The Official METROID: Other M Hype Thread!!! (,,,)56k...time to go(,,,) 8.5 GS

Spoon-fed. lol is this what people are saying about this game?

I guess in order for Metroid to be a Good game you have to Scan Objects and junk.

yep Spoon-Fed Story given Metroid Game. That's Metroid: Other M guys!

It can't be good cause you can't scan objects!

yep....no scanning in Other M means that it's going to be horrible. :P

LegatoSkyheart

Eh, what exactly is your point? The scanning is insignificant compared to everything else. That's not the problem with MP3 or Other M, it's that they are watered down. Hell, those videos are proof of that if you have played MP3.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

From my memory it just made the world purple and you had to go there so you can solve some puzzels. To me it didint add much to the game. Also something cant be mediocre and terrible at the same time. The words mean two different things. I dont mind if the voices are just ok or passible.

finalfantasy94

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Your memory is wrong. The map layout was entirely different, and that's not mentioning the distinctly different art style. Maybe you should play Metroid Prime 2 again.

And yes it can, you can have mediocre voice acting that brings down other elements of the game. That in my eyes makes it inherently terrible. In actuality it's mediocre, but because of it's negative impact on other elements it can be considered terrible. In a game that is all about atmosphere, poor voice acting can destroy it's whole purpose almost on it's own. Think Resident Evil.

Yea but the thing is its no were near RE level. What artstyle everything looked the same just dark,purple and infected. Its a mirror world. Thats the point of it. Yea the map layout was different,but thats because things were blocking the way so you would need to go in another direction. Again the mirror world didint add much to my eyes.

That dosn't make a difference. Both games are meant to rely on atmosphere, both of which (MP3 and RE) failed to provide largely due to voice acting.

Maybe you just don't enjoy the same aspects of games I do if you don't appreciate something as well put together as MP2, which would be fine if this wasn't Metroid, but there is a particular reason why people like Metroid in the first place, and MP3 does not satisfy that reason. Or alternatively you don't remember MP2 at all which isn't all that unlikely from the sound of it. It was not a mirror world when you consider that the map layout is entirely different, and the gameplay changes considerably. I'm not sure why you've bolded that part either. The art style is distinctly different, it dosn't look remotely similar when you switch between worlds, with the exception of shared geography.

Eh, what exactly is your point? The scanning is insignificant compared to everything else. That's not the problem with MP3 or Other M, it's that they are watered down. Hell, those videos are proof of that if you have played MP3.

WasntAvailable

You don't know if Other M is watered down -- and Prime 3 certainly wasn't a watered down experience. It was similar to Metroid Fusion in many ways, it held you're hand too much.

Doesn't meant its a bad game or a bad Metroid game, like you're making it sound. They're both stellar titles, regardless, they're just some of the easiest in the franchise in terms of completion...

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Eh, what exactly is your point? The scanning is insignificant compared to everything else. That's not the problem with MP3 or Other M, it's that they are watered down. Hell, those videos are proof of that if you have played MP3.

Haziqonfire

You don't know if Other M is watered down -- and Prime 3 certainly wasn't a watered down experience. It was similar to Metroid Fusion in many ways, it held you're hand too much.

Doesn't meant its a bad game or a bad Metroid game, like you're making it sound. They're both stellar titles, regardless, they're just some of the easiest in the franchise in terms of completion...

That pretty much means the same thing.

I didn't say it was bad though, just decent, but a bad Metroid game, which it is. It wasn't just that it was easy, everything was brought down a notch to compromise for a ham fisted plot. I'm only guessing they will pull the same stunt on Other M, it sure looks that way.

That pretty much means the same thing.

I didn't say it was bad though, just decent, but a bad Metroid game, which it is. It wasn't just that it was easy, everything was brought down a notch to compromise for a ham fisted plot. I'm only guessing they will pull the same stunt on Other M, it sure looks that way.

WasntAvailable

I don't think Prime 3 or Fusion were bad games. Yeah, they we're easier for completion, but still well designed. Skytown is still one of my favourite areas in any of the Prime titles and regardless of what a lot of people say here about the boss fights, I thought Prime 3 had a bunch of great ones.

