Another pointless thread made to create another pointless argument about pieces of plastic LOL.
How is Halo MCC and rareplay exclusive games when they are a collection of games in other platforms is beyond logic..lol
The simple understanding that they are a customized package with features, content and design not found in their original form, or features which no longer exist, not to mention they're a compilation on a single disc.
Do you have kids? A girlfriend? Friends? Co-workers? Do you have a social life of any kind involving other human beings who play video games? Yep, they're all likely to be console gamers. Do you want to play games on 4K TV, watch 4K BluRays? Do you want the options of deciding whether to play on your console or your PC? Do you want a cheap alternative fueled by the want for a different experience? Do you want cheap simplicity in your entertainment center to encompass everything you need out of your TV experience...
Look at it this way the PS4 has everything there but 4k blu-ray,which for lemmings should not be important at all you want to know why.?
Because when your ass was stock with 480p movies,the PS3 was delivering 7.1 lossless audio and 1080p quality in movies and you people didn't even care,you accuse sony of cramping blu-ray down your throat for its own agenda.
Now you receive with open arms 4k blu-ray and act as if it is god gift to gaming,on a platform accuse of being about tv tv tv for the first year of its life,and i have simply to laugh,at how now the xbox one is everything you need for your tv experience,but when the PS3 was that you lemmings didn't want it.
You know what i am close to getting a 4k TV since they are dirt cheap now,and i will probably buy an xbox one or Scorpio depending on how expensive it is,because well i like taking advantage of what i own,that was my argument back on the day for the PS3 and still hasn't change,but you lemmings yeah you are a sack of hypocrites that come and go like the waves.
The PlayStation 3 was $500/$600, and that was nearly 10 years ago when money had more value, with inflation that is now $578/$694... You know why people didn't care that much back then? Because it was nothing more than an Xbox 360 level system with a Blu-Ray player that cost more than twice as much.
The Xbox One exists outside the bounds of specific console exclusivity now, it's a platform as a whole encompassing both itself and the Windows 10 PC as a unified construct.
Lists like this are completely irrelevant now.
so is there a reason to own an xbox one if you own a gaming PC?
Perhaps not, but if you don't own a PC there's a good reason to buy it and pick it over a ps4
Another pointless thread made to create another pointless argument about pieces of plastic LOL.
Cows butt's really hurt
I can see positives for both.
The only thing I've noticed is that there isn't enough differentiation this time around to make me want to buy both. Maybe it'll come.
Well it fits the dynamic of MS's strategy these days, so that list is not too surprising. MS has decided to do away with exclusives; Sony has made no such decision, and thus continues putting out exclusives. Pretty simple.
Well it fits the dynamic of MS's strategy these days, so that list is not too surprising. MS has decided to do away with exclusives; Sony has made no such decision, and thus continues putting out exclusives. Pretty simple.
Sony couldn't competently make this leap even if they wanted to, they don't have any kind of integrated PC infrastructure, they use completely different API than DirectX so they'd have to reverse engineer all of their games during development to port them and pay Microsoft licensing fees and they have no market traction in that gaming sector.
The way Microsoft is going right now is the end all be all eventuality for the future of console gaming and gaming in general. Like Nintendo, Sony and their business strategy is becoming a relic of the past, it's a 90's vision of gaming, it's archaic. It's still successful now but it doesn't have the means to sustain itself going into a more and more integrated future, people in time will begin to reject it and with less and less exclusive games coming to market as time goes on, there's even less reason to hold onto this past representation of gaming.
Well it fits the dynamic of MS's strategy these days, so that list is not too surprising. MS has decided to do away with exclusives; Sony has made no such decision, and thus continues putting out exclusives. Pretty simple.
Sony couldn't competently make this leap even if they wanted to, they don't have any kind of integrated PC infrastructure, they use completely different API than DirectX so they'd have to reverse engineer all of their games during development to port them and pay Microsoft licensing fees and they have no market traction in that gaming sector.
The way Microsoft is going right now is the end all be all eventuality for the future of console gaming and gaming in general. Like Nintendo, Sony and their business strategy is becoming a relic of the past, it's a 90's vision of gaming, it's archaic. It's still successful now but it doesn't have the means to sustain itself going into a more and more integrated future, and with less and less exclusive games coming to market as time goes on, there's even less reason to hold onto this past representation of gaming.
That's cute. I thought you were leaving this place?
Ooof when you take video games and brands this seriously you need a break. And I only read 3 of the books of posts people just posted.
