The Xbox 360 is the most innovative console of all time

Is this a joke topic?

[QUOTE="Sniper-PIG"]You didn't think this one through...lets have a look: Achievements - Basically unlockables with a new name and look. Wireless controller standard - This is innovative how? LOL Guide button - basically a start button with features, seen on the PSP b4 the 360 debuted. Detachable HDD - how is this innovative...consoles have had detachable units for years. warranty - NO, just NO...used only to mask the real issue and keep lawsuits out. Problem still lingers. Best controller - Its a dreamcast/cube controller thrown in one...nothing innovative..SORRY and besides...OPINION. Natal - isn't even OUT! haha Netflix - who cares. Xbox live - might give you this one. And yeah Sony is catching up, considering the 360 basically became the PS3 with its addons of HDMI, bigger HDD, HD-DVD, 1080p resolution. HAHA i'm done. :)AHUGECAT

Achievements - Basically unlockables that add to gamerscore and are very addicting

Wireless controller standard - no other system has had a wireless controller be standard

Guide button - a start button? LOL... it's NOTHNG like a start button and the PSP is a handheld machine. If the PSP innovated it then why is Sony's "guide button" a direct rip off of MS' guide button? That's right - MS innovated it

Detachable hard drive - the PS2 never came with a hard drive

Warranty - yes, just YES. When Sony's PS2's got DRE like crazy Sony said "HAHA! LOL @ YOU GUYS! NOW BUY ANOTHER PS2 SO WE CAN REACH 140 MILLION!" And the RROD is almost non-existant in new consoles

Best controller - yes, it is a dc/cube controller and it made it the best

NATAL - doesn't need to be out... already super innovative

Netflix - who cares? Tons of people do

HDMI, meh. Bigger HDD? That's not an innovation. HD DVD was for movies and not for games, and MS didn't even care about it all that much.

Achievements came first, I'll give MS that much. However, trophies are better. Unlike simply accumulating a number like achievements, trophies have different levels and they give you a bigger since of accomplishment. If you have a platinum trophy, people will know you're hardcore cause you have to get all the other trophies to get one. If you have a large gamerscore, people have no way of knowing if you completed games 100 percent, or if you just half-assed acollection of 100+ games unless they throughly check your achievements list. Trophies>>Achievements.

I believe the PSP was the first gaming device with a guide button, so obviously Sony was gonna put it in it's home console Or did you think Sony stole that from MS.:roll:

For FPS games, yes. For everything else, keep dreaming.

Is this a joke topic?

goblaa

I think it's a throwback to the cousin era of SW's, but it's funny watching people still feeding TC...

[QUOTE="Liquid_DC"]

sony never gave a warrenty, they just fixed it.no matter how long u had the system for, and that still was never a good thing. when u pay 300 plus for so,ething it should never break, its 2009,

MizFitAwesome

Which fully explains why they lost a lawsuit over it. Got snymore delusions?

I honestly cant believe this thread is still alive and wasint lost in the mist or locked

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_DC"]

sony never gave a warrenty, they just fixed it.no matter how long u had the system for, and that still was never a good thing. when u pay 300 plus for so,ething it should never break, its 2009,

Liquid_DC

Which fully explains why they lost a lawsuit over it. Got snymore delusions?

So when you can't win the argument, go back to your typical made up stories as to how EVERY 360 owner has encountered a RROD. Too bad you can't change the fact that Sony lost a lawsuit for passing off faulty equipment 5 years after launch....

That is the worst list I have ever seen in my entire life.

Innovative if you keep your head in the sand & ignore the competition completely, then yes extremely. Other innovations you did not include are... the lack of bluetooth technology (trust me you'd miss it if you knew)/lack of a web browser making twitter and facebook etc. extremely innovative additions/breakyest console in the history of gaming/adoption of rival consoles avatars and motion tech for extreme innovation to the max/support of last gen media format to insure innovation/innovatively leaving out wifi support, and oh yeah - the guide button.

A few console innovations because of the Xbox 360:

- Achievements. Gaming without achievements is no longer the same.
- Wireless controller standard
- Guide button
- Detachable hard drive
- Free three year warranty
- RTS, WRPGs and FPS that actually work on a console (incredible)
- Best controller ever
- Project Natal.... best non-controller ever
- Xbox Live Arcade
- Netflix
- Xbox Live Primetime (ie 1vs100)
- NXE
- XNA
and so much more

Sony keeps trying to catch up but just looks a poor imitation (their triggers for their DS3 are garbage compared to 360's, PSN is a joke compared to LIVE, Resistance and Killzone 2 are nothing compared to Gears/Halo 3, trophies aren't as good as achievements, etc. etc.).

