The Wii isn't even in the same league as the PS3 and 360...

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#301 AzatiS
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it doesn't have HD graphics, no good online play, no good dashboard to watch movies and stuff. It's purely JUST a gaming machine. and a damn good one. However, sony and microsoft made gaming machine's into a combination of gaming and home entertainment. Nintendo just doesn't deliver in that department.

so even though the wii has a great library and im sure their are lots of ppl who play the wii more than ps3 or xbox, despite that, and sales, can we all agree that the wii is the worst console this gen?

motion gaming was what made it unique, but now sony... well, u know

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I know toooo many people with Wii , but no way they playing with Wii more than their PS3 or X360 or their PC... Not in a million... period
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#302 babybinky
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[QUOTE="babybinky"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] u posted a pro-wii [QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="babybinky"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Well i just brought another 2 games for the Wii. House of the Dead: Overkill and Super Smash Bro's Brawl.

That means this year thus far ive brought for my Wii. Monster Hunter Tri, Red Steel 2, Mad World, Tats Vs Cap, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Super Smash Bro Brawl, House of the Dead and then buying Donkey Kong Returns, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, Metroid Other M.

I suppose my enjoyment cannot be met with these games untill theyre all upon the PS3/360.

Dibdibdobdobo

that doesn't make the wii any better. all that proves is that u prefer those games, and that u have way too much time on your hands

And not liking those games does not prove that it's worse. No one wins.

i like some wii games. no one wins when it comes to better games because its obviously a subjective arguement. can we all agree that the wii is the worst console this gen? technically we all know that the ps3 is the superior console this gen, why can't ppl just admit it here on SW? i don't care if wii sold more units, i don't care if u play the wii more than ps3. FACE THE FACTS

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#303 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]

that doesn't make the wii any better. all that proves is that u prefer those games, and that u have way too much time on your hands

babybinky

And not liking those games does not prove that it's worse. No one wins.

i like some wii games. no one wins when it comes to better games because its obviously a subjective arguement. can we all agree that the wii is the worst console this gen? technically we all know that the ps3 is the superior console this gen, why can't ppl just admit it here on SW? i don't care if wii sold more units, i don't care if u play the wii more than ps3. FACE THE FACTS

No we can't.

And as far as the PS3 is concerned, it is the most powerful and that's all that can be said with any degree of objectivity.

It looks pants on head stupid to talk about how its all subjective and then try to get everybody to agree that the Wii is the worst.

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#304 locopatho
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That AI talk is total nonsense.

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Just judging by what I see :) As I said, could just be my imagination.
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#306 loadedboon
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[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"][QUOTE="GrizzlyBear1976"]

Name one game on any system thats more fun then SMG you can't because one doesn't exist.

Demonjoe93

If your under 10 years old sure, but fun = subjective = terrible arguement.

:lol: What kind of pathetic argument is that! :lol:

It's the argument of someone who is insecure about himself.

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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]

that doesn't make the wii any better. all that proves is that u prefer those games, and that u have way too much time on your hands

babybinky

And not liking those games does not prove that it's worse. No one wins.

i like some wii games. no one wins when it comes to better games because its obviously a subjective arguement. can we all agree that the wii is the worst console this gen? technically we all know that the ps3 is the superior console this gen, why can't ppl just admit it here on SW? i don't care if wii sold more units, i don't care if u play the wii more than ps3. FACE THE FACTS

Actually, the xbox 360 is technically a bit more powerful than the PS3 from what I've read. The PS3 just has more complicated architecture. At least that' what I've read. You didn't present any facts either, so there is nothing to face. Ps3 and 360 have a lot of games that i want to play, but in my opinion Wii is the best console this gen. Apparently, PS3 is the best in your opinion. Let's just leave it at that.

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#308 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] If your under 10 years old sure, but fun = subjective = terrible arguement.loadedboon

:lol: What kind of pathetic argument is that! :lol:

It's the argument of someone who is insecure about himself.

Oh yeah that's right! Isn't he the same guy that said he would never tell anyone that he plays Wii games because he would feel ashamed of it or something like that?

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#309 0Hamburgher
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Lol this is starting to feel like a wii vs ps3 thread now. Wii: Has some great games, but they're buried under piles of crap shovelware. Xbox 360: has about a handful of good/unique games, most of them are forgotten. Usually if no one talks about a game on the xbox, its for good reason. PS3: Lots of great games too, but most gets a ton of recognition.
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#310 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

The Wii isn't going to win any beauty contests when it comes to graphics. But it still has enjoyable games. Granted, most aren't considerd hardcore, consisting mainly of platformers and "casuals". But, that's just the way I want it. If I want the most complex games and the best graphics, I turn to my gaming PC.