On topic: when you take away the games that are on both systems, the games really worth getting are (including upcoming games):
Xbox One: Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Halo 5, Rare Replay, Ori and the Blind Forest, Killer Instinct, Forza 5/6/7, Forza Horizon 3
PS4: Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, Ratchet and Clank, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nathan Drake Collection, Last of Us Remastered, Last of Us 2, Spiderman, Crash Bandicoot Trilogy, Final Fantasy X Remaster, Nioh, Soma, Street Fighter 5
Maybe I missed some? That's what I could think of. So it's 8 to 14. It's a lead that will keep growing too at this rate. But there are still 20ish games really worth owning when you add the multiplats even on Xbox One, not counting BC.
@i_p_daily:
Yeah, MvC2 is the only MvC I put some major time into. It's more on the "casual" end, but still lots of fun.
Sorry guys, I gotta say this.
Conan you know that isn't true. It *appears* more appealing to "casuals," but the depth of high level gameplay eclipses almost every other game (not just fighting game).
PS4 just offers more in pretty much every department, and anyone who denies it is only really fooling themselves. The only genres which PS4 doesn't have offerings like its competition are fps games (only one exclusive fps) and racers (only one 'exclusive' racer to date). Other than that, it offers more for fighting games, action games, action-adventure games, rpgs, etc. the list can go on and on.
@i_p_daily:
Yeah, MvC2 is the only MvC I put some major time into. It's more on the "casual" end, but still lots of fun.
Sorry guys, I gotta say this.
Conan you know that isn't true. It *appears* more appealing to "casuals," but the depth of high level gameplay eclipses almost every other game (not just fighting game).
Mahvel aka MVC2 is probably the most intense, execute heavy fighting game ever thrust into the mainstream. To call it "casual" makes me think that one has never seen competitive matches.
I could never get into MVC2 because it demands so much dedication - and I can do Genei Jin combos in 3s. It is still very fun to watch and know what is going on.
Well it fits the dynamic of MS's strategy these days, so that list is not too surprising. MS has decided to do away with exclusives; Sony has made no such decision, and thus continues putting out exclusives. Pretty simple.
Sony couldn't competently make this leap even if they wanted to, they don't have any kind of integrated PC infrastructure, they use completely different API than DirectX so they'd have to reverse engineer all of their games during development to port them and pay Microsoft licensing fees and they have no market traction in that gaming sector.
The way Microsoft is going right now is the end all be all eventuality for the future of console gaming and gaming in general. Like Nintendo, Sony and their business strategy is becoming a relic of the past, it's a 90's vision of gaming, it's archaic. It's still successful now but it doesn't have the means to sustain itself going into a more and more integrated future, people in time will begin to reject it and with less and less exclusive games coming to market as time goes on, there's even less reason to hold onto this past representation of gaming.
They don't need direct x. In fact there api is a derivative of opengl really and it shouldn't be hard to configure to run on any x86 architecture. They could also easily port there games to gl or heck vulkan now. Sony has been ready to adapt the moment they stopped chasing indifferent architectures on there hardware. Sure its not as ready as UWP but when shit hits the fan they will put there stuff on pc as well. They will move psn there and distribute there own stuff. All of them are capable of adapting to these other markets really.
Sorry guys, I gotta say this.
Conan you know that isn't true. It *appears* more appealing to "casuals," but the depth of high level gameplay eclipses almost every other game (not just fighting game).
Mahvel aka MVC2 is probably the most intense, execute heavy fighting game ever thrust into the mainstream. To call it "casual" makes me think that one has never seen competitive matches.
I could never get into MVC2 because it demands so much dedication - and I can do Genei Jin combos in 3s. It is still very fun to watch and know what is going on.
Dudes, I get it lol. Hence why I put casual in quotations. Sorry dudes, there aren't many FG players that post on SW, so sometimes I'm a bit loose with what I say regarding the genre. I know I'd get my head chopped off for that statement on an actual FG board lol.
Now "depth of high level gameplay eclipses almost every other game (not just fighting game)." The argument could be made sure, but I wouldn't just say that outright, no. That's a very bold statement to make, especially so if you're including any genre.
But the rest, sure I can a agree with. I'm just not talking high level play, because truthfully I'm not a high level player and I'm sure i_p_daily isn't either. MvC2 may have a ridiculous skill ceiling, but it's still a game that was very inviting for most. At the base level it has a very casual appeal. I could get my friends who used to shy away from the SF games to play MvC2.
