The PC is the superior gaming platform - Definitive Edition

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#1001  Edited By Cranler
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:
@mikhail said:

You know what's annoying? People like you who get involved in discussions they know absolutely nothing about. And you don't have to build your own PC - there are well known, reputable sites that will help you choose hardware and build any PC you wish for $50.

No one ever said $5 anything or claimed to run Star Citizen at 4k, or any game at 4k for that matter. "Triple uber buffering" and "specular shadow light" don't even exist. You are way out of your depth here, Huggles.

I'm done....

So yeah....you win.

10 minutes later:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@mikhail said:

@mr_huggles_dog: You said you were done yesterday, but here you are. Now put your money where your mouth is and disappear, troll.

Oh no....I didn't mean ...

LOL. Garbage troll.

**** man....if you and the others on this board didn't whine about everyone being a troll every 2 seconds I'd give a ****.

But since you can't understand it...I meant I was done arguing with him for for a while.

You guys really do give yourself too much credit.

They usually have no counterpoint so they resort to calling anyone who sees things differently a troll.

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#1002 Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

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#1003  Edited By BldgIrsh
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The pyramids are huge!

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#1004  Edited By Cranler
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@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

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#1005 Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

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#1006 Cranler
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@bldgirsh said:

The pyramids are huge!

CAIRO, EGYPT - THE ANCIENT PYRAMIDS ARE UPSIDE DOWN! THAT STARTLING CONCLUSION COMES FROM A RESPECTED ARCHAEOLOGIST WHO HAS UNEARTHED ANCIENT DRAWINGS SHOWING THE PYRAMIDS IN THEIR ORIGINAL FORM - CAREFULLY BALANCED ON THEIR TIPS.

IT IS OBVIOUS FROM THE DRAWINGS I'VE FOUND THAT THE PYRAMIDS WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT WITH TINY BASES AND LARGE, FLAT TOPS, SCIENTIST ABDEL GALLAD TOLD REPORTERS. THESE DRAWINGS ARE AT LEAST 300 YEARS OLDER THAN ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN FOUND BEFORE.

BUT EVEN MORE AMAZING IS DR. GALLAD'S THEORY THAT THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT TO SERVE AS LANDING PADS FOR ALIEN SPACESHIPS.

IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THE ALIENS VISITED EARTH - AND SPECIFICALLY EGYPT - 4,500 YEARS AGO, AROUND 2500 B.C., HE SAID. IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT ALIENS HAD THE PYRAMIDS BUILT THIS WAY SO THEY COULD HAVE WIDE,FLAT LANDING AREAS HIGH ABOVE THE DESERT SAND.

I AM AFRAID THE ALIENS AND EGYPTIANS DID NOT HAVE A FRIENDLY RELATIONSHIP, DR. GALLAD SAID. ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT THE ALIENS USED THE EGYPTIANS AS SLAVES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.

I SPECULATE THAT THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT WITH THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE BASES IN ORDER TO SAVE ON THE AMOUNT OF STONE USED IN THE STRUCTURE. HOW THE BUILDERS BALANCED THEM ON THE TIPS IS A MYSTERY WE CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND.

DR. GALLAD'S THEORY ALSO EXPLAINS HOW THE PYRAMIDS ENDED UP AS THEY APPEAR TODAY.

WHEN THE ALIENS WERE FINISHED WITH EARTH THEY SIMPLY FLIPPED THE PYRAMIDS UPSIDE DOWN TO THE WAY THEY ARE NOW, GALLAD EXPLAINED. THE ALIENS WERE LEAVING OUR PLANET AND MUST HAVE FIGURED THE ANGRY EGYPTIANS WOULD SOMEDAY SEEK REVENGE.

THEY DIDN'T WANT THE EGYPTIANS TO HAVE THE PYRAMIDS AS LAUNCHING PADS FOR THEIR OWN UFOS.

TURNING THESE GIGANTIC PYRAMIDS UPSIDE DOWN SURELY REQUIRED ALL THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY THE ALIENS COULD MUSTER. I HAVE TO BELIEVE THEIR ENTIRE FLEET OF SPACESHIPS WAS ON EARTH AT ONE TIME IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE KIND OF POWER NECESSARY TO TURN THE PYRAMIDS OVER. AS FARFETCHED AS DR. GALLAD'S THEORIES MIGHT SOUND, THEY ARE DRAWING MUCH SUPPORT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.