Some people prefer a particular console for certain genres. Nintendo have always had good platformers (and the 1st-party games) for me. That mindset isn't about to change anytime soon unless I tire of the genre.

Demonjoe93

yep, and when the graphics are creative (like Muramasa), they actually look, you know, good.

Try telling that to all the Call of Duty/Halo fanboys. According to them good graphics are when blood splatters everywhere.:lol:

I don't know why the obsession with blood. Blood is the first thing I turn off (if I can) right after the music. I've seen enough blood when I used to butcher chicken and pigs for meat. I don't need to see them (blood) in my games.

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#311 KBFloYd
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ps3/360 games are awesome but i prefer nintendo games and 3rd party games for the console..strange but i just do.

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I have to give credit to you because you said that you are tired of games holding your hand while Other M is a candidate for your personal GOTY.

Just to be clear, do you imply that Other M does not 'hold your hand' (whatever that means) or it does, but it's still good?

Personally, Other M is just as "hand holding" as any top rated game on the HD consoles like Uncharted 2, I never paused to think hey this is too easy. I think people refer to hand holding in Other M as another way of saying why did you lock the doors, I want exploration!!

The point of the locked doors was for the game to be more cinematical with high pace and for what it is I liked it. It was also the first Metroid game to make me feel 'isolated', maybe because of the locked doors? :P

kontejner44


:?

Muramasa =/= Metroid: Other M

I didn't mention anything about Other M there. I was merely talking about Muramasa, specifically on Shura styIe.

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#313 LastRambo341
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Red steel 2: a lame shooter Twilight Princess: more dull than OoT (not saying it's bad) Super Mario Galaxy: Some of the levels felt like gimmicky mini games, and it was just too easy, and has some of the worst boss fights ever; it lacked the exploration/free roam available in Super Mario 64 Super Mario Galaxy 2: a bit better than SMG, but not that great Mario Kart Wii: Much easier than other Mario Karts, for better or for worse, AND lacks content (anyone who played Mario Kart DS knows this) A few hyped Wii titles (1st party) and trust me, I DO have a Wii, and I DO have these games. They just aren't that good. The best Wii game in my opinion is No more Heroes. Also as for graphics, there has yet to be a good looking wii game. Anyone who claims Crysis doesn't look that great, obviously has never actually seen it on Max settings.0Hamburgher
Those games already got great scores and they are great games. Also, there are many good looking Wii games
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#314 loadedboon
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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

:lol: What kind of pathetic argument is that! :lol:

Demonjoe93

It's the argument of someone who is insecure about himself.

Oh yeah that's right! Isn't he the same guy that said he would never tell anyone that he plays Wii games because he would feel ashamed of it or something like that?

Could be I don't know. But imo people who say you can only enjoy a game when your under a certain age or that a game is kiddy is simply someone insecure about himself. Since E stands for everyone that also includes adults but then again who am I to enjoy a game for what it is?

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#315 aFatDog
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You think so? The sales say differently. I'd rather trust the sales than your opinion.

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#316 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="babybinky"]

that doesn't make the wii any better. all that proves is that u prefer those games, and that u have way too much time on your hands

babybinky

And not liking those games does not prove that it's worse. No one wins.

i like some wii games. no one wins when it comes to better games because its obviously a subjective arguement. can we all agree that the wii is the worst console this gen? technically we all know that the ps3 is the superior console this gen, why can't ppl just admit it here on SW? i don't care if wii sold more units, i don't care if u play the wii more than ps3. FACE THE FACTS

So your facts are just rambling of a Fanboyon how you dont care even though you written it all out on SW's which would mean it has gotten under your skin which contradicts your rubbish talk of "I dont care". How is a PS3 a superior console?! I own a 360 which i can play majority of games on so that "SUPERIOR" is non-existant in reality, Yes it might be hard to believe that there is zero differance between 360 and PS3 in the real world. Wii is differant so how is being differant from the other 2 meaning worse?! Theres more orignal content on the Wii and alot more variation in games.

Overall your opinion is the worst one of them all.

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#317 PSNIDCiocio313
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"]

actually wii has the best gameplay on and offline

because its hardware is geared towards gaming and not multiple entertainment mediums

less computing power towards certain things is more computer power towards gaming

vintageBliss

So making a smaller cake with fewer ingredients and cooks means its automatically going to be a better cake? It doesn't work like that.

