This is one of my most anticipated games of the year. I am going to be optimistic and say AAA.
The Official METROID: Other M Hype Thread!!! (,,,)56k...time to go(,,,) 8.5 GS
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Triple-A. ALso thunderdrone, make sure you take note that Actic Edge garanteed me this will go below A. this will be TRASH. Complete and utter trash. Make sure his eventual ownage, and my glorious ego boasting is noted :Pjg4xchamp
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Triple-A. ALso thunderdrone, make sure you take note that Actic Edge garanteed me this will go below A. this will be TRASH. Complete and utter trash. Make sure his eventual ownage, and my glorious ego boasting is noted :PActicEdge
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
For a core Nintendo franchise? Very rare.[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Triple-A. ALso thunderdrone, make sure you take note that Actic Edge garanteed me this will go below A. this will be TRASH. Complete and utter trash. Make sure his eventual ownage, and my glorious ego boasting is noted :PSaltyMeatballs
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
For a core Nintendo franchise? Very rare.Perhaps but I judge from whatI see, not from the name or the history. Thing is, if I'm right I have the satisfaction of knowing that hey, I was right, if I'm wrong, then its just one more good game :)
For a core Nintendo franchise? Very rare.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
ActicEdge
Perhaps but I judge from whatI see, not from the name or the history. Thing is, if I'm right I have the satisfaction of knowing that hey, I was right, if I'm wrong, then its just one more good game :)
I don't see that as a win-win situation because if you're right I wouldn't be happy :P
It can't get less than 8.0. The relative score would be really out of place, because when you go into the 7's you enter the "Mirror's Edge territory", those games are good in concept but lack polish.
Other M does not lack polish, you have to take it for what it is, just because you personally dislike the "2.5D" perspective or something doesn't mean it is of low quality.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] For a core Nintendo franchise? Very rare.kontejner44
Perhaps but I judge from whatI see, not from the name or the history. Thing is, if I'm right I have the satisfaction of knowing that hey, I was right, if I'm wrong, then its just one more good game :)
I don't see that as a win-win situation because if you're right I wouldn't be happy :P
It can't get less than 8.0. The relative score would be really out of place, because when you go into the 7's you enter the "Mirror's Edge territory", those games are good in concept but lack polish.
Other M does not lack polish, you have to take it for what it is, just because you personally dislike the "2.5D" perspective or something doesn't mean it is of low quality.
Naw, it just doesn't look good. Terrible voice acting, sparce environments, bland art design, simple and basic gameplay, completely lacks the metroid atmosphere and the control scheme is actually dumb as hell. I think people will be surprised by the games suck tbh.
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Perhaps but I judge from whatI see, not from the name or the history. Thing is, if I'm right I have the satisfaction of knowing that hey, I was right, if I'm wrong, then its just one more good game :)
ActicEdge
I don't see that as a win-win situation because if you're right I wouldn't be happy :P
It can't get less than 8.0. The relative score would be really out of place, because when you go into the 7's you enter the "Mirror's Edge territory", those games are good in concept but lack polish.
Other M does not lack polish, you have to take it for what it is, just because you personally dislike the "2.5D" perspective or something doesn't mean it is of low quality.
Naw, it just doesn't look good. Terrible voice acting, sparce environments, bland art design, simple and basic gameplay, completely lacks the metroid atmosphere and the control scheme is actually dumb as hell. I think people will be surprised by the games suck tbh.
Terrible voice acting is Arc Rise Fantasia, that makes MOM look like the Godfather movie. I like the art design, either way that's subjective. Gameplay seems to go back to its routes with the first person twist. One thing I would have liked is Nunchuk support, for smoother gameplay in the 3D spaces (instead of eight directions)[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]
I don't see that as a win-win situation because if you're right I wouldn't be happy :P
It can't get less than 8.0. The relative score would be really out of place, because when you go into the 7's you enter the "Mirror's Edge territory", those games are good in concept but lack polish.
Other M does not lack polish, you have to take it for what it is, just because you personally dislike the "2.5D" perspective or something doesn't mean it is of low quality.
SaltyMeatballs
Naw, it just doesn't look good. Terrible voice acting, sparce environments, bland art design, simple and basic gameplay, completely lacks the metroid atmosphere and the control scheme is actually dumb as hell. I think people will be surprised by the games suck tbh.
Terrible voice acting is Arc Rise Fantasia, that makes MOM look like the Godfather movie. I like the art design, either way that's subjective. Gameplay seems to go back to its routes with the first person twist. One thing I would have liked is Nunchuk support, for smoother gameplay in the 3D spaces (instead of eight directions)ARF is horrid, Mom is still pretty mediocore though. Art is subjective I agree but compared to the stanard of prime its pretty bad. The gameplay is auto shoot, dodge, finish frankly, seems rather basic, Lack of nunchuck is dumb. We'll see though. It will be the biggest ownage ever if I'm right about the score though :P
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Triple-A. ALso thunderdrone, make sure you take note that Actic Edge garanteed me this will go below A. this will be TRASH. Complete and utter trash. Make sure his eventual ownage, and my glorious ego boasting is noted :PActicEdge
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
You hype B? 6-6.5? That's taking it too far. :P No way will it score that low. You're setting yourself up for ownage, son.