I understand some of the issues towards Prime 3, but definitely not all of it. Boss fights specifically and the whole 'it was a bad Metroid game'. The only bad Metroid game that exists to me is Hunters, which felt nothing like a Metroid title.

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Spoon-fed. lol is this what people are saying about this game?

I guess in order for Metroid to be a Good game you have to Scan Objects and junk.

yep Spoon-Fed Story given Metroid Game. That's Metroid: Other M guys!

It can't be good cause you can't scan objects!

yep....no scanning in Other M means that it's going to be horrible. :P

WasntAvailable

Eh, what exactly is your point? The scanning is insignificant compared to everything else. That's not the problem with MP3 or Other M, it's that they are watered down. Hell, those videos are proof of that if you have played MP3.

WTF? I freakin' had Metroid Prime 3 since 2007. I gave it to my Cousin because I had Trilogy. I have played Metroid Prime 3 and from what I got from you that you will miss scanning cause scanning stuff made the story a whole lot better and my entire argument was that Other M isn't being like Prime but more of the 2D games and Scanning doesn't make Metroid Any Better or Less.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Spoon-fed. lol is this what people are saying about this game?

I guess in order for Metroid to be a Good game you have to Scan Objects and junk.

yep Spoon-Fed Story given Metroid Game. That's Metroid: Other M guys!

It can't be good cause you can't scan objects!

yep....no scanning in Other M means that it's going to be horrible. :P

LegatoSkyheart

Eh, what exactly is your point? The scanning is insignificant compared to everything else. That's not the problem with MP3 or Other M, it's that they are watered down. Hell, those videos are proof of that if you have played MP3.

WTF? I freakin' had Metroid Prime 3 since 2007. I gave it to my Cousin because I had Trilogy. I have played Metroid Prime 3 and from what I got from you that you will miss scanning cause scanning stuff made the story a whole lot better and my entire argument was that Other M isn't being like Prime but more of the 2D games and Scanning doesn't make Metroid Any Better or Less.

Ok, but what has that got to do with the game not spoon feeding you? The idea was that the game didn't exactly challenge you to think, and ok, neither did Prime 1 and 2 for the most part, but they didn't have flashy signs showing exactly where to go and how to get there. The concerns with Other M have nothing to do with not being able to scan, you made that up yourself. If scanning was what made Prime good there would have been nothing wrong with Prime 3, unfortunately it's not the problem at all. Other M looks to put emphasis on cut scenes and the environments look crushingly linear from what can be seen of the screens. Not to mention bland.

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That pretty much means the same thing.

I didn't say it was bad though, just decent, but a bad Metroid game, which it is. It wasn't just that it was easy, everything was brought down a notch to compromise for a ham fisted plot. I'm only guessing they will pull the same stunt on Other M, it sure looks that way.

Haziqonfire

I don't think Prime 3 or Fusion were bad games. Yeah, they we're easier for completion, but still well designed. Skytown is still one of my favourite areas in any of the Prime titles and regardless of what a lot of people say here about the boss fights, I thought Prime 3 had a bunch of great ones.

I understand some of the issues towards Prime 3, but definitely not all of it. Boss fights specifically and the whole 'it was a bad Metroid game'. The only bad Metroid game that exists to me is Hunters, which felt nothing like a Metroid title.

The main problem with the boss fights was that they were very unoriginal and had a complete lack of diversity. Didn't do a single thing differently from what had been done in the past. The weak points were glaringly obvious as well. They also repeated boss fights, that was irritating. What made the boss fights even worse was that they had lost their menace. I mean despite having a galactic fleet to support you, apparently they still see you as perfectly capable of killing giant enemy bosses on your own. They obviously don't take the threat very seriously, so why should the player? At least before you could say, "Well she's on her own with no way of contacting allies, I can understand that." In 3 it makes no sense what so ever to send a single solider alone. So much for being a bounty hunter, I like how they threw that out the window. When someone you're supposed to hire to do small tasks for you is superior to your entire fighting force you have to wonder, why even bother trying to fight a war?

Havn't played Hunters yet though.

