There is no such thing as HARDCORE gamers.

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

Dibdibdobdobo

Actually, it does. It makes him a professional poker player.

So is he any differant from me? Is he getting any more or any less enjoyment from the game? No. I'm still enjoying the game as much as he is. The reasons for playing are differant but the game is the same. we both play poker! Either you do or dont.

Your now making your own criteria up for what it means to be a poker player though.

And yes, the professional poker player is quite different from you.

Look TC, the Phrase HARDCORE GAMER is already apart of the English Vernacular and Gaming Community. You can argue with the entire world if you want, but the MASSES have decided they do exist.

Some things in Language are pretty strange, but it is what it is.

Arguing with us won't do anything, and you'll just lose anyways.

If you want to change the entire worlds perception on matters, you better start running for office, because that's going to take time.

SolidTy

Exactly, people started using "bootilicious", and thats a word, right?!

So the masses are absolutely right, hardcore is a clearly defined word.

Besides, like he said, opinions aren't allowed in SW, people will just tell you you're wrong.

But wait, don't run for office in 08, because I want Obama to win.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I would not know. I dont watch porn i just go out on the pull and do a live show for my eyes and the lucky lasses eyes only.

tenaka2

I would not know, I don't do strip clubs.

In any case 'Lassie come home' dibdiddiiodidodido is on the loose.

Lasses = Girls.

"on The pull" = well i think you can work that out.

I dont go strip clubs neither.

Your point is moot because you dont know what "Hardcore" even refers to.PC360Wii

Agreed, people are either an Ignoranus or they are not.

THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!

lol

'Im going to burst alot of peoples bubbles. There is no such things as hardcore gamers! You dellusional children you either do 2 things 1) you do play games 2) you dont play games. There is no number 3) You play hardcore games! as there is no such thing as hardcore gamers nor games unlike porn. Your a gamer as simple as that, So stop trying to catergorize yourselves into a new criteria to make your sad little existance that much easier to cope with.

Whats a hardcore game? Lets see. A game with Blood, Guns, FP View, Swearing! Wait a minute that kind of stuff is added to games to make children feel all grown up about themselves in there bedrooms. Wow how fun that must be pretending your a adult because you play games with a 15 certificate thats so hardcore when your 12. Games like CoD are not hardcore theyre violent, Halo Violent, GTA violent. Violenct game are violent games not hardcore so stop using this word constantly.

Wasnt this stupid comment created by the media to make children feel appreciated when people like R* are bigging up there games with comments like "This is gonna be awesome, 18 rated, Bloodsoaked, Swear-a-thon, Hardcore gun-fest for all, for all you hardcore gamers" which basically translates to "The Whole games content is based around swearing, Gun, Blood and is aimed at people with little to zero maturity".

Theres 2 people in this world.

Gamers or Non-gamers! your either one or the other.

Dibdibdobdobo

I understand where your coming from, and Completely agree in some aspects. People who seem to be like, ZOMG im so hardcore, i play halo, are the people who fall into this category.

I do believe there is a line between casuals and hardcore players. I do not believe the wii is a casual gaming platform. Casual gamers, might be my gf. She has a Wii, mario kart and mario + Sonic at olympics. A hardcore gamer is one we plays a lot, like myself. If im at home im either reading 1)Playing a game 2)Browsing game related content 3)reading a book 4) looking at dault related content (in order from most to least). I spend 90% of my time at home doing something gaming related. this i believe is being a hardcore gamer, and by hardcore i mean just a normal gamer, a dedicated gamer, or whatever jargon of the day you ant to attach to it. (I personally think the term hardcore is such a nerdy wannabe term)

So yeah. you have gamers and you have casuals. I hate people who try tos ay their hardcore based on say, the 1 type of game they play, or that because i own a wii and not a 360 ps3 im a casual. those people however will not understand this topic because their inflated little minds cannot comprehend something other then the fiction awesomeness of their own ego.

Like the one person said hardcorre isin the gaming vocabulary just deal with it, only thing theres mulitiple definitions of hardcore, in yours it doesnt exist in ours it does, so ignore all hardcore posts or become one

Lasses = Girls.

"on The pull" = well i think you can work that out.

I dont go strip clubs neither.

Dibdibdobdobo

You thread has failed on all levels. 'Pull out' now before you end up getting lassie in trouble.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

Danm_999

Actually, it does. It makes him a professional poker player.

So is he any differant from me? Is he getting any more or any less enjoyment from the game? No. I'm still enjoying the game as much as he is. The reasons for playing are differant but the game is the same. we both play poker! Either you do or dont.

Your now making your own criteria up for what it means to be a poker player though.

And yes, the professional poker player is quite different from you.

Hmm lets see. I play 2/3 times a week online. I play Sundays down the pub for £5/$10 all in and buys in are the same price. So i can count myself as a poker player as i play a considerable ammount of time! So explain because someone plays proffesional he is any differant to i? Were both playing the game.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Look TC, the Phrase HARDCORE GAMER is already apart of the English Vernacular and Gaming Community. You can argue with the entire world if you want, but the MASSES have decided they do exist.

