The Official SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 thread!!! (56k kaboom!)***GAMESPOT 10/10***

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#351 AmayaPapaya
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This is very interesting news. I really want to know what you unlock after getting 120 stars.

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Can't wait. This is gonna be a long game!

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#352 Phaze-Two
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sequel to one of the best games of all time. we need moar hype! game looks incredible. when zelda wii comes out ill get a wii and this and smg. damn i can't wait!

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#353 Shottayouth13-
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The Game Informer review seems to hint that there may be 240 unique stars. I may be reading into it too much but ehh...

Super Mario Galaxy 2 throws something new at you nearly every single level - and with over 240 stars to collect, that's no small feat. [Issue#206, p.94]

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#354 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Scythes777"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] You would stop posting at a community, reading all the news and so on, just because the reviewer in question didn't rate the game you haven't played yet AAA?Bigboi500

I would stop posting, I would probably still come here to read the news and such though. There is no question that this game is going to be one of the best games I have ever played, so whatever score it gets here doesn't matter to me since I find scores irrelevant to my judgement of a game. I'm just saying for SW purposes, that this game deserves AAA.

Agreed. I don't care about scores one way or the other either, but I would find another gaming site to spend my time with if the game gets robbed here.

It's not just about SMG2 either, GS has really dropped the ball in the Wii department by not reviewing great games like Rune Factory: Frontier and Sukura Wars: So Long My Love.

It doesn't make any sense. ''baww my game didn't get a super high review so no i'm leaving''
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#355 h575309
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

I'm interested to know which site you will go to that actually has in-depth Nintendo coverage

Shinobishyguy

NeoGAF. No, i'm not confused. Oh and even IGN is better than GS in terms of Nintendo coverage

speaking of coverage is GS even gonna make a launch center for this game? Or do they just not give a crap?

Wow you guys are really jumping to conclusions. Why is everyone bent out of shape so much before a review is even posted? :?

Your (meaning you guys) conspiracy theories of GS being biased are a little ridiculous. The game will get what it deserves (most likely a 9) so stop fretting.

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#356 haziqonfire
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I'm not going to lie, when it comes to Wii coverage GameSpot is one of the worst. IGN was good at Wii coverage but their editors we're terrible and that whole site is terrible. It's really annoying because the only sites that have Wii coverage are Nintendo specific sites like GoNintendo or TheWiire -- I just find it sad that most gaming sites don't take the console seriously and it usually shows that they have no idea about the Wii.
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#357 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Thunderdrone"] NeoGAF. No, i'm not confused. Oh and even IGN is better than GS in terms of Nintendo coverageh575309

speaking of coverage is GS even gonna make a launch center for this game? Or do they just not give a crap?

Wow you guys are really jumping to conclusions. Why is everyone bent out of shape so much before a review is even posted? :?

Your (meaning you guys) conspiracy theories of GS being biased are a little ridiculous. The game will get what it deserves (most likely a 9) so stop fretting.

we'll see when the review is posted.
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#358 Thunderdrone
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If i had to guess, i'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.
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#359 h575309
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If i had to guess, i'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.Thunderdrone
Man, you are so so bitter. Jeeeeeeez. Your like a Thunderdrone scorned. :P And honestly, what affect do their scores have on anything? Sure throngs of fanboys will scream flop, but every platform has had huge flops this year. Doesnt mean theyre not great games.
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#360 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]If i had to guess, i'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.h575309
Man, you are so so bitter. Jeeeeeeez. Your like a Thunderdrone scorned. :P And honestly, what affect do their scores have on anything? Sure throngs of fanboys will scream flop, but every platform has had huge flops this year. Doesnt mean theyre not great games.

huh? Did i sound bitter?

I was being honest, i think it will be praised but have a lower score than SMG because its a sequel instead of something that reinvents the genre again. You guys where talking about scores and i just shared my thoughts on what might happen here at Gamespot regardless of my opinion on that kind of mindset.

I'm not gonna rage over whatever they end up giving it.