For example mazui, you bring up the execution barrier. And sure, from what I understand, mastering characters like Sim, Sentinal, Magneto, Anakaris, etc. are fucking nightmare territory. Nobody wants to do 1 frame command normals for example lmao. But for the average low level player? Throwing out combos and specials feels like an incredibly simple task compared to most other FGs at a low level. Even a straight up masher can get in there and make some cool looking shit happen lol.
Like you're saying X_Capcom_X, it's more of an appearance thing than anything else. It's probably the ultimate example of easy to learn, impossible to master, that gaming has to offer. For a low level player it seems like an easier game than even something like UMK3, though at competitive level play it's light years beyond.
I meant no offence brehs lol.
@ConanTheStoner: What did you think of KI?
It's a cool game, I like it. Not bad at all. But I really only skimmed the surface, probably put in about 15-20 hours before moving on.
Of course fighting games require a lot of investment from the player and there are just so many good ones out there. So I really have to pick my poison and there's a good few FGs I'd rather be playing than KI right now.
Still, I enjoyed it for what it was and I'm definitely interested to see what they come out with next.
You may think that I am as bad as these people, but you'd be wrong and there's a big difference. I approach situations from a standoffish position, a point of being unsure, there may be speculation but it never leaves that position. I am a person who owns and plays everything I discuss, I have the means to assess what is being used and/or talked about because again, I own it, mostly none of these people do. They are one system bandwagoners lacking integrity riding a wave of popularity, if the shoe moves to the other foot they will jump ship just to be on top no matter where that is.
>Suggests he remains disconnected and unbiased
>Also birthed the "Smear Campaign" meme
You may think that I am as bad as these people, but you'd be wrong and there's a big difference. I approach situations from a standoffish position, a point of being unsure, there may be speculation but it never leaves that position. I am a person who owns and plays everything I discuss, I have the means to assess what is being used and/or talked about because again, I own it, mostly none of these people do. They are one system bandwagoners lacking integrity riding a wave of popularity, if the shoe moves to the other foot they will jump ship just to be on top no matter where that is.
>Suggests he remains disconnected and unbiased
>Also birthed the "Smear Campaign" meme
You're saying that as if it's a quip implying that both cannot exist at the same time, care to elaborate?
You may think that I am as bad as these people, but you'd be wrong and there's a big difference. I approach situations from a standoffish position, a point of being unsure, there may be speculation but it never leaves that position. I am a person who owns and plays everything I discuss, I have the means to assess what is being used and/or talked about because again, I own it, mostly none of these people do. They are one system bandwagoners lacking integrity riding a wave of popularity, if the shoe moves to the other foot they will jump ship just to be on top no matter where that is.
>Suggests he remains disconnected and unbiased
>Also birthed the "Smear Campaign" meme
You're saying that as if it's a quip implying that both cannot exist at the same time, care to elaborate?
I think I said all I needed to. ;)
You may think that I am as bad as these people, but you'd be wrong and there's a big difference. I approach situations from a standoffish position, a point of being unsure, there may be speculation but it never leaves that position. I am a person who owns and plays everything I discuss, I have the means to assess what is being used and/or talked about because again, I own it, mostly none of these people do. They are one system bandwagoners lacking integrity riding a wave of popularity, if the shoe moves to the other foot they will jump ship just to be on top no matter where that is.
>Suggests he remains disconnected and unbiased
>Also birthed the "Smear Campaign" meme
You're saying that as if it's a quip implying that both cannot exist at the same time, care to elaborate?
I think I said all I needed to. ;)
You really didn't, I can be disconnected and unbiased and at the same time recognize and call people out who are nonobjectively one siding an argument.
@dynamitecop said:@darkspineslayer said: @dynamitecop said: @darkspineslayer said: @dynamitecop said: You may think that I am as bad as these people, but you'd be wrong and there's a big difference. I approach situations from a standoffish position, a point of being unsure, there may be speculation but it never leaves that position. I am a person who owns and plays everything I discuss, I have the means to assess what is being used and/or talked about because again, I own it, mostly none of these people do. They are one system bandwagoners lacking integrity riding a wave of popularity, if the shoe moves to the other foot they will jump ship just to be on top no matter where that is.
>Suggests he remains disconnected and unbiased
>Also birthed the "Smear Campaign" meme
You're saying that as if it's a quip implying that both cannot exist at the same time, care to elaborate?
I think I said all I needed to. ;)
You really didn't, I can be disconnected and unbiased and at the same time recognize and call people out who are nonobjectively one siding an argument.
