There is no such thing as HARDCORE gamers.

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

To me a Hardcore gamer is a gamer who really knows what he likes, and plays a decent amount of time.

So, yeah, there's Hardcore Gamers to me.

OH NOES!

But.. but.. but.. I SHOOT PEOPLE IN GAMES!!!!!111

well this is gonna pawn you: You know Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare, this has two game types called HARDCORE teamdeathmatch an HARCORE searchanddestroy. Go Figure noob.

No there is such a thing as hardcore gamers, basically a hardcore gamers life revolves around videogames, they are really competitive at online play, always get the info about the games industry and join gaming evens and what-not.

I'm in the fine line between casual and hardcore.

well this is gonna pawn you: You know Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare, this has two game types called HARDCORE teamdeathmatch an HARCORE searchanddestroy. Go Figure noob.

Comander243

LOL. Oh yes, you sure pawned him.

Wouldn't a person addicted to videogames count as a hardcore gamer? One who spends most of his time around a console or PC and doesn't seem to do anything else. I know a few of that type.kingdre

It's called dedication. ;)

They're dedicated gamers.

I appreciate that people are tired of rigid definitions of what it means to be hardcore, as it's so often exploited by fanboys, but let's not jump too far in the other direction. There are objective degrees of dedication to gaming. There are casuals and hardcores.

You can't seriously argue that (let's use one platform here as an example) someone who plays Bedazzled and Peggle exclusively should be honestly compared to someone who plays say, Sins of a Solar Empire or Starcraft.

Yes they both play games but there's obviously a huge difference between those two individuals in tastes, knowledge and investment in gaming.

Pretending there isn't to just satisfy everybody is as poor as the argument you're opposing.

[QUOTE="kingdre"]Wouldn't a person addicted to videogames count as a hardcore gamer? One who spends most of his time around a console or PC and doesn't seem to do anything else. I know a few of that type.x_SuperMario_x

It's called dedication. ;)

They're dedicated gamers.

Right...

well this is gonna pawn you: You know Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare, this has two game types called HARDCORE teamdeathmatch an HARCORE searchanddestroy. Go Figure noob.

Comander243

Because a game has a mode called Hardcore means the game is Hardcore? Hmmmm So if Hey-You-Pikachu had a hardcore mode that makes it Hardcore? Lawlz your logic if failure.

Heres the difference.

Gamer: plays games just for fun, this is where 80% of people (like me) fit.

Hardcore gamer: Plays the same game for hours on end just to get better, is in a clan of other hardcore gamers whi will train toghether twice a week. Plays in competitions and tournemants for money. The sort of people who still play counterstrike 8 hours a day.

Right...

kingdre

Right...

[QUOTE="Comander243"]

well this is gonna pawn you: You know Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare, this has two game types called HARDCORE teamdeathmatch an HARCORE searchanddestroy. Go Figure noob.

Dibdibdobdobo

Because a game has a mode called Hardcore means the game is Hardcore? Hmmmm So if Hey-You-Pikachu had a hardcore mode that makes it Hardcore? Lawlz your logic if failure.

TEH POKEMANZZ IS HARDCOREEE!!1111

Sorry, but it seems you are the delusional one. You make a thread insulting people...calling us "delusional children" with "little to zero maturity". Sorry, I must be too busy living in my "sad little existence" to see the irony here. :lol:Zoso-8

because i dont try and catergorize myself into a criteria which does not exist meaning im not delusional. Most the people on here are 12 or act like they are. Kids on here think because a game has blood and guts it is for some reason a hardcore when its actually violent.

Yess my points where quite valid.

People say that a hardcore gamer is someone who's life revoles around games, but they're not hardcore, they're just people that need a life.:PPhoenix534

This right here folks. He has a point.

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Sorry, but it seems you are the delusional one. You make a thread insulting people...calling us "delusional children" with "little to zero maturity". Sorry, I must be too busy living in my "sad little existence" to see the irony here. :lol:Dibdibdobdobo

because i dont try and catergorize myself into a criteria which does not exist meaning im not delusional. Most the people on here are 12 or act like they are. Kids on here think because a game has blood and guts it is for some reason a hardcore when its actually violent.