A lot of people like the SNES and PS2... but those weren't really innovative consoles. PS2 especially. PS2 was so outdated it even only included 2 controller ports AND had no ethernet/hard drive!

AHUGECAT

the sad part is that tc truly believes the above...

Free three year warrantyAHUGECAT

The PS3 really is a wannabe Xbox 360.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAAH yes i agree HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAA. not really.

the sad part is that tc truly believes the above...

Malta_1980

You remind me of a certain other hardcore lemming that used to lurk in SW ;) Anyway I had a good laugh, you're MS check has been mailed.

The PS3 really is a wannabe Xbox 360.

rp108

That is the funniest list I have ever seen. Your opinion on the best controller 'ever' is innovation? :lol:

The TC made some good points and its normal for people to make fun and laugh over it..Thats fine its your opinions...I feel MS has taken online gaming and downloadable content to the next level for console gaming. NO DOUBT in my mind.


BUT...To me the most innovative would be the SegaDreamCast..It was full of surprises from day one and its too bad Sega just never could win over the masses

- Achievements. Gaming without achievements is no longer the same.

AHUGECAT

I'm guessing your 12 and have never played a game without achievements. Those and trophies are not even necessary by all means. Games didn't have them before this gen and they still are amazing.

You guys are still at this? Jeez. It's already 9:30 AM here.siLVURcross

A lot of people are saying the wii is innovative - but HOW? The Wiimote is only good for "non-games" like Cooking Mama, Surgeon Center or whatever.... it's NOT good for regular games which is why it has such poor third party support. Everything MS has done has pushed gaming forward like never before.

AHUGECAT

*looks at your sig* oh i see!

Free three year warrantyAHUGECAT

The TC made some good points and its normal for people to make fun and laugh over it..Thats fine its your opinions...I feel MS has taken online gaming and downloadable content to the next level for console gaming. NO DOUBT in my mind.


BUT...To me the most innovative would be the SegaDreamCast..It was full of surprises from day one and its too bad Sega just never could win over the masses

FunkyHeadHunter

its so fun when your xbox rrod's and you wait for 2 weeks to get a new one for FREE!!! ...even though it should of never been sent in. faulty machine. go buy a honda that does drives 40miles only then it breaks, but dont worry they fix it for free. would you get it? no. lol ps3 > 360 you're just scared ps3 slim will outshine xbox in every way possiblefifamessi

I love it how you parody the tc's sig.

- Achievements. Gaming without achievements is no longer the same.
- Wireless controller standard
- Guide button
- Detachable hard drive
- Free three year warranty
- RTS, WRPGs and FPS that actually work on a console (incredible)
- Best controller ever
- Project Natal.... best non-controller ever
- Xbox Live Arcade
- Netflix
- Xbox Live Primetime (ie 1vs100)
- NXE
- XNA
AHUGECAT

• I still don't get achievements. I don't need a little numbre after my name to have fun with games. Achievements and the gamerscore are just a way for developers to sell crappy games.
• Actually, when the 360 launched, it was the ONLY console this gen that didn't have standard wireless. Every controller on the PS3 and wii are wireless, but the 360 core system shipped with a wired controller.
• I assume you mean the "home" button on the controller? Every console has that this gen...
• So does the PS3... And the PS2...
• That's not an innovation. That's microsoft compensating for a problem they should have worked out by now.
• How does any of that make the console innovative? Those genres work on the 360 because developers were innovative in how they move the games to other platforms.
• No. The controller is horrible for just about anything except FPS's. It's like holding the blade of a knife.
• Strange how motion goes from being a gimmick to an innovation, isn't it?
• Downloading games happens on every console...
• It's been done on other things. And what that has to do with gaming is beyond me. And you an also rent movies on the ps3.
• That is pretty neat
• I have no idea what the last 2 stand for,

It has some neat innovations, but it is by no means the most innovative system ever.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]You guys are still at this? Jeez. It's already 9:30 AM here.Animal-Mother

I still don't get achievements. I don't need a little numbre after my name to have fun with games. BuryMe

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]You guys are still at this? Jeez. It's already 9:30 AM here.siLVURcross

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

NATAL - doesn't need to be out... already super innovative

LordQuorthon

This is probably the dumbest thing I've read here... And this is System Wars. If it's not the absolute number one, at least it's up there with "PC can't do HD", "Metroid is a robot" and "Einstein and Hitler lived in different time periods".

