flopstation 4?
lol that thing is a joke.
still waiting for mediocrity?
lol
yea a profit so big they selling the business...
sony are just fine
The point is they did make a profit on the tv side,and the PS4 side well that is doing so great that you have to damage controls it with other bad parts of sony...hahaha
sony is getting worse...despite the ps4...
why cant you just admit that?
1 released game and 2 unreleased games, which by the time they release the PS4 will be over 2 years old equals a dominant system? Both the other consoles already have the 3AAE + retail games to match these released/unreleased PS4 games, its not really in a dominant position, if anything its playing catch up in terms of games at the moment.
3rd party developers aren't going to be supporting one system over the other it was apparent last gen when the PS3 wasn't doing too well but still received support, and should be apparent this gen that the days of 3rd party exclusives are coming to an end, unless MS or Sony are supporting the games budget in some way.
That is some fu** up math..
The PS4 would be 16 months by the time both Bloodborn and The order were release not more than 2 years.
No they don't have shit,in fact last halo flopped here as well and countering new games with old is a joke,the xbox one doesn't have anything but Screamride from january to September is a graveyard,at least PS4 fans have something flopped or not they have something i prefer a 60 game over nothing any day.
The 2 unreleased games where not bloodborn and the order, the other unreleased game that people are waiting for on the PS4 is uncharted, which I had bolded in my quote chain. If Uncharted is to release during the holiday season like its intended too, the PS4 will have experienced its 3rd holiday season making it a little over 2 years old.
Outside of infamous the PS4 doesn't have any other retail games rated AAE or above, the Xbox one and WiiU individually both have more than that at this time, the Xbox one even launched with an AAAE, something the PS4 currently lacks, which implies the PS4 is currently playing catch up and not "dominating"
Its hypocritical to try and say the other systems have shit because of flopped games like Halo, and then in the same paragraph turn around and praise a flopped the order 1886 because its better than nothing, which leads your argument to appear to be irrational.
The Order 1886 damage control? ... i piss on that game, literally. I'd buy it for ten or twenty dollars tops or not at all, heck i was hella disappointed with Driveclub at the beginning but that doesn't change the outcome of this generation and i hear is playable right now.
The new Kirby game, one of iconic Nintendo franchises albeit not the strongest, received some bad criticism on gamespot, for example and still the WiiU appears to be shaping up as the first runner up. Ready at Dawn and Evolution studios are not the warhorses that turned the tides of the console war in their favor last gen, those have yet to release their biggest projects. It's silly not to see the tried and true potential they have and the impact of their games.
The king is back on top. PlayStation will ALWAYS be a bigger brand than xbox. This is a fact. The only reason PS3 didn't dominate last gen is because Sony chose not to.
When the system starts out at $600 and still manages to catch up to the xbox360 and surpass it in sales, you know the xbox brand is not that strong. When given a choice, people choose PlayStation every single time. Xbox fanboys will have to accept the fact that they will never win a console generation.
5Club and 5Order aside. Sony already lost because it is just a PC clone. The reason why PC is getting so much attention now is because all the top games are also on PC because the console is using the same hardware architecture. What's worse is the game people hyping for, are often started as PC game now, not the other way around.
You mean xbone games all coming to pc, i don't see ps4 exclusives going to the pc.
Blog it
Metal Gear Solid 4 - Definitely coming to Xbox360.
Sounds like a better blog material.
Touche
Make no mistake, there is no room for a reasonable, legitimate doubt. The Playstation 4 is the dominant system of the 8th generation of gaming. We're sitting here in the face of a global, worldwide scale asskicking that appears to be in crescendo, one where the Playstation 4 outpaces the competition even without its inhouse studios and third parties delivering their most renowed intellectual properties and ambitious projects exclusively for the system, we stand on a market battleground where the average consumer simply doesn't care that it has yet, the sole Playstation name and its studios, it's line up of games and system features turned out the winning formula for the whole generation and there is no forseable scenario where the competition, particularly the xbox ones, makes a comeback as the PS3 did the last generation. Dropping the price in desperation and imitating the Playstation line of PSPlus services is the most flattering recognition of dominance and position as market trend setter Playstation there could be, the average consumer does not care about DriveClub or The Order 1886's metascores, their collective mind already chose the PS4 over the rest, long, long ago.