Yess my points where quite valid.

Your stereotyping a very complex argument into a very simple and very strawmanned position.

Yes, some people do argue blood and violence make a game 'hardcore', but that's only one argument. Others argue that a game is made hardcore by its complexity, design, graphics, etc. People aren't even in agreement that it's the game that makes something hardcore or casual, plenty of people argue its the habits of the gamer.

So yes, there probably is such a thing as a hardcore gamer, and picking a pretty ridiculous argument which nobody in this thread has made to discredit the wider ideal is wholly inadequate.

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

Dibdibdobdobo

You have no clue.........

Yeah your right there is no difference between a guy who works in a game developers all day goes home plays CSS for 4 hours WOW for another 6, goes to bed then up again in the morning back to work to work on games...

and a guy that played Wii sports once at a friends house.......

Yep no difference there......

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]People say that a hardcore gamer is someone who's life revoles around games, but they're not hardcore, they're just people that need a life.:Px_SuperMario_x

This right here folks. He has a point.

Thank You

I'm 12, and I know that there's no real hardcore games OR gamers. But, I am mature for my age.Phoenix534

Well, whether you belittle them or not. There is a hardcore community out there, most everyone that visits SW is probably Hardcore Gamer. You may be Mature for your age according to you, But you still lack EXPERIENCE in the real world. That will come with time.

What is a Hardcore Gamer? Someone who plays games more often than the typical joe, and someone that usually is informed in the gaming world. That's my take on it.

Hardcore gamers are not Bullet catching, sword slashing freaks. They can be those things, but they can also be the guy who has 20 Wii games and beat them all. Maybe mastered every nuance.

The Hardcore Gamer's Free Time is mostly devoted to playing Video games (Perhaps mastering a game or two) and Reading about them.

That's my take anyways.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]People say that a hardcore gamer is someone who's life revoles around games, but they're not hardcore, they're just people that need a life.:Px_SuperMario_x

This right here folks. He has a point.

I play games like FFXI which i've spent 120 Days on. I play occasionally for 24/48 hours! I'm not a hardcore gamer i'm a gamer! Should i be catergorized into my own catergory which is better than hardcore?

What in Porn is more extreme than Hardcore?

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

tenaka2

You have no clue.........

Yeah your right there is no difference between a guy who works in a game developers all day goes home plays CSS for 4 hours WOW for another 6, goes to bed then up again in the morning back to work to work on games...

and a guy that played Wii sports once at a friends house.......

Yep no difference there......

Yes 1 is a gamer and the other isnt. Because someone once played a game once dont mean they are a gamer at all.

Thanks for the comedy post. We needed something to lighten to the situation and your comedy done just that.

[QUOTE="x_SuperMario_x"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]People say that a hardcore gamer is someone who's life revoles around games, but they're not hardcore, they're just people that need a life.:PDibdibdobdobo

This right here folks. He has a point.

I play games like FFXI which i've spent 120 Days on. I play occasionally for 24/48 hours! I'm not a hardcore gamer i'm a gamer! Should i be catergorized into my own catergory which is better than hardcore?

What in Porn is more extreme than Hardcore?

You are a Hardcore Gamer.

There are some guys that go to people's house EVERY weekend and play Wii Sports. Every Weekend. He is just a gamer. You are a Hardcore Gamer.

You may hate the label, but you are different than him.

Ive been playing Videogames nigh on 20 years, i dont know if id call myself hardcore, probably, back when Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 were big on the online scene i used to play online probably 8 hours a day, if that wasnt hardcore i dont know what is.

Hardcore to me personally, is somebody who has been gaming for a long time, somebody who has a passion for it, probably an owner of multipul systems a generation.

Anybody on these forums who has over a thousand posts is probably very much somebody who lives and breathes games, i dont think there is an accurate messure though.

I suppose the question you need to ask yourself is, do you feel like a hardcore gamer, if the answer is yes, you probably are one.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

Dibdibdobdobo

You have no clue.........