Technically wouldn't that mean gaming has gotten progressively worse since the Atari?

Can you give me examples of the games that have this great gameplay that you speak of? Also how are those games so much better than ps3/x360 games in terms of gameplay?

because they run faster, got more frames per second, because its hardware isnt limited by pushing high end graphics and bluray player/internet call of duty on the wii runs faster and smoother than call of duty on ps3/xbox because it has more frames per second and it uses the wii zapper all games on wii has more frames per second and doesnt drop in frame rate when the action heats up like on ps3/xbox why because it utilizes more more power for gaming, instead of graphics
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[QUOTE="vintageBliss"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] So making a smaller cake with fewer ingredients and cooks means its automatically going to be a better cake? It doesn't work like that.

Technically wouldn't that mean gaming has gotten progressively worse since the Atari?

PSNIDCiocio313

Can you give me examples of the games that have this great gameplay that you speak of? Also how are those games so much better than ps3/x360 games in terms of gameplay?

The zapper part made me lol. Also, may I ask which games specifically have you played with Frame Rate drops? The COD statement is not particularly true as well. because they run faster, got more frames per second, because its hardware isnt limited by pushing high end graphics and bluray player/internet call of duty on the wii runs faster and smoother than call of duty on ps3/xbox because it has more frames per second and it uses the wii zapper all games on wii has more frames per second and doesnt drop in frame rate when the action heats up like on ps3/xbox why because it utilizes more more power for gaming, instead of graphics

The COD comment is totally false; you're only looking at MW2 (not on the Wii.) Also I must add the only good looking Wii game is Metroid Prime 3.

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[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"][QUOTE="vintageBliss"] Can you give me examples of the games that have this great gameplay that you speak of? Also how are those games so much better than ps3/x360 games in terms of gameplay?0Hamburgher

The zapper part made me lol. Also, may I ask which games specifically have you played with Frame Rate drops? The COD statement is not particularly true as well. because they run faster, got more frames per second, because its hardware isnt limited by pushing high end graphics and bluray player/internet call of duty on the wii runs faster and smoother than call of duty on ps3/xbox because it has more frames per second and it uses the wii zapper all games on wii has more frames per second and doesnt drop in frame rate when the action heats up like on ps3/xbox why because it utilizes more more power for gaming, instead of graphics

The COD comment is totally false; you're only looking at MW2 (not on the Wii.) Also I must add the only good looking Wii game is Metroid Prime 3.

You think Metrioid Prime 3 is the ONLY good looking Wii game? You must have never heard of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Okami, No More Heroes, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Kart Wii, and Other M. And don't give the "oh the graphics on those games look cartoonish and kiddy" line because a game can have "cartoonish" graphics and still look amazing by all means.

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Lol this is starting to feel like a wii vs ps3 thread now. Wii: Has some great games, but they're buried under piles of crap shovelware. Xbox 360: has about a handful of good/unique games, most of them are forgotten. Usually if no one talks about a game on the xbox, its for good reason. PS3: Lots of great games too, but most gets a ton of recognition.0Hamburgher

I knew you were a Sony fanboy from the time I saw this post.

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[QUOTE="0Hamburgher"]

[QUOTE="PSNIDCiocio313"] The zapper part made me lol. Also, may I ask which games specifically have you played with Frame Rate drops? The COD statement is not particularly true as well. because they run faster, got more frames per second, because its hardware isnt limited by pushing high end graphics and bluray player/internet call of duty on the wii runs faster and smoother than call of duty on ps3/xbox because it has more frames per second and it uses the wii zapper all games on wii has more frames per second and doesnt drop in frame rate when the action heats up like on ps3/xbox why because it utilizes more more power for gaming, instead of graphicsDemonjoe93

The COD comment is totally false; you're only looking at MW2 (not on the Wii.) Also I must add the only good looking Wii game is Metroid Prime 3.

You think Metrioid Prime 3 is the ONLY good looking Wii game? You must have never heard of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Okami, No More Heroes, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Kart Wii, and Other M. And don't give the "oh the graphics on those games look cartoonish and kiddy" line because a game can have "cartoonish" graphics and still look amazing by all means.

Add sonic colors to that list. Even though sonic colors is in 30fps it still looks pretty good.