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#361 jg4xchamp
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Yah do come off a bit bitter.
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#362 Thunderdrone
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Yah do come off a bit bitter. jg4xchamp

Hell, i'm gonna quote my post again because i'm failing to see all this bitterness you guys speak of:

"If i had to guess, i'd say that SMG2 wont be getting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel."

Where am i fuming here? Isnt it a reasonable prediction considering how GS generaly reviews and scores games?

You guys must be blending my posts with those who are threatening to react in one way or another if it scores bellow a 9.0, 10 or whatever.

Only rant i gave in this thread was about Gamespot's Wii coverage and yeah, its awful.

They are always late and dont even bother reviewing certain games like Rune Factory Frontier. Its hardly a sensationalist observation and if smaller websites, blogs and forums do it, this one ("home" to thousands of members and paying subscribers) has no excuse not to.

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#363 locopatho
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If i had to guess, i'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.Thunderdrone
They could still give it a 9.0. Besides this doesn't look like a "more of the same" sequel at all :)
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#364 kansasdude2009
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Hell, I'm bitter. Where is my SMG2? :evil:

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#365 Super_Hadouken
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This game will kick ass, to bad I won't be able to play it :(

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#366 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]If i had to guess, i'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.locopatho
They could still give it a 9.0. Besides this doesn't look like a "more of the same" sequel at all :)

true...but I'd say theres a 60/40 % chance of it either getting 9.0 or 8.5
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#367 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'm not going to lie, when it comes to Wii coverage GameSpot is one of the worst. IGN was good at Wii coverage but their editors we're terrible and that whole site is terrible. It's really annoying because the only sites that have Wii coverage are Nintendo specific sites like GoNintendo or TheWiire -- I just find it sad that most gaming sites don't take the console seriously and it usually shows that they have no idea about the Wii.

Well, sites tend to their readers.
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#368 thom_maytees
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]If i had to guess, I'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.locopatho
They could still give it a 9.0. Besides this doesn't look like a "more of the same" sequel at all :)

The fact the developers created new stages and features (more than 90%) that did not appear in the original Galaxy would negate the fact that it is "more of the same." This is not Super Mario Galaxy 1.5, and the developers had put more than two years of effort into Galaxy 2.

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#369 Khadaj32
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Super Mario Galaxy was one of the most amazing and addictive games I have ever played. I know SMG will be a 10 for me, anything below 9.5 for reviewers will make me question their sanity.

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#370 AmayaPapaya
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To the people arguing if it will get 8.5 or 9.0, just think of GOW3. It is kind of in the same position as Galaxy 2, yet it still got a 9.0.

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#371 Gonzafan
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I hope that Super Mario Galaxy 2 should get a 9.0 or better.

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#372 NinjaDuckling
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Looks fantastic. I can't wait, haven't been so hyped in a while. Off topic: Thunderdrone, what is your GAF username? If you don't mind me asking.
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#373 SpinoRaptor24
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Man there's hardly anyone here.

Where the hype at yo?

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#374 JAB991
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Man there's hardly anyone here.

Where the hype at yo?

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*raised the roof*
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#375 Thunderdrone
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Man there's hardly anyone here.

Where the hype at yo?

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I'm waiting for reviews and hoping thats the kind of stuff that ignites these hype threads around here. If it doesnt work i'm gonna have to use my l33t skills and derail this thread again :P
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#376 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]If i had to guess, I'd say that SMG2 wont begetting a 9 here. They will praise the game like every other site has so far, then keep it below the 9.0 mark for being a sequel.thom_maytees

They could still give it a 9.0. Besides this doesn't look like a "more of the same" sequel at all :)

The fact the developers created new stages and features (more than 90%) that did not appear in the original Galaxy would negate the fact that it is "more of the same." This is not Super Mario Galaxy 1.5, and the developers had put more than two years of effort into Galaxy 2.

