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#151 RR360DD
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If the PS2 were still selling in the millions then Sony wouldn't have phased it out. You guys really need to start using that brain before it totally goes to waste....

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It sold 4.1 million last fiscal year. So maybe use your own brain and do a little research ...
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#152 tormentos
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Which DOESNT CHANGE ANYTHING. LOL

They report IN MAY their financials for the past fiscal year. Last year, 63.9 million. This year, going by YOUR NUMBER (lol), its 76.3 million.

Basiclally I was asking if you had a point. Clearly you don't. So yeah, keep up the deflecting.

RR360DD

 

Are yo for real.?

Sure it changes,by the time the anouncement came in,sony was probably close to 65 million if not there already.

In fact now they have sold more than they announce on the fiscal report i posted,because it doesn't include anything from April and May.

 

http://gamer.blorge.com/2012/11/04/sony-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-and-wii-last-quarter-ps-vita-forecast-down/

 

Here dude Sony sold from July to September 3.5 million units notice how sony takes a month to report sale ms is much faster,that means that at the end on June there were on 66.5 million units,funny enough MS anounce 66 million units on June 2012..

 

They were neck and neck on 2012,and on this first qarter the PS3 just ran over the 360.

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#153 shawn30
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So sales matter now?

If the PS3 had actually outsold the 360 we would know. Sony would be falling over themselves bragging about it. Instead we get crickets from their PR department, and combined PS2 and PS3 numbers from their finance department. It's pretty definite that the PS3 is still sitting firmly in 3rd place. Not that it really matters to anyone but the hardest of the hardcore fanboys anyway.

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This. I don't care how cows try to spin it, if Sony knew for sure they had passed the 360 in overall world wide sales there would be a press release touting that fact. No other company in any industry, if they passed their rival/competitor would silently let that news pass by. That's silly and dumb. Sony knows they are in last place still. Examples: Samsung touting superior sales to Apple - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11806783/1/ces-samsung-touts-tvs-takes-shots-at-apple.html http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gm-reclaims-global-car-sales-leader-toyota/story?id=15287423#.UYuvSVcUGy0 "Apple is making all the right moves to rebuild its dominant position in the tablet space," said Rhoda Alexander, iSuppli's director of tablet and monitor research, in an emailed statement. "With the expected entrance of the 7-inch version of the iPad in September, Apple is sending a clear message that it plans to dominate this market over the long term." - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230283/Apple_reclaims_tablet_supremacy_with_70_share_in_Q2 When companies leap frog the competition they tell people about it. Sony hasn't flat out said it and they won't, because they are still in last place. It only counts as bragging rights, lol. But facts are facts. Corporate business is a cut throat industry and you want to dismantle, crush, and beat down your competition. And if you do that you tell people about it, lol. Doesn't put a dollar more in my pocket, but common sense is still common sense
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#154 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Which DOESNT CHANGE ANYTHING. LOL

They report IN MAY their financials for the past fiscal year. Last year, 63.9 million. This year, going by YOUR NUMBER (lol), its 76.3 million.

Basiclally I was asking if you had a point. Clearly you don't. So yeah, keep up the deflecting.

tormentos

 

Are yo for real.?

Sure it changes,by the time the anouncement came in,sony was probably close to 65 million if not there already.

In fact now they have sold more than they announce on the fiscal report i posted,because it doesn't include anything from April and May.

 

http://gamer.blorge.com/2012/11/04/sony-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-and-wii-last-quarter-ps-vita-forecast-down/

 

Here dude Sony sold from July to September 3.5 million units notice how sony takes a month to report sale ms is much faster,that means that at the end on June there were on 66.5 million units,funny enough MS anounce 66 million units on June 2012..

 

They were neck and neck on 2012,and on this first qarter the PS3 just ran over the 360.

No it changes nothing. Since the end of the last fiscal report, it was 63.9. End of this fiscal report, add 16.5 million to that figure (although thats inflated with PS2 sales). Those are the last official numbers from Sony, and all that matter.

So all the other crap you're posting about is totally irrelevant.

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#155 Shewgenja
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Why would they have to announce it?  PS3 sales already outpace 360 by a fairly large percentage.  There's little to be gained by it and it might look like a defensive maneuver against the XBox 720 unveiling later this month.

 

Sony knows that gamers will put two and two together.  In a launch year for a new product, that's really all they could give a toss about.

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#156 RR360DD
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Why would they have to announce it?  PS3 sales already outpace 360 by a fairly large percentage.  There's little to be gained by it and it might look like a defensive maneuver against the XBox 720 unveiling later this month.

 

Sony knows that gamers will put two and two together.  In a launch year for a new product, that's really all they could give a toss about.

