The Witcher 2 is best on PC.

Indeed, i still play many 2D adventures on PC

loosingENDS

Only games your PC can run.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Your card does not cover it. The specs of your card are complete and utter sh*t. Even if the card as a DX11 mode, that does not mean that your card has enough stream processor cores or a high enough shader/core/memory clock. Why do you think you get 15 fps most of the game? Because your card is not up to spec. DX11 doesn't make a damn difference.

I refuse to believe that you have a PhD or have been working on a game at all, you're so full of sh*t, it's coming out of your fingernails and ears. You have no idea what system hardware is and what it consists of. You have no idea that DX11 and DX9 applications aren't different unless specifically coded for that specific API(which means that your DX11 card is worthless for The Witcher 2). You also are on here all day, every day, boasting about your "superior" foliage, shadows, garbage and any other crap with no punctuation, tons of spelling errors, and a knack for idiocy.

Bebi_vegeta

I know everything you say, dont play smart with me, wont work

Try to learn how graphics work, then we can talk

My card is compltly and utterly up to spec as far as DX9 spec goes, the image quality i get is the exact image quality that any DX9 card would give

That is why it is called a unified protocol, because everyone with a DX9 card can see all DX9 effects and rendering, no matter the power of the card

Otherwise what would be the meaning of a DX11 low end card that cant run any of the DX11 effects ? Are you even serious ?

So, try to not play smart when you actually have no idea what you are talking about at all

I know the average age here is below 15, but i did not expect hermits here to be way below that

When i was 15, i knew more about PC than you will probably learn in your whole life time

You don't even pass the recommended specs... not sure if you even pass the minimum.

And what does that have to do with anything ?

And what does that have to do with anything ?

loosingENDS

Having a DX9 compatible card does not mean you will be able to render the game at close to playable frames or at a remotely high resolution. It simply means that it is compliant with DX9. Which, in and of itself, means f*ck all.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

And what does that have to do with anything ?

lundy86_4

Having a DX9 compatible card does not mean you will be able to render the game at close to playable frames or at a remotely high resolution. It simply means that it is compliant with DX9. Which, in and of itself, means f*ck all.

Not really, it means that you can get the full range of DX9 effects and rendering

Which means the pics i take are the exact same quality as those from any other DX9 and above PC

Only the frame rate is different

Not really, it means that you can get the full range of DX9 effects and rendering

Which means the pics i take are the exactly same quality as those from any other DX9 and above PC

Only the frame rate is different

loosingENDS

Again, in terms of DX9 compatability, yes. In terms of displaying the exact same... Bullsh*t. My proof? The fact that your card can't even render Geralt's legs.

There is more to running a game than the DX version a card is capable of rendering.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Not really, it means that you can get the full range of DX9 effects and rendering

Which means the pics i take are the exactly same quality as those from any other DX9 and above PC

Only the frame rate is different

lundy86_4

Again, in terms of DX9 compatability, yes. In terms of displaying the exact same... Bullsh*t. My proof? The fact that your card can't even render Geralt's legs.

There is more to running a game than the DX version a card is capable of rendering.

A bug with his legs is proof ?

You really have no idea what you are talking about

Plus i went to the manu, wear the trousers again and the legs appeared, so .... good luck with your "proof"

And no, there is not more, i can run any game in any setting, try to learn what DX is about and we can discuss it

Remember that run does not mean in playable frame rates, just run at any frame rate the card will output

PC = dead platform

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I know everything you say, dont play smart with me, wont work

Try to learn how graphics work, then we can talk

My card is compltly and utterly up to spec as far as DX9 spec goes, the image quality i get is the exact image quality that any DX9 card would give

That is why it is called a unified protocol, because everyone with a DX9 card can see all DX9 effects and rendering, no matter the power of the card

Otherwise what would be the meaning of a DX11 low end card that cant run any of the DX11 effects ? Are you even serious ?

So, try to not play smart when you actually have no idea what you are talking about at all

I know the average age here is below 15, but i did not expect hermits here to be way below that

When i was 15, i knew more about PC than you will probably learn in your whole life time

loosingENDS

You don't even pass the recommended specs... not sure if you even pass the minimum.

And what does that have to do with anything ?