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#322 0Hamburgher
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You think Metrioid Prime 3 is the ONLY good looking Wii game? You must have never heard of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Okami, No More Heroes, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Kart Wii, and Other M. And don't give the "oh the graphics on those games look cartoonish and kiddy" line because a game can have "cartoonish" graphics and still look amazing by all means.Demonjoe93

I happened to have played those games.... (I may also add that a lot the Wii has is just more of the same) Metroid Prime 3: Beautiful. Raised the bar for my expectations (on the Wii) and In my opinion, may actually compete with it's HD rivals. Twilight Princess: You got to be kidding me. Link himself has a nice looking character model, but the low res textures, lighting and etc. are all so bland looking! Super mario Galaxy: As with all games with a heavy dependence on its art style, not every bit will look nice, but water reflection/enemy models and certain parts look good. Okami: No. JUST No. No More Heroes: Cel shaded graphics suck, at least NMH doesn't look as bad as Ultimate Spiderman Kirby's Epic yarn: a bit heavy for my taste, but I won't deny it, it looks stunning. Now if only it had better resolution... Donkey Kong Country Returns: Pretty derivative in my opinion Mario Kart Wii: sharp, but nothing impressive. Other M: Slipped my mind... yeah it looks good.

[QUOTE="0Hamburgher"]Lol this is starting to feel like a wii vs ps3 thread now. Wii: Has some great games, but they're buried under piles of crap shovelware. Xbox 360: has about a handful of good/unique games, most of them are forgotten. Usually if no one talks about a game on the xbox, its for good reason. PS3: Lots of great games too, but most gets a ton of recognition.Wii4Fun

I knew you were a Sony fanboy from the time I saw this post.

Shutup.

Who named themselves after the Wii?

Also

Wii: Most wii commercials on TV are for shovelware. Only on the internet will you see ads for good games

Xbox 360: only exclusives that most people care to play include Halo, Fable, and Gears of War. Othewise, a lot of people with and Xbox play Multiplats

Ps3: If you haven't heard of a ps3 exclusive, you probably shouldn't play it.

[4th edit]

Formatting on this site is crap

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#323 bigM10231
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="killeracer0210"]

Wii can not handle these graphics:

Only PS3, 360, and PC can.

Look at wii:


Arach666

I'm surprised you didnt use this as an accurate and unbias representation of Wii graphics

This one is much better though :P

lol why did you choose the worst games for graphics on wii? you should see metroid other m

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#324 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

I'm surprised you didnt use this as an accurate and unbias representation of Wii graphics

bigM10231

This one is much better though :P

lol why did you choose the worst games for graphics on wii? you should see metroid other m

Don't forget Metroid Prime 3 Corruption.

Let's not also forget about Twilight Princess

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#325 LastRambo341
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@bigm and Demonjoe Screenshots do not determine the quality of the graphics, neither do Internet videos. But these games look much better in person.
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#326 tomarlyn
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Let's not also forget about Twilight Princess

Demonjoe93

Yeah lets hide behind the Gamecube.

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#328 LastRambo341
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@meetroid Thats not the point. The point is that the Wii can do great graphics. Thats it.
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#329 LastRambo341
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@tomarly Can't blame em. The Wii version is much popular making the GC version forgettable.
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#330 phantom_blade66
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Wii has the best overall library in my opinion. And that's the most important thing about a video game console.savebattery

Hahahaha biggest joke ever. You can't be serious. Wii has the best overall gaming library? Maybe if you're 12 years old. Nitendo has great classic games don't get me wrong, but they're pathetic and pale in comparison to what is available for the PS3 and xbox 360

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#331 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Let's not also forget about Twilight Princess

tomarlyn

Yeah lets hide behind the Gamecube.

Oh okay then, let's see a few games then that aren't also on the Gamecube.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"]Wii has the best overall library in my opinion. And that's the most important thing about a video game console.phantom_blade66

Hahahaha biggest joke ever. You can't be serious. Wii has the best overall gaming library? Maybe if you're 12 years old. Nitendo has great classic games don't get me wrong, but they're pathetic and pale in comparison to what is available for the PS3 and xbox 360

As compared to what? Call of Duty? :lol:

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#333 tomarlyn
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@tomarly Can't blame em. The Wii version is much popular making the GC version forgettable.LastRambo341
Sorry Lambo but TP actually plays a lot better with the controller it was designed for. When people play SS they'll realise how bad TP's controls really are.
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#334 phantom_blade66
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[QUOTE="phantom_blade66"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Wii has the best overall library in my opinion. And that's the most important thing about a video game console.Demonjoe93