Over the smouldering ruins of a once empowered xbox brand, the Playstation regained it's position as the top system of choice for both the core audience and the casual and in such terms, the history video gaming on home consoles is entering it's final days before the dawn of a new era where digital distribution and streaming to third party devices becomes the norm.
When future generations review video game history they'll see how the Playstation stood tall, head and shoulders above the Xbox, and its glory shall forever echo in the hearts of gamers until the end of days.
where the f*** you been hiding man, good to see you
I agree with hat you are saying as far as sales are concerned but as far as first party exclusives go the PS4 is being obliterated by the Wii-U.
every Major Exclusive title on the PS4 has flopped, which has really shocked me to be honest, Better than the xbone but getting killed in games by the least selling weaker system.
And i know you probably don't want to hear this but PSN is still behind XBL as an online service, PS+ is a great service but it still lacks the intergration, Seemlesness and stability that XBL has.
Yeah they are dominating but not in every Area.
Well though out OP and it's nice to see you have not changed you Avi, Mr bean is fricken awesome, end of.
see ya later alligator.
How is it you have over 16,000 posts?
I'm a system warrior from a bygone era, i served under the rule of the great system wars king and gamespotter of the year, SolidTy.
But thats beside the point, 5.0 for a couple of PS4 games wont stop the juggernaut it is.
So..in other words.."Just wait"? :P
where have you been man?
How does a console with no games dominate anything?
Yeah, i remember when people said the PS3 had no games day and night. Look how things played out, lots of people where left in the corner with the dunce hat last gen.
The king is back on top. PlayStation will ALWAYS be a bigger brand than xbox. This is a fact. The only reason PS3 didn't dominate last gen is because Sony chose not to.
When the system starts out at $600 and still manages to catch up to the xbox360 and surpass it in sales, you know the xbox brand is not that strong. When given a choice, people choose PlayStation every single time. Xbox fanboys will have to accept the fact that they will never win a console generation.
Agreed. Just the nature of the world. But I always was an underdog lover. I wouldn't say the xbox brand isn't strong. It isn't as strong as PS brand but the X1 probably passed the WiiU in sales and is selling at the pace of the 360.
How does a console with no games dominate anything?
Yeah, i remember when people said the PS3 had no games day and night. Look how things played out, lots of people where left in the corner with the dunce hat last gen.
Why is the fact that PS is selling well so important to you? You're basically screaming "YAY ME TOO!!!" Wow...................you bought what most everyone is. Great job dude. Like really, why does it matter to you? Why do you hate the Xbox, want it to die the death you described? Why hate a plastic electronic that you don't want to own or play anyway?
@cainetao11 Because i get some kicks out of it, after all the senseless hatred spewed against the PS3 last gen, which i strongly believe turned out as the best system to own by the end. It's great to see the haters of the PS3 and its brand that wished all that and worse to the system, watch their almighty console biting the dust now, its beautiful, poetic justice specially the whole sales thingy, they have no witty comeback, they seriously were left with nothing to go on hence this board got boring fast.
@AgentA-Mi6: Blog it next time, as no ones cares about your opinion. We'll see what gamers think after the GDC and E3 rolls by. XBox One is just getting warmed up. Nintendo will release a new game console before this generation is over.
This thread is textbook system wars material, we'll see what this generation looks like 5 years from now, im enjoying it as it stands. The Xbox Done is just getting warmed up and the PS4 was born blazing hot, i remember you, last place were two words you loved last gen, well now you'll be reading them a lot in a different context.
@cainetao11 Because i get some kicks out of it, after all the senseless hatred spewed against the PS3 last gen, which i strongly believe turned out as the best system to own by the end. It's great to see the haters of the PS3 and its brand that wished all that and worse to the system, watch their almighty console biting the dust now, its beautiful, poetic justice specially the whole sales thingy, they have no witty comeback, they seriously were left with nothing to go on hence this board got boring fast.