You having a Dx11 videocard makes no difference... since the game is not Dx10 or Dx11... so don't say you above recommendation because your card supports Dx11. Your Video card does not even meet recommended specs, the end.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I know everything you say, dont play smart with me, wont work

Try to learn how graphics work, then we can talk

My card is compltly and utterly up to spec as far as DX9 spec goes, the image quality i get is the exact image quality that any DX9 card would give

That is why it is called a unified protocol, because everyone with a DX9 card can see all DX9 effects and rendering, no matter the power of the card

Otherwise what would be the meaning of a DX11 low end card that cant run any of the DX11 effects ? Are you even serious ?

So, try to not play smart when you actually have no idea what you are talking about at all

I know the average age here is below 15, but i did not expect hermits here to be way below that

When i was 15, i knew more about PC than you will probably learn in your whole life time

wis3boi

You don't even pass the recommended specs... not sure if you even pass the minimum.

A bug with his legs is proof ?

You really have no idea what you are talking about

Plus i went to the manu, wear the trousers again and the legs appeared, so .... good luck with your "proof"

And no, there is not more, i can run any game in any setting, try to learn what DX is about and we can discuss it

Remember that run does not mean in playable frame rates, just run at any frame rate the card will output

loosingENDS

Proof that something is being rendered incorrectly... Yes :?

My bad, we're talking about the 5450 (a horribly low-end card). Regardless, it's apparent that if it cannot render something properly, there is no indication that everything is being rendered correctly.

Why are we even talking about rendering screens anyway (something your card is incapable of doing, due to being incompatible with The Witcher 2)?

PC = dead platform

LazySloth718

Yet it's still alive... pwned!

PC = dead platform

LazySloth718

PC = dead platform

LazySloth718

It has a high number of exclusives releasing for it, and also has high-scoring games releasing for it. I would attribute garnering no games with a dead platform (i.e. the SNES is a dead platform).

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

A bug with his legs is proof ?

You really have no idea what you are talking about

Plus i went to the manu, wear the trousers again and the legs appeared, so .... good luck with your "proof"

And no, there is not more, i can run any game in any setting, try to learn what DX is about and we can discuss it

Remember that run does not mean in playable frame rates, just run at any frame rate the card will output

lundy86_4

Proof that something is being rendered incorrectly... Yes :?

My bad, we're talking about the 5450 (a horribly low-end card). Regardless, it's apparent that if it cannot render something properly, there is no indication that everything is being rendered correctly.

Why are we even talking about rendering screens anyway (something your card is incapable of doing, due to being incompatible with The Witcher 2)?

Are you kidding ?

Everything is rendered exactly like in any DX9 card, that is what DX is all about

The legs was a bug and they reapeared, the system can definatly render them, you just try to grasp from straws

Do you even have a PC ? FIrst time i read about a DX9 card that cant do DX9 effects, that is hapening only in hermit land of dillusion

My card is not incompatible with Witcher 2, it is 100% compatible and can render everything any other Dx9 can, just not in good frame rates

PC has first party titles?

Who makes them?

Oh yeah, third parties.

And if it sells over 500k, they port em to consoles.

That's what PC is nowadays, a "lets throw schit against the wall and see what sticks" platform.

Are you kidding ?

Everything is rendered exactly like in any DX9 card, that is what DX is all about

The legs was a bug and they reapeared, the system can definatly render them, you just try to grasp from straws

Do you even have a PC ? FIrst time i read about a DX9 card that cant do DX9 effects, that is hapening only in hermit land of dillusion

loosingENDS

I know what DX is about. However, the fact that your card is incompatible with the game --and has rendering issues because of that -- undermines the idea that it is rendering everything correctly. Simple reasoning.

Yes, I have a PC. Thanks Saolin/Obamanian/etc.

Regardless, why are we discussing this?

PC has first party titles?

Who makes them?

Oh yeah, third parties.

And if it sells over 500k, they port em to consoles.

That's what PC is nowadays, a "lets throw schit against the wall and see what sticks" platform.

LazySloth718

Meh, games are still better then console. 3rd party FTW.

PC has first party titles?

Who makes them?

Oh yeah, third parties.

And if it sells over 500k, they port em to consoles.

That's what PC is nowadays, a "lets throw schit against the wall and see what sticks" platform.

LazySloth718

A PC needs first-party titles to be considered "alive"?

It has plenty of exclusives that stay exclusive.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Are you kidding ?