Anyway, I'm hyping AAA. Not because I think it will achieve it, but to show I have faith in Samus. :)
Terrible voice acting is Arc Rise Fantasia, that makes MOM look like the Godfather movie. I like the art design, either way that's subjective. Gameplay seems to go back to its routes with the first person twist. One thing I would have liked is Nunchuk support, for smoother gameplay in the 3D spaces (instead of eight directions)[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Naw, it just doesn't look good. Terrible voice acting, sparce environments, bland art design, simple and basic gameplay, completely lacks the metroid atmosphere and the control scheme is actually dumb as hell. I think people will be surprised by the games suck tbh.
ActicEdge
ARF is horrid, Mom is still pretty mediocore though. Art is subjective I agree but compared to the stanard of prime its pretty bad. The gameplay is auto shoot, dodge, finish frankly, seems rather basic, Lack of nunchuck is dumb. We'll see though. It will be the biggest ownage ever if I'm right about the score though :P
I see what you're saying, but I just have a hard time thinking this game will suck. I don't want it to :cry:[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Triple-A. ALso thunderdrone, make sure you take note that Actic Edge garanteed me this will go below A. this will be TRASH. Complete and utter trash. Make sure his eventual ownage, and my glorious ego boasting is noted :PTreyoftheDead
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
You hype B? 6-6.5? That's taking it too far. :P No way will it score that low. You're setting yourself up for ownage, son.
Anyway, I'm hyping AAA. Not because I think it will achieve it, but to show I have faith in Samus. :)
I should say A 7.5 because that's more realistic but I can't say its gooing to suck then hype it "good". Plus something about the game is "off" to me. Champ will enjoy it if I'm wrong (I have a feeling I won't be though). I think AAA is craziness. Samus will disappoint (well maybe :P)
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"Amazingly cinematic"
*sigh* Well that's just exactly what Metroid needs. :roll: I'm not hyped for this after what they did to the Prime series with the third. I hate the term 'cinematic' if you said a film was"Amazingly cinematic" you would be considered an idiot, so why do people get away with applying it to video games of all things, which really shouldn't be 'cinematic' because they are not films?
Episode_Eve
You know, I never thought about that until now :lol:.
Cinematic
1: of, relating to, suggestive of, or suitable for motion pictures or the filming of motion pictures
2: filmed and presented as a motion picture
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Doesn't make much sense as as an adjective for describing games and especially movies. But I guess it's used in lieu of words such as "dynamic" or terms like "immersive / artistic cinematography (or the equivalent for video game development)"?
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You know, Metroid Prime 3 was my least favorite of the Prime spin-offs, but what did Retro Studios (not Team Ninja) do to it that displeased you?
Bit of a late response, but I missed this thread when it went official. I tend to ignore stickys because they go so fast you never actually see your own post.
Well they made it cinematic :P. Honestly though they removed the atmosphere form the game, instead of a feeling of isolation and mystery you just feel like a part in some corny B movie. The gameplay was still fairly decent, but the game worlds felt more like actual levels than finely crafted environments. It still maintained the core elements of a Metroid Prime game, but not what made it so special in the first place. It felt like just another shooter.
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The voice acting is far from terrible, it's not a holywood blockbuster cinematical-ish which is supposed to sound like UC2, it's more like an anime and everything in the cutscenes is made with japanese VA in mind, it's very different from english so to translate that perfect is impossible. You have to take it for what it is, an anime, it's not a hollywood blockbuster, it's different, you can't score a cats game less because you like dogs more, that's bias.
Exactly the same thing can be said about the control scheme. You may dislike it, but it's far from flawed or "dumb" as you say. I will say that the score is heavily dependant on how well the controls are integrated with the gameplay, it's not set in stone whether or not it will be highly successful, but to call it flawed is wrong, unless they made them worse from E3 till now.
This game is not some joke, it won Wii game of the show and was nominated to best game of E3 on GT. 8.5 seems to be a safe bet, 9.0 is the aim. Poll agrees.
"Thoroughly polished, Samus' next adventure is undoubtedly ready for prime time"
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The voice acting is far from terrible, it's not a holywood blockbuster cinematical-ish which is supposed to sound like UC2, it's more like an anime and everything in the cutscenes is made with japanese VA in mind, it's very different from english so to translate that perfect is impossible. You have to take it for what it is, an anime, it's not a hollywood blockbuster, it's different, you can't score a cats game less because you like dogs more, that's bias.
Exactly the same thing can be said about the control scheme. You may dislike it, but it's far from flawed or "dumb" as you say. I will say that the score is heavily dependant on how well the controls are integrated with the gameplay, it's not set in stone whether or not it will be highly successful, but to call it flawed is wrong, unless they made them worse from E3 till now.
This game is not some joke, it won Wii game of the show and was nominated to best game of E3 on GT. 8.5 seems to be a safe bet, 9.0 is the aim. Poll agrees.
"Thoroughly polished, Samus' next adventure is undoubtedly ready for prime time"
kontejner44
We could debate how stupid it is to use a Dpad over an analogue stick for movement on a plane but I'm not in the mood to argue something obvious. This isn't up for debate, its a hype thread and I've weighed in my opinion of the game, I'm not going to fight you on it because that's the impression I have gotten from what I have viewed.
