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#1 FantasyGamer
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The Order 1886 vs Ryse Son of Rome which have better graphics?

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#2 lundy86_4
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Does it matter, when they're both kinda shit?

Well, i'll go with Ryse Son of Rome, as I preferred it over the odd aspect ratio, and blurry graphics of The Order, though both look great.

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#3  Edited By inggrish
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Provided you're referring to the console version of Ryse, then I'm gonna say it's a draw on a technical level, and on a preference level. Pc version of Ryse pulls ahead though

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#4 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I always liked how Ryse looked better. Bear in mind I have played neither game (natively).

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#5  Edited By freedomfreak
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Ryse, easily.

edit: Oh, graphics. Yeah, I'll still pick Ryse.

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#6  Edited By suicidesn0wman
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Honestly I liked both games, graphically I'd say they're fairly close in quality, however The Order is a little more diverse in gameplay, so I'll use that as the tie breaker.

I'd also recommend both, most the people who hate on the games never played them.

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#7 QuadKnight
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The Order 1886

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#8 intotheminx
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Ryse. Its worth 6 bucks.

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#9  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@quadknight said:

The Order 1886

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#10 raugutcon
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Well, I don't give a damn about friggin´ graphics when both games are shit and I´m not going to play them just because they look pretty.

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#11  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Havnet played Ryse so I cant comment but I had some fun with the order and didnt thought it was as bad as people made it out to be

edit: oh, if you mean graphically then Ryse 4k (PC) > The Order > Ryse X1

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#12 MortalDecayX
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Both games suck so bad. I don't care how good the graphics are. One game is a poor God Of War rip off and the other is a poor Gears of War rip off.

However in the graphics department, The Order 1886 wins. The amount of detail in that game is amazing. I wish they would have spent as much time on the gameplay, as they did on the details.

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That's one creepy video.

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#14 the_master_race
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Ryse Son of Rome -PC-

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@lundy86_4:

Blurrines in the Order? Game has one of the best and clean image quality.

I played Ryse on PC in higher settings than Xbone version ( higher res, better AA, sharper textures, better shadows, better framerate etc...)

The Order has better graphics. Period!

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#16  Edited By NyaDC
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@imt558 said:

@lundy86_4:

Blurrines in the Order? Game has one of the best and clean image quality.

No it doesn't, the game is extremely blurry at all times, there's literally no contesting this, it's as plain as day. These screen caps are taken from a state of zero movement, completely stationary, the game is blurry beyond belief...

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#17  Edited By blamix99
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Ryse PC>>>>The Order>>>>Ryse XB1

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#18  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Ryse, the order is disgustingly blurry and I think Ryse has better details anyway. Not only that but the would be 1080p vs 900 doesn't come into play because the order isn't really 1080p.

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#19 speedfog
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Black Bars 1886 vs Ryse The Turd of Rome? Easily Ryse.

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#20 hrt_rulz01
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Graphically, yeah probably Ryse... and I actually didn't mind the game either.

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#21 NyaDC
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Graphically, yeah probably Ryse... and I actually didn't mind the game either.

It wasn't a horrible game, it was just a very generic Roman story, I don't see why it got panned as hard as it did.

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#22 hrt_rulz01
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@nyadc said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Graphically, yeah probably Ryse... and I actually didn't mind the game either.

It wasn't a horrible game, it was just a very generic Roman story, I don't see why it got panned as hard as it did.

Yeah it certainly wasn't anything special... but I enjoyed the story and combat enough. I think it's worth a play-through if you get it cheap.

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#23 Ross_the_Boss6
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That was such an odd video.

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#24  Edited By NyaDC
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@Ross_the_Boss6 said:

That was such an odd video.

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#25  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:
@imt558 said:

@lundy86_4:

Blurrines in the Order? Game has one of the best and clean image quality.

No it doesn't, the game is extremely blurry at all times, there's literally no contesting this, it's as plain as day. These screen caps are taken from a state of zero movement, completely stationary, the game is blurry beyond belief...

All right, lem. So you posted a compressed image with lower resolution. Definition of blurriness by some Xboner. How about this one ( it's not even a photomode where you can turn off movie filter ) :

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#26  Edited By NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:
@imt558 said:

@lundy86_4:

Blurrines in the Order? Game has one of the best and clean image quality.

No it doesn't, the game is extremely blurry at all times, there's literally no contesting this, it's as plain as day. These screen caps are taken from a state of zero movement, completely stationary, the game is blurry beyond belief...

All right, lem. So you posted a compressed image with lower resolution. Definition of blurriness by some Xboner. How about this one ( it's not even a photomode where you can turn off movie filter ) :

Literally every image you posted is suffering from this same blurry image quality because THE GAME IS BLURRY, you don't seem to understand what you're trying to discuss here...

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#27 General_Solo76
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Funnily enough, I was just playing Ryse today! I gotta say, it's not looking as good as I remember playing it the first time. It's not even the best looking Xbox One game anymore, let alone being as fantastic visually as The Order.