I know it's not more of the same, maybe you misread my post?
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#377 Thunderdrone
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Okay so, here's what i've managed to gather from Gameinformer's review:

+ "Delivers rock solid, clever and extremelly challenging platforming"


+ "This looks good enough to make me wish the Wii could output true HD"


+ Review states that there are 'over 240 stars' to obtain


- It took the reviewer no less than 4 hours to grab one star, which frustrated him.


- Some motion controls are suposedly "extremely poor". According to some magazine readers the terrible controls he speaks of are the ball rolling segments also found in SMG1.

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#378 Meinhard1
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I don't see what the GI reviewer has against the ball rolling segments. They worked just fine in SMG1
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#379 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]I don't see what the GI reviewer has against the ball rolling segments. They worked just fine in SMG1

Its like I said earlier about places not having enough Wii coverage. Most places don't play the Wii often so if it doesn't work in the first 5 minutes then they blame the controls or call them poor, when they actually aren't. The controls were never an issue in the first game, like you said.
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#380 h575309
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^^ Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll:

They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

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#381 Willy105
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^^ Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll:

They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

h575309
Game Informer and scores have no meaning, especially when combined together.
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#382 haziqonfire
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^^ Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll:

They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

h575309
I'm not complaining -- I'm just saying a lot of complaints Wii games get (not SMG2 specifically, but in general) aren't even issues. It's because those people in general don't play the Wii much. Like I said, the ball rolling stuff in SMG was never an issue and the complaint about it taking 4 hours to get a star might be a negative to the reviewer and thats fine .. to me it's not a complaint and it's actually a good thing.
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#383 h575309
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="h575309"]

^^ Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll:

They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

Game Informer and scores have no meaning, especially when combined together.

Yet its happily put in there at the top of the hype thread as a positive score.....
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#384 h575309
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="h575309"]

^^ Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll:

They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

I'm not complaining -- I'm just saying a lot of complaints Wii games get (not SMG2 specifically, but in general) aren't even issues. It's because those people in general don't play the Wii much. Like I said, the ball rolling stuff in SMG was never an issue and the complaint about it taking 4 hours to get a star might be a negative to the reviewer and thats fine .. to me it's not a complaint and it's actually a good thing.

Well since none of us have played it, I think its wrong to start assuming that SMG ball rolling = SMG2 ball rolling. They did say they were making the game harder, and maybe some of the ball rolling stuff is frustrating and annoying. How are we to know?
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#385 LegendofNerd
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="h575309"]

^^ Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll:

They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

h575309

Game Informer and scores have no meaning, especially when combined together.

Yet its happily put in there at the top of the hype thread as a positive score.....

When there's only a couple of reviews out atm, you make due with what you have.

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#386 jg4xchamp
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Easier levels can mitigate a control issue. Assuming for a second that some of the ball levels got more challenging. It could have an impact on the players perception of the controls for that segment. Maybe too much of it wasn't responsive or the level itself was rather frustrating more than rewarding/satisfying. Personally I thought the controls for SMG were perfect, as for other Wii games. I would disagree with haziq completely. There are plenty of games that get knocked for questionable control schemes that deserve it.
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#387 h575309
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Completely off the current train of thought but, is Gamestop doing a midnight launch for this game?

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#388 haziqonfire
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Well since none of us have played it, I think its wrong to start assuming that SMG ball rolling = SMG2 ball rolling. They did say they were making the game harder, and maybe some of the ball rolling stuff is frustrating and annoying. How are we to know?h575309

I doubt it'd be different, if anything like you said the game is harder, so the levels are probably more difficult, not the actual control mechanic being different, which again is fine.

Personally I thought the controls for SMG were perfect, as for other Wii games. I would disagree with haziq completely. There are plenty of games that get knocked for questionable control schemes that deserve it. jg4xchamp

Oh no, a lot of Wii games that get docked marks for poor controls deserve it -- What I was referring to we're games that I thought the controls were a non-issue but some reviewers thought they were terrible.

The thing with motion controls is that a lot of games do it poorly and a lot can pull it off well. More often the case is they turn out bad.

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#389 Thunderdrone
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Easier levels can mitigate a control issue. Assuming for a second that some of the ball levels got more challenging.jg4xchamp

Definitely, but if that's the case the problem here would be the level design, not the controls.

