The XBOX 360 is going to hold back GTA4 from Meeting it's potential

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The Xbox 360 may be "holding GTA 4 back" but the PS3 also presents enormous challenges for Rockstar to overcome.

"To be honest with you we haven't solved all those riddles yet." The difficulties aren't limited to working on Microsoft's box, as Houser explains that "both have enormous challenges" and that "both have their own particular pleasures and pains".

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163233

Next time, before you start to think that the Xbox 360 is the only one holding GTA 4 back, at least have all your facts straight.

The_Game21x

I posted that quote before you! :evil:

My quote...leave it alone, ya big meanie!

Not the quote I'm talking about.

I'm talking about when the guy at rockstar said that the DVD was holding them back.

Just becuase they said "they both have problems" means nothing. It's obvious it was the 360 version becuase they talked about having problems with the DVD in the Past.

Dude, it's as plain as can be. Dan Houser, the creative VP at Rockstar said that BOTH systems have their own respective problems.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you THINK is the case here. He actually works for the company making the game in question. I think I'll take his word over yours any day.

fail, you need to look at the article.

notice how he said they both have problems AFTER he talked about how much the DVD holds them back. Notice how he didn't pinpoint any issues with the PS3. He just had to say that obviousl, just becuase he's supposed to look neurtral on it.

You can go back months ago before though when someone from Rockstar said ;I hope we don't have to use DVD again".

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Developer's confirmation > Some guy's opinion on System Wars

Out_Kast3000

Rockstar has already said that the DVD is going to hold them back in development. Look it up.

They also said PS3's memory issues are holding it back as well.

BTW, all the trailers and images we've seen of the game so far have been the 360 version. Explain that.

They started development on the 360 version first.

PS3 version will still be better in the end though.

You dont even have any idea about your own system do you? :lol:

"According to a Rockstar spokesperson, development originally began on the Xbox 360 because earlier development access was available"

From Wikipedia

"According to a Rockstar spokesperson, development originally began on the Xbox 360 because earlier development access was available"

From Wikipedia

Out_Kast3000

Aww, i've been owned. But for some reason, you forgot the other half of the quote

"According to a Rockstar spokesperson, development originally began on the Xbox 360 because earlier development access was available, but it has also been stressed that "there is no target console" and both versions will be technically very similar."

"According to a Rockstar spokesperson, development originally began on the Xbox 360 because earlier development access was available"

From Wikipedia

Out_Kast3000

wow what a source...omg wikipedia everything on that website must be true

[QUOTE="Kaosed"][QUOTE="Art_424"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Developer's confirmation > Some guy's opinion on System Wars

Out_Kast3000

Rockstar has already said that the DVD is going to hold them back in development. Look it up.

Just like heavenly sword was needed on Bluray to be 6 hrs long!:)

LOL u cant compete with that

owned

That was stupid becuase it didn't even have anything to do with what we're talking about. GTA is going to have like 100+ hours of content on it.

no its not cause hes crying that the 360 will make gta4 crappy because it doesnt use blu ray

mid-level reading skills FTW!

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The Xbox 360 may be "holding GTA 4 back" but the PS3 also presents enormous challenges for Rockstar to overcome.

"To be honest with you we haven't solved all those riddles yet." The difficulties aren't limited to working on Microsoft's box, as Houser explains that "both have enormous challenges" and that "both have their own particular pleasures and pains".

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163233

Next time, before you start to think that the Xbox 360 is the only one holding GTA 4 back, at least have all your facts straight.

Out_Kast3000

I posted that quote before you! :evil:

My quote...leave it alone, ya big meanie!

Not the quote I'm talking about.

I'm talking about when the guy at rockstar said that the DVD was holding them back.

Just becuase they said "they both have problems" means nothing. It's obvious it was the 360 version becuase they talked about having problems with the DVD in the Past.

Dude, it's as plain as can be. Dan Houser, the creative VP at Rockstar said that BOTH systems have their own respective problems.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you THINK is the case here. He actually works for the company making the game in question. I think I'll take his word over yours any day.

fail, you need to look at the article.

notice how he said they both have problems AFTER he talked about how much the DVD holds them back. Notice how he didn't pinpoint any issues with the PS3. He just had to say that obviousl, just becuase he's supposed to look neurtral on it.

