There is a dark, pessimistic ambience surrounding modern gaming.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="ASSISTSNOSKILL"]If halo 2 was you're first online shooter for xbox live you are a casual plain and simple.mems_1224

Poor kid, nobody bites his trolls attempts :(

Yep, he began with the Wii...nodoby bite, then he went for Kinect, again nobody...and finally with Halo and Xbox he kind of got a response for you...but it was more like a charity answer.

Almost feel bad for him...almost.

[QUOTE="ASSISTSNOSKILL"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]combat evolved wasn't an XBL game noob.mems_1224

mems, stop feeding the troll, brah.

[QUOTE="ASSISTSNOSKILL"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]never said halo 2 was my first xbl game. you just assumed that because you're an idiot and a bad, boring trollmems_1224

mems, stop feeding the troll, brah.

Silverbond

[QUOTE="ASSISTSNOSKILL"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]nah, wont admit anything that isn't true. you need some new material kid. all your accounts are pretty boring.mems_1224

I was right with you until you mentioned "Sony's first party studios" "Valve" and "creativity and innovation" in the same sentence without a "not" in there somewhere. DarkLink77

Then supress it if you want, thats just my personal insight, i have very little hopes from Japanese Devs now, even the once glorious Konami has failed to impress me recently whereas i still hold Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla and Media Molecule in high regard, same as valve and Gabe Newell who refuses to ****ing make Half Life 3. I understand if you dont respect those devs as much as i do, different strokes for different folks.

TC maybe youve just been spending too much time in SW. Sometimes the overall negative attitude of this place can get to people. :P Maybe you should just log off for a week and just enjoy your games.

Capitan_Kid

Well buddy, then i guess the whole problem with negativity goes deeper because i rarely read SW anymore, and hardly post for that matter.

I was shocked by the 100+ responses on this thread, i posted it, left and then came back an hour later and it had exploded, what was so outrageous about it?, specially considering all the recent troll threads and sales gibberish, it made me wonder what got everyone's attention so fast, i'm guessing there's truth in my words .

Shooters released for xbox live before halo 2 released november 2004.

if you bought none of those xbox live shooters before halo 2 you are a casual azzhole with a irrelevant opinion.

vietcong purple haze

ASSISTSNOSKILL

Actually if you did buy this game, you're still an azzhole with an irrelevant opinion

whats your real username? mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]whats your real username? AgentA-Mi6

[QUOTE="ASSISTSNOSKILL"]

Shooters released for xbox live before halo 2 released november 2004.

if you bought none of those xbox live shooters before halo 2 you are a casual azzhole with a irrelevant opinion.

vietcong purple haze

bobcheeseball

Actually if you did buy this game, you're still an azzhole with an irrelevant opinion

Your relationship with gaming is going to change as you grow up, sure. Same thing happened to you with TV. Choose activities you enjoy for now, stay away from the subject for awhile, and don't be surprised if you find yourself revisiting games in the future. Certainly no point in spending anytime around anything you're not enjoying now...

...or, if you're feeling froggy, you can move on to a different, unfamiliar genre of games. Never know!

yea,i still get excited for stuff....just not like i was a kid... it's only natural.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="-CC-"]

You might just be to old for gaming. Retire.

-CC-

Well if you lived in the 8 bit era then you got to be in your 30s if not 40s. I know very few people that age with anything more than a passing interest in gaming. Real life gets in the way I guess. I think it will happen to all of us one day.

TC maybe youve just been spending too much time in SW. Sometimes the overall negative attitude of this place can get to people. :P Maybe you should just log off for a week and just enjoy your games.

Capitan_Kid

Well. I guess it is called growing up. When you grow up, you play less and less video games. You soon are never going to be playing video games. I doubt everyone is pessimistic. It is that games like gears of war, call of duty, and halo wear thin when you are in your 20s. Similar to mario and nintendo when you are in your teens.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"Remember that e3, 2004, when Nintendo showed off a video of Twilight Princess and the crowd went freaking bananas? Can anyone tell me the last time a crowd went nuts like that just by showing off a game? I don't remember.DarkLink77

Halo 3 is garbage, I think you meant The Last of Us at E3 2012.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Sonys first party developers and a few third parties like valve are the last standing bulwark of honest thrive for creativity and innovation.DarkLink77

This.

Sony is hardly innovative, and Valve is nowhere near as innovative as they get credit for.

Did you stop having fun playing games or something?

Hell I only started gaming in the 5th generation and I feel the same...

Its not me folks, its in the air, nothing is impressive anymore, the HYPE for games died or lives on only through the children, always eager and hoping for the best, us, the old generation that lived the golden era of videogames since the 8bits and all the way up are no longer easily impressed by exploding helicopters, realistic battlefields or fantasy settings with worlds needing saviors, its all as cut and dried as it gets.

I havent played many games recently, but those I have bored me quickly and the ones I truly wish to play arent out yet, mainly The Last of Us and some of the unannounced like Half Life 3.