You really think this board got boring because of the PS4 selling like blow jobs from Beyoncé? I think this goes a bit deeper for you. This thread came on the heels of the Order flop, and you haven't answered the question of why would you want LESS competition in the industry?
Dude it wasn't senseless hatred. It was human nature. When your on top and say things like "next gen doesn't start until we say so; PS3 will be able to do 4D and 120 FPS; people will get two jobs in order to afford it" then they needed the bitch slap back to earth the Wii and 360 gave them. Last time Sony was a runaway success two gens in a row, they made the block head blunders with the PS3 that allowed the competition back into this. Everything great about the PS4, price, architecture being easy to dev for is a direct result of seeing their own arrogance slap them in the face. Now remove the competition? Yeah that would work out wonderfully for all of us and the industry in general.
@cainetao11 Because i get some kicks out of it, after all the senseless hatred spewed against the PS3 last gen, which i strongly believe turned out as the best system to own by the end. It's great to see the haters of the PS3 and its brand that wished all that and worse to the system, watch their almighty console biting the dust now, its beautiful, poetic justice specially the whole sales thingy, they have no witty comeback, they seriously were left with nothing to go on hence this board got boring fast.
You really think this board got boring because of the PS4 selling like blow jobs from Beyoncé? I think this goes a bit deeper for you. This thread came on the heels of the Order flop, and you haven't answered the question of why would you want LESS competition in the industry? Last time Sony was a runaway success two gens in a row, they made the block head blunders with the PS3 that allowed the competition back into this. Everything great about the PS4, price, architecture being easy to dev for is a direct result of seeing their own arrogance slap them in the face. Now remove the competition? Yeah that would work out wonderfully for all of us and the industry in general.
I dont want the competition removed man, look, the dude abides all competition, its healthy for the video game market but the darn xbox has to finish last thats what im saying, it has to end up dead last, like the gamecube did, it can have a few fun games every now and then, but pay the price of the most arrogant fanboyism this board has seen. Man we're talking about people making alt accounts just to down vote all PS3 exclusives, hatred ran deep within them and now they're humbled, reduced to nothing. I'm here to remind them how their glorious xbox follows the Playstation brand from behind with its head down.
@cainetao11 Because i get some kicks out of it, after all the senseless hatred spewed against the PS3 last gen, which i strongly believe turned out as the best system to own by the end. It's great to see the haters of the PS3 and its brand that wished all that and worse to the system, watch their almighty console biting the dust now, its beautiful, poetic justice specially the whole sales thingy, they have no witty comeback, they seriously were left with nothing to go on hence this board got boring fast.
You really think this board got boring because of the PS4 selling like blow jobs from Beyoncé? I think this goes a bit deeper for you. This thread came on the heels of the Order flop, and you haven't answered the question of why would you want LESS competition in the industry? Last time Sony was a runaway success two gens in a row, they made the block head blunders with the PS3 that allowed the competition back into this. Everything great about the PS4, price, architecture being easy to dev for is a direct result of seeing their own arrogance slap them in the face. Now remove the competition? Yeah that would work out wonderfully for all of us and the industry in general.
I dont want the competition removed man, look, the dude abides all competition, its healthy for the video game market but the darn xbox has to finish last thats what im saying, it has to end up dead last, like the gamecube did, it can have a few fun games every now and then, but pay the price of the most arrogant fanboyism this board has seen. Man we're talking about people making alt accounts just to down vote all PS3 exclusives, hatred ran deep within them and now they're humbled, reduced to nothing. I'm here to remind them how their glorious xbox follows the Playstation brand from behind with its head down.
Wow this really is proof that life is a subjective experience. I have been posting here about 9 years now and no fucking way in hell the Sony fanboyism has not been the most arrogant I have ever come across in my 35+ years of playing video games. I mean all factions have their beauties, but the world wide leader sells the most 3/4 gens it stands to reason they have the most fans. And god some act like they are receiving Yen for supporting them. I own Sony ADRs so I actually have a stake in the stock.
But like I said, its subjective. When you see others praising Sony its status quo to you, but the lemmings that bash them really must stand out for you. I lean towards the lem side, I just have had more fun gaming on Xbox over the years, but I have always owned a PS. I wont pass up great games.