Yeah your right there is no difference between a guy who works in a game developers all day goes home plays CSS for 4 hours WOW for another 6, goes to bed then up again in the morning back to work to work on games...

and a guy that played Wii sports once at a friends house.......

Yep no difference there......

Yes 1 is a gamer and the other isnt.

Why is that? They've both played games. How do you distinguish them?

What is a Hardcore Gamer? Someone who plays games more often than the typical joe, and someone that usually is informed in the gaming world. That's my take on it.

SolidTy

Yeah man, I think thats as close a deffinition as anybody is going to get.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

Dibdibdobdobo

You have no clue.........

Yeah your right there is no difference between a guy who works in a game developers all day goes home plays CSS for 4 hours WOW for another 6, goes to bed then up again in the morning back to work to work on games...

and a guy that played Wii sports once at a friends house.......

Yep no difference there......

Yes 1 is a gamer and the other isnt. Because someone once played a game once dont mean they are a gamer at all.

Thanks for the comedy post. We needed something to lighten to the situation and your comedy done just that.

Anytime... good way for you to dodge the point I made, but this is system wars :)

What about pro-gamers who game for a living, would you not describe them as hardcore either?

You know the difference between softcore, hardcore and extreme porn dont you?

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

Danm_999

You have no clue.........

Yeah your right there is no difference between a guy who works in a game developers all day goes home plays CSS for 4 hours WOW for another 6, goes to bed then up again in the morning back to work to work on games...

and a guy that played Wii sports once at a friends house.......

Yep no difference there......

Yes 1 is a gamer and the other isnt.

Why is that? They've both played games. How do you distinguish them?

So if you played Soccer once that means your a soccer player on $200,000 a week? No cause it dont. Because you played a game once in your life does not mean your a gamer at all.

See where your own logic fails.

You know the difference between softcore, hardcore and extreme porn dont you?

tenaka2

LOL. Little kids and their porn references FTW.

Ermm..when I think about hardcore games images of blood and guts don;t come to my mind. To me hardcore game = very complex one. Obviously there are such hardcore games

What in Porn is more extreme than Hardcore?Dibdibdobdobo

Extreme porn is more hardcore than hardcore porn. The English language is great, it can be used to define a whole range of stages and phases.

Most of us would use the words, Day, Sunset, Night and Dawn..... but your prob just happy with Day and Night, it gets a bit complicated any other way really.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You know the difference between softcore, hardcore and extreme porn dont you?

x_SuperMario_x

LOL. Little kids and their porn references FTW.

My Porn made no reference to little kids.... your a sick puppy.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

tenaka2

You have no clue.........

Yeah your right there is no difference between a guy who works in a game developers all day goes home plays CSS for 4 hours WOW for another 6, goes to bed then up again in the morning back to work to work on games...

and a guy that played Wii sports once at a friends house.......

Yep no difference there......

Yes 1 is a gamer and the other isnt. Because someone once played a game once dont mean they are a gamer at all.

Thanks for the comedy post. We needed something to lighten to the situation and your comedy done just that.

Anytime... good way for you to dodge the point I made, but this is system wars :)

What about pro-gamers who game for a living, would you not describe them as hardcore either?

You know the difference between softcore, hardcore and extreme porn dont you?

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

What in Porn is more extreme than Hardcore?tenaka2

Extreme porn is more hardcore than hardcore porn. The English language is great, it can be used to define a whole range of stages and phases.

Most of us would use the words, Day, Sunset, Night and Dawn..... but your prob just happy with Day and Night, it gets a bit complicated any other way really.

:lol: /thread

So if you played Soccer once that means your a soccer player on $200,000 a week? No cause it dont. Because you played a game once in your life does not mean your a gamer at all.

See where your own logic fails.

Dibdibdobdobo

See, now your creating degrees. You've just said there's no such thing as a hardcore gamer, only gamers and non-gamers. Yet you consider someone who has played games a non-gamer, because they haven't played ENOUGH games.