The main problem with the boss fights was that they were very unoriginal and had a complete lack of diversity. Didn't do a single thing differently from what had been done in the past. The weak points were glaringly obvious as well. They also repeated boss fights, that was irritating. What made the boss fights even worse was that they had lost their menace. I mean despite having a galactic fleet to support you, apparently they still see you as perfectly capable of killing giant enemy bosses on your own. They obviously don't take the threat very seriously, so why should the player? At least before you could say, "Well she's on her own with no way of contacting allies, I can understand that." In 3 it makes no sense what so ever to send a single solider alone. So much for being a bounty hunter, I like how they threw that out the window. When someone you're supposed to hire to do small tasks for you is superior to your entire fighting force you have to wonder, why even bother trying to fight a war?

Havn't played Hunters yet though.

WasntAvailable

To each there own, I think differently. Didn't think the boss fights were unoriginal, really. A lot of them were memorable to me. I didn't think Prime 3 was a disappointment, thought it was rather good. All the Prime games are fantastic in my books.

But alas, you can't please everyone.

I think it'll score an 8.5 on Gamespot. I think 9.0 is a longshot, but possible.

I have no idea if fans will like this or not, but at least it seems like the spirit of the original 2D games.Willy105

We are actually in the month of the game's release!

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The main problem with the boss fights was that they were very unoriginal and had a complete lack of diversity. Didn't do a single thing differently from what had been done in the past. The weak points were glaringly obvious as well. They also repeated boss fights, that was irritating. What made the boss fights even worse was that they had lost their menace. I mean despite having a galactic fleet to support you, apparently they still see you as perfectly capable of killing giant enemy bosses on your own. They obviously don't take the threat very seriously, so why should the player? At least before you could say, "Well she's on her own with no way of contacting allies, I can understand that." In 3 it makes no sense what so ever to send a single solider alone. So much for being a bounty hunter, I like how they threw that out the window. When someone you're supposed to hire to do small tasks for you is superior to your entire fighting force you have to wonder, why even bother trying to fight a war?

Havn't played Hunters yet though.

Haziqonfire

To each there own, I think differently. Didn't think the boss fights were unoriginal, really. A lot of them were memorable to me. I didn't think Prime 3 was a disappointment, thought it was rather good. All the Prime games are fantastic in my books.

But alas, you can't please everyone.

Samus was not fighting the fight on her own and was certainly not the only force of the GFS to be involved in this conflict. Nor the only Bounty Hunter. The other three Bounty Hunters were each sent to their own planets to track down the Aurora units while the fleet was fighting off a pirate invsion on Norion and likely other locations as well. Lest we forget Valhalla being attacked and destroyed. Part of that "missing army" you referred to that obviously wasn't helping Samus due to their being dead. Every part of the force is accounted for in the game but of course it takes someone to pay attention to the story and actually be able to understand what's going on and what the other characters are doing.

The reason we play as Samus alone in Corruption isn't because the devs needlessly dropped everyone out of the story courtesy of a glaring accident, but because we follow one of several bounty hunters (this being a Metroid game of course it's Samus) on her solo mission that is acting as one piece to the bigger puzzle of several missions that are working together to stop the opposition.

So in short; you are wrong. Now I'm not saying you are not allowed to dislike Corruption. You have every right for whatever reasons make sense to you. But what you can't really do is base that dislike on something that isnt even a credible complaint about the game. That would be like saying you didn't like God of War III because of the lame final boss battle with Ganondorf. Now that's just nonsense.

The prime games had good narrative through scanning and you learned about the atmosphere more from doing so .. where as the 2D games didn't need that, chances are you remember different locales in the old Metroid games .. so yeah, scanning doesn't matter for Other M since it's basically trying to be like the 2D games but with a story heavy approach.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The prime games had good narrative through scanning and you learned about the atmosphere more from doing so .. where as the 2D games didn't need that, chances are you remember different locales in the old Metroid games .. so yeah, scanning doesn't matter for Other M since it's basically trying to be like the 2D games but with a story heavy approach.Cherokee_Jack

Are you directly comparing Other M with the Prime games?

That's almost like complaining that Zelda TP doesn't have stylus controls like the ones in Zelda PH/ST.