As I read through endless threads of comments and discussions online and in real life face to face conversations I stumble upon what is looming as an inevitable reality, were growing older and were not easily impressed by simple mundane things like most mainstream video games anymore, especially when they completely seem to lack the slightest effort in innovation, and Im looking at EA, Microsoft , Nintendo and Activision when I say that. Sonys first party developers and a few third parties like valve are the last standing bulwark of honest thrive for creativity and innovation.

The magic I used to feel when I opened a new game from my favorite developer is no longer there and I feel that most of the video game series that were once special to me are degenerating or being defiled for commercial exploitation of the lowest possible level.

I mean, look at new games, look at the vita, WiiU, the industry. Its not that we're nearing the end of the console cycle, its something else.

AgentA-Mi6

I'm still finding plenty of games I like. Then again, my tastes in games aren't exactly the norm around here.

I'm curious though. What kind of innovations are you looking for? I mean I also look for innovations. For example, FSX has the most innovative views and weather of any flight sim around. I liked its innovations so much I still play the game long after its graphics has become dated.

I have to ask because I see the term "innovation" mentioned a lot. But, when I ask some about what innovations they're looking for, half the time, it's mostly graphics upgrades.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]

TC maybe youve just been spending too much time in SW. Sometimes the overall negative attitude of this place can get to people. :P Maybe you should just log off for a week and just enjoy your games.

TheGuardian03

it's not that, new games are really lacking quality, they focus on looking pretty or being a clone of other game. Everyone considers mass effect trilogy one of the best this gen, even the decade, and when i see the fatal horrible flaws it has, i ask, how? i mean it has strong points, but there are many that keep it from getting close to what i would call a masterpiece

I know what you mean. I sometimes feel the same but I still continue playing video games.

I think it's mainly because games are getting too mainstream to be enjoyable anymore. Casual gamers got in the way to ruin our hobby.

Its not me folks, its in the air, nothing is impressive anymore, the HYPE for games died or lives on only through the children, always eager and hoping for the best, us, the old generation that lived the golden era of videogames since the 8bits and all the way up are no longer easily impressed by exploding helicopters, realistic battlefields or fantasy settings with worlds needing saviors, its all as cut and dried as it gets.

I havent played many games recently, but those I have bored me quickly and the ones I truly wish to play arent out yet, mainly The Last of Us and some of the unannounced like Half Life 3.

As I read through endless threads of comments and discussions online and in real life face to face conversations I stumble upon what is looming as an inevitable reality, were growing older and were not easily impressed by simple mundane things like most mainstream video games anymore, especially when they completely seem to lack the slightest effort in innovation, and Im looking at EA, Microsoft , Nintendo and Activision when I say that. Sonys first party developers and a few third parties like valve are the last standing bulwark of honest thrive for creativity and innovation.

The magic I used to feel when I opened a new game from my favorite developer is no longer there and I feel that most of the video game series that were once special to me are degenerating or being defiled for commercial exploitation of the lowest possible level.

I mean, look at new games, look at the vita, WiiU, the industry. Its not that we're nearing the end of the console cycle, its something else.

AgentA-Mi6

For starters drop the nostalgia glasses and stop expecting every game that comes out to have a 9+ score. It's ok to broaden your taste and play style, if you get stuck only supporting one system gaming will get old and not mention you miss out on a lot of games on other systems.

Also if you think the 8 bit era had innovation...just stop gaming...stop posting on video game forums just find another hobby cause you're an idiot. Every game back then had the same concept of going through the most linear path of point A to point B, pressing the up/down/move forward and press the attack button that's the game.

Well, in some ways I agree with TC, but only as far as the big AAA games go. I tend to blame it (yeah I really do) on the altering way the industry is run, by shareholders and people in charge of huge gaming corps, who has no interrest in the games at all, but rather the income. And the way "hype" was used this gen. Hype became a sales tactics, hype were not as much a product of the game, but carefully calculated showings of tidbits of games, aswell as a ton of adverts. It even came to a point where the Hype had more worth then the games.

But most smaller Publishers, from mid sized and down DID provide the games. SE shined this gen as a Publisher, 2k overall delivered well, THQ (sadly goign down) made some really good titles. ANd then there were the more obscure.

Of the big publishers and devs Id nominate Nintendo as being the best AAA huge corp gaming industry, you could feel how there still is a love for games there, how the level design is not getting "less and less" for the sake of "cinematic story". How they tryied diffrent things, both sucesses and failures, but atleast tryied.

Sony were not all that bad either, despite still being pleagued with what I consider the reason why this gen quickly felt stale and counterproductive. (They atleast understood the name of the game, pun intended).

Otherwise? weve had a ton of Old IPs remade to something not even remotely resembling what the brands were, a ton of FPs games that all look more or less alike, with not freedom of anything really (not even alot of freedom of movement). Simplified RPGs, that boiled down to "press awesome butten" pretty much, and alot of games afraid to make or have fun, due to the "serious nature" of modern games. Baah.

But dewspite my overall dislike of ALOT of what weve saw this gen, luckily that negative is kept to the biggest Publishers and thier devs (Feel kind abad for those devs you know -.-)

Play games better suited towards your tastes. There are a lot of meh games out now and casualised games but there are also still some wonderful gems like Dark Souls. Good games are there, if you look for them