The PS3 Will Prove Its Power In 2009

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#101 lfcgangster2k7
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yay im the 100 post

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#102 jackvegas21
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Such a new argument. I mean I've never heard this one before.:P
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#103 mattbbpl
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Such a new argument. I mean I've never heard this one before.:Pjackvegas21
At least the year is new.
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#104 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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just wait
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#105 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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There's a definition of insanity; Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time.
This gets likened to the analogy of the fly bumping into a glass window, and bumping again and again, expecting each time to get through.
Maybe we should change the name of the sony fan base from 'cows' to 'flies'? :)
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#106 speedsix
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Was anyone else surprised when they realised this was a post made recently and not an old one re-bumped?
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#107 HuusAsking
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There's a definition of insanity; Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time.AdobeArtist
Thing is, what does the definition become when you do the same thing over and over, and the result does actually differ?
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#108 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]There's a definition of insanity; Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time.HuusAsking
Thing is, what does the definition become when you do the same thing over and over, and the result does actually differ?

Blind luck. Like all the nuts who are constantly claiming the world is going to end. Eventually, one of them will be right.
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#109 Puckhog04
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The PS3 has nothing to prove. It already has many phenomenal games and incredible visually looking titles. As well as a huge list of amazing looking exclusives for next year (GT5, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, White Knight Chronicles, etc.).
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#110 Caseytappy
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Phenomenal , incredible , huge , amazing , unretainable and monstrous powerz will be unleashed !

Cows 2006 , 2007 , 2008 and now also 2009 !

It is coming .... really ..................believe !!!!

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#111 Puckhog04
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Last i checked PS3 had 1 AAAA exclusive and 2 AAA exclusives in 2008, more so then any other console.

It's been here for quite awhile now. ;)

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#112 Leo-Magic
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stop making dreams. the truth is the truth, live with it.
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#113 pamplinas322
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Dont buy the console at launch, wait 3 years later for the true power to be unleashed. Nice logic. lol
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#114 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]There's a definition of insanity; Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time.mattbbpl
Thing is, what does the definition become when you do the same thing over and over, and the result does actually differ?

Blind luck. Like all the nuts who are constantly claiming the world is going to end. Eventually, one of them will be right.

Yeah, the end of the world doesn't require a prophesy to happen. It's a basic precept of the universe that all things eventually decay and come to their demise. It's a known fact that stars eventually collapse. That would be like saying "the sun will rise" or "The weather will change and we will see a thunder storm someday" is somehow prophetic.

But getting back to my own statement, well really my quote of someone else's statement, you (HuusAsking) clearly didn't get the meaning of the adage. If repeated attempts always lead to failure, one must change their approach to attain the desired results. That's just some basic logic right there. And so far sonyfans here have learned nothing - they repeatedly predict the demise of the 360 (within this generation, not talking after this one ends), some kind of super surge in sales for the PS3 that is not supported by any reasonable market observation, just their wishful thinking. It doesn't happen and... lo and behold, a few months later we see the cycle repeat.

What was supposed to happen in 06, was then supposed to happen in 07, then in 08 and now the "prophesy" will supposedly happen in 2009.... and then 2010.... then 2011...

But how the saying applies here is a bit different. The sonyfans want to see PS3 overtake 360. What they keep repeating is that all the Topics, rants, chants, and overall approach of making loose predictions expecting to somehow prove themselves right. What should be learned here is that all that doesn't work, it won't have any effect on reality, so what they should have learned is to just stop saying how things are going to happen before they happen.

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#115 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Thing is, what does the definition become when you do the same thing over and over, and the result does actually differ?AdobeArtist

Blind luck. Like all the nuts who are constantly claiming the world is going to end. Eventually, one of them will be right.

Yeah, the end of the world doesn't require a prophesy to happen. It's a basic precept of the universe that all things eventually decay and come to their demise. It's a known fact that stars eventually collapse. That would be like saying "the sun will rise" or "The weather will change and we will see a thunder storm someday" is somehow prophetic.