THERE HAVE LONG BEEN WHISPERS AMONG ARCHAEOLOGISTS THAT THE PYRAMIDS ARE UPSIDE DOWN, SAID EUROPEAN SCIENTIST ALEX MARMAN.

NOW THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT WE MUST LOOK FOR EXPLANATIONS. IT IS ENTIRELY ACCEPTABLE TO ME TO THINK ALIENS PLAYED A ROLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PYRAMIDS AND BUILT THEM TO SERVE THEIR OWN PURPOSES. DR. GALLAD IS CURRENTLY SOLICITING FUNDS IN HIS EFFORT TO TURN AT LEAST TWO OF THE THREE GREAT PYRAMIDS ONTO THEIR POINTS AGAIN. IF WE COULD SEE WHAT IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THESE PYRAMIDS IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF MY THEORIES. I AM CERTAIN THERE WOULD BE EVIDENCE OF UFO LANDINGS AND TAKEOFFS.

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@Cranler: I've learned this from spanish already... no need for another biology lesson.

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#1008 Cranler
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@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

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#1009 RoboCopISJesus
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@Cranler said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:
@mikhail said:

You know what's annoying? People like you who get involved in discussions they know absolutely nothing about. And you don't have to build your own PC - there are well known, reputable sites that will help you choose hardware and build any PC you wish for $50.

No one ever said $5 anything or claimed to run Star Citizen at 4k, or any game at 4k for that matter. "Triple uber buffering" and "specular shadow light" don't even exist. You are way out of your depth here, Huggles.

I'm done....

So yeah....you win.

10 minutes later:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@mikhail said:

@mr_huggles_dog: You said you were done yesterday, but here you are. Now put your money where your mouth is and disappear, troll.

Oh no....I didn't mean ...

LOL. Garbage troll.

**** man....if you and the others on this board didn't whine about everyone being a troll every 2 seconds I'd give a ****.

But since you can't understand it...I meant I was done arguing with him for for a while.

You guys really do give yourself too much credit.

They usually have no counterpoint so they resort to calling anyone who sees things differently a troll.

Saying huggles isn't a troll......now you're just rubbing it in our faces.

I liked the subtle Cranler trolling better.

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#1010  Edited By Snugenz
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@Snugenz said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Snugenz said:

So you admit that a console is an inferior gaming platform compared to the PC?

How you came to that conclusion is beyond me..

It's very simple really (i thought even you could follow, guess i gave you way too much credit), you said it's only fair to compare two consoles to one PC, in other words, you need two consoles to match a PC. So what you've basically admitted to is that one console doesn't compared to the PC.

Whatever happened to the (somewhat) intelligent trolls in SW, now all we got are these dumbasses smh...

Thats just stupid so I'm done with you.

You're the one who said it, you dumbass, no point trying to pass off your (below) stupidity onto me.

@mr_huggles_dog said:

Since a decent PC will run you the same amount as 2 major consoles...I feel it's fitting to include more than 1 console in the "CONSOLE vs PC" debate.

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#1011  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Cranler: lol hope you know that Jedi's GTX 460, while may lack the Vram, It has a higher pixel rate, and ever so slightly less texture rate. So its on par with the X1's gpu which is sad how slow it is when comparing a mid ranged card from 2010. Then Bioshock 1&2 ran on Unreal 2.5 which used many of the features from Unreal engine 3. So why are you asking how well 2003-2005 gpu's ran the game when it didnt come out until 2007 let alone knowing the fact that gpu's from pre 2006 were designed around a different era of gpu architecture.But besides the point the geforce 7800 series did run bioshock pretty well considering at 1280x1024 0xAA 16xAF, Medium Quality, High Textures, DX9 getting around 35 fps average.

All you are doing to moving goal posts and keep on looking back near a damn decade. Where everyone knows that the 360 was special in 2005 because MS spent a shit load on acquiring prototype tech that would become the standards on the horizon. But come back to the now , where these new consoles are no where near as fast ratio wise nor are they sporting new tech, but mid ranged hardware at best.

The 460 will probably cause a lot of stuttering on next gen games.

Lords Of The Fallen is the 2nd next gen mutiplat and the 460 is the min req. Won't be long before the min goes higher.