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If they wanted us to put two and two together, they would've released the PS3 and PS2 numbers separate so that we could do the math for ourselves :lol:
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#157 CaseyWegner
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why can't you guys wait for official numbers?

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#158 StormyJoe
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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

They did not include consoles they replaced from RRoD warranties. The argument that their total sales is artificially inflated by some massive RRoD re-buy number is countered by 360 software sales. If there are significantly fewer *actual* 360 owners, then the attachment rate of 360 games is the greatest in history.

Are you trying to tell me that 1 out of every 2 or 1 out of every 3 360 owners bought MW3? I am sure Activision would like to know that.

tormentos

No those are not counted,but that is not a re buy unit,because when you send it for repairs is free,re buy is when your unit out of warranty and you have to buy a new one,i had 2,my brother in law 3,not every one is like this,but many are the stories.

Halo sold almost 9 million on xbox,while selling 25 million units you do the math.

There is no a certain number of units resold since Gamestop or many other don't ask if you previously owned a 360,but i am sure it was on the millions probably more than 15 millions,funny if you actually see xbox live you will find something odd,ony 46 million had open an account silver or gold,that leaves some 30 million units who had not even open a silver account don't you find that od in this era.?

PSN accounts gratly out number PS3 numbers,the reason was say to be multiple profiles,but on live you can do that to on silver,i have 3 different many did open accounts with different mails to get a free month of xbox live,still the numbers of total account fell way short of the numbers of hardware sold,when the 360 was say to be more active online,broken 360.?

You almost had a good point. You were almost there... until you insinuated that there are only 46 million XBox live users; meaning that there are 30 million replacement units. By that math, Modern Warfare 3 and Black Ops achieved a 30%+ attachment rate on the 360. Something that has never been done in the modern era (unless the console shipped with the game).

FYI: that announcement was for XBL Gold.

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#159 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

If the PS2 were still selling in the millions then Sony wouldn't have phased it out. You guys really need to start using that brain before it totally goes to waste....

RR360DD

It sold 4.1 million last fiscal year. So maybe use your own brain and do a little research ...

 

And going down....

Impossible that they sold more this year,which you refuse  admit.

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#160 shawn30
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Why would they have to announce it?  PS3 sales already outpace 360 by a fairly large percentage.  There's little to be gained by it and it might look like a defensive maneuver against the XBox 720 unveiling later this month.

 

Sony knows that gamers will put two and two together.  In a launch year for a new product, that's really all they could give a toss about.

Shewgenja
Ok, keep telling yourself that makes sense. But it just doesn't. This is big business here. If they were ahead they would announce it. Just like when every single American monthly sales comes out MS is quick to tout how much they sold the combined competition. Nintendo did it each month when the Wii was in command. But I guess to you Sony is different than every other company on Earth, lol.
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#161 shawn30
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

Why would they have to announce it?  PS3 sales already outpace 360 by a fairly large percentage.  There's little to be gained by it and it might look like a defensive maneuver against the XBox 720 unveiling later this month.

 

Sony knows that gamers will put two and two together.  In a launch year for a new product, that's really all they could give a toss about.

RR360DD
If they wanted us to put two and two together, they would've released the PS3 and PS2 numbers separate so that we could do the math for ourselves :lol:

So damn true!
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#162 kuraimen
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If the PS2 were still selling in the millions then Sony wouldn't have phased it out. You guys really need to start using that brain before it totally goes to waste....

Gue1
Too late...
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#163 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

 

Sony announced 10th May 2012 that PS3 had sold 13.9 million units, putting it at 63.9 million.

9th May 2013 (today) they have combined PS3 and PS3 numbers totalling 16.5 million. YOU are the one that mentioned PS3 sales being 12.4 million of those.

THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL TO 76.3 MILLION WHICH IS LESS THAN THE 77.2 MILLION THE 360 HAS SOLD

Keep self-owning yourself :lol:

tormentos

 

They announce in may,their fiscal year report...:lol:  The Year closes on march 30 and contains not a single sale pass march 30.

Just like now they anounce these numbers now on may and it doesn't include a single sale from April 1 and forward,sony fiscal year close on March 30 and the reports enter in May,by the way what is today.? May 9 2013,when the reports came last years oh yeah in May 10...:lol:

RR360DD owned yet again
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#164 kuraimen
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we know PS3 is more popular with pre-school kidssts106mat
The average age of ps3 owners is higher than 360 owners. Why do lems insist on lying to try to convince themselves of their delusions? isn't it best to live in the real world?
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#165 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

 

Sony announced 10th May 2012 that PS3 had sold 13.9 million units, putting it at 63.9 million.

9th May 2013 (today) they have combined PS3 and PS3 numbers totalling 16.5 million. YOU are the one that mentioned PS3 sales being 12.4 million of those.

THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL TO 76.3 MILLION WHICH IS LESS THAN THE 77.2 MILLION THE 360 HAS SOLD

Keep self-owning yourself :lol:

kuraimen

 

They announce in may,their fiscal year report...:lol:  The Year closes on march 30 and contains not a single sale pass march 30.

Just like now they anounce these numbers now on may and it doesn't include a single sale from April 1 and forward,sony fiscal year close on March 30 and the reports enter in May,by the way what is today.? May 9 2013,when the reports came last years oh yeah in May 10...:lol:

RR360DD owned yet again

Nope. Keep trying :lol:
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#166 tormentos
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You almost had a good point. You were almost there... until you insinuated that there are only 46 million XBox live users; meaning that there are 30 million replacement units. By that math, Modern Warfare 3 and Black Ops achieved a 30%+ attachment rate on the 360. Something that has never been done in the modern era (unless the console shipped with the game).

FYI: that announcement was for XBL Gold.

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No i am sure is not 30 millions,it most be 15 or 17million the most,the rest people who doesn't care for online probably.

Mario kart sold even better than 30%,it has sold like 35 million units on a 99 million user base,so did other mario games like The New super mario.

No MS account both gold and silver together dude,it has been know for a while now,about half of the 46 millions are gold the rest silvers.

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#169 Douevenlift_bro
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Welp, 360 is dead last. Have fun lemmings

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#170 BigBoss255
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Sony need to milk this at E3. That ass Greenburg said PS3 would never catch up.
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#171 Floppy_Jim
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Well that was anti-climatic. Sony are forecasting another 10 million PS3's for the next year, it's actually going to overtake the Wii one day for "first place" :? The Wii could even end up in third place. Such a wacky generation this has been.

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#172 ProjectPat187
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LOL the PS2 is still selling? anyway I have always had both PS3 and Xbox 360 and I always liked the 360 more because of the online and nice built infrastructure, better controller, and most games of the same game the 360 will have 10 times more players than the PS3 version. Oh and the wifi in the PS3 sucks compared to the one in the 360.
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Why are PS2 sales combined in that report? :|

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Yay!

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#175 Tessellation
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Why are PS2 sales combined in that report? :|

Frostbite24
because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?
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#176 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

Why are PS2 sales combined in that report? :|

Tessellation
because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?

Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.
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#177 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

Why are PS2 sales combined in that report? :|

kuraimen
because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?

Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.

look kuraimen upset again and talks about crying... :( please don't report me to the mods kuraimen.. ;)
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#178 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

Why are PS2 sales combined in that report? :|

kuraimen

because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?

Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

 

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?

Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.

look kuraimen upset again and talks about crying... :( please don't report me to the mods kuraimen.. ;)

Reported for crying so much.
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#180 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?tormentos

Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

 

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

So you're ignoring my posts because you got owned. The numbers can't be that much lower because the max the PS3 could've sold was 13.9 million :lol:
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This is be interesting ...

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#183 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.RR360DD

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

 

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

So you're ignoring my posts because you got owned. The numbers can't be that much lower because the max the PS3 could've sold was 13.9 million :lol:

You are not understanding lem. Your favorite game: the calculator, is not working for you.
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#184 blackace
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Sony need to milk this at E3. That ass Greenburg said PS3 would never catch up.BigBoss255
He probably was talking about the U.S. market. Which is probably true in this case.
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#185 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

 

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

kuraimen

So you're ignoring my posts because you got owned. The numbers can't be that much lower because the max the PS3 could've sold was 13.9 million :lol:

You are not understanding lem. Your favorite game: the calculator, is not working for you.

Instead of posting useless crap like that, why don't you prove me wrong.

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Sony arent celebrating this if its true, only Cows are.
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#187 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] because is the only way to inflate their sad numbers :( ?tormentos

Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

 

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

still upset because i can afford a gaming PC and you can't? :( gaming on PC =/= being a hermit..but i guess hermits have mind fuk you so much in this forum :cool: keep on crying
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#188 I_can_haz
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:lol: TLHBFR!!!!!

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:  @  ":cry: b..bu..bu..but teh PS3 is last place and will never catch up! :cry: Teh gen is already over now that teh WiiU is out!".

 

Damn, if only M$ had released some games. :lol: How the hell do you release first at a cheaper price and and still end up last place? M$ is just an epic fail. :lol: Now that lems have lost the sales and games war, what will they turn to next?

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#189 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.RR360DD

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

 

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

So you're ignoring my posts because you got owned. The numbers can't be that much lower because the max the PS3 could've sold was 13.9 million :lol:

typical of basement dweller cows..throw the stone and hide the hand :(
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#191 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]So you're ignoring my posts because you got owned. The numbers can't be that much lower because the max the PS3 could've sold was 13.9 million :lol:RR360DD

You are not understanding lem. Your favorite game: the calculator, is not working for you.