@cainetao11 man i've been here for almost nine years myself too. It's beyond insane now that i think about it, i've taken long breaks from the boards but i always did come back to check out the news and read stuff.
Life is indeed a truly subjective experience, something im getting from your posts and mine are a couple of keywords, yeah perhaps sony fanboys were the most arrogant but their xbox counterparts were by far the most spiteful and their hatred the most extreme i have ever witnessed.
@cainetao11, @AgentA-Mi6
As far as last-gen commentary goes, Sony brought all that on themselves it wasn't a fanboy conspiracy against Sony or cows.
Also, "just wait" turned out to be true and the gen had legs. Worked out for Sony. Sony went x86 for devs with unified mem and matched Live, and in some way made a more lucrative deal with PSN.
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So PS4 has almost doubled XO sales and will have a 10mil lead. AgentA-Mi6 your answer is to repeat the same folly you're calling out in this thread. Just like last gen, games will decide the outcome, and I'm sorry but Infamous, Uncharted 4, and Bloodborne over 2yrs with a basket full of flops is not exactly the paradigm of gaming majesty like you claim it is.
@cainetao11 man i've been here for almost nine years myself too. It's beyond insane now that i think about it, i've taken long breaks from the boards but i always did come back to check out the news and read stuff.
Life is indeed a truly subjective experience, something im getting from your posts and mine are a couple of keywords, yeah perhaps sony fanboys were the most arrogant but their xbox counterparts were by far the most spiteful and their hatred the most extreme i have ever witnessed.
It is amazing now isn't it? I remember finding this place at my then girlfriend's house on her Mac. I don't doubt Xbox ones were spiteful. They had to listen to the sales AND the library of exclusives through the PS2 generation. But it went to Sony's head, they didn't take into account if game development costs rise, then 3rd parties simply must go multiplat. And losing all that 3rd party exclusivity hurt them. Their first party is good. I know many cows cream their jeans about them, but many of the games, especially JRPGs I couldn't give two shits for. Give me my Uncharted, GoW, throw in a Bloodborne or Demons souls and that's all I need from them. Even KZ fell off for me. On the other side the HaloGearsForza is a supposed insult but replace Forza with Fable, give me my Remedy games, Scalebound and I am in.
@cainetao11, @AgentA-Mi6
As far as last-gen commentary goes, Sony brought all that on themselves it wasn't a fanboy conspiracy against Sony or cows.
Also, "just wait" turned out to be true and the gen had legs. Worked out for Sony. Sony went x86 for devs with unified mem and matched Live, and in some way made a more lucrative deal with PSN.
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So PS4 has almost doubled XO sales and will have a 10mil lead. AgentA-Mi6 your answer is to repeat the same folly you're calling out in this thread. Just like last gen, games will decide the outcome, and I'm sorry but Infamous, Uncharted 4, and Bloodborne over 2yrs with a basket full of flops is not exactly the paradigm of gaming majesty like you claim it is.
I agree with you. The absolute arrogance to state that a competitor's new console isn't beginning a new gen? I remember Sony called it the Xbox 1.5 well shit, what is the WiiU then? The Xbox 1.8? But in the end, we the consumers benefitted. Sony ate humble pie, made some great games that gen, but really went into the corporate think tank with a better plan for the PS4. I still don't know who at MS thought it was a good idea to shoehorn ALL that into the console up front. Yes I do believe streaming and having to be online is going to be in the future of consoles. But damn MS was stupid with trying to execute it out the gate, all at once. And the no used game thing? Come on......................
How does a console with no games dominate anything?
Yeah, i remember when people said the PS3 had no games day and night. Look how things played out, lots of people where left in the corner with the dunce hat last gen.
We're talking about the PS4, not the PS3.
And we're also talking about what's happening now, now what'll happen down the road. The PS4 currently has the worst exclusive lineup of any current-gen console. It's only winning the sales war, which doesn't matter in the meta, and which is something Cows gave zero shits about when the Wii won in sales last gen.
GREAT thread Agent, great thread.
You know... i feel as though people don't understand the gravity of Microsoft's situation right now. Like... let me put it to you this way:
Decisions... Decisions...