This looks like an easy 8. Most of the hate on the bords come from people that go "ewww story,ewww cutscenes,ewww voices" MP3 is my second fav of the prime series. So I dont mind voices and some story. Also the gameplay just looks great.
finalfantasy94
Quite frankly I don't understand how story can be a bad thing...some people are just never satisfied. Anyway yeah easy 8. I'm thinking 8.5-9.0.
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Perhaps but I judge from whatI see, not from the name or the history. Thing is, if I'm right I have the satisfaction of knowing that hey, I was right, if I'm wrong, then its just one more good game :)
ActicEdge
I don't see that as a win-win situation because if you're right I wouldn't be happy :P
It can't get less than 8.0. The relative score would be really out of place, because when you go into the 7's you enter the "Mirror's Edge territory", those games are good in concept but lack polish.
Other M does not lack polish, you have to take it for what it is, just because you personally dislike the "2.5D" perspective or something doesn't mean it is of low quality.
Naw, it just doesn't look good. Terrible voice acting, sparce environments, bland art design, simple and basic gameplay, completely lacks the metroid atmosphere and the control scheme is actually dumb as hell. I think people will be surprised by the games suck tbh.
I agree on Voice acting, environments, art design, atmosphere. Can't judge control scheme, everyone agrees on paper it sounds stupid, but previews for it seem pleasant. As for simple and basic gameplay. Just punch yourself in the face for being dead wrong .It's clearly the only thing left to say(this is Team Ninja with an action game, atleast in Other Ms case it's more action oriented approach). Simple and basic just isn't their thing(see Ninja Gaiden). [spoiler] dear gamespot mods. I was joking and making a quick jab at actic edge's wonderful opinions. I would never dream of insulting, offending, or trolling a member of my favorite online community. Also I would never ask someone to punch themselves in the face. No matter how much they should read what they wrote and realise how much garbage it is [/spoiler][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
This looks like an easy 8. Most of the hate on the bords come from people that go "ewww story,ewww cutscenes,ewww voices" MP3 is my second fav of the prime series. So I dont mind voices and some story. Also the gameplay just looks great.
TacticalDesire
Quite frankly I don't understand how story can be a bad thing...some people are just never satisfied. Anyway yeah easy 8. I'm thinking 8.5-9.0.
Because the story telling in Metroid Prime 1 and Prime 2 was unique and was in unision with the gameplay/game design. This game is going for the stupid "cinematic" brand of story telling everyone else is doing(which is stupid, it's a passive form of telling a story in an INTERACTIVE medium). The other thing that makes the story in this automatically trash long before it releases is the horrendous voice acting. So it's not just poor story telling, but it's already got some attrocious dialogue going for it. It's pretty much a given that the story told in this game will suck ass.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Triple-A. ALso thunderdrone, make sure you take note that Actic Edge garanteed me this will go below A. this will be TRASH. Complete and utter trash. Make sure his eventual ownage, and my glorious ego boasting is noted :PActicEdge
I still think it will suck. Standing by that, it definitely will not score AAA though so atleast I'll have the satisfaction of knowing you were wrong too :)
I hype B, sorry guys but I think it looks terrible,
Um so you won't like it... but that doesn't change the fact that there's no way in hell Gamespot is scoring it below a 7.5....
Because the story telling in Metroid Prime 1 and Prime 2 was unique and was in unision with the gameplay/game design. This game is going for the stupid "cinematic" brand of story telling everyone else is doing(which is stupid, it's a passive form of telling a story in an INTERACTIVE medium).jg4xchampI agree with this. Anyone else think that scanning will be totally gone in this game? I haven't been reading interviews, but with the direction this game seems to be taking I can't imagine they would actually write all that stuff.
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This looks like an easy 8. Most of the hate on the bords come from people that go "ewww story,ewww cutscenes,ewww voices" MP3 is my second fav of the prime series. So I dont mind voices and some story. Also the gameplay just looks great.
jg4xchamp
Quite frankly I don't understand how story can be a bad thing...some people are just never satisfied. Anyway yeah easy 8. I'm thinking 8.5-9.0.
Because the story telling in Metroid Prime 1 and Prime 2 was unique and was in unision with the gameplay/game design. This game is going for the stupid "cinematic" brand of story telling everyone else is doing(which is stupid, it's a passive form of telling a story in an INTERACTIVE medium). The other thing that makes the story in this automatically trash long before it releases is the horrendous voice acting. So it's not just poor story telling, but it's already got some attrocious dialogue going for it. It's pretty much a given that the story told in this game will suck ass.idk from what iv seen it doesint seem to bad.
