The nVidia 9 series cometh -- further seperation between PC and Consoles...

Wow, pc is superior, thanks for the update.

It must have been a difficult decision to go out on a limb like that.

This gives me the courage to finally make that burning puppies is wrong topic I have been thinking about making.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]How much better is the 8800GT to a 9600?rimnet00

It's really hard to say, since we only have numbers and no benchmarks as of yet. Unless you want to believe these, which could be fake... but they are inline what nVidia said would be the target performance.

Ok, thanks

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cablemodemx2

You just discredited anandtech :| and linked to some noob website :|

You expected more from an ATI-fankid?

Personally, I've always liked Nvidia more. From my Riva TNT to my 8800 GTS 640 I have now.

And time for another upgrade!Big_Black_Eyes

And time for PC graphics to get even more ahead of console graphics!

Yeah and the cycle will continue. PS4 and XB720 will surpass PC when they launch for a short amount of time and then the PC will surpass them again shortly. EnergyAbsorber

I think thats debatable, I think on the release of both systems this gen the computer was already matched if not beyond both systems..

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25929540

Take a look at this badboy then! The new Nehalem Intel chips for 2008 will have 8 cores per die with 2 threads per core. This motherboard can house 2 chips totalling 16 cores at 3 Ghz!!

The motherboard is also holding 16GB of DDR3 and can hold 4 16GB sticks of DDR3 giving a total of 64GB of ram. However, accoding to this, there will be a bandwidth problem having so much memory.

Not to mention the 9800GTXs coming out with Triple SLI!!

Consolites, this is the sort of thing coming out for PC gamers in 2008, 2009 and 2010!!

If you cant compete with PCs now, what hopes are there for your bragging rights regarding the cell in the very near future? Serious question guys!

DAZZER7

and yet pc gaming is immobile or shrinks and console gaming just keeps growing hmmmm... and that computer u just posted? at the least would cost right now 3-4k dollars and you know it, when I can spend 200-600 dollars and just pop a game in and have it run at its best on a computer then ill dive in till then the only things i play are RTS games which dont need massively powerful computers.

and mmo's.

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http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25929540

Take a look at this badboy then! The new Nehalem Intel chips for 2008 will have 8 cores per die with 2 threads per core. This motherboard can house 2 chips totalling 16 cores at 3 Ghz!!

The motherboard is also holding 16GB of DDR3 and can hold 4 16GB sticks of DDR3 giving a total of 64GB of ram. However, accoding to this, there will be a bandwidth problem having so much memory.

Not to mention the 9800GTXs coming out with Triple SLI!!

Consolites, this is the sort of thing coming out for PC gamers in 2008, 2009 and 2010!!

If you cant compete with PCs now, what hopes are there for your bragging rights regarding the cell in the very near future? Serious question guys!

WilliamRLBaker

and yet pc gaming is immobile or shrinks and console gaming just keeps growing hmmmm... and that computer u just posted? at the least would cost right now 3-4k dollars and you know it, when I can spend 200-600 dollars and just pop a game in and have it run at its best on a computer then ill dive in till then the only things i play are RTS games which dont need massively powerful computers.

and mmo's.

1. The PC userbase is GROWING!

2. PC hardware is getting cheaper. Now it generally costs lest than $1000 to get a high end PC if you choose your parts right. The 9 series cards and other hardware prices dropping are probably going to take it close to below $800.

3. Are you suggesting that a Wii is as powerful as a high end PC?

4. Pretty much every genre except action-adventure, fighters and 3D platformers are better on the PC.

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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]What and when is ATi's counter? zipozal

I have no idea that's why I'm asking :D

How's ATi's counter performance/price-wise compared to what NVidia is offering?

Currently the 3870x2 is the best single card solution available, but nVidia will most likely strike back rather quickly with the 9800GX2.

Thanks for the info.

It's scary really..as soon as I finished building my PC some two-three years ago I lost track ENTIRELY what was going on in the PC market in terms of hardware. Catching up slowly now since I'm going to build a new one this summer. Bet I'll lose track again as soon as I finish the job :)

Good to hear ATi have the top of the line GPU out right now though; will keep my eye on that one.

Its not. ATi just released a card that is 10% faster than an 8800 ultra. Which the ultra has been out for 1 year. Do not waste your money on ATi. For at least 2 years until AMD and ATi can get their act together. It would be a huge waste buying the new ATi. Just wait 2 to 3 weeks and get the GX2 which will be 20% faster than the new ATi card at the same price.

EDIT: The new card for ATi is 2 gpu processors in one card. So really its a crossfire config in one card much like the Nvidia 7950 was. The GX2 will be the same. the 9800 GTX will be the next gen card. The real 9-series that will retail at around $600 ish.

For now Nvidia is king of the bunch.

Great another ignorant Nvidia fanboy, just 10% faster then the Ultra? So what it costs 450 FREAKING DOLLARS! The ultra cost what again when it was out? 800? FFS most standard 8800GTX cards which the 3870x2 destroys cost more then that!

It's about the price performance ration and right now the 3870x2 is raping Nvidia in this regard.

btw there is a large amount of talk abotu the 9800 series having some serious heating issues from Nvidias partners.

:lol: another Nvidia fanboy :lol: most sites show the 3870 crossfire (which is a bit slower then the 3870x2) as slower then the 8800GT sli

Especially at 8x AA were the 8800GT sli is a freaking trainwreck :lol:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3209&p=4

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13967/9

:lol: :lol: AnandTech could you pick a more bias source :lol: :lol: what are you going to link me to next that Nvidia Fan Zone group Nvidia runs to keep their pets like anand in line :lol:

Anyway your benchmarks don't even point out 8XAA and if you spend all that money with the exception of crysis with a dual card setup what game wouldn't you want to run at, at least 8XAA???

:lol: :lol: http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/test_ati_radeon_hd_3870_x2/8/#abschnitt_anno_1701

The 3870 X2 is actually more then 100% faster then even the 8800 ULTRA at 8xAA :lol: this test in particular doesn't show 8x on an SLI, but its a bandwidth flaw throughout Nvidias 8 Series were it takes a huge freaking hit from 8XAA, seriously you would have to be retarded to go with the SLI 8 series knowing this unless you only plan to play Crysis :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: The 8 series is prone to choke so hard at 8xAA that EVEN THE FREAKING 3x 8800 ULTRA looses to a SINGLE 3870X2 :lol: :lol:

There is no side by side, but if you look between the link above and this one you can compare.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/test_nvidia_3-way-sli_triple-sli/

And you could by four freaking 3870X2s for the price of 2 8800 Ultras alone :lol: :lol: :lol:

FEAR 2560 by 1600 8xAA

3x 8800 Ultra = 42 fps

2x 8800 Ultra = 30 fps

3870X2 = 37 fps

Anno 1701 (huge rts in europe) 2560 by 1600 8xAA

3x 8800 Ultra = 20.7 fps

3870X2 = 40.6 fps

Bioshock 2560 by 1600

2x 8800 Ultra = 41 fps

3870X2 = 37.4 fps

And those are freaking Ultras!!! One of em is like twice the cost of a 3870x2!! The 8800GT / GT sli is COMPLETE GARBAGE when it comes to 8xAA

Your ignorance is astounding.