Good for the PS4, glad its doing so well.
Just one question, if the PS4 and PS3 are doing so well, maybe someone can explain why the Vita has failed in virtually every single market besides Japan.
Sony is doing well, but their success is only in home consoles right now. Plus, they don't even have the best selling system of this generation yet. That honor belongs to the 3DS, which has utterly destroyed the Vita in terms of sales.
Thing is, nobody is the dominant company right now. Sony is the king of home consoles but is being beat in the very badly handheld market, while its the reverse for Nintendo who has a very good selling handheld, but a poor selling home console that is dead last. Microsoft is kinda in the middle, having enough success to keep up with Sony and stay ahead of Nintendo in the home console market.
No company is the clear leader right now, since all three are doing well in their own ways.
How does a console with no games dominate anything?
Yeah, i remember when people said the PS3 had no games day and night. Look how things played out, lots of people where left in the corner with the dunce hat last gen.
I think we all remember the PS3 playing catch-up all generation long.
The ps4 is only being bought cause thats how stupid people are in believing sonys BS and the piss poor games they've given out since launch proves that. Only suckers got bought into the hype. Nothing to be jealous about the ps4. No games the ps4 has that would make you knock over a granny. The ps4 games run at 30fps and never again will it reach 60fps unless its a shooter or i would say racing games but the ps4 can't even do that LOL.
The ps4 has the WORST exclusives since launch and only thing sony fanboys will brag about is sales in games. You get none of that money. The only thing you'll get is shit games which is just about ALL of sonys ps4 exclusvies. Hmm...good trade off. Thats great your happy for little Tommy over in Kentucky that was stupid enough to buy The Order but in the end u both get suckered in by sony. Wheres ur Driveclub FREE version 5 long months later? Again played for suckers. They probably want it to quiet down so you be stupid enough to forget about the free version. The online service for sony is terrible. Pretty obvious they did not use any of that money from plus suckers to get the online better cuz its the same crappy servers as the ps3 only worse.
Games with ACTUAL gameplay the ps4 can only do 900p in games like AC Unity/ Battlefield 4/ Hardline/ The evil within/ Watch Dogs/ etc etc. So the ps4 lacks on that department. TR Fraud edition is a great example of ps4 games NOT able to do 60fps. The game constantly dropped and NEVER could stay a smooth 60 w/o it dropping to low 30s. Only games sony has is LBP3/ TLOU remastered & resogun but those are on ps3. Better off getting it on ps3 since its the same game and FREE online and not have to pay for that trashy service. Hm thats a no brainer to me.
So uh...yeah keep telling yourself sony is the best to justify your purchase and make yourself feel better and seeing how awful the ps exclusives have gotten.
Lem meltdowns are the best.
@scottpsfan14: maybe dc is slightly improved but compared to the forza games it's just an embarrassing attempt to make a racing game.
It's actually a vast improvement but whatever. And yeah, Forza is the best racer out there. Forza 3 is my all time GOAT racer. And the stupid shit thing is, you probably don't even know it. Because you just dick ride anything MS because it's MS and you probably don't even like Forza. Funny world really.
I like Horizon, regular Forza is boring as shit. Doesn't change the fact that Forza is in a whole other league than Drive Club.
PS4 is the perfect representation of the sad state of console gaming, and the Wii U its opposite pole.
One with absolutely garbage exclusives selling units by the millions and the other with top quality working titles and no sales.
Console gaming is dead.
@AgentA-Mi6: Blog it next time, as no ones cares about your opinion. We'll see what gamers think after the GDC and E3 rolls by. XBox One is just getting warmed up. Nintendo will release a new game console before this generation is over.
This thread is textbook system wars material, we'll see what this generation looks like 5 years from now, im enjoying it as it stands. The Xbox Done is just getting warmed up and the PS4 was born blazing hot, i remember you, last place were two words you loved last gen, well now you'll be reading them a lot in a different context.
When you have an opinion you blog it. It's that simple. We will see what the generation looks like 5 years from now. I'll still own all 3 systems and will be playing all the best exclusives, unlike your biased self. The Wii U is currently in last place this gen. PS3 was in last place last gen.
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