2D (2.5D) vs 3D gameplay... yeah.

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The main problem with the boss fights was that they were very unoriginal and had a complete lack of diversity. Didn't do a single thing differently from what had been done in the past. The weak points were glaringly obvious as well. They also repeated boss fights, that was irritating. What made the boss fights even worse was that they had lost their menace. I mean despite having a galactic fleet to support you, apparently they still see you as perfectly capable of killing giant enemy bosses on your own. They obviously don't take the threat very seriously, so why should the player? At least before you could say, "Well she's on her own with no way of contacting allies, I can understand that." In 3 it makes no sense what so ever to send a single solider alone. So much for being a bounty hunter, I like how they threw that out the window. When someone you're supposed to hire to do small tasks for you is superior to your entire fighting force you have to wonder, why even bother trying to fight a war?

Havn't played Hunters yet though.

Darth-Samus

To each there own, I think differently. Didn't think the boss fights were unoriginal, really. A lot of them were memorable to me. I didn't think Prime 3 was a disappointment, thought it was rather good. All the Prime games are fantastic in my books.

But alas, you can't please everyone.

Samus was not fighting the fight on her own and was certainly not the only force of the GFS to be involved in this conflict. Nor the only Bounty Hunter. The other three Bounty Hunters were each sent to their own planets to track down the Aurora units while the fleet was fighting off a pirate invsion on Norion and likely other locations as well. Lest we forget Valhalla being attacked and destroyed. Part of that "missing army" you referred to that obviously wasn't helping Samus due to their being dead. Every part of the force is accounted for in the game but of course it takes someone to pay attention to the story and actually be able to understand what's going on and what the other characters are doing.

The reason we play as Samus alone in Corruption isn't because the devs needlessly dropped everyone out of the story courtesy of a glaring accident, but because we follow one of several bounty hunters (this being a Metroid game of course it's Samus) on her solo mission that is acting as one piece to the bigger puzzle of several missions that are working together to stop the opposition.

So in short; you are wrong. Now I'm not saying you are not allowed to dislike Corruption. You have every right for whatever reasons make sense to you. But what you can't really do is base that dislike on something that isnt even a credible complaint about the game. That would be like saying you didn't like God of War III because of the lame final boss battle with Ganondorf. Now that's just nonsense.

Wow you're right, I can't believe the immense depth of the highly cerebral plot I missed on the first playthrough. :roll:

Can't believe your trying to defend the plot, and with such paper thin arguments.

Yes, there were other bounty hunters who were also expected to deal with massive threats on their own without the support of the rather large military force, which apparently couldn't really be bothered assisting. They were dead (Or as good as.) by the time Samus was on her mission, so no one in the game except from Samus was doing anything until the very end. Of course that makes sense because... The fleet was not wiped out at all, it was sitting around not doing an awful lot for the whole game. Valhalla was one ship in a FLEET. Imagine in a war you have a battalion of tanks. The general sends forward one tank, and it gets blown up. What do you do? Push forward to engage the attacking force which you should have done in the first place, or send in a single hired bounty hunter, who you shouldn't really be able to trust, and expect her to deal with the entire problem by herself? I understand it's a video game, but I can only suspend disbelief so far. I mean if you're going to try and defend a plot at least try and actually cover up the plot hole before telling someone they are wrong. :|

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The prime games had good narrative through scanning and you learned about the atmosphere more from doing so .. where as the 2D games didn't need that, chances are you remember different locales in the old Metroid games .. so yeah, scanning doesn't matter for Other M since it's basically trying to be like the 2D games but with a story heavy approach.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The prime games had good narrative through scanning and you learned about the atmosphere more from doing so .. where as the 2D games didn't need that, chances are you remember different locales in the old Metroid games .. so yeah, scanning doesn't matter for Other M since it's basically trying to be like the 2D games but with a story heavy approach.kontejner44

Are you directly comparing Other M with the Prime games?

That's almost like complaining that Zelda TP doesn't have stylus controls like the ones in Zelda PH/ST.

2D (2.5D) vs 3D gameplay... yeah.