Most hyped game for me this year, can't wait.
idk from what iv seen it doesint seem to bad.finalfantasy94Doesn't seem too special either, which makes it very odd that they're placing so much emphasis on the story (the latest interview said that the story is as important to them as the action). They act as if Metroid never had a story before, when in reality it just never had a character-driven traditional story (or at least not in those games I played). I never thought it needed one, and they haven't convinced me otherwise
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Because the story telling in Metroid Prime 1 and Prime 2 was unique and was in unision with the gameplay/game design. This game is going for the stupid "cinematic" brand of story telling everyone else is doing(which is stupid, it's a passive form of telling a story in an INTERACTIVE medium). The other thing that makes the story in this automatically trash long before it releases is the horrendous voice acting. So it's not just poor story telling, but it's already got some attrocious dialogue going for it. It's pretty much a given that the story told in this game will suck ass.finalfantasy94
idk from what iv seen it doesint seem to bad.
"The word he so obviously chose, 'outsider,' pierced my heart."
No, the script and the (English) voice acting has been downright awful from what I've seen. Also Champ, I completely agree with the portion highlighted in red. From what I've played, the Metroid Prime series nailed how a story should be told in the Metroid universe. If they are going for the cinematic approach, they should at the very least do a decent job with the script and voice-acting. I can't say anything about the plot since I haven't played the game yet, but it's not looking too good so far.
The gameplay looks good, and perhaps that will save the package. I'll go with AA on this game.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Because the story telling in Metroid Prime 1 and Prime 2 was unique and was in unision with the gameplay/game design. This game is going for the stupid "cinematic" brand of story telling everyone else is doing(which is stupid, it's a passive form of telling a story in an INTERACTIVE medium). The other thing that makes the story in this automatically trash long before it releases is the horrendous voice acting. So it's not just poor story telling, but it's already got some attrocious dialogue going for it. It's pretty much a given that the story told in this game will suck ass.Sky-
idk from what iv seen it doesint seem to bad.
"The word he so obviously chose, 'outsider,' pierced my heart."
No, the script and the (English) voice acting has been downright awful from what I've seen. Also Champ, I completely agree with the portion highlighted in red. From what I've played, the Metroid Prime series nailed how a story should be told in the Metroid universe. If they are going for the cinematic approach, they should at the very least do a decent job with the script and voice-acting. I can't say anything about the plot since I haven't played the game yet, but it's not looking too good so far.
The gameplay looks good, and perhaps that will save the package. I'll go with AA on this game.
Scanning objects and creatures with the visor to get information about lore and history is obviously too hard for people.so we need our stories spoonfed to us.
Because the story telling in Metroid Prime 1 and Prime 2 was unique and was in unision with the gameplay/game design. This game is going for the stupid "cinematic" brand of story telling everyone else is doing(which is stupid, it's a passive form of telling a story in an INTERACTIVE medium). The other thing that makes the story in this automatically trash long before it releases is the horrendous voice acting. So it's not just poor story telling, but it's already got some attrocious dialogue going for it. It's pretty much a given that the story told in this game will suck ass.[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]
Quite frankly I don't understand how story can be a bad thing...some people are just never satisfied. Anyway yeah easy 8. I'm thinking 8.5-9.0.
finalfantasy94
idk from what iv seen it doesint seem to bad.
eh some of it makes me cringe. Personally I can tolerate bad dialogue(I love Bayonetta after all, and well I love the original Resident Evil for Barry alone lol). The gameplay, boss fights, level design, and overall pacing is what I have high hopes for. If they can nail each down to what I want, and have it nice and polished at 60 frames per second? Than I don't give a **** if the story sucks.Love Metroid. Kind of iffy on this, but I am more than willing to bet that they can only do better than Prime 3(because Prime 3 was not even in the same league as Prime 1/Prime 2 in quality) as an action oriented Metroid. jg4xchamp
MP3 was a great game. I agree the first two were better at capturing that isolated errie feel that had a bit more focus on exploration, but MP3 was still a blast and a great conclusion to the Prime series. Play Trilogy straight through on the Wii and you'll realize that it was a good thing that MP3 took an ever so slightly different direction with the Prime formula.
As far as quality goes I really dont understand what you're trying to say. Metroid Prime 3's production values and craftsmanship were every bit as good as the other two, so from what I've gathered it's that you just didnt like how the gameplay was /slightly/ more focused on action rather then exploration (even though it still had a lot of exploration).
As far as story telling goes I thought it did a great job. Sure it had some acted out cutscenes that aren't exactly Metroid's style but I also don't think that is reason enough to say that MP3 isn't even in the same league as MP1/2.
The Voice Acting is Miles better than Arc Rise Fantasia, I don't mind the Story I mean wasn't Samus with people at the beggining of Metroid Fusion?
That would make sense for this game seing how it's between Super Metroid and Fusion. and I don't know about you guys but do you really like Scanning everything in sight in Metroid Prime? cause Metroid, Metroid 2, Super Metroid, and Metroid Fusion didn't have the scanning feature and were awesome games.
I don't see the Problem that some of you guys are seeing. Metroid Other M is supposed to be more like Super Metroid than Prime.
Im sorry but samus voice isint as bad as people are saying. You want bad voice acting go watch the old voltron or the anime movie art of fighting. Those are prime examples of some bad voice acting. People just tend to overreact to things that are alien to them.
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idk from what iv seen it doesint seem to bad.
Kandlegoat
"The word he so obviously chose, 'outsider,' pierced my heart."
