The ps3 is overhyped around here

Don't worry lemmings. The roles were reversed a year ago and I'm sure they will be again.

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="ArchaoN"] All that means is that MS made a good decision coming out earlier than the PS3, and the Sony screwed up by giving MS that initiative. They underestimated one of the most successful businesses on the planet. When someone goes into Best Buy to buy a console and they are deciding between a 360 and a PS3 I don't think they are gonna say to themself, "Well the 360 came out a year earlier so I guess I'll cut the PS3 some slack and get one even though there are less games for it, and most of its quality exclusives are still full price."ArchaoN

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

I've come to this conclusion all by myself lol. What is so great about the ps3's exclusive games? It's overpriced. Uncharted, GOW all look pretty but are nothing revolutionary and aren't going to sell consoles. They've lost Final Fantasy as well as MG at this point. I can play gears on the 360 which is just as good as uncharted. Halo is just as good as killzone and more fun. Yay Ratchet. Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, Forza. Heavy Rain is overhyped and lacks gameplay elements and is another showpiece of a game that doesnt do anything that interesting. MAG another shooter that just jams mroe people running around not knwoing what they are doing into a game that isn't going to work. There really is nothing on the ps3 that is saying to me this is a game i have to have this console for. So i'm supposed to pay $400 for Uncharted which never was that good game to begin with, and GOW?

Generalmojo

KZ2 sales are not a success. If they put how much money sites say they did into the game, it's a huge failure

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mD-"] you don't have to explain that to me. You said that the games that are "hyped" (just because they are on GS forums doesn't make it overhyped everywhere, lol) sell poorly to the hype they get. I don't think that they sell poorly. It just looks like they don't sell that much when the Xbox 360 has big exclusives that end up selling 3 mil +. Killzone 2 having 1.7 mil sales or w/e it is successful for being released during this recession and not nearly as many people owning PS3s to play it on.mD-

How many copies did Halo sold?

[QUOTE="ArchaoN"][QUOTE="mD-"] you don't have to explain that to me. You said that the games that are "hyped" (just because they are on GS forums doesn't make it overhyped everywhere, lol) sell poorly to the hype they get. I don't think that they sell poorly. It just looks like they don't sell that much when the Xbox 360 has big exclusives that end up selling 3 mil +. Killzone 2 having 1.7 mil sales or w/e it is successful for being released during this recession and not nearly as many people owning PS3s to play it on.mD-

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 sales are not a success. If they put how much money sites say they did into the game, it's a huge failure. SragentThom

How many copies did Halo sold?

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 sales are not a success. If they put how much money sites say they did into the game, it's a huge failure. SragentThom

How many copies did Halo sold?

When Sony was pumping out videos like this; of course it is over hyped.

I can safely say with confidence most PS3 users have unrealistic expectations of the PS3s capability, most of which have probably forgotten how over hyped it was though.

AnnoyedDragon

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 sales are not a success. If they put how much money sites say they did into the game, it's a huge failure. nmaharg

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="ArchaoN"] What exactly were u trying to say then when you pointed out that the 360 came out a year earlier. We all know that...Whats your point?ArchaoN

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mD-"] They sold over 1.6 million during a RECESSION. I believe the game cost like 60 million to make total. It may not be a huge success, but by no means was it a huge failure. If it can sell 1.6 million during a recession on a console that's still relatively expensive to it's competitors, is it not reasonable to say that this game will probably have legs for a while because of an inevitable price cut and its popularity on PSN?Generalmojo

Recession didn't affect game sales. Bad excuse.nmaharg

The Sony and PS3 bashing around here is so funny. If the system is so overhyped,overrated,expensive,etc... then why do you people keep making threads about it? I dont like the 360 but I dont make threads about it every other day saying how much it sucks,is faulty,etc... I think alot of you people are just angry you cant afford a PS3. The system is very good at what it does. Multimedia,games,blu ray,etc.. The system is worth the money. If some of you people actually spent time with it you would know. But I guess it's just easier to bash something you probably only played at a store kiosk,cant afford,jealous of the games it's getting,etc... No amount of hate will stop others from buying the system. Sony launched this system to alot of hate and bashing. They have weathered the storm but have a ways to still go. The way the PS3 is rebounding is great. The sales may not be hot right now but that does not take away from how good a system it is. The PS3 was not overpriced to me and Im sure alot of other people. I get my full use out of it. HD tv,multimedia,blu ray,etc... The only thing I need next is a home theatre set up.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"] Recession = Less disposable income = less games purchased for your leisure :)