Everything is rendered exactly like in any DX9 card, that is what DX is all about

The legs was a bug and they reapeared, the system can definatly render them, you just try to grasp from straws

Do you even have a PC ? FIrst time i read about a DX9 card that cant do DX9 effects, that is hapening only in hermit land of dillusion

lundy86_4

I know what DX is about. However, the fact that your card is incompatible with the game --and has rendering issues because of that -- undermines the idea that it is rendering everything correctly. Simple reasoning.

Yes, I have a PC. Thanks Saolin/Obamanian/etc.

Regardless, why are we discussing this?

My card does not have rendering issues, that was a bug of the game, which was fixed right after i went to the menu

So, how do you explain that with your "simple reasoning" ?

My card does not have rendering issues, that was a bug of the game, which was fixed right after i went to the menu

So, how do you explain that with your "simple reasoning" ?

loosingENDS

Mhmm, in which the card had rendering issues with his legs. It is a bug of the game. I didn't refute, nor deny that. However, it undermines the idea that your card is rendering everything correctly in-game. The software is having issues due to your card being incompatible, or not officially supported. Meaning, that any number of "hiccups" can occur.

The fact that a bug occurred due to your card not being officially supported, directly resulted in a rendering issue, only solidifies the idea that it may not be the only issue in terms of rendering.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

My card does not have rendering issues, that was a bug of the game, which was fixed right after i went to the menu

So, how do you explain that with your "simple reasoning" ?

lundy86_4

Mhmm, in which the card had rendering issues with his legs. It is a bug of the game. I didn't refute, nor deny that. However, it undermines the idea that your card is rendering everything correctly in-game. The software is having issues due to your card being incompatible, or not officially supported. Meaning, that any number of "hiccups" can occur.

The fact that a bug occurred due to your card not being officially supported, directly resulted in a rendering issue, only solidifies the idea that it may not be the only issue in terms of rendering.

How is my card not supported ?

http://www.destructoid.com/the-witcher-2-s-system-requirements-are-reasonable-197264.phtml

Minimum specs:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD 2.5 GHz equivalent
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800, 512 MB memory or ATI HD3850 512 MB
Memory: 1 GB for Windows XP / 2 GB for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Disk: 8 GB for the game installation and 8 GB for bonus materials

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I have an ATI HD 5450 really, which is way above minimum spec

So, you have some actual proof that my card is not supported ? Or are you just making things up ?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

My card does not have rendering issues, that was a bug of the game, which was fixed right after i went to the menu

So, how do you explain that with your "simple reasoning" ?

loosingENDS

Mhmm, in which the card had rendering issues with his legs. It is a bug of the game. I didn't refute, nor deny that. However, it undermines the idea that your card is rendering everything correctly in-game. The software is having issues due to your card being incompatible, or not officially supported. Meaning, that any number of "hiccups" can occur.

The fact that a bug occurred due to your card not being officially supported, directly resulted in a rendering issue, only solidifies the idea that it may not be the only issue in terms of rendering.

How is my card not supported ?

http://www.destructoid.com/the-witcher-2-s-system-requirements-are-reasonable-197264.phtml

Minimum specs:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD 2.5 GHz equivalent
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800, 512 MB memory or ATI HD3850 512 MB
Memory: 1 GB for Windows XP / 2 GB for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Disk: 8 GB for the game installation and 8 GB for bonus materials

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I have an ATI HD 5450 really, which is way above minimum spec

Enough said about loosingends gaming ability.... http://www.hwcompare.com/458/geforce-8800-gt-512mb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/ /thread04dcarraher

And where does it say that a 5450 wont render the game with same effects and image quality as a 8800 ?

I dont see it

How is my card not supported ?

http://www.destructoid.com/the-witcher-2-s-system-requirements-are-reasonable-197264.phtml

Minimum specs:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD 2.5 GHz equivalent
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800, 512 MB memory or ATI HD3850 512 MB
Memory: 1 GB for Windows XP / 2 GB for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Disk: 8 GB for the game installation and 8 GB for bonus materials

.

I have an ATI HD 5450 really, which is way above minimum spec

loosingENDS

That doesn't say much. Being above minimum spec doesn't necessarily mean a card is officially supported. Your card may be officially supported, and I could be wrong, still, it doesn't change the rest of my argument regarding issues rendering.

Unfortunately, I canno find a list of officially supported GPU's.