You've just pointed out the logical problem with your own position. There are degrees of dedication to gaming, from virtual neglect to being very hardcore. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how much violence a game has.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

What in Porn is more extreme than Hardcore?tenaka2

Extreme porn is more hardcore than hardcore porn. The English language is great, it can be used to define a whole range of stages and phases.

Most of us would use the words, Day, Sunset, Night and Dawn..... but your prob just happy with Day and Night, it gets a bit complicated any other way really.

I would not know. I dont watch porn i just go out on the pull and do a live show for my eyes and the lucky lasses eyes only.

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

Dibdibdobdobo

You completely miss the point of what 'hardcore gamer' really means.

It's not about the violence, swearing, guns, bllod and whetever you listed. It's about how much time and dedication you invest in it.

So, I ride my bike to work, go jogging every other day and perhaps sometimes go snowboarding or something like that. But does that make me a sportsman, an athlete? Or are you trying to say that there can only be those people who do sports and those who don't?

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

Dibdibdobdobo

Actually, it does. It makes him a professional poker player.

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

Dibdibdobdobo

You just proved my point.

A poker player who earns his money playing poker is called a 'Professional' Poker Player.

'Professional - participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs'

So you see, its quite simple. The example you gave above is shown to be a 'Professional' poker player. Where as you (amongst other things) would be referred to as someone who plays poker 'now and then'.

Ok now what about this don't you understand?

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

So if you played Soccer once that means your a soccer player on $200,000 a week? No cause it dont. Because you played a game once in your life does not mean your a gamer at all.

See where your own logic fails.

Danm_999

See, now your creating degrees. You've just said there's no such thing as a hardcore gamer, only gamers and non-gamers. Yet you consider someone who has played games a non-gamer, because they haven't played ENOUGH games.

You've just pointed out the logical problem with your own position. There are degrees of dedication to gaming, from virtual neglect to being very hardcore. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how much violence a game has.

I havent pointed out no logical problems. Someone who has played a game once in there life or on the odd occasion around a friends house is not a gamer! I play Soccer occasionally but i'm not a sports enthusiast! Its the same with games. Because i've been to America does not make me American. Because iv tried something it does not automatically make me something which im not.

all those who got gaming systems and play games are called GAMERS... you can be interested in mini-games, or shooters, or rpgs, or racing games or else sports games... if you enjoy and spend time gaming that makes you a GAMER...

Casual & hardcore does not exist... a true/hardcore/casual gamer is not determined by the type of games he/she enjoys or the amount of time he/she spends gaming...

IF YOU PLAY GAMES YOU ARE A GAMER LIKE OTHERS...

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

Zoso-8

Actually, it does. It makes him a professional poker player.

So is he any differant from me? Is he getting any more or any less enjoyment from the game? No. I'm still enjoying the game as much as he is. The reasons for playing are differant but the game is the same. we both play poker! Either you do or dont.

Look TC, the Phrase HARDCORE GAMER is already apart of the English Vernacular and Gaming Community. You can argue with the entire world if you want, but the MASSES have decided they do exist.

Some things in Language are pretty strange, but it is what it is.

Arguing with us won't do anything, and you'll just lose anyways.

If you want to change the entire worlds perception on matters, you better start running for office, because that's going to take time.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

So if you played Soccer once that means your a soccer player on $200,000 a week? No cause it dont. Because you played a game once in your life does not mean your a gamer at all.

See where your own logic fails.

Dibdibdobdobo

See, now your creating degrees. You've just said there's no such thing as a hardcore gamer, only gamers and non-gamers. Yet you consider someone who has played games a non-gamer, because they haven't played ENOUGH games.

You've just pointed out the logical problem with your own position. There are degrees of dedication to gaming, from virtual neglect to being very hardcore. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how much violence a game has.

I havent pointed out no logical problems. Someone who has played a game once in there life or on the odd occasion around a friends house is not a gamer! I play Soccer occasionally but i'm not a sports enthusiast! Its the same with games. Because i've been to America does not make me American. Because iv tried something it does not automatically make me something which im not.

Yes, but the premise of your thread is that degrees don't exist, your obviously admitting here they do.