ArchaoN

[QUOTE="ArchaoN"][QUOTE="mD-"] I was explaining why the xbox 360's games (primarily it's big exclusives have higher sales). You said that the games on the PS3 that are "hyped" sell poorly to the hype they get. I was saying that just because the "hyped" games don't have xbox 360 exclusive sales, doesn't really mean the game poorly selling. There are more xbox 360 owners than ps3 owners. nmaharg

I beat MGS4 8 days ago. 6 days ago my PS3 was put on ebay. Not a bad system at all, just way over priced. I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES.

nmaharg

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

[QUOTE="ArchaoN"][QUOTE="mD-"] I was explaining why the xbox 360's games (primarily it's big exclusives have higher sales). You said that the games on the PS3 that are "hyped" sell poorly to the hype they get. I was saying that just because the "hyped" games don't have xbox 360 exclusive sales, doesn't really mean the game poorly selling. There are more xbox 360 owners than ps3 owners. nmaharg

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

I beat MGS4 8 days ago. 6 days ago my PS3 was put on ebay. Not a bad system at all, just way over priced. I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES.

finalfantasy94

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

[QUOTE="ArchaoN"][QUOTE="mD-"] I was explaining why the xbox 360's games (primarily it's big exclusives have higher sales). You said that the games on the PS3 that are "hyped" sell poorly to the hype they get. I was saying that just because the "hyped" games don't have xbox 360 exclusive sales, doesn't really mean the game poorly selling. There are more xbox 360 owners than ps3 owners. nmaharg

How do you know it wont have legs and just dissapear? Can I borrow your crystal ball please.

The Sony and PS3 bashing around here is so funny. If the system is so overhyped,overrated,expensive,etc... then why do you people keep making threads about it? I dont like the 360 but I dont make threads about it every other day saying how much it sucks,is faulty,etc... I think alot of you people are just angry you cant afford a PS3. The system is very good at what it does. Multimedia,games,blu ray,etc.. The system is worth the money. If some of you people actually spent time with it you would know. But I guess it's just easier to bash something you probably only played at a store kiosk,cant afford,jealous of the games it's getting,etc... No amount of hate will stop others from buying the system. Sony launched this system to alot of hate and bashing. They have weathered the storm but have a ways to still go. The way the PS3 is rebounding is great. The sales may not be hot right now but that does not take away from how good a system it is. The PS3 was not overpriced to me and Im sure alot of other people. I get my full use out of it. HD tv,multimedia,blu ray,etc... The only thing I need next is a home theatre set up.

coltsfan4ever

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26913280&tag=topics;title

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26912175&tag=topics;title

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26913124&tag=topics;title

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26904298&tag=topics;title

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26909853

Fail

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

I beat MGS4 8 days ago. 6 days ago my PS3 was put on ebay. Not a bad system at all, just way over priced. I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES.

nmaharg

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

I beat MGS4 8 days ago. 6 days ago my PS3 was put on ebay. Not a bad system at all, just way over priced. I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES.

nmaharg

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 have legs? You mean the game that got outsold by Halo 3 last month? The game that would be lucky to have 120k players in a week. I doubt it has legs, in fact I know it won't. The vast majority of the rabid sony fans who hyped the game don't like the game. nmaharg

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="ArchaoN"] If you think that is the only reason they have higher sales, then I gues we will have to agree to disagree. Even though have a higher install base helps the 360 games, it still doesn't explain the large difference in sales of quality exclusives if you ask me. When Halo3 came out 2 years ago the user base for the 360 couldn't have been much larger than the PS3's current install base (it may have been even smaller), yet its sales have dwarfed Killzone 2 (a game hyped for 4 years).finalfantasy94

How do you know it wont have legs and just dissapear? Can I borrow your crystal ball please.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

finalfantasy94

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mD-"] It's funny how you can't seem to use common sense. Your sony fanboys friends here on GameSpot forums don't represent the general consumers who look for a good FPS to play for their PS3. You say things like "I know it won't." You think that if that more people have a PS3 due to a price cut, this wouldn't give one of the best shooter on the PS3 legs?Generalmojo