Instead of posting useless crap like that, why don't you prove me wrong.

It has already been done time and time again. You were counting the fiscal year as if it ends in may yet it ends in march. It's not my problem that you're to dumb to notice this.
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#192 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

:lol: TLHBFR!!!!!

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:  @  ":cry: b..bu..bu..but teh PS3 is last place and will never catch up! :cry: Teh gen is already over now that teh WiiU is out!".

 

Damn, if only M$ had released some games. :lol: How the hell do you release first at a cheaper price and and still end up last place? M$ is just an epic fail. :lol: Now that lems have lost the sales and games war, what will they turn to next?

AD216
if the ps means that much to u, maybe u should buy a bottle of advil and swallow them all. or i could provide u with a rope. maybe there's a bridge near ur house, that would be the fastest way to end ur miserable existence

:lol: Look at the lemming tears!!!
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#193 AD216
Member since 2008 • 1719 Posts
[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

:lol: TLHBFR!!!!!

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:  @  ":cry: b..bu..bu..but teh PS3 is last place and will never catch up! :cry: Teh gen is already over now that teh WiiU is out!".

 

Damn, if only M$ had released some games. :lol: How the hell do you release first at a cheaper price and and still end up last place? M$ is just an epic fail. :lol: Now that lems have lost the sales and games war, what will they turn to next?

I_can_haz
if the ps means that much to u, maybe u should buy a bottle of advil and swallow them all. or i could provide u with a rope. maybe there's a bridge near ur house, that would be the fastest way to end ur miserable existence

:lol: Look at the lemming tears!!!

lem? me? lmao noooo, u misconstrued the situation son, i'm just anti cow. i think yall r a bunch of basement dwelling, pimpled faced, teenaged geeks that get on gs to be keyboard warriors ctfu
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#194 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="AD216"] if the ps means that much to u, maybe u should buy a bottle of advil and swallow them all. or i could provide u with a rope. maybe there's a bridge near ur house, that would be the fastest way to end ur miserable existenceAD216
:lol: Look at the lemming tears!!!

lem? me? lmao noooo, u misconstrued the situation son, i'm just anti cow. i think yall r a bunch of basement dwelling, pimpled faced, teenaged geeks that get on gs to be keyboard warriors ctfu


Wrong, that's the perfect description for Hermits, not cows.

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#196 AD216
Member since 2008 • 1719 Posts
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:lol: Look at the lemming tears!!!

lem? me? lmao noooo, u misconstrued the situation son, i'm just anti cow. i think yall r a bunch of basement dwelling, pimpled faced, teenaged geeks that get on gs to be keyboard warriors ctfu

:lol: Enjoy your ban/suspension though. You can't tell people to commit suicide on SW, it's against the TOU. :lol: I know you're upset but you gotta control dat butthurt around here.

lmmfao idgaf. its just a website bruh. i can get on any other site to get the info i need. thanks for the laughs tho.
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#197 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Even deinflated the ps3 wins. Cry more lem.Tessellation

Exactly.

The PS2 sold 4 million on 2011-12, am sure numbers are lower this year quite easy,reason why sony is dropping it and not manufacturing them any more as of the end of 2012.

But but he is a Hermit..:lol:

still upset because i can afford a gaming PC and you can't? :( gaming on PC =/= being a hermit..but i guess hermits have mind fuk you so much in this forum :cool: keep on crying


Why should he, if he owns a PS3 he's all set, he will be able to play the best games available today, and with the upcoming games like The Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls he is one lucky son of a gun, and don't forget the PS4.

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#198 lundy86_4
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Shit... It took long enough.

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#199 tormentos
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So you're ignoring my posts because you got owned. The numbers can't be that much lower because the max the PS3 could've sold was 13.9 million :lol:RR360DD

 

You don't get it do you.?

 

Let me makeit official because you don't quite get it..

 

Microsoft shipped 1.7 million consoles, down from 2.3 million a year ago. That brings Microsoft's cumulative total of Xbox 360 units shipped to retail to 70.0 million units as of September 30, 2012.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250485/microsoft-profits-531-billion-xbox-rampd-up-70m-xbox-360-shipped/

 

This ^^ are Officials numbers by MS they are for their first fiscal quarter they can't lie on those reports.

 

Sony hit 70 million 1 month after,so yeah they were neck and neck,unless you want to believe that MS was 3 million ahead on September 30 and that sony sold 3 million PS3 in just 1 month to hit 70 million to.

MS was like a million ahead the most,and if the PS3 sold 13.9 million units it outsold the 360 by almost 4 miliion in fiscal year 2012,MS lead wasn't 4 million units,so yeah they were outsold.

 

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