You can go back months ago before though when someone from Rockstar said ;I hope we don't have to use DVD again".

And if you actually looked at the source of the interview in question. Now. Let's stop for a moment and think about this. Why would Houser bash the PS3 first in a Playstation only magazine?

Exhibit A: "During an interview with our partners in crime at Official PlayStation Magazine..."

Secondly, why would he immediately say something about the PS3 when the question that prompted the response was about potential problems with the Xbox 360 version of the game?

Exhibit B: Rockstar's creative vice president Dan Houser was asked: "On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard-drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, whereas on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard-drive and you're working with the DVD format. Does that create limitations?"

He didn't open up on the 360 just because, as you're trying to make it sound. He did so because he was prompted by the question.

Again. It doesn't change the fact that he said that both versions had their problems. This is not entirely the Xbox 360's fault. As much as you'd clearly like it to be.

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

"According to a Rockstar spokesperson, development originally began on the Xbox 360 because earlier development access was available"

From Wikipedia

snoz_dawg

wow what a source...omg wikipedia everything on that website must be true

especially when sony ppl have been caught editing stuff on that website!....lol

[QUOTE="snoz_dawg"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

"According to a Rockstar spokesperson, development originally began on the Xbox 360 because earlier development access was available"

From Wikipedia

Art_424

wow what a source...omg wikipedia everything on that website must be true

especially when sony ppl have been caught editing stuff on that website!....lol

does anyone has the screenshot of the xbox360 page saying?

THIS SUCKZ LOL!

Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!redneckdouglas

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!Art_424

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

[QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!Out_Kast3000

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

2 words for ya:

Damage Control!!!:D

[QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!Out_Kast3000

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

Then why are you complaining? Obviously you don't care if everytime we bring up the DLC you say "well no one ever finishes it anyways".

[QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!Out_Kast3000

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

This is your problem.

Well...looks like I'll be buying the PS3 version....majadamus

why? the PC version will have all that, and all the User created mods, easily 20x as much content

[QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!Out_Kast3000

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

dont worry, we will ;)

[QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!Out_Kast3000

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

:lol:So I guess you suddenlywork at Rockstar and can confirm how long the additional content is?

[QUOTE="majadamus"]Well...looks like I'll be buying the PS3 version....shadow_hosi

why? the PC version will have all that, and all the User created mods, easily 20x as much content

k/m ftl

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Developer's confirmation > Some guy's opinion on System Wars

Out_Kast3000

Rockstar has already said that the DVD is going to hold them back in development. Look it up.

They also said PS3's memory issues are holding it back as well.

BTW, all the trailers and images we've seen of the game so far have been the 360 version. Explain that.

They started development on the 360 version first.

PS3 version will still be better in the end though.

Tell me, do you always blatently lie without even attempting to provide references or reasoning behind your logic or is this just a System Wars thing?

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Developer's confirmation > Some guy's opinion on System Wars

Nonam3gamer

Rockstar has already said that the DVD is going to hold them back in development. Look it up.

They also said PS3's memory issues are holding it back as well.

BTW, all the trailers and images we've seen of the game so far have been the 360 version. Explain that.

They started development on the 360 version first.

PS3 version will still be better in the end though.

Tell me, do you always blatently lie and don't even attempt to provide references or reasoning behind your logic or is this just a System Wars thing?

hey he needs some attention:lol:

no matter how much you whine

no matter how much you hate

that wont make the ps3 any better

just get over it

Kaosed

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!The_Game21x

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

:lol:So I guess you suddenlywork at Rockstar and can confirm how long the additional content is?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!demonik_360

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

:lol:So I guess you suddenlywork at Rockstar and can confirm how long the additional content is?

Unless the DC is a full expansion, it'll be nowhere near that much. Shivering Isles on the 360 cost about $24 (with the MS points as currency) and it was a full expansion. Note: That's less than expansions released elsewhere are.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="Art_424"]

[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"]Very true even though I'm a XBOX360 guy. Larger storage for a GTA game = sweeeeeet!demonik_360

lol, how is that going to be a factor when the 360 has the most content?:shock: :lol:

Have fun paying 20 bucks for adding nothing, but 2 hours to a game that most people don't ever even finish and don't even do all the missions.