PS 3 doesn't have unified shader tech btw.

lol.... Lords Of The Fallen asks for gtx 560ti as recommended which is not that big of a jump in requirements. Then most gtx 560's only came with 1gb of Vram too so saying the 460 will stutter is such an uneducated guess when we have no idea how well the game will run to begin with. You have to take system requirements with a pitch of salt since there have been plenty of examples over suggesting.

While yes the PS3 didnt have a unified shader architecture gpu they did however use the SPE's to handle shader work for the gpu.

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#1012 Cranler
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@04dcarraher said:
@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Cranler: lol hope you know that Jedi's GTX 460, while may lack the Vram, It has a higher pixel rate, and ever so slightly less texture rate. So its on par with the X1's gpu which is sad how slow it is when comparing a mid ranged card from 2010. Then Bioshock 1&2 ran on Unreal 2.5 which used many of the features from Unreal engine 3. So why are you asking how well 2003-2005 gpu's ran the game when it didnt come out until 2007 let alone knowing the fact that gpu's from pre 2006 were designed around a different era of gpu architecture.But besides the point the geforce 7800 series did run bioshock pretty well considering at 1280x1024 0xAA 16xAF, Medium Quality, High Textures, DX9 getting around 35 fps average.

All you are doing to moving goal posts and keep on looking back near a damn decade. Where everyone knows that the 360 was special in 2005 because MS spent a shit load on acquiring prototype tech that would become the standards on the horizon. But come back to the now , where these new consoles are no where near as fast ratio wise nor are they sporting new tech, but mid ranged hardware at best.

The 460 will probably cause a lot of stuttering on next gen games.

Lords Of The Fallen is the 2nd next gen mutiplat and the 460 is the min req. Won't be long before the min goes higher.

PS 3 doesn't have unified shader tech btw.

lol.... Lords Of The Fallen asks for gtx 560ti as recommended which is not that big of a jump in requirements. Then most gtx 560's only came with 1gb of Vram too so saying the 460 will stutter is such an uneducated guess when we have no idea how well the game will run to begin with. You have to take system requirements with a pitch of salt since there have been plenty of examples over suggesting.

While yes the PS3 didnt have a unified shader architecture gpu they did however use the SPE's to handle shader work for the gpu.

Most multiplats over the last few years had a 512mb vram min req. Now we have games being built for consoles that have 15x more ram than the consoles that all the past multiplats were built for.

Low settings will soon require about 5x the pc. No more 8600gt as the min req that we saw for years.

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#1013  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

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#1014 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Snugenz said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:
@Snugenz said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Snugenz said:

So you admit that a console is an inferior gaming platform compared to the PC?

How you came to that conclusion is beyond me..

It's very simple really (i thought even you could follow, guess i gave you way too much credit), you said it's only fair to compare two consoles to one PC, in other words, you need two consoles to match a PC. So what you've basically admitted to is that one console doesn't compared to the PC.

Whatever happened to the (somewhat) intelligent trolls in SW, now all we got are these dumbasses smh...

Thats just stupid so I'm done with you.

You're the one who said it, you dumbass, no point trying to pass off your (below) stupidity onto me.

@mr_huggles_dog said:

Since a decent PC will run you the same amount as 2 major consoles...I feel it's fitting to include more than 1 console in the "CONSOLE vs PC" debate.

How the **** do you get "PC is better" from just comparing cost?

Fucking unbelievable.

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@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

Hell no! I don't trust you. You think I found these steam and origin shots online? Prove it and find these pics.

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#1016  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:
@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Cranler: lol hope you know that Jedi's GTX 460, while may lack the Vram, It has a higher pixel rate, and ever so slightly less texture rate. So its on par with the X1's gpu which is sad how slow it is when comparing a mid ranged card from 2010. Then Bioshock 1&2 ran on Unreal 2.5 which used many of the features from Unreal engine 3. So why are you asking how well 2003-2005 gpu's ran the game when it didnt come out until 2007 let alone knowing the fact that gpu's from pre 2006 were designed around a different era of gpu architecture.But besides the point the geforce 7800 series did run bioshock pretty well considering at 1280x1024 0xAA 16xAF, Medium Quality, High Textures, DX9 getting around 35 fps average.

All you are doing to moving goal posts and keep on looking back near a damn decade. Where everyone knows that the 360 was special in 2005 because MS spent a shit load on acquiring prototype tech that would become the standards on the horizon. But come back to the now , where these new consoles are no where near as fast ratio wise nor are they sporting new tech, but mid ranged hardware at best.