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#28  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:

Literally every image you posted is suffering from this same blurry image quality because THE GAME IS BLURRY, you don't seem to understand what you're trying to discuss here...

Oh yeah, sure it is. Or maybe your eyes barely have seen a proper 1080p game on Xbone. Sorry, dude, The Order is not blurry. You posted a worse shots with worse quality image than i am. It's not even a proper jpg compression. Btw., .jpg compress the image quality as hell. :

Here are the proper links ( and maybe you didn't noticed what i wrote i previous post : it's not even a photomode where you can turn off MOVIE FILTER :

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_20151229cqey.png

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122lyp31.png

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122myof1.png

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#29  Edited By lamprey263
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Graphically, I'd say they both appear equal in quality, I probably share an equal amount of interest in playing either as well; that is, maybe one day, but I'm in no hurry.

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#30 Ribstaylor1
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Played Ryse on the pc at 1440p and It wins out. Not that great a game but as far as looks go it destroys The order 1866

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#31 lundy86_4
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@imt558: Yeah, it's blurry.

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#32 General_Solo76
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@ribstaylor1: I assumed he was talking about the X1 version. Never played Ryse on the PC, but The Order is head and shoulders above the X1 version visually speaking

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#33 NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

Literally every image you posted is suffering from this same blurry image quality because THE GAME IS BLURRY, you don't seem to understand what you're trying to discuss here...

Oh yeah, sure it is. Or maybe your eyes barely have seen a proper 1080p game on Xbone. Sorry, dude, The Order is not blurry. You posted a worse shots with worse quality image than i am. It's not even a proper jpg compression. Btw., .jpg compress the image quality as hell. :

Here are the proper links ( and maybe you didn't noticed what i wrote i previous post : it's not even a photomode where you can turn off MOVIE FILTER :

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_20151229cqey.png

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122lyp31.png

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122myof1.png

@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: Yeah, it's blurry.

^^^

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#34 drinkerofjuice
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Ryse. It's a beautiful game. It is also a terrible one.

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#35  Edited By imt558
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@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: Yeah, it's blurry.

It's not. You can't said that some game is blurry because movie filter. That's dumb logic on lems level.

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@imt558: There is an overall image blur, and it's a detracting quality. The game still looks good, but denying there isn't excessive DoF/image blurring in effect, is just asinine.

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#37  Edited By gago-gago
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The Odor 1886 isn't really a game so Ryse get extra points for having great graphics. Ryse is better to play too but that's not saying much.

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@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: There is an overall image blur, and it's a detracting quality. The game still looks good, but denying there isn't excessive DoF/image blurring in effect, is just asinine.

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Ryse

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#40  Edited By imt558
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@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: There is an overall image blur, and it's a detracting quality. The game still looks good, but denying there isn't excessive DoF/image blurring in effect, is just asinine.

I'm not denying anything. But there are 2 terms of blurriness, which that lem, NyaDC, can't understand. Blurriness caused by DOF, blurriness caused by lower resolution. The Order has an excellent image quality with proper usage of DOF. Maybe you don't like DOF, but saying that game is blurry because DOF is just fuc**** dumb. Ryse has a great Bokeh DOF. MGS V has great amount of DOF ( more than The Order ) and nobody said that game is blurry.

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@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: There is an overall image blur, and it's a detracting quality. The game still looks good, but denying there isn't excessive DoF/image blurring in effect, is just asinine.

Got a problem, dude?

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@imt558: You literally just said that it's not blurry, and then spoke about a movie filter, which is what exactly? Are you talking general motion blur?

It uses excessive DoF, and it's likely an attempt to give the image a higher-quality movie type look. However, it just ends up detracting from the overall quality of the image. Still a great looking game, there's no contesting it. Though the aspect ratio decision is just dumb as shit... Though it does allow clipping of the rendered image.

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#42  Edited By NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: There is an overall image blur, and it's a detracting quality. The game still looks good, but denying there isn't excessive DoF/image blurring in effect, is just asinine.

I'm not denying anything. But there are 2 blurriness terms which that lem, NyaDC, can't understand. Blurriness caused by DOF, blurriness caused by lower resolution. The Order has an excellent image quality with proper usage of DOF. Maybe you don't like DOF, but saying that game is blurry because DOF is just fuc**** dumb.

@nyadc said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: There is an overall image blur, and it's a detracting quality. The game still looks good, but denying there isn't excessive DoF/image blurring in effect, is just asinine.

Got a problem, dude?

The game has a post-process filter placed over the entire screen which blurs everything in sight, this isn't even about the depth of field, that adds even more blur on top of this plus the excessive motion blur, this isn't an attack, this isn't some 'lem' motivated anything and I'm not saying the game looks bad. You're being an idiot right now trying to rationalize what is by all accounts a stupid development decision that destroys image quality and definition in what is being rendered. It's not clear, it's not crisp, it's blurry, everything is blurry, because it's inherently designed with post processing muddying up the final image output.