No, the script and the (English) voice acting has been downright awful from what I've seen. Also Champ, I completely agree with the portion highlighted in red. From what I've played, the Metroid Prime series nailed how a story should be told in the Metroid universe. If they are going for the cinematic approach, they should at the very least do a decent job with the script and voice-acting. I can't say anything about the plot since I haven't played the game yet, but it's not looking too good so far.
The gameplay looks good, and perhaps that will save the package. I'll go with AA on this game.
Scanning objects and creatures with the visor to get information about lore and history is obviously too hard for people.so we need our stories spoonfed to us.
No not hard,but could be downright boring to some. Some people just dont wanna read pages and pages of text anymore. They want voices and the story told to them.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Love Metroid. Kind of iffy on this, but I am more than willing to bet that they can only do better than Prime 3(because Prime 3 was not even in the same league as Prime 1/Prime 2 in quality) as an action oriented Metroid. karasill
MP3 was a great game. I agree the first two were better at capturing that isolated errie feel that had a bit more focus on exploration, but MP3 was still a blast and a great conclusion to the Prime series. Play Trilogy straight through on the Wii and you'll realize that it was a good thing that MP3 took an ever so slightly different direction with the Prime formula.
As far as quality goes I really dont understand what you're trying to say. Metroid Prime 3's production values and craftsmanship were every bit as good as the other two, so from what I've gathered it's that you just didnt like how the gameplay was /slightly/ more focused on action rather then exploration (even though it still had a lot of exploration).
As far as story telling goes I thought it did a great job. Sure it had some acted out cutscenes that aren't exactly Metroid's style but I also don't think that is reason enough to say that MP3 isn't even in the same league as MP1/2.
Slightly less exploration? Try spoon fed. Smaller more linear levels (Key word levels), crappy plot, less interesting environments, utterly terrible voice acting and characters, mediocre boss fights and a broken level of immersion due to a complete lack of atmosphere. There are literally tonnes of reasons why MP3 was a terrible end to the series. I did play through the trilogy from start to finish, and though I expected MP3 to be inferior, I wasn't expecting them to do a complete 180 from everything they had achieved in the past. As far as I'm concerned it was an attempt to turn Metroid in to Halo, and it failed. It was still a decent game in it's own right, but it has quite possibly signalled the end of a once great series, even if they still make Metroid games. I'm not sure how you define slightly, but when you take the complex and largely open environments you see in MP1 and 2 (More so in 2) and then turn them in to small linear levels, Metroid Prime losses what makes it such a good game in the first place.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Love Metroid. Kind of iffy on this, but I am more than willing to bet that they can only do better than Prime 3(because Prime 3 was not even in the same league as Prime 1/Prime 2 in quality) as an action oriented Metroid. WasntAvailable
MP3 was a great game. I agree the first two were better at capturing that isolated errie feel that had a bit more focus on exploration, but MP3 was still a blast and a great conclusion to the Prime series. Play Trilogy straight through on the Wii and you'll realize that it was a good thing that MP3 took an ever so slightly different direction with the Prime formula.
As far as quality goes I really dont understand what you're trying to say. Metroid Prime 3's production values and craftsmanship were every bit as good as the other two, so from what I've gathered it's that you just didnt like how the gameplay was /slightly/ more focused on action rather then exploration (even though it still had a lot of exploration).
As far as story telling goes I thought it did a great job. Sure it had some acted out cutscenes that aren't exactly Metroid's style but I also don't think that is reason enough to say that MP3 isn't even in the same league as MP1/2.
Slightly less exploration? Try spoon fed. Smaller more linear levels (Key word levels), crappy plot, less interesting environments, utterly terrible voice acting and characters, mediocre boss fights and a broken level of immersion due to a complete lack of atmosphere. There are literally tonnes of reasons why MP3 was a terrible end to the series. I did play through the trilogy from start to finish, and though I expected MP3 to be inferior, I wasn't expecting them to do a complete 180 from everything they had achieved in the past. As far as I'm concerned it was an attempt to turn Metroid in to Halo, and it failed. It was still a decent game in it's own right, but it has quite possibly signalled the end of a once great series, even if they still make Metroid games. I'm not sure how you define slightly, but when you take the complex and largely open environments you see in MP1 and 2 (More so in 2) and then turn them in to small linear levels, Metroid Prime losses what makes it such a good game in the first place.
wow thats what I call overkill. MP3 is no where near that bad. Infact iv gone on to say it tops MP2 in my eyes.Which just draged on to me mainly thanks to he gimmick of light and dark. Only good thing that came from that was the badass looking light suit you get. The voices that are in MP3 arent no where near terrible. Its just passible-ok.
Some people said that many lines in FF13 made them cringe, and I only cringed once or twice, and in a laughable way. That line about Adam was really cheesy, but it's only one line. I doubt the story will be bad in my eyes, epically sense I really enjoyed FF13's when some people said it was utter garbage. I'm going to take it or what it is. The VA is average. Doesn't really bother me, though I would like to watch the cut scenes in Japanese with subtitles like I watch most anime.IppoTenma
When people hate something they tend to overexaggerate on things. Hell iv done before in my life to.
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[QUOTE="karasill"]
MP3 was a great game. I agree the first two were better at capturing that isolated errie feel that had a bit more focus on exploration, but MP3 was still a blast and a great conclusion to the Prime series. Play Trilogy straight through on the Wii and you'll realize that it was a good thing that MP3 took an ever so slightly different direction with the Prime formula.