The 460 will probably cause a lot of stuttering on next gen games.

Lords Of The Fallen is the 2nd next gen mutiplat and the 460 is the min req. Won't be long before the min goes higher.

PS 3 doesn't have unified shader tech btw.

lol.... Lords Of The Fallen asks for gtx 560ti as recommended which is not that big of a jump in requirements. Then most gtx 560's only came with 1gb of Vram too so saying the 460 will stutter is such an uneducated guess when we have no idea how well the game will run to begin with. You have to take system requirements with a pitch of salt since there have been plenty of examples over suggesting.

While yes the PS3 didnt have a unified shader architecture gpu they did however use the SPE's to handle shader work for the gpu.

Most multiplats over the last few years had a 512mb vram min req. Now we have games being built for consoles that have 15x more ram than the consoles that all the past multiplats were built for.

Low settings will soon require about 5x the pc. No more 8600gt as the min req that we saw for years.

lol 15x more ram? you might to troll harder, these consoles only have 2-3gb for vram so only 4-6x more also those newer multiplats are using features the 360.PS3 cant do

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#1017  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

Hell no! I don't trust you. You think I found these steam and origin shots online? Prove it and find these pics.

nice try peasant so you won't prove these screenshots are yours in any way? i guess it was obvious they weren't after all if you could play on a gaming pc you wouldn't be so butthurt about it. Sorry dear peasant, you lose.

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#1018  Edited By Cranler
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@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

Hell no! I don't trust you. You think I found these steam and origin shots online? Prove it and find these pics.

nice try peasant so you won't prove these screenshots are yours in any way? i guess it was obvious they weren't after all if you could play on a gaming pc you wouldn't be so butthurt about it. Sorry dear peasant, you lose.

Yet you still haven't proven you game on pc. Link your steam profile. You didn't see my gpu pic in the other thread?

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lol quote-chains,inb4ban and angry mods

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#1020  Edited By mikhail
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Seriously, stop with the ridiculously long quote trees. Take the two freaking seconds and edit them down for the sake of every person reading the topic.

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what y'all even arguing about now. All I see are quote trees

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#1022 lundy86_4
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Everyone else covered this, but clip your shitting quotes lol.

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#1023 Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:PC is a type of system. Consoles are a type of system. The Dell Inspiron is a system. Hope that helps.

In your opinion. Here at SW the rule here (or unwritten rule at almost any other forum) is that PC is 1 system. Xbox One is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system.

You get the drift.

You lose.

Then the rules are wrong. I've already proven why it's best to compare all consoles vs pc. All you can do is say "but the rules say such and such" because you have no proper counter.

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

@mikhail said:

Cranler going back ten years again! I love this topic.

The past can give insight into the future.

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

Hell no! I don't trust you. You think I found these steam and origin shots online? Prove it and find these pics.

nice try peasant so you won't prove these screenshots are yours in any way? i guess it was obvious they weren't after all if you could play on a gaming pc you wouldn't be so butthurt about it. Sorry dear peasant, you lose.

Yet you still haven't proven you game on pc. Link your steam profile. You didn't see my gpu pic in the other thread?

again where is your name on those pictures or whats your steam account?

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#1024 Cranler
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@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

Hell no! I don't trust you. You think I found these steam and origin shots online? Prove it and find these pics.

nice try peasant so you won't prove these screenshots are yours in any way? i guess it was obvious they weren't after all if you could play on a gaming pc you wouldn't be so butthurt about it. Sorry dear peasant, you lose.

Yet you still haven't proven you game on pc. Link your steam profile. You didn't see my gpu pic in the other thread?

again where is your name on those pictures or whats your steam account?

Look at the monitor, it's on system wars showing what I was about to post on an earlier page in this thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-pc-is-the-superior-gaming-platform-definitive--31486587/?page=14

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Cranler you can show us all the computers you want, PC is still 1 system here.

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#1026  Edited By MK-Professor
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21 pages full of butthurt peasants!

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#1027 Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:
@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@mikhail said:

@Cranler said:

Tell me why it's wrong to compare all GTA V console sales to all pc Diablo 3 sales. Convince me and I'll let it go.

Does the fact that McDonald's has sold billions of hamburgers worldwide make them restaurant known to man? Your argument is irrelevant. We're discussing which is the superior platform here. If you want to talk about which platform has sold the most copies of something, go start your own topic.

