The Unfinished Swan GS Review (6.5) Cows cannot catch a Break

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

Solid 8.0 at metacritic which is fantastic for an innovative and unique little game like this :D!

Master_ShakeXXX

I doubt it will go down much. GS seems to be in the very tiny minority on this one.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Unfortunately for the game, that score is only going to do down.DarkLink77

I doubt it will go down much. GS seems to be in the very tiny minority on this one.

Only three of the reviews are actually negative though, if you count 60% as being negative. I do.

Nevermind, five reviews are negative. I was looking as Gamerankings which has less reviews posted.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] some boring hipster gameDarkLink77

Why is it boring? Because it's not about killing stuff?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Why is it boring? Because it's not about killing stuff?

Lief_Ericson

[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

http://www.gamespot.com/dragon-ball-z-for-kinect/reviews/dragon-ball-z-for-kinect-review-6397896/

well since we are posting every single bad game with bad reviews i'll leave this recent one here

lems are idiots, lol

Krelian-co

says the scrub who is in every thread of xbox saying "how great mah xbox is"

i'm just pointing out how fuking dumb are the fanboys in these threads, logic ftw. ofc i don't have to worry i belong to the pc gamer master race.:lol:

A 7.5 for All-Stars and 9.0 for Halo 4 would really be entertaining to see.Zeviander

All Stars will be lucky to get a 7. I'm sensing a 9.5 for Halo 4.

The reviewer has a different opinion, no reason for people to get upset about it. However I get the feeling that GS is going for "shock" reviews as of late.

Unfinished Swan looks like a unique game, something different. I find the IGN review to be more professional (like always), but I don't have much interest in this game to begin with.

Still people have different opinions. The fanboys will go crazy over this no doubt.

God damn cows. Seriously this has to be the biggest amount of ownage in the shortest amount of time. I actually feel very sorry for them, no joke. It is a damn hard time to be a cow in SW.

Frostbite24

i feel sorry for all these indie games, always seem to fall flat on their ass barring a few notable exceptions like Limbo and Castle Crashers.

A 7.5 for All-Stars and 9.0 for Halo 4 would really be entertaining to see.Zeviander

All-Stars looks pretty meh anyway so I wouldn't be surprise if it gotten that score or lower.

Poor cows. GS is breaking down the cow's barn this year.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Unfortunately for the game, that score is only going to do down.DarkLink77

I doubt it will go down much. GS seems to be in the very tiny minority on this one.

30 is a good sample size even from fairly large datasets. So if it had 30 random reviews (i.e. not all "Playstation Lifestyle) that would pretty much be 99% indicative of what the scores would end up at.

If it has 22 relatively random reviews, that is also a pretty fair "sample" size since the whole population of reviews will probably barely be 30 anyway. It could easily move a few points up or down, but Gamespot's review will obviously be much lower than the average. A bunch of websites would have to review 4.0's to bring it all the way down to Gamespot's number, which is unlikely to happen.

It's also pretty funny people rely so much on Gamespot scores, comparing Fable The Journey is actually a perfectly illustration of why it's silly to compare 1 reviewers opinion of one game, to a completely different reviewers take on another completely unique game. Gamespot has been all over the radar lately.

Fable The Journey: 8.0 gamespot, 62 Metacritic, 56 user score. (gamespot +19 to the mean)

Unfinished Swan 6.5 gamespot, 81 metracritic, NA user score (not enough data yet). (gamespot -16 to the mean)

About the only useful information is that Fable the Journey is rather grossly overrated by Gamespot's reviewer compared to everywhere, and the early indication seems they under-rated Unfinished Swan. Lately Gamespot is almost as bad as Destructoid in chronically overrating 360 exclusives, and underrating PS3/PSN games. Not saying there's a "consiracy", but sometimes the differences are so wide it's almost silly.

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]Dance Central 3: 88 on Metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dance-central-3/critic-reviews I don't think cows wanna live on this planet anymore. :(Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] 10 is around the average for 94 but 65 from 80 average is not. That's a whole 15 points difference. Besides taking into account ALL games there's a tendency for GS to rate 360 games higher and PS3 games lower. Numbers don't lie.kuraimen

Because it makes more sense than assuming that the entire industry is part of some conspiracy to underscore PS3 games?

There is no GS score bias. inFamous 2 would have scored the exact same on the 360. Same with Twisted Metal, Starhawk, or any other PS3 game that has been "underscored." This whole idea of a game being underscored because websites don't agree with an average is ludicrous. Not every reviewer has the same views. Not every site has the same scale. Of the 90 reviews on MetaCritic for inFamous 2, nearly 40 were blow the game's "average." That's almost half.

Almost the exact same number scored it above a 9. The difference was made by the publications that scored it an 8.5, two points above the MetaScore, and within the margin or error for pretty much any statistical sample. Are all those publications that scored it lower biased now? What about the ones that over-scored it?