I think you're pretty much worse than the people you whine about. It's probably you projecting your insecurities on the behavior of others because you clearly have an ego problem combined with some kind of delusion of grandeur.
The simple understanding that they are a customized package with features, content and design not found in their original form, or features which no longer exist, not to mention they're a compilation on a single disc.
The PlayStation 3 was $500/$600, and that was nearly 10 years ago when money had more value, with inflation that is now $578/$694... You know why people didn't care that much back then? Because it was nothing more than an Xbox 360 level system with a Blu-Ray player that cost more than twice as much.
The simple understanding that all those games are on different platforms is enough to know they are multiplatforms.
Yes and Blu-ray was a freaking $1,000 stand alone and the 360 $400 without online,so the PS3 for $500 or $600 gave you $1,400 worth of hardware,for that amount of money the xbox one on 2013 wasn't even close to that value even with kinect and the xbox one s either blu-ray 4k is no even half as expensive as 1080p was on 2006,oh and that is ignoring your comment about money having more value so those $1,400 worth of hardware were more like $1,700 using you know your inflation argument.
Blu-ray for $600 was a bargain on 2006 compare to 4k now.
More than twice as much what the fu** the 360 was 400 and 300,the 20GB PS3 was $50 more than a 360 premium with live hypocrite lemming.
It's not an easy time to be a lemming is it?
I wonder when the brand loyalty and fan boyism will stop and they'll just give up, there is nothing else going for xbox one.
IS it time to put people on suicide watch?
Wow dynamitecop has displayed here the most pathetic display of tears and butthurt I've ever seen on the internet. It beats that guy from the meme crying over people insulting Britney.
Like others already commented, not only is dynamitecop butthurt but he's possibly the most hypocritical and pathetic user in this forum. He cries over others being biased while he himself is biased like anyone with 2 eyes already noticed. He cries about people being arrogant while being extremely arrogant and keeping his head up his ass.
Really dude get some therapy. It seems to me that you have the emotional maturity of a 5 year old probably due to spending your life in your parents' basement. Go out to the world and learn how to control emotions like a real person so that you don't repeat these pathetic tantrums in the future.
By the way, this thread proves why the xbone is irrelevant for the majority of gamers.
LOL Funniest shit I read all day.
Its the same old story. There are games on both that I wish to play. There are people here that don't. Whoopty fukin doo.
The Xbox One exists outside the bounds of specific console exclusivity now, it's a platform as a whole encompassing both itself and the Windows 10 PC as a unified construct.
Lists like this are completely irrelevant now.
so is there a reason to own an xbox one if you own a gaming PC?
Perhaps not, but if you don't own a PC there's a good reason to buy it and pick it over a ps4
As usual, SW posters cant see that the consumer market doesn't reflect them 1:1
But that brings us to the real question: how many of those titles are must-buy games??
Shouldn't that be assessed by the individual spending the money? Or are we still pretending what we like is what others should like?
That really is a pathetic list when compared to PS1 or 2.
I gamed on console up until the PS2 had the best of what it had to offer out.
In 2003 I bought a gaming PC and found the experience to be superior in every way and have always had a never ending backlog of excellence to choose from, so there's been no need to go anywhere else.
The Xbox One exists outside the bounds of specific console exclusivity now, it's a platform as a whole encompassing both itself and the Windows 10 PC as a unified construct.
Lists like this are completely irrelevant now.
so is there a reason to own an xbox one if you own a gaming PC?
That entirely depends on your personal situation, I know this is a shit bait thread but I'll bite because frankly I'm fed up.
Do you have kids? A girlfriend? Friends? Co-workers? Do you have a social life of any kind involving other human beings who play video games? Yep, they're all likely to be console gamers. Do you want to play games on 4K TV, watch 4K BluRays? Do you want the options of deciding whether to play on your console or your PC? Do you want a cheap alternative fueled by the want for a different experience? Do you want cheap simplicity in your entertainment center to encompass everything you need out of your TV experience...
This could go on, there's plenty of reasons... There's only a lack of reasons if you're a fanboy fuckhead idiot. I've been gaming on PC for over 25 years, but I still like to sit my ass down on my couch in the quiet and play games on a console, regardless of what anyone says it's a completely different experience from the ground up, a different feeling, you're aware of this and it invokes a different cognitive response in you.
I'm about fucking done with this shit hole, you morons try the same rinse and repeat garbage threads and posts every single day to validate your personified bullshit.