But getting back to my own statement, well really my quote of someone else's statement, you (HuusAsking) clearly didn't get the meaning of the adage. If repeated attempts always lead to failure, one must change their approach to attain the desired results. That's just some basic logic right there. And so far sonyfans here have learned nothing - they repeatedly predict the demise of the 360 (within this generation, not talking after this one ends), some kind of super surge in sales for the PS3 that is not supported by any reasonable market observation, just their wishful thinking. It doesn't happen and... lo and behold, a few months later we see the cycle repeat.

What was supposed to happen in 06, was then supposed to happen in 07, then in 08 and now the "prophesy" will supposedly happen in 2009.... and then 2010.... then 2011...

But how the saying applies here is a bit different. The sonyfans want to see PS3 overtake 360. What they keep repeating is that all the Topics, rants, chants, and overall approach of making loose predictions expecting to somehow prove themselves right. What should be learned here is that all that doesn't work, it won't have any effect on reality, so what they should have learned is to just stop saying how things are going to happen before they happen.

Well there is always Hannukah or asking Santa Claus to make their wishes come true.

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#116 TREAL_Since
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As far as graphics we will see the PS3's power. Reviews and sales are unknown. I am excited though.
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#117 TREAL_Since
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Woah... I realized that the PS3 is such a hot topic in SW recently. Whether it's Cows or Lemmings the vast majority of new threads have been PS3 related news :o.
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#118 ImOldGreg
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Oh Renegade...back to your old tricks eh??
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#120 demoralizer
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The PS3 is a sleeping dragon just wait. I'll let all you guys know when it wakes up price and the price drops.
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#121 bobcheeseball
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Hmm... maybe I would think about if I DIDN'T HEAR THIS EVERY FREAKIN YEAR!!
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#122 cuddlesofwar
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If the PS3 hasn't peaked, neither has the Xbox 360. It's that simple.

Cows said Gears 1 was it's peak ... Gears 2 looks miles better/

Uncharted is all you have now, and don't say MGS4, it looks horrible compared to the aforementioned games.

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#123 Gameslave_
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[QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]yes we get it, there is a secret compartment in the machine that Sony must unlock to release more power. Both systems will get better, you chose sides and you fail.

i think the 360 totally peaked with gears 2 when killzone 2, uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war 3, and gran turismo 5 comes out, nothing on 360 can compare.
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#124 cuddlesofwar
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[QUOTE="Gameslave_"][QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]yes we get it, there is a secret compartment in the machine that Sony must unlock to release more power. Both systems will get better, you chose sides and you fail.

i think the 360 totally peaked with gears 2 when killzone 2, uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war 3, and gran turismo 5 comes out, nothing on 360 can compare.

You THINK. Nice proof. It's one engine ... one multi-platform engine. Killzone uncharted, GT5 and GOW all have PS3 exclusive engines built from the ground up for the PS3, hence, they'll yield better results. It's not rocket science ... If MS had some half decent first party support, or made games themselves, you'd see some REAL graphical powerhouses emerge from MS' corner. Especially with all the backing MS can give.
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#125 sargentbotk
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Call me when the PS3 goes SSJ2, looks like:

and produces unbelievable powah!

With the reputation of previous GoW games, I have to admit that I'm expecting GoW3 to look f-tabulously GREAT. People say KZ2 looks amazing, GoW3 MUST look 10x better! :)

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#126 afmsquid
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[QUOTE="Gameslave_"][QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]yes we get it, there is a secret compartment in the machine that Sony must unlock to release more power. Both systems will get better, you chose sides and you fail.

i think the 360 totally peaked with gears 2 when killzone 2, uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war 3, and gran turismo 5 comes out, nothing on 360 can compare.

When Lair comes out, nothing on 360 can compare, oh wait......
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#127 cuddlesofwar
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[QUOTE="afmsquid"][QUOTE="Gameslave_"][QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]yes we get it, there is a secret compartment in the machine that Sony must unlock to release more power. Both systems will get better, you chose sides and you fail.

i think the 360 totally peaked with gears 2 when killzone 2, uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war 3, and gran turismo 5 comes out, nothing on 360 can compare.