Hahahaha biggest joke ever. You can't be serious. Wii has the best overall gaming library? Maybe if you're 12 years old. Nitendo has great classic games don't get me wrong, but they're pathetic and pale in comparison to what is available for the PS3 and xbox 360

As compared to what? Call of Duty? :lol:

Why does everyone go right to Call of Duty? But no

God of War franchise, Heavy Rain, Dragon Age, Demon's Souls, inFamous franchise, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed franchise, Darksiders, Halo franchise, Gears of War franchise, Batman Arkham Asylum/City franchise, Borderlands, Uncharted I and II, the list goes on and on

Like I said, Nitendo has classic great games, but you just can't compare things like Mario and whatever else the wii has to some of the juggernaut titles on the better, more advanced systems

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#335 tomarlyn
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Oh okay then, let's see a few games then that aren't also on the Gamecube.Demonjoe93
All made with Gamecube architecture.
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#336 foxhound_fox
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Hahahaha biggest joke ever. You can't be serious. Wii has the best overall gaming library? Maybe if you're 12 years old. Nitendo has great classic games don't get me wrong, but they're pathetic and pale in comparison to what is available for the PS3 and xbox 360

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I'm glad your opinion is fact, and we can all start basing our pastime around what you enjoy.

I'm 23 and am enjoying NSMBW, DKCR, Muramasa and Cursed Mountain (a game I don't get why is rated M) more than any other M-rated "epic" I've played this year (ME2, RDR, JC2, DR2 and DR2:CZ). I've had more fun in the past 24 hours since getting a new Wii and most of these games than I've had all year (minus Minecraft).

Games being "for kids" doesn't stop them from being enjoyable, or quality. DKCR is possibly the best co-op platformer the gaming industry has ever seen... or will see for a very long while (until Retro makes a sequel). Even NSMBW has nothing on DKCR's co-op, and NSMBW is the best 2D Mario Nintendo has ever produced.

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#337 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="phantom_blade66"]

Hahahaha biggest joke ever. You can't be serious. Wii has the best overall gaming library? Maybe if you're 12 years old. Nitendo has great classic games don't get me wrong, but they're pathetic and pale in comparison to what is available for the PS3 and xbox 360

phantom_blade66

As compared to what? Call of Duty? :lol:

Why does everyone go right to Call of Duty? But no

God of War franchise, Heavy Rain, Dragon Age, Demon's Souls, inFamous franchise, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed franchise, Darksiders, Halo franchise, Gears of War franchise, Batman Arkham Asylum/City franchise, Borderlands, Uncharted I and II, the list goes on and on

Like I said, Nitendo has classic great games, but you just can't compare things like Mario and whatever else the wii has to some of the juggernaut titles on the better, more advanced systems

Now those are great games. I love Assassin't Creed. God of War, also a great franchise, but I think I might have heard that God of War 3 will be the last one, not sure though. I have Dragon Age on the PC and that's pretty good. Geras of War is a good farnchise, but I don't think it's really fair tolist that and God of War when they're exclusives totwo different systems.inFamout is all right, except for the parts where I got stuck on walls. Haven't played Red Dead Redemption yet but I've heard it's an amazing game. I don't know anything about Darksiders or Heavy Rain. Batman Arkham Asylum I've also heard great things about.

However, I think you can still compare Mario and other Nintendo franchises to some of those games. Super Mario Galaxy 2 got a 10. The Metroid Prime series is one of the most revered FPSs out there and you can buy on the Wii now. Twilight Princess was a good game, although it wasn't my favorite Zelda in the world and I only gave it an 8.0 in my review for it. Kirby's Epic Yarn has gotten an average of 9.0 despite being possbilythe easiest game out there. With the exception of Gamespy all of the Donkey Kong Country Returns scores have been very high, even Gameinformer gave it an 9.5. And the Wii does have a few well known M rated titles for their hardcore players. Mad World got fairly good marks, as did No More Heroes and Dead Space Extraction.Other lesser known gamesthat haverecievedgreat reviews Sin and Punishment: Star Sucessor, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

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#338 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]Oh okay then, let's see a few games then that aren't also on the Gamecube.tomarlyn
All made with Gamecube architecture.

And how is that? It seems like unless it's HD you'll rip on the graphics no matter how good they are.

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#339 AzatiS
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Mario Galaxy don't even have textures ... It just has blobs of random colour. You can call this artistic design, yes. I call it hideous. Epic Yarn is a pretty game, Mario Galaxy just looks pants

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Mario Galaxy is the best looking game this gen. Amazing use of color.