It makes them the most popular fast food restaurant known to man which is quite a feat. Obviously people find Mcdonalds to be better than it's competition.

Games typically sell better on console. Maybe it's because the pc is simply oversaturated with too many games to choose from.

Don't blame me, I didn't derail this thread.

@Krelian-co said:

You have proven nothing but the fact that you are a desperate consolite that acknowledges the fact that you need to sum all consoles to beat a single system, hence the superior system.

Can't give specific reasons why you should compare all of pc to one specific console can you? GTA V sold about 30 million copies on console, are you saying it would have only sold 15 million if the PS 3 didnt exist?

I play both console and pc.

can you play all console games in all consoles? if not then stfu already

Whats more expensive, a pc to run all multiplat games the entire gen or ps4 and xbone? $800 for two prebuilt consoles isn't that much.

well what's better mcdonalds or a 5 star restaurant?

consoles hardly run games at 900p and gen is just starting in a couple of years games will run like crap just like the difference between ps3/360 and a modern pc. Some people like to enjoy the better things even if they cost a bit more, some are used to mediocrity, but its alright my dear peasant.

So you're saying that a 2 console owning consolite will spend less than a pc gamer?

Why do you call me a peasant? I game on console and pc.

sure u do my dear peasant

Name calling is all you biased hermits do.

u can use paint wow, gz!

Lets see your pc games or are you another consolite who pretends to be a pc gamer?

Give me your account with proof that is you and i will add you. Otherwise nice paint skills peasant.

Hell no! I don't trust you. You think I found these steam and origin shots online? Prove it and find these pics.

nice try peasant so you won't prove these screenshots are yours in any way? i guess it was obvious they weren't after all if you could play on a gaming pc you wouldn't be so butthurt about it. Sorry dear peasant, you lose.

Yet you still haven't proven you game on pc. Link your steam profile. You didn't see my gpu pic in the other thread?

again where is your name on those pictures or whats your steam account?

Look at the monitor, it's on system wars showing what I was about to post on an earlier page in this thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-pc-is-the-superior-gaming-platform-definitive--31486587/?page=14

So you are saying you can't prove those photos are yours and that you can't take new ones?

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#1028 Mr_Huggles_dog
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I feel compelled to tell you both to be careful.

If I read the rules right you're not suppose to do quote trains.

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@MK-Professor said:

21 pages full of butthurt peasants!

lol

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#1030  Edited By topgunmv
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@Krelian-co:

Are you suggesting someone else typed out a post he made and took a picture of it with a 680 box in front for him?

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#1031  Edited By Cranler
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

Cranler you can show us all the computers you want, PC is still 1 system here.

You still haven't explained why we shouldn't compare all console sales to all pc sales. Don't tell me because it's the rules, tell my why it's the rule.

@topgunmv said:

@Krelian-co:

Are you suggesting someone else typed out a post he made and took a picture of it with a 680 box in front for him?

Krelian asks me to link my steam profile but he refuses to link his own.

@RoboCopISJesus said:

@MK-Professor said:

21 pages full of butthurt peasants!

lol

More like 21 pages of trying to teach rabid hermits about logic.

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#1032  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Cranler said:

@topgunmv said:

@Krelian-co:

Are you suggesting someone else typed out a post he made and took a picture of it with a 680 box in front for him?

Krelian asks me to link my steam profile but he refuses to link his own.

Are you telling me you can't take an updated photo with your name on those pc parts? Been a whole day avoiding it my dear peasant.

More like 21 pages of trying to teach rabid hermits about logic.

oh yeah 3 systems vs 1, dat logic!

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#1033  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

Cranler you can show us all the computers you want, PC is still 1 system here.

You still haven't explained why we shouldn't compare all console salesto all pc sales. Don't tell me because it's the rules, tell my why it's the rule.

Because PC is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system. XBOX ONE is 1 system.

Although, PC does seem to beat out all consoles combined in sales. Pretty great accomplishment.

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#1034 Cranler
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@Krelian-co said:

@Cranler said:

@topgunmv said:

@Krelian-co:

Are you suggesting someone else typed out a post he made and took a picture of it with a 680 box in front for him?

Krelian asks me to link my steam profile but he refuses to link his own.

Are you telling me you can't take an updated photo with your name on those pc parts? Been a whole day avoiding it my dear peasant.