I gotta say, its really disappointing to read a lot of the comments by the so called "fans" or shall i say the fans who are stuck on the Metroid Prime series. Nintendo really did something different with Metroid and I am glad they did. I can understand if the game doesn't look like your cup of tea, however bashing it and comparing it to the Prime series is ridiculous seeing as how the game is completely different and is clearly going for the old school feel of Metroid.

I really think this game is going to surprise a lot of the fans and people. A lot of the decisions they made for the game make sense to me, such as Samus's tone of voice (though I will say the game's script seems rather questionable so far.) to the decision of the controller pad 2.5d game play.

however bashing it and comparing it to the Prime series is ridiculous seeing as how the game is completely different and is clearly going for the old school feel of Metroid.mexicangordo

And yet with this new heavy emphasis on traditional storytelling, this game is quite clearly distancing itself from the "old-school" Metroid games.

Yes, it has a 2D plane of movement, but does that mean it has to start from scratch as if Prime never existed? I don't think so, and I for one would rather see more of the "new-school" of Metroid rather than the "old-school" (whether that means more of Prime or something entirely new).

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

To each there own, I think differently. Didn't think the boss fights were unoriginal, really. A lot of them were memorable to me. I didn't think Prime 3 was a disappointment, thought it was rather good. All the Prime games are fantastic in my books.

But alas, you can't please everyone.

WasntAvailable

Samus was not fighting the fight on her own and was certainly not the only force of the GFS to be involved in this conflict. Nor the only Bounty Hunter. The other three Bounty Hunters were each sent to their own planets to track down the Aurora units while the fleet was fighting off a pirate invsion on Norion and likely other locations as well. Lest we forget Valhalla being attacked and destroyed. Part of that "missing army" you referred to that obviously wasn't helping Samus due to their being dead. Every part of the force is accounted for in the game but of course it takes someone to pay attention to the story and actually be able to understand what's going on and what the other characters are doing.

The reason we play as Samus alone in Corruption isn't because the devs needlessly dropped everyone out of the story courtesy of a glaring accident, but because we follow one of several bounty hunters (this being a Metroid game of course it's Samus) on her solo mission that is acting as one piece to the bigger puzzle of several missions that are working together to stop the opposition.

So in short; you are wrong. Now I'm not saying you are not allowed to dislike Corruption. You have every right for whatever reasons make sense to you. But what you can't really do is base that dislike on something that isnt even a credible complaint about the game. That would be like saying you didn't like God of War III because of the lame final boss battle with Ganondorf. Now that's just nonsense.

Wow you're right, I can't believe the immense depth of the highly cerebral plot I missed on the first playthrough. :roll:

Can't believe your trying to defend the plot, and with such paper thin arguments.

Yes, there were other bounty hunters who were also expected to deal with massive threats on their own without the support of the rather large military force, which apparently couldn't really be bothered assisting. They were dead (Or as good as.) by the time Samus was on her mission, so no one in the game except from Samus was doing anything until the very end. Of course that makes sense because... The fleet was not wiped out at all, it was sitting around not doing an awful lot for the whole game. Valhalla was one ship in a FLEET. Imagine in a war you have a battalion of tanks. The general sends forward one tank, and it gets blown up. What do you do? Push forward to engage the attacking force which you should have done in the first place, or send in a single hired bounty hunter, who you shouldn't really be able to trust, and expect her to deal with the entire problem by herself? I understand it's a video game, but I can only suspend disbelief so far. I mean if you're going to try and defend a plot at least try and actually cover up the plot hole before telling someone they are wrong. :|

Okay well I'm not going to pretend like I don't understand which part of the story is the basis for your complaint. Your ultimate point is that Samus is doing too much alone, while the army does nothing. Is there an element of truth to that? Sure. Samus is taking the brunt of the work on herself. And you're right that the strategy makes no sense. It would be an ill-advised tactic when you could be bombarding every planet she travels to. However I think that A) you are blowing the scope of that point out of proportion, and B) in doing so have forgotten that it's a Metroid video game about Samus and her mission. So I just don't know what you would have expected. It seems like your ability to suspend disbelief in a video game is a little restrictive and honestly....that doesn't work too well in the world of video games. It's an important ability to have when trying to enjoy them.