As far as quality goes I really dont understand what you're trying to say. Metroid Prime 3's production values and craftsmanship were every bit as good as the other two, so from what I've gathered it's that you just didnt like how the gameplay was /slightly/ more focused on action rather then exploration (even though it still had a lot of exploration).
As far as story telling goes I thought it did a great job. Sure it had some acted out cutscenes that aren't exactly Metroid's style but I also don't think that is reason enough to say that MP3 isn't even in the same league as MP1/2.
finalfantasy94
Slightly less exploration? Try spoon fed. Smaller more linear levels (Key word levels), crappy plot, less interesting environments, utterly terrible voice acting and characters, mediocre boss fights and a broken level of immersion due to a complete lack of atmosphere. There are literally tonnes of reasons why MP3 was a terrible end to the series. I did play through the trilogy from start to finish, and though I expected MP3 to be inferior, I wasn't expecting them to do a complete 180 from everything they had achieved in the past. As far as I'm concerned it was an attempt to turn Metroid in to Halo, and it failed. It was still a decent game in it's own right, but it has quite possibly signalled the end of a once great series, even if they still make Metroid games. I'm not sure how you define slightly, but when you take the complex and largely open environments you see in MP1 and 2 (More so in 2) and then turn them in to small linear levels, Metroid Prime losses what makes it such a good game in the first place.
wow thats what I call overkill. MP3 is no where near that bad. Infact iv gone on to say it tops MP2 in my eyes.Which just draged on to me mainly thanks to he gimmick of light and dark. Only good thing that came from that was the badass looking light suit you get. The voices that are in MP3 arent no where near terrible. Its just passible-ok.
The voice acting is pretty terrible. To be honest if voice acting is mediocre it is terrible. If you can't voice a character convincingly, don't.
I didn't say it was bad, I even said it was decent, I just said it was much worse. That's not over kill at all.
I'm not sure where you're getting that point on MP2. The light and dark maps were very different from each other, and created one of the most original environments in a video game ever. Not only that but the dark maps changed the pacing of the game completely creating a greater diversity in gameplay. It was a genuinely interesting mechanic which only enhanced the game further. Dark Aether is one of the most atmospheric sections of any Metroid game. It was expertly crafted to force the player to think across two different worlds in other to solve puzzles. It was what made Metroid Prime 2 the best in the series in my eyes. The only reason Dark Aether ever seemed to drag on was because it was so unsettling. To me I just wanted to get out because it was not a comfortable environment to be in, and that's exactly what the developers intended. Now that's good game design. By comparison the only reason I wanted to get out of environments in MP3 was because I was bored of them.
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]
I don't see that as a win-win situation because if you're right I wouldn't be happy :P
It can't get less than 8.0. The relative score would be really out of place, because when you go into the 7's you enter the "Mirror's Edge territory", those games are good in concept but lack polish.
Other M does not lack polish, you have to take it for what it is, just because you personally dislike the "2.5D" perspective or something doesn't mean it is of low quality.
jg4xchamp
Naw, it just doesn't look good. Terrible voice acting, sparce environments, bland art design, simple and basic gameplay, completely lacks the metroid atmosphere and the control scheme is actually dumb as hell. I think people will be surprised by the games suck tbh.
I agree on Voice acting, environments, art design, atmosphere. Can't judge control scheme, everyone agrees on paper it sounds stupid, but previews for it seem pleasant. As for simple and basic gameplay. Just punch yourself in the face for being dead wrong .It's clearly the only thing left to say(this is Team Ninja with an action game, atleast in Other Ms case it's more action oriented approach). Simple and basic just isn't their thing(see Ninja Gaiden).dear gamespot mods. I was joking and making a quick jab at actic edge's wonderful opinions. I would never dream of insulting, offending, or trolling a member of my favorite online community. Also I would never ask someone to punch themselves in the face. No matter how much they should read what they wrote and realise how much garbage it is
The gameplay does look simple and basic thus far, I haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise besides hope and belief. I mean, unless they are hiding some really badass gameplay segments thus far all I see is run, auto aim shoot, dodge, rinse repeat finisher. Pretty dang basic. Also, my opinions aew indeed wonderful thank you :)
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]
Slightly less exploration? Try spoon fed. Smaller more linear levels (Key word levels), crappy plot, less interesting environments, utterly terrible voice acting and characters, mediocre boss fights and a broken level of immersion due to a complete lack of atmosphere. There are literally tonnes of reasons why MP3 was a terrible end to the series. I did play through the trilogy from start to finish, and though I expected MP3 to be inferior, I wasn't expecting them to do a complete 180 from everything they had achieved in the past. As far as I'm concerned it was an attempt to turn Metroid in to Halo, and it failed. It was still a decent game in it's own right, but it has quite possibly signalled the end of a once great series, even if they still make Metroid games. I'm not sure how you define slightly, but when you take the complex and largely open environments you see in MP1 and 2 (More so in 2) and then turn them in to small linear levels, Metroid Prime losses what makes it such a good game in the first place.