:lol:So I guess you suddenlywork at Rockstar and can confirm how long the additional content is?

Notice how I didn't say anything about price....

MS probably will charge out the ass for it. But hell, if it's anything like Shivering Isles (which cost 30 bucks but offered somewhere around 30 hours of extra content) then I'll be cool with it. A dollar per hour of extra content?I'd pay that.

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

AdobeArtist

Wrong

It's not powerful enough, and the biggest thing is it still uses the DVD(PS3 uses Blu-Ray).

This isn't a knock on the XBOX 360, it's just the truth, and Rockstar has already said it.

Rockstar is forced to dumb down the game so that both games will be at near the same level(even though the PS3 version will probably be better).

It sucks that it still isn't exclusive because the game would no doubt be better if it was exclusive to the PS3.

The cool thing about Unreal Tournament 3 is that the PS3 version is going to get all the great content. Epic isn't going to dumb downt he PS3 version so they'll be similar. The 360 version is going to have less content.

Out_Kast3000

lemmings got OWNED (again)

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

For once back up one of you foolish claims with actual facts.

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

It's not powerful enough, and the biggest thing is it still uses the DVD(PS3 uses Blu-Ray).

This isn't a knock on the XBOX 360, it's just the truth, and Rockstar has already said it.

Rockstar is forced to dumb down the game so that both games will be at near the same level(even though the PS3 version will probably be better).

It sucks that it still isn't exclusive because the game would no doubt be better if it was exclusive to the PS3.

The cool thing about Unreal Tournament 3 is that the PS3 version is going to get all the great content. Epic isn't going to dumb downt he PS3 version so they'll be similar. The 360 version is going to have less content.

Rikusaki

lemmings got OWNED (again)

says the guy with the ratchet avatar

It's not powerful enough, and the biggest thing is it still uses the DVD(PS3 uses Blu-Ray).

This isn't a knock on the XBOX 360, it's just the truth, and Rockstar has already said it.

Rockstar is forced to dumb down the game so that both games will be at near the same level(even though the PS3 version will probably be better).

It sucks that it still isn't exclusive because the game would no doubt be better if it was exclusive to the PS3.

The cool thing about Unreal Tournament 3 is that the PS3 version is going to get all the great content. Epic isn't going to dumb downt he PS3 version so they'll be similar. The 360 version is going to have less content.

Out_Kast3000

Link for that. Plus everyone is saying the reason for delay is because the ps3 version was having problems.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

:lol:

Gears of War was estimated by Epic to be using only 20% of the 360's full potential. I'm sorry, you're wrong...dead wrong.

Keep up your fanboy talk though. All Consoles get better over time in terms of visuals. Despite what your fanboy rationale wants to tell you, it's always been this way. Tell yourself what you need to feel better but, regardless you're wrong. I think you're just angry at how close the 360/PS3 are in terms of visuals. PS3's Memory is lacking when compared to the 360's and the 360's disc space is the only thing that is looked at by developers. Disc space is easily fixed (through compression) but memory in a console isn't. The 360 has more memory than the PS3 and that hurts the PS3. Not only that, the PS3 has a big bottleneck holding the console back and, on top of that, it's ridiculously tough to develop for. Just move on...your statements are false. Both have quality looking titles in the past and in the future...you take the fanboy route though. Go for it, it only makes you look worse.

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

It's not powerful enough, and the biggest thing is it still uses the DVD(PS3 uses Blu-Ray).

This isn't a knock on the XBOX 360, it's just the truth, and Rockstar has already said it.

Rockstar is forced to dumb down the game so that both games will be at near the same level(even though the PS3 version will probably be better).

It sucks that it still isn't exclusive because the game would no doubt be better if it was exclusive to the PS3.

The cool thing about Unreal Tournament 3 is that the PS3 version is going to get all the great content. Epic isn't going to dumb downt he PS3 version so they'll be similar. The 360 version is going to have less content.

sirk1264

Link for that. Plus everyone is saying the reason for delay is because the ps3 version was having problems.