Best looking = colors?.....
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#340 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="phantom_blade66"]

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

As compared to what? Call of Duty? :lol:

Demonjoe93

Why does everyone go right to Call of Duty? But no

God of War franchise, Heavy Rain, Dragon Age, Demon's Souls, inFamous franchise, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed franchise, Darksiders, Halo franchise, Gears of War franchise, Batman Arkham Asylum/City franchise, Borderlands, Uncharted I and II, the list goes on and on

Like I said, Nitendo has classic great games, but you just can't compare things like Mario and whatever else the wii has to some of the juggernaut titles on the better, more advanced systems

Now those are great games. I love Assassin't Creed. God of War, also a great franchise, but I think I might have heard that God of War 3 will be the last one, not sure though. I have Dragon Age on the PC and that's pretty good. Geras of War is a good farnchise, but I don't think it's really fair tolist that and God of War when they're exclusives totwo different systems.inFamout is all right, except for the parts where I got stuck on walls. Haven't played Red Dead Redemption yet but I've heard it's an amazing game. I don't know anything about Darksiders or Heavy Rain. Batman Arkham Asylum I've also heard great things about.

However, I think you can still compare Mario and other Nintendo franchises to some of those games. Super Mario Galaxy 2 got a 10. The Metroid Prime series is one of the most revered FPSs out there and you can buy on the Wii now. Twilight Princess was a good game, although it wasn't my favorite Zelda in the world and I only gave it an 8.0 in my review for it. Kirby's Epic Yarn has gotten an average of 9.0 despite being possbilythe easiest game out there. With the exception of Gamespy all of the Donkey Kong Country Returns scores have been very high, even Gameinformer gave it an 9.5. And the Wii does have a few well known M rated titles for their hardcore players. Mad World got fairly good marks, as did No More Heroes and Dead Space Extraction.Other lesser known gamesthat haverecievedgreat reviews Sin and Punishment: Star Sucessor, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Do you know whats the difference here? That for Wii , you mentioned as the best N games , rehashes since 1990 once again. When for X360/PS3 combo you mentioned AT LEAST 3-4 NEW ips that are AAA. And dont bring up games as Dead space extraction , tatsuunoko vs capcom etc etc because for example original Dead Space and games like Street fighter 4 or Marvel vs capcom etc etc ... kills everything you mentioning as "good".... So you get my point
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#341 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="phantom_blade66"]

Why does everyone go right to Call of Duty? But no

God of War franchise, Heavy Rain, Dragon Age, Demon's Souls, inFamous franchise, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed franchise, Darksiders, Halo franchise, Gears of War franchise, Batman Arkham Asylum/City franchise, Borderlands, Uncharted I and II, the list goes on and on

Like I said, Nitendo has classic great games, but you just can't compare things like Mario and whatever else the wii has to some of the juggernaut titles on the better, more advanced systems

AzatiS

Now those are great games. I love Assassin't Creed. God of War, also a great franchise, but I think I might have heard that God of War 3 will be the last one, not sure though. I have Dragon Age on the PC and that's pretty good. Geras of War is a good farnchise, but I don't think it's really fair tolist that and God of War when they're exclusives totwo different systems.inFamout is all right, except for the parts where I got stuck on walls. Haven't played Red Dead Redemption yet but I've heard it's an amazing game. I don't know anything about Darksiders or Heavy Rain. Batman Arkham Asylum I've also heard great things about.

However, I think you can still compare Mario and other Nintendo franchises to some of those games. Super Mario Galaxy 2 got a 10. The Metroid Prime series is one of the most revered FPSs out there and you can buy on the Wii now. Twilight Princess was a good game, although it wasn't my favorite Zelda in the world and I only gave it an 8.0 in my review for it. Kirby's Epic Yarn has gotten an average of 9.0 despite being possbilythe easiest game out there. With the exception of Gamespy all of the Donkey Kong Country Returns scores have been very high, even Gameinformer gave it an 9.5. And the Wii does have a few well known M rated titles for their hardcore players. Mad World got fairly good marks, as did No More Heroes and Dead Space Extraction.Other lesser known gamesthat haverecievedgreat reviews Sin and Punishment: Star Sucessor, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Do you know whats the difference here? That for Wii , you mentioned as the best N games , rehashes since 1990 once again. When for X360/PS3 combo you mentioned AT LEAST 3-4 NEW ips that are AAA. And dont bring up games as Dead space extraction , tatsuunoko vs capcom etc etc because for example original Dead Space and games like Street fighter 4 or Marvel vs capcom etc etc ... kills everything you mentioning as "good".... So you get my point

Rehashes since 1990? You wanna see rehashes? Play Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto. Those are real rehashes.At least the Wii doesn't crap out generic shooter after shooter. And what are these great combos that you speak of?