When Lair comes out, nothing on 360 can compare, oh wait......

Tbh ... Lair is better looking then MGS4.
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#128 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Then let's see the 360 do the OctoCamo. As I recall, Kojima had needed the resources of an entire SPE just for that, on top of what he had cooking everywhere else. HuusAsking
Geforce 7 based RSX would need the support from SPEs for vertex, geometry and some pixel shading.

Thing is, could the Xenon and Xenos replicate this feat without choking elsewhere? IIRC, the Xenos, while superior to the RSX, is far from the number-crunching beast of the GF8's. Otherwise, why wasn't a F@H client developed for it? The Xenon is Power-based like the Cell, so they could use the PS3 code. Meanwhile, they have all their work with the ATI GPU clients to help build for the Xenos. And the 360 has better market penetration than the PS3, so they'll get more clients on board. So why don't they?

Xenos's secondary GPU handles some of pixel shading work e.g. HDR, thus reducing the workload on the unified shaders. ATI Radeon X1xx0 Fold@Home GPU1 client has been decommissioned.

Fold@Home GPU2 scores for ATI Radeon HD 3670' is around 1100 PPD. Xenos doesn't have AMD/ATI CAL thus no Fold@Home GPU2 client. Let's see if OpenCL/ DX compute shaders gets ported Xbox360.

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#129 zekere
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There's a difference between power and selling well . The Wii and DS are selling like hotcakes . The PS3 isn't . reason ? The price . Period . PS3 has incredible games, just as 360 has beautiful games . Yes, there's much coming to the PS3 next year (or the year after...) but saying that the 360 has reached its limit with Gears 2 is a little too harsh . Tekken 6 and Resi5 prove that the 360 has much up its sleeve, graphically wise .

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#130 thatguy1990
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There's a difference between power and selling well . The Wii and DS are selling like hotcakes . The PS3 isn't . reason ? The price . Period . PS3 has incredible games, just as 360 has beautiful games . Yes, there's much coming to the PS3 next year (or the year after...) but saying that the 360 has reached its limit with Gears 2 is a little too harsh . Tekken 6 and Resi5 prove that the 360 has much up its sleeve, graphically wise .

zekere

I agree. People in this thread tend to forget that there are also lots of big games coming to the 360 in 2009.

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#131 McdonaIdsGuy
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Yeah i remember you saying that GOW3 was prove of that ''POWER'' look what happened now :lol:
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#132 rgame1
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PS3 can't even show its power now.
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#133 manicfoot
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*sigh* PLEASE stop with these threads. Overall there is no SIGNIFICANT difference in power between both systems. PS3 may be harder for devs to work on, but third parties are slowly getting used to it. DVD9 may be too small, but compression techniques keep getting better and better. Both systems have their strengths and witnesses, but at the end of the day there isn't much difference in overall performance. Its not like PS2/Xbox and never will be so get the hell over it.
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#135 Martin_G_N
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The biggest reason why the X360 will have problems in the end is it's DVD capacity. Look at Far Cry 2, or listen to it. The sound sucks worse than PSone games and just listen to it when they are talking, they have speeded it all up to make the samples shorter...LOL. And don't ask me where they found the sound effects.

The funny thing is, this is'nt the first multiplatform game that has these problems. Not only those the exclusives on the PS3 have better or equal graphics, they also have waaay better sound. Not even PC games have as good sound. It takes up a lot of bandwidth, where consoles have the edge. But the PS3 also has the edge since it has Blu Ray. I think we will keep on seeing improvements in how developers gets more power out of the PS3 for years, while the X360 developers has to improve the existing game engines, like they have done with the Unreal Engine 3 over several years now.

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#136 True-Legend86
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^ manicfoot: I understand some people love to stay in the middle because they like both systems or they want to be known as the peacekeepers with no bias opionions...ha lol judging from the games thats come out and upcoming games for both systems, its pretty clear the PS3 has the overall tech advantage
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#137 Abicus7
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Its quite obvious that both systems are very good choices in terms of games.