I wish for once some of you could just be real human beings, just for one day, real responses and reactions instead of internet fueled agenda that doesn't actually line up with anything you believe outside of this bubble of idiocy.
Just say it, "I'm a fanboy and a cuck to the PlayStation 4", that's the eventuality this is leading up to anyway. You don't want to discuss anything, you don't want a logical conversation, you want internet reinforcement for the fight you're trying to start, it's pathetic.
Thank you. When people make these threads on here this is exactly the speech they need. Thank you.
Just stop already, MS, please I beg you. I'm already under a mountain of games on mah backlog with no chance of ever catching up. Enough of this tidal wave of AAA must have X1 games, you're killin me man. :P
We all know PS4 has a bigger lists. It is a simple fact. Btw why is this nya dude still posting. Didn't he say he is done with this shit hole and cancerous site? Oh yeah that's right. He can't help but to come and protect his beloved MS lol
I feel embarrassed just looking at that list and I don't even own the xbone. When do us, gamers, allow for such a pathetic thing to make it this far? It's time MS stops pretending they know how to gaming.
Well you keep mentioning it over and over again, every day of the week. Maybe that's the problem?
I feel embarrassed just looking at that list and I don't even own the xbone. When do us, gamers, allow for such a pathetic thing to make it this far? It's time MS stops pretending they know how to gaming.
Well you keep mentioning it over and over again, every day of the week. Maybe that's the problem?
Well, that is why he had the honour of winning the hallowed SW Award of 'Biggest Playstation bellen.. i mean Fanboy'.
The Xbox One exists outside the bounds of specific console exclusivity now, it's a platform as a whole encompassing both itself and the Windows 10 PC as a unified construct.
Lists like this are completely irrelevant now.
so is there a reason to own an xbox one if you own a gaming PC?
Perhaps not, but if you don't own a PC there's a good reason to buy it and pick it over a ps4
As usual, SW posters cant see that the consumer market doesn't reflect them 1:1
But that brings us to the real question: how many of those titles are must-buy games??
Shouldn't that be assessed by the individual spending the money? Or are we still pretending what we like is what others should like?
Yes, people should be allowed to assess what they are spending money on, but for the majority of gamers out there, how many of them are going to want titles like Boom Ball for Kinect, Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Beatsplosion, and Horse Racing 2016? I'm sorry, but it's a pretty embarrassing list.
Will be nice if xbox scorpio bridges the gap with more pc titles and then pick up a ps4 for the exclusives. Xbox and Playstation combo should give a nice range of games.
People seem to genuinely think that you only play exclusives on your main console for some reason. Multi Plats exist.
Each console has multiple reasons to own it.
Ooof when you take video games and brands this seriously you need a break. And I only read 3 of the books of posts people just posted.
On topic: when you take away the games that are on both systems, the games really worth getting are (including upcoming games):
Xbox One: Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Halo 5, Rare Replay, Ori and the Blind Forest, Killer Instinct, Forza 5/6/7, Forza Horizon 3
PS4: Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, Ratchet and Clank, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nathan Drake Collection, Last of Us Remastered, Last of Us 2, Spiderman, Crash Bandicoot Trilogy, Final Fantasy X Remaster, Nioh, Soma, Street Fighter 5
Maybe I missed some? That's what I could think of. So it's 8 to 14. It's a lead that will keep growing too at this rate. But there are still 20ish games really worth owning when you add the multiplats even on Xbox One, not counting BC.
Yeah you missed a bunch and you included a bunch of PS4 games that arent even out yet.
Exclusives: Sony has way more exclusives compared to Xbox One. The Xbox platform will have little to know exclusives going forward as the titles will also be released on the PC platform. People will say, "Microsoft owns Windows" but it still doesn't negate the fact that there's TWO platform options and not just one.
Console Exclusives: Playstation 4 has more and there's no denying this.
Better Exclusives: Based on my personal opinion, I prefer Playstation 4 games compared to Xbox One's. What's better is pure a subjective matter altogether. What should be considered is that Playstation 4 games are generally rated higher, which means they have more critically critically acclaimed titles.
The problem I see with Microsoft going forward is that they need to start putting out more successful tittles that are not named Halo, Gears, and Forza. They have put out other good games, but that doesn't mean they were financially successful titles. Sunset Overdrive is considered a good game for the Xbox One platform, but due to sales, Insomniac has been reluctant to make a squeal. Microsoft needs a new IP where they can say, "This is a very successful title. We really need to make another."