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I don't understand why people cannot get past graphics. Yes we know that the Wii isn't up to par with the 360 and PS3. Nintendo never claimed it was. Why are we still arguing over this 4 years later? The Wii still has some of the best games this gen! Best platformer = SMG2, best fighter = SSBB. (imo of course) And out of this latest FPS releases I have had the most fun with Goldeneye Wii. But oh no the graphics!!!11!!11!1 They didn't keep me from having fun. If you are that shallow and deny yourself of fun because of textures and polygons then I feel bad for you. Before Goldeneye came out the game I played the most for the for weeks was a baseball game on my android phone. SNES graphics at best. But fun is fun. Stop fighting over pretty pictures folks it's silly.
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#344 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]Oh okay then, let's see a few games then that aren't also on the Gamecube.Demonjoe93

All made with Gamecube architecture.

And how is that? It seems like unless it's HD you'll rip on the graphics no matter how good they are.

Because the Wii uses Gamecube architecture? Its a modified Gecko and Hollywood with a little more RAM. HD is just resolution BTW, I think we were all expecting a leap from last gen. Its only natural to assume. There is nothing on Wii thats a leap ahead of last gen, show me all the SMG pics you want. Saying the graphics look nice for its capabilities is all fine and well, but don't even bother putting it in the same league as the PS360. There is a whole generation of difference.
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#345 foxhound_fox
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That for Wii , you mentioned as the best N games , rehashes since 1990 once again. AzatiS

*sigh*

Someone clearly hasn't played the games. And when you have something that works, why change it? All you need to do is improve on it. "Rehashing" Mario is one of the best things Nintendo has done... and it shows when you play a game like New Super Mario Bros. or Super Mario Galaxy on the Wii... they are so refined from 25 and 10 years (respectively) of experimentation, that changing the formula drastically (SMS) has created good games, but not ones that you feel like returning to again and again. NSMBW combines everything that is good about all the previous 2D games, with none of the bad, with a bunch of new stuff (wall-jumping for instance, adds an entirely new depth to the gameplay; and for me, makes playing the old ones feel clunky by comparison).

I've come to notice something over the past little while. The "best" games are the ones that use established formulas, and take out what didn't work and try something new. Starting from scratch usually gives you a poorly contrived game that ends up being good, but not great. They can be fun and all... but aren't the games you are going to be coming back to in 5, 10 and 20 years. Those will be the highly refined games that perfected that type of game for that period in time.

I've also noticed a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to criticisms laid against Nintendo. Do you play Call of Duty, Medal of Honor and Grand Theft Auto IV? Because if you do... those games have been "rehashed" for the last decade as well... more so than any Nintendo game like Mario. All they have done is add better graphics and physics to the same formula that existed 10 years ago... without improving on anything. Hell, with a game like Call of Duty, Infinity Ward only devolved its quality since the start. Hell, up until MW2, they were still using Quake 3 engine code in some places. I also hear Black Ops plays itself.

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I don't understand why people cannot get past graphics. Yes we know that the Wii isn't up to par with the 360 and PS3. Nintendo never claimed it was. Why are we still arguing over this 4 years later? The Wii still has some of the best games this gen! Best platformer = SMG2, best fighter = SSBB. (imo of course) And out of this latest FPS releases I have had the most fun with Goldeneye Wii. But oh no the graphics!!!11!!11!1 They didn't keep me from having fun. If you are that shallow and deny yourself of fun because of textures and polygons then I feel bad for you. Before Goldeneye came out the game I played the most for the for weeks was a baseball game on my android phone. SNES graphics at best. But fun is fun. Stop fighting over pretty pictures folks it's silly.GoldenElementXL
Wrong, they claimed the graphics would be competitiive and make you ''wow'' (SMG doesn't make me say ''wow'' at all). Its not all about graphics either but the computing power that helps designers realise their ambitions.
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] All made with Gamecube architecture.tomarlyn

And how is that? It seems like unless it's HD you'll rip on the graphics no matter how good they are.