PS3 version was the delay problem. With the disc space for the 360 they just compress further. With the PS3 version they were having massive problems with the lack of memory in the console. Whereas the 360 has more than enough Memory to suffice for any game, the PS3 lacks memory. That's their problem with the PS3 version. People will deny it but it's true. 360 has more memory than the PS3...quite a bit more.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

It's not powerful enough, and the biggest thing is it still uses the DVD(PS3 uses Blu-Ray).

This isn't a knock on the XBOX 360, it's just the truth, and Rockstar has already said it.

Rockstar is forced to dumb down the game so that both games will be at near the same level(even though the PS3 version will probably be better).

It sucks that it still isn't exclusive because the game would no doubt be better if it was exclusive to the PS3.

The cool thing about Unreal Tournament 3 is that the PS3 version is going to get all the great content. Epic isn't going to dumb downt he PS3 version so they'll be similar. The 360 version is going to have less content.

Kaosed

lemmings got OWNED (again)

says the guy with the ratchet avatar

i think hes cute, ok?!

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

Got something to back that up with? Yeah. Didn't think so :roll:

I'm petitioning that users must complete a course and be licensed before they can post :lol:

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

Give him reasons as to why the x360 won't get better. If you can't then just shut up.

Okay,

Gather around kids because I'm going to tell you a story about How PR works in the gaming media.

When a game is being developed on mutiple platforms, the developer "ALWAYS" displays the best verison of the game on the best system.

There are "NO" exceptions to this rule.

So far, only the 360s images of the game has been released of GTA4.

So, what have we learned tonight?

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

sirk1264

Wrong

Give him reasons as to why the x360 won't get better. If you can't then just shut up.

I'm not in the mood for arguing with someone who obviously has 0 knowledge on what he's talking about.

kthxbi

Okay,

Gather around kids because I'm going to tell you a story about How PR works in the gaming media.

When a game is being developed on mutiple platforms, the developer "ALWAYS" displays the best verison of the game on the best system.

There are "NO" exceptions to this rule.

So far, only the 360s images of the game has been released of GTA4.

So, what have we learned tonight?

Sdur001

that Outkast3000 and alot of cows are in denial!

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

Give him reasons as to why the x360 won't get better. If you can't then just shut up.

I'm not in the mood for arguing with someone who obviously has 0 knowledge on what he's talking about.

kthxbi

bye! the ps3 version will be better. if it isnt then i will make out with ratchet

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

great come back :roll:

[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

lawlessx

Wrong

great come back :roll:

i know, right?

"PS3 version will own the 360 version"

"Wrong"

"umm uhh... not.. wrong?"

lol hehehehe im so funny lol.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

Give him reasons as to why the x360 won't get better. If you can't then just shut up.

I'm not in the mood for arguing with someone who obviously has 0 knowledge on what he's talking about.

kthxbi

or..because you have just been owned and you have no clue on how to counter such a defeat.

[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Heavenly Sword. Lair. Uncharted. Neither game exceeding 10 hrs, all on Blu Ray.
Bioshock. Oblivion. The 1st being 20+ hrs, the 2nd being much much longer. And Mass Effect confirmed with several hrs of gameplay and numerous worlds to explore. On DVD9.

Cows, for your own sakes, give up the "Blu Ray Advantage" card. It's been shattered. Graphically X360 is equal to PS3 an in some cases better. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING on PS3 that X360 isn't capable of. I'll even go so far as to say MGS4 could technically be done on X360, licensing aside.

This is NOT a slam against PS3. I fully acredit it as a very capable console. But this whole argument "gameX that's on PS3 could never be done on X360 because it's hardware and media format is limited", has been completely blown out the window. And please PLEASE don't give me the tired old "just wait" either. Yes PS3 games will get better. So will X360 games.

Just give it up already.

Out_Kast3000

Wrong

Give him reasons as to why the x360 won't get better. If you can't then just shut up.

I'm not in the mood for arguing with someone who obviously has 0 knowledge on what he's talking about.

kthxbi

Now you know how we feel when we argue with you. :)