I seriously doubt Sea of Thieves will be successful based on how previous Xbox One titles were received by Xbox games. It may receive good scores, but I expect it to flop financially. People are going to say, "sales don't matter" but it comes to business, they do. They don't just make games just to make fans happy - they want to make money, too.
The Xbox One exists outside the bounds of specific console exclusivity now, it's a platform as a whole encompassing both itself and the Windows 10 PC as a unified construct.
Lists like this are completely irrelevant now.
so is there a reason to own an xbox one if you own a gaming PC?
That entirely depends on your personal situation, I know this is a shit bait thread but I'll bite because frankly I'm fed up.
Do you have kids? A girlfriend? Friends? Co-workers? Do you have a social life of any kind involving other human beings who play video games? Yep, they're all likely to be console gamers. Do you want to play games on 4K TV, watch 4K BluRays? Do you want the options of deciding whether to play on your console or your PC? Do you want a cheap alternative fueled by the want for a different experience? Do you want cheap simplicity in your entertainment center to encompass everything you need out of your TV experience...
This could go on, there's plenty of reasons... There's only a lack of reasons if you're a fanboy fuckhead idiot. I've been gaming on PC for over 25 years, but I still like to sit my ass down on my couch in the quiet and play games on a console, regardless of what anyone says it's a completely different experience from the ground up, a different feeling, you're aware of this and it invokes a different cognitive response in you.
I'm about fucking done with this shit hole, you morons try the same rinse and repeat garbage threads and posts every single day to validate your personified bullshit.
I wish for once some of you could just be real human beings, just for one day, real responses and reactions instead of internet fueled agenda that doesn't actually line up with anything you believe outside of this bubble of idiocy.
Just say it, "I'm a fanboy and a cuck to the PlayStation 4", that's the eventuality this is leading up to anyway. You don't want to discuss anything, you don't want a logical conversation, you want internet reinforcement for the fight you're trying to start, it's pathetic.
holy fucking rekt.
dude, you destroyed him.
You preached what many of us are thinking.
slurp
Oh u are good my dude. Absolutely no offense has been taken. Mazui took it a lil further than I did with the crazy examples. I know that you know how deep these games are.
You are absolutely correct about the "casual" thing. My buddies who would whine about SF and KOF and stuff will easily play some mahvel and hit the qcf+p as many times as possible after a magic series. Shit even those easy combos make me feel good doing them lol.
Also yes I agree about people who master characters like sent, sim, anakaris etc. Even after the ridiculous execution barrier you and @mazuiface mentioned, those "oh shit that was smart" moments after witnessing disgusting throw setups with anakaris or off-the-ground combos with sent make me both interested in learning and repulsed by how much training would be required. There's a reason some pro players sweat during tourneys. They are working those stick and buttons like a musician playing a duet by themselves.
That point you make at the end there is good too. I think more games should actually be like that. League of legends is kind of like this too. It's pretty easy to get into, but its so ridiculous to learn all of the tricks the pros use and employ them in the heat of battle -- even though execution is relatively simple in that game. It's why UMVC3 and LoL are so popular compared to other games in their genre (2d fighters and MOBAs).
Dudes, I get it lol. Hence why I put casual in quotations. Sorry dudes, there aren't many FG players that post on SW, so sometimes I'm a bit loose with what I say regarding the genre. I know I'd get my head chopped off for that statement on an actual FG board lol.
Now "depth of high level gameplay eclipses almost every other game (not just fighting game)." The argument could be made sure, but I wouldn't just say that outright, no. That's a very bold statement to make, especially so if you're including any genre.
But the rest, sure I can a agree with. I'm just not talking high level play, because truthfully I'm not a high level player and I'm sure i_p_daily isn't either. MvC2 may have a ridiculous skill ceiling, but it's still a game that was very inviting for most. At the base level it has a very casual appeal. I could get my friends who used to shy away from the SF games to play MvC2.
For example mazui, you bring up the execution barrier. And sure, from what I understand, mastering characters like Sim, Sentinal, Magneto, Anakaris, etc. are fucking nightmare territory. Nobody wants to do 1 frame command normals for example lmao. But for the average low level player? Throwing out combos and specials feels like an incredibly simple task compared to most other FGs at a low level. Even a straight up masher can get in there and make some cool looking shit happen lol.
Like you're saying X_Capcom_X, it's more of an appearance thing than anything else. It's probably the ultimate example of easy to learn, impossible to master, that gaming has to offer. For a low level player it seems like an easier game than even something like UMK3, though at competitive level play it's light years beyond.
I meant no offence brehs lol.
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