Stop being "that guy" right now, you're not getting anywhere trying to delusionally rationalize this, the game on the whole is very blurry, anyone with functional eyes can see that, it is what it is, move on with your life.

Do you even own this game? I severely doubt it...

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@lundy86_4 said:

@imt558: You literally just said that it's not blurry, and then spoke about a movie filter, which is what exactly? Are you talking general motion blur?

It uses excessive DoF, and it's likely an attempt to give the image a higher-quality movie type look. However, it just ends up detracting from the overall quality of the image. Still a great looking game, there's no contesting it. Though the aspect ratio decision is just dumb as shit... Though it does allow clipping of the rendered image.

Yes, i said that game is not blurry and i think that DOF usage is not excessive. And i don't call some a game is blurry because DOF usage or movie filter usage. DOF has its uses in games. And yes, i'm talking about motion blur.

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@imt558: You think the image blur isn't excessive, and I do. It seems we'll have to agree to disagree.

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#45  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:

The game has a post-process filter placed over the entire screen which blurs everything in sight, this isn't even about the depth of field, that adds even more blur on top of this plus the excessive motion blur, this isn't an attack, this isn't some 'lem' motivated anything and I'm not saying the game looks bad. You're being an idiot right now trying to rationalize what is by all accounts a stupid development decision that destroys image quality and definition in what is being rendered. It's not clear, it's not crisp, it's blurry, everything is blurry, because it's inherently designed with post processing muddying up the final image output.

Stop being "that guy" right now, you're not getting anywhere trying to delusionally rationalize this, the game on the whole is very blurry, anyone with functional eyes can see that, it is what it is, move on with your life.

Do you even own this game? I severely doubt it...

You're an idiot, dude. Yes, i own the game. But do you even own a PS4? I doubt it.

This is not blurry :

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122lyp31.png

This is motion blur :

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122guony.png

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#46  Edited By NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

The game has a post-process filter placed over the entire screen which blurs everything in sight, this isn't even about the depth of field, that adds even more blur on top of this plus the excessive motion blur, this isn't an attack, this isn't some 'lem' motivated anything and I'm not saying the game looks bad. You're being an idiot right now trying to rationalize what is by all accounts a stupid development decision that destroys image quality and definition in what is being rendered. It's not clear, it's not crisp, it's blurry, everything is blurry, because it's inherently designed with post processing muddying up the final image output.

Stop being "that guy" right now, you're not getting anywhere trying to delusionally rationalize this, the game on the whole is very blurry, anyone with functional eyes can see that, it is what it is, move on with your life.

Do you even own this game? I severely doubt it...

You're an idiot, dude. Yes, i own the game. But do you even own a PS4? I doubt it.

This is not blurry :

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122lyp31.png

This is motion blur :

http://abload.de/img/theorder_1886_2015122guony.png

Yes, that first image is blurry, you don't seem to understand what you're seeing or talking about here, there is a post process filter over the entire image throughout the entire game. It's not motion blur, it's not depth of field, although those make everything worse, they're not what I am talking about. It's a post process filter, one that adds a slight blur to the entire image, nothing looks crisp, nothing looks sharp, definition is lost, everything is slightly blurry regardless of scenario or what you're doing, it's a filter...

Of course I own a PlayStation 4...

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The Order.

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#48 imt558
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@nyadc said:

Yes, that first image is blurry, you don't seem to understand what you're seeing or talking about here, there is a post process filter over the entire image throughout the entire game. It's not motion blur, it's not depth of field, although those make everything worse, they're not what I am talking about. It's a post process filter, one that adds a slight blur to the entire image, nothing looks crisp, nothing looks sharp, everything is slightly blurry regardless of scenario or what you're doing, it's a filter...

It's not motion blur, it's not DOF. Which "post process" filter is then?

This is blurry IQ caused by low res in another game on Xbone ( even The Order has way better image quality )

http://abload.de/img/jpgowrlx.jpg

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#49 NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

Yes, that first image is blurry, you don't seem to understand what you're seeing or talking about here, there is a post process filter over the entire image throughout the entire game. It's not motion blur, it's not depth of field, although those make everything worse, they're not what I am talking about. It's a post process filter, one that adds a slight blur to the entire image, nothing looks crisp, nothing looks sharp, everything is slightly blurry regardless of scenario or what you're doing, it's a filter...

It's not motion blur, it's not DOF. Which "post process" filter is then?

This is blurry IQ caused by low res in another game on Xbone ( even The Order has way better image quality )

http://abload.de/img/jpgowrlx.jpg

It's nearly the same type of filter which is present in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, albeit implemented in The Order to a more dramatic level.

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#50  Edited By GarGx1
Member since 2011 • 10934 Posts

Ryse, easily, especially on PC. The Order would have incredible graphics if it didn't have post processing Vaseline smeared all over it.