More like 21 pages of trying to teach rabid hermits about logic.

oh yeah 3 systems vs 1, dat logic!

How would putting my name on those parts be any different than in front of a monitor showing a post I'm about to make?

More like millions of consolites splintered up between brand competition and gens.

So enlighten me on why we can't compare all console GTA 5 sales to the pc's best selling games.

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#1035  Edited By Cranler
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

@Cranler said:

@RoboCopISJesus said:

Cranler you can show us all the computers you want, PC is still 1 system here.

You still haven't explained why we shouldn't compare all console salesto all pc sales. Don't tell me because it's the rules, tell my why it's the rule.

Because PC is 1 system. PS4 is 1 system. XBOX ONE is 1 system.

Although, PC does seem to beat out all consoles combined in sales. Pretty great accomplishment.

PC is a system type, console is a system type.

GTA V sold 13 million copies in first 24 hours while pc's fastest selling game Diablo 3 sold a mere 3.5 million copies in the first 24 hours. This is why all the big budget publishers and devs decisions revolve around consoles.

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Laughed some more at the OP, especially the bit on controllers.

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#1037 mikhail
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@Heirren said:

Laughed some more at the OP, especially the bit on controllers.

What do you mean? It's 100% true.

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#1038 RoboCopISJesus
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The thread title.... Well its true.

My friend @Cranler is having difficulty naming 1 other system that has the same amount of aaa-aa rated games, sales, features, best version of most games (multiplats), competitive level.

@Cranler do you think PS4 or XBONE will come close or possibly top PC later this gen? Which one of those might do it?

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#1041  Edited By naz99
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Hooray here we go again cranler in yet another thread derailing it again by trying to convince everyone it is fair to compare 3 major systems against one, give it up mate the only one who believes that and sees sense in that utterly delusional logic is you,because for some reason you seem consumed for some/any type of ownage against pc gamers no matter how ridiculous the reasoning.

Can we please let this thread die it has been beaten to an inch of its life and left to the dogs

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#1042  Edited By Cranler
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

The thread title.... Well its true.

My friend @Cranler is having difficulty naming 1 other system that has the same amount of aaa-aa rated games, sales, features, best version of most games (multiplats), competitive level.

@Cranler do you think PS4 or XBONE will come close or possibly top PC later this gen? Which one of those might do it?

You really think most pc gamers would rather have Card Hunter, Starseed Pilgrim and Kentucky Route Zero Act 2 instead of the Last Of Us?

@farrell2k said:

My, God, the console kid butt hurt is of epic proportion in this thread, almost as bad as the massive amounts of butt hurt the console kids were displaying over the fact that $350 pc hardware was outperforming the PS4 and XB1. Wow...

Links

@naz99 said:

Hooray here we go again cranler in yet another thread derailing it again by trying to convince everyone it is fair to compare 3 major systems against one, give it up mate the only one who believes that and sees sense in that utterly delusional logic is you,because for some reason you seem consumed for some/any type of ownage against pc gamers no matter how ridiculous the reasoning.

Can we please let this thread die it has been beaten to an inch of its life and left to the dogs

So you're saying that if there were only one console brand that console revenue and exclusives would drop by 66%? That GTA 5 would have sold 16.5 million copies instead of 33 million copies if it were only on PS 3?

I didn't derail, I simply pointed out my disagreement with someones post.

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#1044  Edited By Cranler
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@farrell2k said:

@Cranler said:
@farrell2k said:

My, God, the console kid butt hurt is of epic proportion in this thread, almost as bad as the massive amounts of butt hurt the console kids were displaying over the fact that $350 pc hardware was outperforming the PS4 and XB1. Wow...

Links

This very thread!!!

Link to the page then.

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#1045 glez13
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@04dcarraher said:

@Cranler said:

Most multiplats over the last few years had a 512mb vram min req. Now we have games being built for consoles that have 15x more ram than the consoles that all the past multiplats were built for.

Low settings will soon require about 5x the pc. No more 8600gt as the min req that we saw for years.

lol 15x more ram? you might to troll harder, these consoles only have 2-3gb for vram so only 4-6x more also those newer multiplats are using features the 360.PS3 cant do

Last gen PS3 had 256mb VRAM and 360 had a max I don't remember but it was around 300mb. So if the new consoles can only use around 3gb VRAM it is still around 15x.