This is all not to mention that all of the points I made about the rest of the GFS's involvement in the conflict is anything but the "paper-thin" defense you claimed it was. In fact, I was dumbfounded that you even said that dude lol. Your complaint was that Samus is the only one fighting. Okay. Then I showed you how that's not entirely true. What more is there to be said? I mean, I even considered the conclusion where, because you were unhappy with the answer to your complaint being so easily presented and were probably frustrated by it, that you attempted to fool-hardedley debunk it in the hopes that I wouldn't notice. But then I figured that would be ludicrous lol ;)

As far as the Valhalla goes, you're certainly right that it is only one ship in said FLEET. However My point though was that it's destruction, and this part could be left to interpretation I admit, was more meant as a representation of what could be happening throughout the galaxy to many different ships. That there are lots of casualties of this war happening all the time and that many GFS soldiers are dying in the assistance in the GFS's hopeful victory.

So basically I don't know man. It seems like we just both feel differently and maybe we should just agree to disagree, eh? As long as you like at least the first Prime (the best game ever made), and are excited for Other M, then all is well and we're on the smae team .

Game of the Year incoming in 28 days.

Game of the Year incoming in 28 days.

Zophar87

I couldn't agree more! In fact it could end up being the game of my life lol. As Metroid Prime stands as my all-time favorite game ever made. So if this is better than Prime....which let's be honest it looks like it could be, then I have a new favorite game on the horizon. And that excites me to no end :D

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] however bashing it and comparing it to the Prime series is ridiculous seeing as how the game is completely different and is clearly going for the old school feel of Metroid.Cherokee_Jack

And yet with this new heavy emphasis on traditional storytelling, this game is quite clearly distancing itself from the "old-school" Metroid games.

Yes, it has a 2D plane of movement, but does that mean it has to start from scratch as if Prime never existed? I don't think so, and I for one would rather see more of the "new-school" of Metroid rather than the "old-school" (whether that means more of Prime or something entirely new).

Again how is it starting from scratch? That does not make sense? Was it ok that Prime started from "scratch" without keeping the future games in mind? It technically did that, and I remember everyone complaining about it too. I remember the exact same reaction people giving Other M is what happened back when Metroid Prime was coming out. People bashed it, and said it looked like a mess but it changed once the game came out...

THIS GAME MAKES ME ANGRY.

Mahrio

What the?! :shock:

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THIS GAME MAKES ME ANGRY.

Darth-Samus

What the?! :shock:

Waiting for this game is making me angry. Everytime I think "Arghh, I need this game now" I get the urge to kick puppies.

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[QUOTE="Mahrio"]

THIS GAME MAKES ME ANGRY.

felipebo

What the?! :shock:

Waiting for this game is making me angry. Everytime I think "Arghh, I need this game now" I get the urge to kick puppies.

Touche my good man. Touche.

Waiting for this game is making me angry. Everytime I think "Arghh, I need this game now" I get the urge to kick puppies.

Mahrio

Really? I get the urge to kick babies. Hmmm...

Art wise, and gameplay wise seem to mix the Fusion/Super Metroid with Primes influences.mexicangordo

It doesn't seem to be taking any artistic influence from Prime, though. It just seems like a 3D Super Metroid visually. And the first-person targeting is all it seems to take from Prime's gameplay.

Im sure you want some dark "mature" super cool "atmospheric" Metroid game

Yes, I do.

I'm not sure what makes Prime more "mature" or "dark" than Other M, and I'm not sure anyone has said such a thing in this thread, but I do want an atmospheric Metroid game, because Metroid has had a strong sense of atmosphere for its entire history. That's one of the greatest strengths of the franchise.

If you want more of the same i suggest you find the countless generic's out their

There are countless games that are like Prime? Or are you saying that Prime is generic? I don't follow.

You say that you want to see more "new school" yet your complaining about something new and wanting the old.

You said yourself that Other M is going for the old-school Metroid feel. Prime is the new school of Metroid.

Again how is it starting from scratch? That does not make sense? Was it ok that Prime started from "scratch" without keeping the future games in mind?

It did keep the past games in mind, because it took the concepts from those games and evolved and modernized them. It was the OOT of Metroid games, but Other M seems to be treating it as the Mario 2 of Metroid games, so to speak.