It's silly. And it should go without saying that GameSpot isn't EDGE, and that we don't even know if what that guy said is true. He was drunk.

Claiming bias because a media product that was reviewed differently than another completely different media product media product on a different system is asinine, and refuses to account for content differences, different reviewers, etc.

You cannot claim bias because there is literally no way to test it. The product itself makes a huge difference, and you completely discount that when you go on and on about scores and platform bias. I know this is crazy, but the content of the games themselves actually comes into account when they hand out scores.

Cows got owned by GS's reviews??? Now this is a really bad year for Cows:lol:

Poor Cows.

You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." If, tomorrow, I predict a terrible Sony exclusive meets hype or a 360 exclusive flops, and they do, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when one little old Kinect game outscores a Sony-published arthouse title, well, then

DarkLink77

dude, dark.....f*cking amazing!:lol::lol::lol:

Someone on this site didn't automatically give a PS3 exclusive an 8.0 just for being a PS3 exclusive? Holy crap has hell frozen over?

I suspect someone is going to get some angry emails.

Cows got owned by GS's reviews??? Now this is a really bad year for Cows:lol:

TheXFiles88

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I doubt it will go down much. GS seems to be in the very tiny minority on this one.

2Chalupas

30 is a good sample size even from fairly large datasets. So if it had 30 random reviews (i.e. not all "Playstation Lifestyle) that would pretty much be 99% indicative of what the scores would end up at.

If it has 22 relatively random reviews, that is also a pretty fair "sample" size since the whole population of reviews will probably barely be 30 anyway. It could easily move a few points up or down, but Gamespot's review will obviously be much lower than the average. A bunch of websites would have to review 4.0's to bring it all the way down to Gamespot's number, which is unlikely to happen.

It's also pretty funny people rely so much on Gamespot scores, comparing Fable The Journey is actually a perfectly illustration of why it's silly to compare 1 reviewers opinion of one game, to a completely different reviewers take on another completely unique game. Gamespot has been all over the radar lately.

Fable The Journey: 8.0 gamespot, 62 Metacritic, 56 user score. (gamespot +19 to the mean)

Unfinished Swan 6.5 gamespot, 81 metracritic, NA user score (not enough data yet). (gamespot -16 to the mean)

About the only useful information is that Fable the Journey is rather grossly overrated by Gamespot's reviewer compared to everywhere, and the early indication seems they under-rated Unfinished Swan. Lately Gamespot is almost as bad as Destructoid in chronically overrating 360 exclusives, and underrating PS3/PSN games. Not saying there's a "consiracy", but sometimes the differences are so wide it's almost silly.

[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]

Cows got owned by GS's reviews??? Now this is a really bad year for Cows:lol:

TheDidact

I know the lems will get angry but on metacritic Unfinished Swan got a 80 and Fable the Journey has a 62 so deal with that :lol:

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]A 7.5 for All-Stars and 9.0 for Halo 4 would really be entertaining to see.Wanderer5

All-Stars looks pretty meh anyway so I wouldn't be surprise if it gotten that score or lower.

Or maybe it will score well? Ever think of that? Give the game a chance people....but that's the thing fanboys don't want to do.

Regardless I think the game will be good, but I do have some reservations about it. The KO system is too unorthodox and they missed out on a lot of character opportunities, but I still think the game will be fun.

Poor calves, having to play this now. I've heard from a friend that he had to burn his PS3 and all of the games with it and then urinated on the ashes because of the 6.5 score. I feel bad for calves because they think that hardcore games are interactive movies (Uncharted), actual movies (MGS4), and a Mario dress-me-up. I guess its best to get a 360 to gain back your sanity. So anyway, how's your sex life?

I know the lems will get angry but on metacritic Unfinished Swan got a 80 and Fable the Journey has a 62 so deal with that :lol:

HaloPimp978

Dance Central 3: 88 on Metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dance-central-3/critic-reviews I don't think cows wanna live on this planet anymore. :(TheDidact

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]Dance Central 3: 88 on Metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dance-central-3/critic-reviews I don't think cows wanna live on this planet anymore. :(thom_maytees

I don't think anyone was hyping this.

I find the IGN review to be more professional (like always) [...]ShadowMoses900

I don't think anyone was hyping this.

ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

I know the lems will get angry but on metacritic Unfinished Swan got a 80 and Fable the Journey has a 62 so deal with that :lol:

Leo-Magic

You do realize I'm being scarstic right? I have both consoles and I could care less about both games anyways :P

I don't think anyone was hyping this.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Actually they stopped showing the critics in reviews a while ago. I think it was due to Caroline Petit getting harassed.

Master_ShakeXXX

Yeah. Whenever he would give a review the comments section was basically just nothing but kids calling him a freak and stuff like that. Shortly after they just stopped showing the critic in their reviews.

He? I thought he was a "she"

well, honestly I dont know what I thought...

I don't think anyone was hyping this.