Regardless, i'm not even sure your GPU meets minimum spec. It's weaker than the 3850 AFAIK.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Enough said about loosingends gaming ability.... http://www.hwcompare.com/458/geforce-8800-gt-512mb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/ /threadloosingENDS

And where does it say that a 5450 wont render the game with same effects and image quality as a 8800 ?

I dont see it

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How is my card not supported ?

http://www.destructoid.com/the-witcher-2-s-system-requirements-are-reasonable-197264.phtml

Minimum specs:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD 2.5 GHz equivalent
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800, 512 MB memory or ATI HD3850 512 MB
Memory: 1 GB for Windows XP / 2 GB for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Disk: 8 GB for the game installation and 8 GB for bonus materials

.

I have an ATI HD 5450 really, which is way above minimum spec

lundy86_4

That doesn't say much. Being above minimum spec doesn't necessarily mean a card is officially supported. Your card may be officially supported, and I could be wrong, still, it doesn't change the rest of my argument regarding issues rendering.

Unfortunately, I canno find a list of officially supported GPU's.

My card is fully supported obviously, like any DX9 and above card

The suggested minimum specs is to run the game in good frame rates, not the bare minimum to run the game in 1fps of course

but any DX9 game will play in any DX9 card, that is what DX9 is about

I am still waiting to see some proof that a DX11 card will not render certain Withcer 2 effects because is not high end

Micro - Nano robotics is the title, which in reality is actually control of micro robotic devices to do tasks with nano precision and formulate a generalized trajectory plan, obstacle avoidance in unstructured environments etc

loosingENDS

So you're supposedly either an automation, mechanical or materials engineer, and that means you supposedly know something about electronics too.

But you can't get through your skull that TW2 on X360 looks worse than on PC?

Yyyeah, right...

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How is my card not supported ?

http://www.destructoid.com/the-witcher-2-s-system-requirements-are-reasonable-197264.phtml

Minimum specs:
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD 2.5 GHz equivalent
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800, 512 MB memory or ATI HD3850 512 MB
Memory: 1 GB for Windows XP / 2 GB for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Disk: 8 GB for the game installation and 8 GB for bonus materials

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I have an ATI HD 5450 really, which is way above minimum spec

loosingENDS

That doesn't say much. Being above minimum spec doesn't necessarily mean a card is officially supported. Your card may be officially supported, and I could be wrong, still, it doesn't change the rest of my argument regarding issues rendering.

Unfortunately, I canno find a list of officially supported GPU's.

My card is fully supported obviously, like any DX9 and above card

The suggested minimum specs is to run the game in good frame rates, not the bare minimum to run the game in 1fps of course

but any DX9 game will play in any DX9 card, that is what DX9 is about

I am still waiting to see some proof that a DX11 card will not render certain Withcer 2 effects because is not high end

heres one of famous stupid quotes

loosingENDS wrote:

My PC is not a gaming PC in the sense that does not have a GPU that will run games in playable frame rates, other than that is a DX11 GPU that will run any game in any setting

Whats the point in just rendering it when you only get 15fps on lowest settings. GPU performance determines how fast a gpu can render the items on screen, The more processing power the more you can render without taking compromises to graphical settings and framerate which is why the 360 version of TW2 wont be "beyond stunning"... compared to Pc version with medium or above graphic settings and resolution.04dcarraher

But 360 runs the game above medium on PC, so how exactly wont look beyond stunning ?

Medium and Ultra have minor difference at 720p resolution, which my HDTV uses

My card is fully supported obviously, like any DX9 and above card

The suggested specs is to run the game in good frame rates, not the bare minimum to run the game in 1fps, but any DX9 game will play in any DX9 card, that is what DX9 is about

I am still waiting to see some proof that a DX11 card will not render certain Withcer 2 effects because is not high end

loosingENDS

Nothing was made obvious. Your card is weaker than a 3850 AFAIK. 3850 is minimum.

Also, I never said that it would not absolutely render certain effects. The fact that your card clearly has rendering issues with regards to the game, calls into question the validity of it being able to render all effects correctly.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Whats the point in just rendering it when you only get 15fps on lowest settings. GPU performance determines how fast a gpu can render the items on screen, The more processing power the more you can render without taking compromises to graphical settings and framerate which is why the 360 version of TW2 wont be "beyond stunning"... compared to Pc version with medium or above graphic settings and resolution.loosingENDS

But 360 runs the game above medium on PC, so how exactly wont look beyond stunning ?