So basically we should be comparing this game to Shadow Complex or the recent Castlevanias rather than Metroid Prime.Cherokee_Jack

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[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Samus was not fighting the fight on her own and was certainly not the only force of the GFS to be involved in this conflict. Nor the only Bounty Hunter. The other three Bounty Hunters were each sent to their own planets to track down the Aurora units while the fleet was fighting off a pirate invsion on Norion and likely other locations as well. Lest we forget Valhalla being attacked and destroyed. Part of that "missing army" you referred to that obviously wasn't helping Samus due to their being dead. Every part of the force is accounted for in the game but of course it takes someone to pay attention to the story and actually be able to understand what's going on and what the other characters are doing.

The reason we play as Samus alone in Corruption isn't because the devs needlessly dropped everyone out of the story courtesy of a glaring accident, but because we follow one of several bounty hunters (this being a Metroid game of course it's Samus) on her solo mission that is acting as one piece to the bigger puzzle of several missions that are working together to stop the opposition.

So in short; you are wrong. Now I'm not saying you are not allowed to dislike Corruption. You have every right for whatever reasons make sense to you. But what you can't really do is base that dislike on something that isnt even a credible complaint about the game. That would be like saying you didn't like God of War III because of the lame final boss battle with Ganondorf. Now that's just nonsense.

Darth-Samus

Wow you're right, I can't believe the immense depth of the highly cerebral plot I missed on the first playthrough. :roll:

Can't believe your trying to defend the plot, and with such paper thin arguments.

Yes, there were other bounty hunters who were also expected to deal with massive threats on their own without the support of the rather large military force, which apparently couldn't really be bothered assisting. They were dead (Or as good as.) by the time Samus was on her mission, so no one in the game except from Samus was doing anything until the very end. Of course that makes sense because... The fleet was not wiped out at all, it was sitting around not doing an awful lot for the whole game. Valhalla was one ship in a FLEET. Imagine in a war you have a battalion of tanks. The general sends forward one tank, and it gets blown up. What do you do? Push forward to engage the attacking force which you should have done in the first place, or send in a single hired bounty hunter, who you shouldn't really be able to trust, and expect her to deal with the entire problem by herself? I understand it's a video game, but I can only suspend disbelief so far. I mean if you're going to try and defend a plot at least try and actually cover up the plot hole before telling someone they are wrong. :|

Okay well I'm not going to pretend like I don't understand which part of the story is the basis for your complaint. Your ultimate point is that Samus is doing too much alone, while the army does nothing. Is there an element of truth to that? Sure. Samus is taking the brunt of the work on herself. And you're right that the strategy makes no sense. It would be an ill-advised tactic when you could be bombarding every planet she travels to. However I think that A) you are blowing the scope of that point out of proportion, and B) in doing so have forgotten that it's a Metroid video game about Samus and her mission. So I just don't know what you would have expected. It seems like your ability to suspend disbelief in a video game is a little restrictive and honestly....that doesn't work too well in the world of video games. It's an important ability to have when trying to enjoy them.

This is all not to mention that all of the points I made about the rest of the GFS's involvement in the conflict is anything but the "paper-thin" defense you claimed it was. In fact, I was dumbfounded that you even said that dude lol. Your complaint was that Samus is the only one fighting. Okay. Then I showed you how that's not entirely true. What more is there to be said? I mean, I even considered the conclusion where, because you were unhappy with the answer to your complaint being so easily presented and were probably frustrated by it, that you attempted to fool-hardedley debunk it in the hopes that I wouldn't notice. But then I figured that would be ludicrous lol ;)

As far as the Valhalla goes, you're certainly right that it is only one ship in said FLEET. However My point though was that it's destruction, and this part could be left to interpretation I admit, was more meant as a representation of what could be happening throughout the galaxy to many different ships. That there are lots of casualties of this war happening all the time and that many GFS soldiers are dying in the assistance in the GFS's hopeful victory.

So basically I don't know man. It seems like we just both feel differently and maybe we should just agree to disagree, eh? As long as you like at least the first Prime (the best game ever made), and are excited for Other M, then all is well and we're on the smae team .