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 have legs? You mean the game that got outsold by Halo 3 last month? The game that would be lucky to have 120k players in a week. I doubt it has legs, in fact I know it won't. The vast majority of the rabid sony fans who hyped the game don't like the game. nmaharg

Wait so your saying once MW2 comes out people will stop playing KZ2. That makes zero sense. Both shooters are different. People who are dieing for MW2 are playing MW1 or WAW.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

finalfantasy94

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

Yeah well if ps3 doesnt have the blu ray then how you expect to play ps3 games? All ps3 games are blu ray discs and because those disks are more powerful than a dual layer dvd then you can have better graphics. And for all the 360 fanboys, dont start complaining that the ps3 is hyped, in my opinion ps3 games are better than the 360 ones, if you love your online gaming and paying for play online games then stick with your 360, leave the ps3 owners alone.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Yet I have to pay extra for blu ray, and wifi and other BS that isn't need for straight gaming. Make that stuff optional and come out with a $200 system.nmaharg

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

It allows devs that do exclusives to take advantage of the space.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mD-"] It's funny how you can't seem to use common sense. Your sony fanboys friends here on GameSpot forums don't represent the general consumers who look for a good FPS to play for their PS3. You say things like "I know it won't." You think that if that more people have a PS3 due to a price cut, this wouldn't give one of the best shooter on the PS3 legs?finalfantasy94

Wait so your saying once MW2 comes out people will stop playing KZ2. That makes zero sense. Both shooters are different. People who are dieing for MW2 are playing MW1 or WAW.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

I beat MGS4 8 days ago. 6 days ago my PS3 was put on ebay. Not a bad system at all, just way over priced. I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES.

nmaharg

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Yet I have to pay extra for blu ray, and wifi and other BS that isn't need for straight gaming. Make that stuff optional and come out with a $200 system.nmaharg

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

*sticks head onto his mgs4 BD and examins it thouroughly* yep BluRay FTL!! 8)

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

finalfantasy94

It allows devs that do exclusives to take advantage of the space.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yea make blu ray optinal. Oh wait PS3 games run on blu ray disk. You basicly cant play your games then.

Generalmojo

*sticks head onto his mgs4 BD and examins it thouroughly* yep BluRay FTL!! 8)

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] One look at killzone.com a week after the release of KZ2 and you would no doubt agree with me. KZ2 will be dead online once MW2 hits.nmaharg

Wait so your saying once MW2 comes out people will stop playing KZ2. That makes zero sense. Both shooters are different. People who are dieing for MW2 are playing MW1 or WAW.

Yup and most equals 99% of the community. Jeez dude. Really a poor mans COD? Yes iv played both MW and KZ2 and I find KZ2 a much better experiance. Unless your one of those people who cry about the game not having super fast speed like COD.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

I dont get this comment. PS3 has games.

mD-

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Thats why I have the issue. Blu ray for games was unneeded and only added to the price of the console. Stupid move on sonys part.nmaharg

*sticks head onto his mgs4 BD and examins it thouroughly* yep BluRay FTL!! 8)

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"] Really?

*sticks head onto his mgs4 BD and examins it thouroughly* yep BluRay FTL!! 8)

Generalmojo

Really?

*sticks head onto his mgs4 BD and examins it thouroughly* yep BluRay FTL!! 8)

Generalmojo

You remind me of someone I argued with elsewhere, you're only interested in being told how much space a game uses; not why it uses that much space.

People like to point out games like Killzone 2 use 2GB per level as evidence for the 'need' for Blu-ray, but I have yet to have anyone explain to me what it is doing with all that space.

All I see is one the most graphically advanced games (Crysis) to date, the game with the biggest levels and highest resolution visuals, sits quite happily on a single DVD disk.

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Yet I have to pay extra for blu ray, and wifi and other BS that isn't need for straight gaming. Make that stuff optional and come out with a $200 system.nmaharg

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Yes because the human ear can hear the difference between uncompressed 7.1 audio and compressed 5.1 audio. Please.nmaharg