WasntAvailable
wow thats what I call overkill. MP3 is no where near that bad. Infact iv gone on to say it tops MP2 in my eyes.Which just draged on to me mainly thanks to he gimmick of light and dark. Only good thing that came from that was the badass looking light suit you get. The voices that are in MP3 arent no where near terrible. Its just passible-ok.
The voice acting is pretty terrible. To be honest if voice acting is mediocre it is terrible. If you can't voice a character convincingly, don't.
I didn't say it was bad, I even said it was decent, I just said it was much worse. That's not over kill at all.
I'm not sure where you're getting that point on MP2. The light and dark maps were very different from each other, and created one of the most original environments in a video game ever. Not only that but the dark maps changed the pacing of the game completely creating a greater diversity in gameplay. It was a genuinely interesting mechanic which only enhanced the game further. Dark Aether is one of the most atmospheric sections of any Metroid game. It was expertly crafted to force the player to think across two different worlds in other to solve puzzles. It was what made Metroid Prime 2 the best in the series in my eyes. The only reason Dark Aether ever seemed to drag on was because it was so unsettling. To me I just wanted to get out because it was not a comfortable environment to be in, and that's exactly what the developers intended. Now that's good game design. By comparison the only reason I wanted to get out of environments in MP3 was because I was bored of them.
From my memory it just made the world purple and you had to go there so you can solve some puzzels. To me it didint add much to the game. Also something cant be mediocre and terrible at the same time.
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
wow thats what I call overkill. MP3 is no where near that bad. Infact iv gone on to say it tops MP2 in my eyes.Which just draged on to me mainly thanks to he gimmick of light and dark. Only good thing that came from that was the badass looking light suit you get. The voices that are in MP3 arent no where near terrible. Its just passible-ok.
finalfantasy94
The voice acting is pretty terrible. To be honest if voice acting is mediocre it is terrible. If you can't voice a character convincingly, don't.
I didn't say it was bad, I even said it was decent, I just said it was much worse. That's not over kill at all.
I'm not sure where you're getting that point on MP2. The light and dark maps were very different from each other, and created one of the most original environments in a video game ever. Not only that but the dark maps changed the pacing of the game completely creating a greater diversity in gameplay. It was a genuinely interesting mechanic which only enhanced the game further. Dark Aether is one of the most atmospheric sections of any Metroid game. It was expertly crafted to force the player to think across two different worlds in other to solve puzzles. It was what made Metroid Prime 2 the best in the series in my eyes. The only reason Dark Aether ever seemed to drag on was because it was so unsettling. To me I just wanted to get out because it was not a comfortable environment to be in, and that's exactly what the developers intended. Now that's good game design. By comparison the only reason I wanted to get out of environments in MP3 was because I was bored of them.
From my memory it just made the world purple and you had to go there so you can solve some puzzels. To me it didint add much to the game. Also something cant be mediocre and terrible at the same time. The words mean two different things. I dont mind if the voices are just ok or passible.
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Your memory is wrong. The map layout was entirely different, and that's not mentioning the distinctly different art style. Maybe you should play Metroid Prime 2 again.
And yes it can, you can have mediocre voice acting that brings down other elements of the game. That in my eyes makes it inherently terrible. In actuality it's mediocre, but because of it's negative impact on other elements it can be considered terrible. In a game that is all about atmosphere, poor voice acting can destroy it's whole purpose almost on it's own. Think Resident Evil.
Spoon-fed. lol is this what people are saying about this game?
I guess in order for Metroid to be a Good game you have to Scan Objects and junk.
yep Spoon-Fed Story given Metroid Game. That's Metroid: Other M guys!
It can't be good cause you can't scan objects!
yep....no scanning in Other M means that it's going to be horrible. :P
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]
The voice acting is pretty terrible. To be honest if voice acting is mediocre it is terrible. If you can't voice a character convincingly, don't.
I didn't say it was bad, I even said it was decent, I just said it was much worse. That's not over kill at all.
I'm not sure where you're getting that point on MP2. The light and dark maps were very different from each other, and created one of the most original environments in a video game ever. Not only that but the dark maps changed the pacing of the game completely creating a greater diversity in gameplay. It was a genuinely interesting mechanic which only enhanced the game further. Dark Aether is one of the most atmospheric sections of any Metroid game. It was expertly crafted to force the player to think across two different worlds in other to solve puzzles. It was what made Metroid Prime 2 the best in the series in my eyes. The only reason Dark Aether ever seemed to drag on was because it was so unsettling. To me I just wanted to get out because it was not a comfortable environment to be in, and that's exactly what the developers intended. Now that's good game design. By comparison the only reason I wanted to get out of environments in MP3 was because I was bored of them.
WasntAvailable
From my memory it just made the world purple and you had to go there so you can solve some puzzels. To me it didint add much to the game. Also something cant be mediocre and terrible at the same time. The words mean two different things. I dont mind if the voices are just ok or passible.
... :|
Your memory is wrong. The map layout was entirely different, and that's not mentioning the distinctly different art style. Maybe you should play Metroid Prime 2 again.