If they are exactly the same as those found in SMG then they are perfectly fine so i'm assuming that something changed control-wise to warrant the "horrible motion controls" comment from this reviewer.

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#390 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Easier levels can mitigate a control issue. Assuming for a second that some of the ball levels got more challenging.Thunderdrone

Definitely, but if that's the case the problem here would be the level design, not the controls.

If they are exactly the same as those found in SMG then they are perfectly fine so i'm assuming that something changed control-wise to warrant the "horrible motion controls" comment from this reviewer.

yes and no. I mean yes level design dictated the control complaint, but it might also be equal parts that during an easier level the lack of precision or lack of response from the controls went unnoticed. Again I doubt it, because I genuinly think Gameinformer sucks :P, but might be a valid point. Doesn't bother me either way. Super Mario Galaxy had it's fair share of bad levels here and there, but the godly levels made up for in spades. That Manta Ray surfing level is still awesome. So simple, tons of fun, highly replayable for the fun :D
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#391 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="h575309"]Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll: They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

it seems weird that no one complained about the ball rolling segments in the first game...so why now?
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#392 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="h575309"]Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll: They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?Shinobishyguy
it seems weird that no one complained about the ball rolling segments in the first game...so why now?

I know some gamers complaigned about it but not any reviewers I loved the Ball Rolling segments of the game but they were always the most challenging but they were also my favorites.

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#393 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="h575309"]Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll: They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?

it seems weird that no one complained about the ball rolling segments in the first game...so why now?

I wasn't mad about them... They weren't bad but they seemed unnecessary...
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#394 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="h575309"]Wow the guy cant have any complaints about the game? :roll: They gave it a 9.25, that aint good enough for ya?locopatho
it seems weird that no one complained about the ball rolling segments in the first game...so why now?

I wasn't mad about them... They weren't bad but they seemed unnecessary...

either way I hope gs doesn't blow those stages out of proportion anduse that it dock it.

it's probably only like what? 1 or 2 stars?

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#396 h575309
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eh. i dont live in america but as far as i understand it gameinformer is the worst magazine you guys have it's a front for a terrible videogame retailer (gamestop) and they're as corrupt/retarded as they come. an 8.5 for lost planet 2? a 7 for monster hunter? seriously? poorly written brochures for little kidsbenbeckman
They get some nice exclusive previews, but yes, the reviews are pretty heinous.
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#397 Thunderdrone
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Speaking of GI, here's one of the worst reviews ever written....ever!


Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

GAMINFORMER: "The art and combat are killed in their tracks by the game's downright shameful dialogue" 60%

Lowest review in Gamerankings

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#398 jg4xchamp
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Oh god I remember this. They had the nerve to knock Thousand Year Door, but they like the dreadfully boring Super Paper Mario ugh. Such bad taste. It's like a magazine run entirely by Jandurin :P
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#399 kontejner44
Member since 2006 • 2025 Posts

Wow that sounds so Wii-casual to me. 4 hours is not realistic, it's the reviewer not being used to the controls. Try giving the Wii controler setup in a game that uses IR / motion to someone whos a gamer but have not touched the Wii and you'll see. I recently played some SMG and actually played a ball level. It was easy, I collected coins / extras just to make it challenging lol it works fine. It's Nintendo, which means the controls are either as good in SMG2 as in 1, or better, not worse, unless there's framerate issues which I doubt are significant enough to cause this. I'm just surprised that the score is so high, despite "faulty / frustrating controls", awesome. It would be a shame to give this a 9.0 GS.

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#400 Thunderdrone
Member since 2009 • 7154 Posts

Hey, i like SPM D:

Anyhoo, heres another good one...

Silent Hill Shattered Memories

GAMEINFORMER: "Shattered Memories' frustrating control flaws and dull pacing make it a hard game to recommend.(...)Mysterious calls require you to lift the Wii remote to your face like an idiot, effectively annoying anyone in the room with the noises its tinny speaker produces"60%