Medium and Ultra have minor difference at 720p resolution, which my HDTV uses

Your an idiot,

heres one of famous stupid quotes

loosingENDS wrote:

My PC is not a gaming PC in the sense that does not have a GPU that will run games in playable frame rates, other than that is a DX11 GPU that will run any game in any setting

04dcarraher

What is stupid about it ? My PC can run any DX11 and below game obviously, the frame rate depends on how heavy the game is

You call me an idiot, when you cant even understand simple PC stuff, that is precious

No it does not running above medium setting stop being delusional , You you need your eyes and head checked.....04dcarraher

It runs it above medium, as shown in every video and as developers confirmed

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No it does not running above medium setting stop being delusional , You you need your eyes and head checked.....loosingENDS

It runs it above medium, as shown in every video and as developers confirmed

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No it does not running above medium setting stop being delusional , You you need your eyes and head checked.....loosingENDS

It runs it above medium, as shown in every video and as developers confirmed

developpers confirmed medium settings... and video are very ugly.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No it does not running above medium setting stop being delusional , You you need your eyes and head checked.....04dcarraher

It runs it above medium, as shown in every video and as developers confirmed

Sure, you know better than the developers

Well, not really

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It runs it above medium, as shown in every video and as developers confirmed

loosingENDS

Sure, you know better than the developers

Well, not really

developpers confirmed medium settings... and video are very ugly.

Bebi_vegeta

Video is heavilly compressed and probably off screen too

Here is PC in medium, high and Ultra in 360 resolution

The difference is minor, 360 version will look spectacular, that is all

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Also has far better shadows than the crappy PC ones in any setting

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Enough said about loosingends gaming ability.... http://www.hwcompare.com/458/geforce-8800-gt-512mb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/ /threadloosingENDS

And where does it say that a 5450 wont render the game with same effects and image quality as a 8800 ?

I dont see it

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Enough said about loosingends gaming ability.... http://www.hwcompare.com/458/geforce-8800-gt-512mb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/ /threadDamnsmooth

And where does it say that a 5450 wont render the game with same effects and image quality as a 8800 ?

I dont see it

Really ?

Well, that is not proof, that is a joke

Try more next time

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

developpers confirmed medium settings... and video are very ugly.

loosingENDS

Video is heavilly compressed and probably off screen too

Here is PC in medium, high and Ultra in 360 resolution

The difference is minor, 360 version will look spectacular, that is all

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Also has far better shadows than the crappy PC ones in any setting

That's not the point... you said above medium, dev say they aim for medium...

Also take a picture at the sun... you'll see difference there.

Really ?

Well, that is not proof, that is a joke

Try more next time

loosingENDS

5450 is drastically weaker than a 3850:

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Really ?

Well, that is not proof, that is a joke

Try more next time

lundy86_4

5450 is drastically weaker than a 3850:

Yes, so ?

I know it is weaker, i happen to own one

Where is the proof that wont render all Witcher 2 DX9 effects because is weaker ?

I still dont see it

Speculation wont do, sorry, proof is not speculation

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

developpers confirmed medium settings... and video are very ugly.

Bebi_vegeta

Video is heavilly compressed and probably off screen too

Here is PC in medium, high and Ultra in 360 resolution

The difference is minor, 360 version will look spectacular, that is all

.

Also has far better shadows than the crappy PC ones in any setting

That's not the point... you said above medium, dev say they aim for medium...

Also take a picture at the sun... you'll see difference there.

But it's missing the effect that covers everything in saran wrap and the black hole shadows. Jebus213

Black hole shadows are better than garbage shadows on PC, that is for sure

Here is the glory of Witcher 2 with Ubersampling on with everything maxed out. These SS's dont do the game justice, but they are the best i could do. The game looks much better when actually playing it.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

developpers confirmed medium settings... and video are very ugly.

Bebi_vegeta

Video is heavilly compressed and probably off screen too

Here is PC in medium, high and Ultra in 360 resolution

The difference is minor, 360 version will look spectacular, that is all

.

Also has far better shadows than the crappy PC ones in any setting

That's not the point... you said above medium, dev say they aim for medium...

Comparable does not mean a carbon copy, nor does it surpasses it means close, almost but not quite, which means there will be low quality graphics in the mix. All the videos and pictures of the 360 version are either bullshots, compressed video (which still shows you lack of detail and items,short draw distances too),