It's not just about suspending disbelief in video games, it's within the Prime series. It was never a problem until Prime 3.

And no, it was I who was dumbfounded by your response. I mean even when you take in to consideration the other bounty hunters, which they had lost contact with, that's only 4 I believe, which, excluding Samus, was not doing an awful lot. Concerning Valhalla I don't think the admiral guy, whoever that cardboard cut out was meant to be again, said it wasn't an isolated incident.

I mean you just admitted I was right when you said there was an element of truth in what I said, but it's not an element, it is the full truth. You havn't said an awful lot to back up your point except that I should suspend my disbelief further. No thanks, I think I'll just play better games that don't pull that stunt on me. You seem to be under the impression that I didn't follow the simplistic plot. May I ask how stupid do you think I am? Having said that I'm surprised we can even remember the plot to be honest, it's quite impressive when you think about how forgettable it was.

I'm sorry, but your argument is the very definition of paper thin. Incidentally I didn't blow it out of proportion, I was originally talking about boss fights, and how ridiculous a concept that is when you have whole fleets providing no support what so ever.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] So basically we should be comparing this game to Shadow Complex or the recent Castlevanias rather than Metroid Prime.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]Art wise, and gameplay wise seem to mix the Fusion/Super Metroid with Primes influences.Cherokee_Jack

It doesn't seem to be taking any artistic influence from Prime, though. It just seems like a 3D Super Metroid visually. And the first-person targeting is all it seems to take from Prime's gameplay.

If it looked like a 3D Super Metroid I wouldn't be bothered. From the screen shots the art **** looks really dull. Super Metroid looked great.

Graphically it looks cleaner, and therefore... blander? That's my take on it. I think the art style holds up well to old Metroid games, looks like a blend of Prime style and Super Metroid style.

I like that they were aiming for Super Metroid quality, because that is the best game of all time. No contest. I could be worried about the new direction (action and heavy story), but I was also nervous about the Prime series. Then I played it, and it was brilliant, prodigious. You name it. I have faith in the Metroid team. As long as they keep the sense of exploration and discovery all Metroid games have, then I am happy.SaltyMeatballs

Don't get me wrong, I like how it looks, it looks really crisp, dark themed and clean -- but it's definitely not as detailed and rich as the Prime games were. You'd see such small details in the Prime games, especially things like in Prime games, specifically historical aspects of the worlds on walls and what not.

Super Metroid is definitely one of the best games of all time -- so I'm glad they are setting the bar really high with Other M. Your point is exactly whats happening now -- a lot of people are fearful about the new direction of Metroid, the next step after the Prime games -- I think this is the logical next step for where the series should go. It's the most mature Nintendo franchise, I believe -- in the sense that the universe they've created is the best out of all their IPs for people who are into sci-fi and exploration, isolation, dark themes and what not.

I have faith in the team as well -- Sakamoto is the co-creator of the series, so I have no doubt it'll be absolutely awesome. And I also felt that Retro had done everything they could have done with first person Metroid titles once Prime 3 was finished. I'm glad its back to a 2D field of some sort.

It's been unstickied? Has this come out?

It's been unstickied? Has this come out?

felipebo

Nah comes out in about 30 days

It's been unstickied? Has this come out?

felipebo

What in the world.... Why was this un-stickied? Thats really lame... :?

The game comes out in a less than a month for crying out loud.

^ Cause apparentely Kinect is more important to gamers than an amazing Metroid game.. That's sad..:(

^ Cause apparentely Kinect is more important to gamers than an amazing Metroid game.. That's sad..:(

sanim02

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

^ Cause apparentely Kinect is more important to gamers than an amazing Metroid game.. That's sad..:(

Nintendo_Ownes7

So they needed the room for Kinect sticky? there is a maximum of stickied threads?

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

^ Cause apparentely Kinect is more important to gamers than an amazing Metroid game.. That's sad..:(

kontejner44

So they needed the room for Kinect sticky? there is a maximum of stickied threads?

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

It's been unstickied? Has this come out?

Nintendo_Ownes7

Hahah, JK. As if I'd forget :P