Somebody give this kid a trophy... I mean, an achievement!

I still want to see what's so innovative about Natal that doesn't also apply to the Wiimote. It's just a motion "controller."

Of all time? Honestly, I don't know what has to be done to get that title.

However, I agree that the Xbox 360 is innovative, but for slightly different, but related, reasons.

The 360 has redefined what it means to be online. Online is no longer just about being in a multiplayer match. It's about connecting to a larger, more cohesive community. How does that community stay cohesive? It uses a laundry list of features that are not only useful, but fully integrated into the system. They provide ways of interacting with the community outside of the console and has an active community staff.

For me, this is where the 360 really innovates.

Just finished reading the 20 pages and all I can say is... AHUGECAT for prez!MonsieurX

Sorry, but GCousin or Xcousin used to be able to drag a thread like this for over 600+ responses.

What I like is how TC is supposed to be a fanboy, even though you can look up his trophy history to see he actually played every game, yet the cows still expect us to beleive all of their stories about how they and everyone of their friends, neighbors and relatives are on their 3 or 4 360. Some of TC's PS3 are low, but at least he played them.

BTW, how come the cows have refused to answer my question, why is it that the GTA IV GS score of 10 too high, but the MGS4 10 legit?

I don't know if the 360 is the most innovative, but it's definitely the best console out right now.

Probably not the most inovative but easly one of the best. Still i agree Live Arcade was one of the best inovations on a lot time. It gave smaller devs the oportunity to put their games on the market and old school gamers to play some of the best 2D games.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Just finished reading the 20 pages and all I can say is... AHUGECAT for prez!MizFitAwesome

Sorry, but GCousin or Xcousin used to be able to drag a thread like this for over 600+ responses.

What I like is how TC is supposed to be a fanboy, even though you can look up his trophy history to see he actually played every game, yet the cows still expect us to beleive all of their stories about how they and everyone of their friends, neighbors and relatives are on their 3 or 4 360. Some of TC's PS3 are low, but at least he played them.

BTW, how come the cows have refused to answer my question, why is it that the GTA IV GS score of 10 too high, but the MGS4 10 legit?

I see no infamous or KZ2 trophies. I call BS. Also he jsut played 2 levels of LBP it seems. How do you review a game you didint even halfway beat.

A few console innovations because of the Xbox 360:

- Achievements. Gaming without achievements is no longer the same.
- Wireless controller standard
- Guide button
- Detachable hard drive
- Free three year warranty
- RTS, WRPGs and FPS that actually work on a console (incredible)
- Best controller ever
- Project Natal.... best non-controller ever
- Xbox Live Arcade
- Netflix
- Xbox Live Primetime (ie 1vs100)
- NXE
- XNA
and so much more

Sony keeps trying to catch up but just looks a poor imitation (their triggers for their DS3 are garbage compared to 360's, PSN is a joke compared to LIVE, Resistance and Killzone 2 are nothing compared to Gears/Halo 3, trophies aren't as good as achievements, etc. etc.).

A lot of people like the SNES and PS2... but those weren't really innovative consoles. PS2 especially. PS2 was so outdated it even only included 2 controller ports AND had no ethernet/hard drive!

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="rp108"]

The PS3 really is a wannabe Xbox 360.

Generalmojo

which console is that copies like every feature from the 360? oh right the ps3.

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

[QUOTE="rp108"]

The PS3 really is a wannabe Xbox 360.

Cyberfairy

which console is that copies like every feature from the 360? oh right the ps3.

Its call competition get over it. Companies see what their consumers want and most of the time they give it. Since alot of people wanted 360 features they got most of it. I really wanna dropkick people who dont understand this simple concept.

[QUOTE="rp108"]

The PS3 really is a wannabe Xbox 360.

Generalmojo

Really? Think about what you are saying. Can I quote this?

Edit: I'm not reading 20 pages worth of comments, so I'm coming in cold to this one...

If by "innovative" you mean "faulty", then yeah, the 360 would be the most innovative console of all-time.

Also note-worthy would be MS' "innovative", almost politician-like side-skirting of a full product recall in favour of an extra year on the warranty.

Someone ban this guy for giving out false information. This is one of the worst posts I've ever seen in system wars.