david spade then david spade would seem badass. nothing is less convincing than having a game basically scream at you 'OH MY GOD THIS GUY IS SO HARD' all the time. it just comes across as super forced.
sonic, well, we all know the story here. hes just straight up garbage. to boot he has one of the most annoying fanbases in video games, which is saying something.
i dont see why people say marcus fenix is overrated. nobody seems to like him.
Sonic the Hedgehog. He was okay when he didn't talk and could go on an adventure without sidekicks. Now that he's engaging in interspecies romance and transforming into storybook characters and occasionally having bouts of lycanthropy, not so much.
Master Chief. Generic soldier in a suit of powered armor.
Link. Yes, I know I'll be burned at the stake for this, but an effeminite elf in green who says nothing and does the same thing in every game fails to be a character. Mario at least can make fun of himself in the RPGs, Link is far too serious for what he is.
Marcus Fenix. What does this fellow eat for breakfast? Whatever it is, remind me not to have any. His face seem to have a label marked "IDOLIZE ME, MIDDLE SCHOOL BOYS!" pasted somewhere at eye-level. Poster child for a shallow, over-rated series invented to make squeaky-voiced fourteen-year-olds feel grown up while playing their M-rated big kid games.
Kratos. And some people defend his series as art. Really? And this is why people mock us. Personally, I'd rather not have a childishly-tempered overwrought Spartan with anger-management issues as the poster child for my favorite entertainment media.
The Boss. Metal Gear Solid 3 is my favorite game of all time, but for the love of all that is digital, please stop making The Boss out to be the greatest female game character of all time just because she has boobs and can beat up guys and dies dramatically in a field of flowers. She's cool, I'll give her that, and I'll even admit to one of my eyes getting a bit blurry during the ending salute, but if one actually bothers to listen to her heart-felt monologue, it becomes rather apparent that she's gone a bit mad. True patriot indeed, whilst she plotted to use stolen money to revitalize the same organization that gave us Revolver Ocelot. I don't hate her, I just think people have placed her on rather a pedistal.
Master Chief easily
just in terms of abilities and personality and etc. he's nothing special
he's fun to play as, but totally inter-changeable and generic
The thing about those characters is while they may be bland, they can still tear out your spine and choke you to death with it. :P
Theres a shock. Another "overrated" something thread on System Wars where anything and everything across the gamut of popularity is slammed as "overrated".
I'll chime in then. Nathan Drake. Just because.
Well, the TC is flat out wrong about the FFVII characters on the list, but that doesn't surprise me.He lacks a motive, a huge plot hole in FFVII. Why does he want to become a god and devestate the world?
Oh, the irony.
hakanakumono
Kratos is badass. Who needs substance when you have teh badassnessracing1750
This Guy is full of Substance as well as Personality.Kratos only wishes he could be half the badass that Kain is.
He lacks a motive, a huge plot hole in FFVII. Why does he want to become a god and devestate the world?
Oh, the irony.
Well, the TC is flat out wrong about the FFVII characters on the list, but that doesn't surprise me. Then what is Sephiroth's motive? Why does he want to crash meteor into Gaia to take the life stream to be come a god? Never explained, never mentioned. He is then just another bad guy to put down. He is an incomplete villian. I should of added that his boss battle is the exact same as the boss battle against Kefka...the same angelic form, the same attacks, etc. But silly gamers think he is the top boss battle, even though its been done before.Please Log In to post.
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