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#1046 Cranler
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@04dcarraher said:

@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:
@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Cranler: lol hope you know that Jedi's GTX 460, while may lack the Vram, It has a higher pixel rate, and ever so slightly less texture rate. So its on par with the X1's gpu which is sad how slow it is when comparing a mid ranged card from 2010. Then Bioshock 1&2 ran on Unreal 2.5 which used many of the features from Unreal engine 3. So why are you asking how well 2003-2005 gpu's ran the game when it didnt come out until 2007 let alone knowing the fact that gpu's from pre 2006 were designed around a different era of gpu architecture.But besides the point the geforce 7800 series did run bioshock pretty well considering at 1280x1024 0xAA 16xAF, Medium Quality, High Textures, DX9 getting around 35 fps average.

All you are doing to moving goal posts and keep on looking back near a damn decade. Where everyone knows that the 360 was special in 2005 because MS spent a shit load on acquiring prototype tech that would become the standards on the horizon. But come back to the now , where these new consoles are no where near as fast ratio wise nor are they sporting new tech, but mid ranged hardware at best.

The 460 will probably cause a lot of stuttering on next gen games.

Lords Of The Fallen is the 2nd next gen mutiplat and the 460 is the min req. Won't be long before the min goes higher.

PS 3 doesn't have unified shader tech btw.

lol.... Lords Of The Fallen asks for gtx 560ti as recommended which is not that big of a jump in requirements. Then most gtx 560's only came with 1gb of Vram too so saying the 460 will stutter is such an uneducated guess when we have no idea how well the game will run to begin with. You have to take system requirements with a pitch of salt since there have been plenty of examples over suggesting.

While yes the PS3 didnt have a unified shader architecture gpu they did however use the SPE's to handle shader work for the gpu.

Most multiplats over the last few years had a 512mb vram min req. Now we have games being built for consoles that have 15x more ram than the consoles that all the past multiplats were built for.

Low settings will soon require about 5x the pc. No more 8600gt as the min req that we saw for years.

lol 15x more ram? you might to troll harder, these consoles only have 2-3gb for vram so only 4-6x more also those newer multiplats are using features the 360.PS3 cant do

You speak as if the 360 used all 512 mb as vram.

Skyrim has a 512mb vram min req. What does skyrim do on low pc that the consoles don't?

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#1047 lostrib
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Holy shit dem quote chains

"Stop being lazy." --Cranler

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#1048  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Cranler said:

You speak as if the 360 used all 512 mb as vram.

Skyrim has a 512mb vram min req. What does skyrim do on low pc that the consoles don't?

Your an idiot or troll I dont know which.....maybe both? Because yes skyrim used all its available memory on the 360 all 512mb for both system and vram. Do you remember bethesda having one hell of a time trying to get dawnguard levels to run the PS3? It was because of its split memory pools its didnt have enough memory, and they had to trim things down to save memory. the 360 is able to allocate different amounts based on its needs, and to fact that the 360 looks better then the PS3 version means that its using more then 256mb.

Now do you have any idea how pc's store and process data vs like 360? guess not, because you would know that the 360 streams its data into the ram and when a new cell loads it dumps the old because of limited resources. On pc its does not stream the same way and needs to store most of the needed assets and keep its, hence one of the reasons why the game loads so much faster on pc vs the 360.

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#1049  Edited By glez13
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@Cranler said:

@04dcarraher said:

lol 15x more ram? you might to troll harder, these consoles only have 2-3gb for vram so only 4-6x more also those newer multiplats are using features the 360.PS3 cant do

You speak as if the 360 used all 512 mb as vram.

Skyrim has a 512mb vram min req. What does skyrim do on low pc that the consoles don't?

Skyrims minimum system requirement of 512mb is wrong since I could play the game on my 8800GTS 320mb with medium settings, sliders at middle,1080p, with fps around 30's with some dips in the 20's if I used medium textures(which is what the 360 mostly used), or with more constant dips in the 20's and even some down peaks in the 10's if I used high textures.

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#1050 04dcarraher
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@glez13 said:

Last gen PS3 had 256mb VRAM and 360 had a max I don't remember but it was around 300mb. So if the new consoles can only use around 3gb VRAM it is still around 15x.

He was talking about 8800GT 512mb memory buffer vs 8gb from these new consoles when in fact they will only use upto 3gb which is only 6x more.