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The ps4 shows again its weakness.

commander · 2015-03-28 02:45:29

The story never ends. We already had a taste of sony's achilles heel (the weak cpu) with call of duty: modern warfare, asssassins creed unity, far cry 4 and gta V but the taste is becoming gradually sourer.For starters rockstar released a patch for gta V that would improve framerates and it did, but it also decreased image quality significantly. There have been numerous complaints about decreased anistropic filtering, parrallax occlussion and view distance quality, There's is also a lot more texture popin and the vehicle collision system is reduced as well.Of course the x1 has received this patch as well, but if the ps4 is that stronger why did they got the patch? I think the nauseauting framerates have something to do with it. The ps4 does have a slightly higher detail setting but the cpu is also a 10 percent slower. That cpu difference will get bigger as well, in january 2015 microsoft released an sdk update where it unlocks the 7th core for gaming applications. Sony has no plans and is probably not able to do anything about that cpu otherwise they would have done it already for their latest game bloodborne. The load times are simply nerve wrecking for a game where its previous installment had the tagline 'prepare to die' . The game has a different name and a different story but a lot of gameplay elements, especially the dying part, are very similar to dark souls. Does 44.4 seconds respawn time mean '4 the gamers'? I don't think so. An ssd can bring relief though,Bloodborne load times ; respawn at central yharnam- ps4 stock hdd: 44.4s- hgst 7200 rpm 1tb Seagate: 37.5s- 1tb sshd hybrid: 33.9s- Scandisk extreme pro 480 gb ssd: 31.9sBut still half a minute with an ssd. That simply shows a huge bottleneck on the cpu side. It isn't the only problem in bloodborne, the game struggles to maintain 30 fps overall. I know dark souls had this too, but dark souls was released on consoles that were 6 years old and the load times were a lot better (10-20 seconds) The ps4 is 1.5 years old and it seems it has been pushed to limits already. The x1 will always have the gpu handicap though, but at a lower resolution it may seem a lot more viable for next gen games than the ps4 once that 7th core is used., the ps4 can drop the resolution and use gpgpu tools though.But hey who uses consoles for triple a games anyway, gta V is coming for the pc 14 of april, but then of course mortal kombat X is releasing as well. In the meantime alan shearer is available on fifa ultimate team for 3 million coins, xbox only of course

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#351 commander

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@ronvalencia said:

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Intel's Havok Physics on PS4 has GpGPU accelerated capability. DirectX12 enables PCs and XBO to have API parity with PS4.

From http://www.pcworld.com/article/2465211/intel-microsoft-promise-directx-12-could-halve-pc-graphics-power-draw.html

Intel's DirectX12 test includes GpGPU workloads.

In part, that’s because DirectX 12 enables the GPU to take over more of the traditional computing load, including physics and collisions.

Yeah, and... what does that have to do with anything?

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#352 tormentos

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@ronvalencia said:

@commander:

Intel's Havok Physics on PS4 has GpGPU accelerated capability. DirectX12 enables PCs and XBO to have API parity with PS4.

From http://www.pcworld.com/article/2465211/intel-microsoft-promise-directx-12-could-halve-pc-graphics-power-draw.html

Intel's DirectX12 test includes GpGPU workloads.

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Modern PCs includes HDMI ports for HDTVs and has one of the industry's best Blu-ray playback software and image processing.

PS4 is about $399 USD box.

But the xbox one has been doing compute since launch.

The 10% reservation for Kinect was for compute.

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#353 Edited By ronvalencia

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@tormentos:

But the xbox one has been doing compute since launch.
The 10% reservation for Kinect was for compute.

DX11.0 has compute shaders and XBO's DX11.X Async compute is missing a few features you fool, hence it's half baked API.

@repi will moving to DX12 asap help with Xbox One games too?
— Shayan J. (@pixelp3) April 8, 2015

@pixelp3 yes
— Johan Andersson (@repi) April 8, 2015

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#354 Edited By ronvalencia

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@commander:

@commander said:

@ronvalencia said:

@commander:

Intel's Havok Physics on PS4 has GpGPU accelerated capability. DirectX12 enables PCs and XBO to have API parity with PS4.

From http://www.pcworld.com/article/2465211/intel-microsoft-promise-directx-12-could-halve-pc-graphics-power-draw.html

Intel's DirectX12 test includes GpGPU workloads.

In part, that’s because DirectX 12 enables the GPU to take over more of the traditional computing load, including physics and collisions.

Yeah, and... what does that have to do with anything?

There's very little need for NVIDIA's PhysX. Intel will get their Havok physics running on DX12 GPU i.e. it's already running on PS4's GPU.

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#355 commander

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@ronvalencia said:

@commander:

@commander said:

@ronvalencia said:

@commander:

Intel's Havok Physics on PS4 has GpGPU accelerated capability. DirectX12 enables PCs and XBO to have API parity with PS4.

From http://www.pcworld.com/article/2465211/intel-microsoft-promise-directx-12-could-halve-pc-graphics-power-draw.html

Intel's DirectX12 test includes GpGPU workloads.

In part, that’s because DirectX 12 enables the GPU to take over more of the traditional computing load, including physics and collisions.

Yeah, and... what does that have to do with anything?

There's very little need for NVIDIA's PhysX. Intel will get their Havok physics running on DX12 GPU i.e. it's already running on PS4's GPU.

Of course there's no 'need'. There are other physics engines out there than nvidia physX on the pc, beside nvidia physX on the pc isn't a physics engine that can cover a whole game, it mostly focusses on particles.

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