And yes it can, you can have mediocre voice acting that brings down other elements of the game. That in my eyes makes it inherently terrible. In actuality it's mediocre, but because of it's negative impact on other elements it can be considered terrible. In a game that is all about atmosphere, poor voice acting can destroy it's whole purpose almost on it's own. Think Resident Evil.
Yea but the thing is its no were near RE level. What artstyle everything looked the same just dark,purple and infected. Its a mirror world. Thats the point of it. Yea the map layout was different,but thats because things were blocking the way so you would need to go in another direction. Again the mirror world didint add much to my eyes.
I :lol:'dSpoon-fed. lol is this what people are saying about this game?
I guess in order for Metroid to be a Good game you have to Scan Objects and junk.
yep Spoon-Fed Story given Metroid Game. That's Metroid: Other M guys!
It can't be good cause you can't scan objects!
yep....no scanning in Other M means that it's going to be horrible. :P
LegatoSkyheart
I am really not sure what to make of Metroid Other M, because I've always had a kind of iffy opinion about introducing cinematics into a Metroid game. I always felt that if Metroid was going to attempt to introduce more narrative into the story, they should do it seamlessly like like Half-Life and Dead Space. In those games, you never stop playing the game to watch a little movie. This game has a great pedigree and I am really hoping the it delivers on the gameplay front, but I'm worried that by putting lots of cutscenes into the game, they risk making it feel less Metroid-ish. A big part of the Metroid experience is the sense of loneliness and isolation, and like Metroid Fusion (which pretty much abandoned that aspect outright) I worry that Other M is not going to capture it.
and I don't know about you guys but do you really like Scanning everything in sight in Metroid Prime?
LegatoSkyheart
I did, actually. I don't know about you, but I appreciate games that have a certain depth and richness to their world. That's what atmosphere means, and that's what makes one want to explore a game world beyond what's required for progression.
[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]
and I don't know about you guys but do you really like Scanning everything in sight in Metroid Prime?
Cherokee_Jack
I did, actually. I don't know about you, but I appreciate games that have a certain depth and richness to their world. That's what atmosphere means, and that's what makes one want to explore a game world beyond what's required for progression.
I found it pretty boring IMO. yeah sure it gives you more history to the game but for real it felt like everywhere I turned was a place to scan something and I couldn't honestly enjoy the game.
I mean if I want to read I'd get a book not a game.
[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]
[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]
and I don't know about you guys but do you really like Scanning everything in sight in Metroid Prime?
LegatoSkyheart
I did, actually. I don't know about you, but I appreciate games that have a certain depth and richness to their world. That's what atmosphere means, and that's what makes one want to explore a game world beyond what's required for progression.
I found it pretty boring IMO. yeah sure it gives you more history to the game but for real it felt like everywhere I turned was a place to scan something and I couldn't honestly enjoy the game.
I mean if I want to read I'd get a book not a game.
If I wanted to watch non-interactive story sequences, I'd watch a movie.........same principle.
What's nice about scanning is that you don't NEED to scan everything - just what you're interested in. That way you can get just as much of the story as you wish to see.
If I wanted to watch non-interactive story sequences, I'd watch a movie.........same principle.
What's nice about scanning is that you don't NEED to scan everything - just what you're interested in. That way you can get just as much of the story as you wish to see.
Cherokee_Jack
Good job at stabbing at my arguement.
But seriously there's a difference from watching an non-interactive story sequence than reading a huge log text from something you scanned.
when you are watching an non-interactive story sequence in a game you're going through the story, you're seeing what happens next you're progressing in the game and most likely would get you pumped up for what's about to happen Gameplay Wise.
But when you are reading a huge log from something you just scanned for a Story you're having yourself stop playing the game and reading the History of something you have just scanned. You're not Progressing through the Game you're reading the history of the thing you just scanned and you don't get pumped to go to the next part of the game you're just wondering how long is this text and when can I start playing the game again...then that's when you figure oh right I can just stop reading and go back to killing monsters and scanning more things.
(don't get me wrong Metroid Prime is awesome but the Scanning thing is a bit too much if you ask me.)
[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]
If I wanted to watch non-interactive story sequences, I'd watch a movie.........same principle.
What's nice about scanning is that you don't NEED to scan everything - just what you're interested in. That way you can get just as much of the story as you wish to see.
LegatoSkyheart
Good job at stabbing at my arguement.
But seriously there's a difference from watching an non-interactive story sequence than reading a huge log text from something you scanned.
when you are watching an non-interactive story sequence in a game you're going through the story, you're seeing what happens next you're progressing in the game and most likely would get you pumped up for what's about to happen Gameplay Wise.
But when you are reading a huge log from something you just scanned for a Story you're having yourself stop playing the game and reading the History of something you have just scanned. You're not Progressing through the Game you're reading the history of the thing you just scanned and you don't get pumped to go to the next part of the game you're just wondering how long is this text and when can I start playing the game again...then that's when you figure oh right I can just stop reading and go back to killing monsters and scanning more things.
(don't get me wrong Metroid Prime is awesome but the Scanning thing is a bit too much if you ask me.)
I thought it was mostly really interesting, personally. Even the short descriptions you get upon first scanning things really add to the sense that you're in the middle of a living alien ecosystem, which is one of my favorite things about the series.Please Log In to post.
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