But at the end of the day, it comes down to the developer of the games, not the system. We all know that good games can be on all platforms and likewise with

the not so great games. Both sony and Microsoft have amazing studios backing them, so, its all up to them!

Congradulations to Gears 2 for winning Best Shooter at the VGA's!

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#138 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="zekere"]

There's a difference between power and selling well . The Wii and DS are selling like hotcakes . The PS3 isn't . reason ? The price . Period . PS3 has incredible games, just as 360 has beautiful games . Yes, there's much coming to the PS3 next year (or the year after...) but saying that the 360 has reached its limit with Gears 2 is a little too harsh . Tekken 6 and Resi5 prove that the 360 has much up its sleeve, graphically wise .

thatguy1990

I agree. People in this thread tend to forget that there are also lots of big games coming to the 360 in 2009.

Like...? And do we have confirmations on these games?
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#139 PAL360
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:lol:

wasnt PS3 suposed to proove its power at lauch?

Just wait again...and again... ;)

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#140 SecretPolice
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Yay but the thing is, if not 2009, we can count on a thread next year at this time saying: 2010 will be the year. :P
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#141 HuusAsking
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Yay but the thing is, if not 2009, we can count on a thread next year at this time saying: 2010 will be the year. :PSecretPolice
Not really, because 2010 will be the year the next console generation looms near. Any one of the three could release in 2010 to get a jump on the competition. So to anyone who says, "Just wait." Reply with, "Now or never."
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#142 jakarai
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[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="Gameslave_"][QUOTE="deathtoallgods"]yes we get it, there is a secret compartment in the machine that Sony must unlock to release more power. Both systems will get better, you chose sides and you fail.

i think the 360 totally peaked with gears 2 when killzone 2, uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war 3, and gran turismo 5 comes out, nothing on 360 can compare.

You THINK. Nice proof. It's one engine ... one multi-platform engine. Killzone uncharted, GT5 and GOW all have PS3 exclusive engines built from the ground up for the PS3, hence, they'll yield better results. It's not rocket science ... If MS had some half decent first party support, or made games themselves, you'd see some REAL graphical powerhouses emerge from MS' corner. Especially with all the backing MS can give.

You mean like Halo 3? :roll:
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#143 3picuri3
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i saw this thread in 2006, bout 2007.

i saw this thread in 2007, bout 2008.

now yet again, in 2008, bout 2009.

sure does take a while for them to showcase the power. or maybe all memes regarding 'teh ps3 power' need to die.

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#144 gcfreak898
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When hell freezes over the Ps3 will be king. Thats why Xbox 360 is king becuase thats just fact.
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#145 donalbane
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Enough with the 'Just Wait!' message. It's not going to happen, people... this 'Gen' is already on the way out. I pity anyone still playing their PS3 for games 10 years after it launches. It would be like if all you had to play right now was the Sega Genesis or something.
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#146 cuddlesofwar
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[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="Gameslave_"] i think the 360 totally peaked with gears 2 when killzone 2, uncharted 2, heavy rain, god of war 3, and gran turismo 5 comes out, nothing on 360 can compare. jakarai
You THINK. Nice proof. It's one engine ... one multi-platform engine. Killzone uncharted, GT5 and GOW all have PS3 exclusive engines built from the ground up for the PS3, hence, they'll yield better results. It's not rocket science ... If MS had some half decent first party support, or made games themselves, you'd see some REAL graphical powerhouses emerge from MS' corner. Especially with all the backing MS can give.

You mean like Halo 3? :roll:

The Halo 3 engine is an updated Halo 2 engine, built for the Original Xbox. The Killzone 2 engine is an engine builst specifically for the PS3. Ground up, from scratch. Halo 3 re used many things from previous Halo games.
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#148 mo0ksi
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Will it now? Like it was supposed to this year? Or was it last year? Or was it the year before?
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#149 Silverbond
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When hell freezes over the Ps3 will be king. Thats why Xbox 360 is king becuase thats just fact.gcfreak898

Someone forgot the Wii.

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#150 patriots7672
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Games in 2009 will definitely look better and run better since devs have had time to learn how to more greatly utilize it and program for it.