Because the Wii uses Gamecube architecture? Its a modified Gecko and Hollywood with a little more RAM. HD is just resolution BTW, I think we were all expecting a leap from last gen. Its only natural to assume. There is nothing on Wii thats a leap ahead of last gen, show me all the SMG pics you want. Saying the graphics look nice for its capabilities is all fine and well, but don't even bother putting it in the same league as the PS360. There is a whole generation of difference.

And despite the disparity in graphics capabilities we see which companies were forced to conform in order to compete. If the Wii is such an embarrassment to gaming why did Sony and Microsoft jump on the motion control bandwagon??? Which in a way defines what the "generation of difference" really is this gen. It is not graphics but controls.
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[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"]I don't understand why people cannot get past graphics. Yes we know that the Wii isn't up to par with the 360 and PS3. Nintendo never claimed it was. Why are we still arguing over this 4 years later? The Wii still has some of the best games this gen! Best platformer = SMG2, best fighter = SSBB. (imo of course) And out of this latest FPS releases I have had the most fun with Goldeneye Wii. But oh no the graphics!!!11!!11!1 They didn't keep me from having fun. If you are that shallow and deny yourself of fun because of textures and polygons then I feel bad for you. Before Goldeneye came out the game I played the most for the for weeks was a baseball game on my android phone. SNES graphics at best. But fun is fun. Stop fighting over pretty pictures folks it's silly.tomarlyn
Wrong, they claimed the graphics would be competitiive and make you ''wow'' (SMG doesn't make me say ''wow'' at all). Its not all about graphics either but the computing power that helps designers realise their ambitions.

Ok you find me a quote where Nintendo said that the Wii could compete with the other two graphically. And mind you that "make you wow" and being on par with PS3 and 360 are two very different things. And how are ambitions only realized through graphical capabilities? If a designers only ambition was to make the best looking game possible then I would feel sorry for him or her and that would be one game I would NOT want to play.
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]@tomarly Can't blame em. The Wii version is much popular making the GC version forgettable.tomarlyn
Sorry Lambo but TP actually plays a lot better with the controller it was designed for. When people play SS they'll realise how bad TP's controls really are.

Thats what you think. Playing it with the GC controller is lame
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#350 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="phantom_blade66"]

Why does everyone go right to Call of Duty? But no

God of War franchise, Heavy Rain, Dragon Age, Demon's Souls, inFamous franchise, Red Dead Redemption, Assassin's Creed franchise, Darksiders, Halo franchise, Gears of War franchise, Batman Arkham Asylum/City franchise, Borderlands, Uncharted I and II, the list goes on and on

Like I said, Nitendo has classic great games, but you just can't compare things like Mario and whatever else the wii has to some of the juggernaut titles on the better, more advanced systems

Now those are great games. I love Assassin't Creed. God of War, also a great franchise, but I think I might have heard that God of War 3 will be the last one, not sure though. I have Dragon Age on the PC and that's pretty good. Geras of War is a good farnchise, but I don't think it's really fair tolist that and God of War when they're exclusives totwo different systems.inFamout is all right, except for the parts where I got stuck on walls. Haven't played Red Dead Redemption yet but I've heard it's an amazing game. I don't know anything about Darksiders or Heavy Rain. Batman Arkham Asylum I've also heard great things about.

However, I think you can still compare Mario and other Nintendo franchises to some of those games. Super Mario Galaxy 2 got a 10. The Metroid Prime series is one of the most revered FPSs out there and you can buy on the Wii now. Twilight Princess was a good game, although it wasn't my favorite Zelda in the world and I only gave it an 8.0 in my review for it. Kirby's Epic Yarn has gotten an average of 9.0 despite being possbilythe easiest game out there. With the exception of Gamespy all of the Donkey Kong Country Returns scores have been very high, even Gameinformer gave it an 9.5. And the Wii does have a few well known M rated titles for their hardcore players. Mad World got fairly good marks, as did No More Heroes and Dead Space Extraction.Other lesser known gamesthat haverecievedgreat reviews Sin and Punishment: Star Sucessor, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

Do you know whats the difference here? That for Wii , you mentioned as the best N games , rehashes since 1990 once again. When for X360/PS3 combo you mentioned AT LEAST 3-4 NEW ips that are AAA. And dont bring up games as Dead space extraction , tatsuunoko vs capcom etc etc because for example original Dead Space and games like Street fighter 4 or Marvel vs capcom etc etc ... kills everything you mentioning as "good".... So you get my point

And here we go again, you're allying the Ps3 and 360 together which shows how weak they are. You think MvC3, SF4 and DS pwn those games? I can think the opposite.