Some things in Language are pretty strange, but it is what it is.

Arguing with us won't do anything, and you'll just lose anyways.

If you want to change the entire worlds perception on matters, you better start running for office, because that's going to take time.

x_SuperMario_x

Exactly, people started using "bootilicious", and thats a word, right?! Unfortunately, it may be. I don't claim to keep up on every new word that get's entered. I'm still pissed off about GINORMOUS being allowed in.

So the masses are absolutely right, hardcore is a clearly defined word. I don't agree. The Masses are wrong all the time (It reminds me of a great Simpson't reference, where Doctor Hibbert says, Oh no, we've given the word "mob" a bad name), but when it comes to wordplay, this is hardly the right venue to change launguage (If such a thing can be done).Arguing with us won't change the outside world, the terms already existed before us.

Besides, like he said, opinions aren't allowed in SW, people will just tell you you're wrong. I can agree eith that, This is True. In SW, everyone is right and wrong at the sametime. Contradictions are the name of the game, and we know that when we enter. Seriously though, People can have opinions, but they aren't always right.

But wait, don't run for office in 08, because I want Obama to win. I hope he doens't have any ANTI GAME AGENDA'S, that's all I care about, because I'm Hardcore Gamer Man.

The "I"'s Have it.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Zoso-8"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

I never dodged a point which you made. Because a poker player earns his money playing poker does not make him any differant from me who occasionally plays poker in the pub! Were still both enjoying the game and were both poker players but play for differant reasons. Same goes for a person who plays for money in games and does not! Theyre both enjoying the game so whats the differance between them? There reasons for playing and not the game itself.

Dibdibdobdobo

Actually, it does. It makes him a professional poker player.

So is he any differant from me? Is he getting any more or any less enjoyment from the game? No. I'm still enjoying the game as much as he is. The reasons for playing are differant but the game is the same. we both play poker! Either you do or dont.

Your now making your own criteria up for what it means to be a poker player though.

And yes, the professional poker player is quite different from you.

Hmm lets see. I play 2/3 times a week online. I play Sundays down the pub for £5/$10 all in and buys in are the same price. So i can count myself as a poker player as i play a considerable ammount of time! So explain because someone plays proffesional he is any differant to i? Were both playing the game.

there is a difference. But no matter how much i explain it o you I doubt you will listen.

Its like saying that you are the same as hamilton, the F1 driver.

You both drive cars, its just that his is faster and does it proffesionally.

I guess you are the same as rey miers too, he travels across the amazon, but thats just walking, but we walk too!

:roll:

The "I"'s Have it.

SolidTy

LOL. The ""I""s.

But yeah I pretty much agree on everything. And yeah, Ginormous threw me for a loop too.

Oh, and I love the Simpsons. Hands down, pants off, best show on TV for the past decade.

Hmm lets see. I play 2/3 times a week online. I play Sundays down the pub for £5/$10 all in and buys in are the same price. So i can count myself as a poker player as i play a considerable ammount of time! So explain because someone plays proffesional he is any differant to i? Were both playing the game.

Dibdibdobdobo

You now don't know what the word professional means.......

Read it up in a dictionary.

Professional - 'earning one's living from an activity, such as a sport, not normally thought of as an occupation'

Your problem is not about you trying to define something, but your basic lack of understanding of the English language. No one here can help you.

There's 2 definitions of a hardcore gamer. There's the wrong definition that's exploited all the time which is basically what you described, people that need to play violent, M rated games because they're insecure about playing Mario games. Then there's the correct definition: anyone who has a passion for gaming. That's it. Anyone who passionately plays video games in general is a hardcore gamer.Lord_Omikron666

People read this, and take notes.

Actually, everyone put this in their sig so people on SW stop getting confused.

Best post on this thread so far.

Nice opinion. Come back when the word Lass sinks into your small undeveloped brain and then we'll discuss further words in the English Dictionary.

Dibdibdobdobo

No need for personal attacks, its not my fault your thread is flawed and you have made a total langer of yourself.

There's 2 definitions of a hardcore gamer. There's the wrong definition that's exploited all the time which is basically what you described, people that need to play violent, M rated games because they're insecure about playing Mario games. Then there's the correct definition: anyone who has a passion for gaming. That's it. Anyone who passionately plays video games in general is a hardcore gamer.Lord_Omikron666

LOL. This whole thread reminds me of that scene on Seinfeld.

That girl was like, "You are not a man!"

And Jerry was like, "Then what are all those sports coats doing in my closet?"

LOL. This whole thread reminds me of that scene on Seinfeld.

That girl was like, "You are not a man!"

And Jerry was like, "Then what are all those sports coats doing in my closet?"

x_SuperMario_x

Yeah, that show is great. Although not as good, I really enjoyed Larry David's Curb as well.

I don't think you understand the definition of hardcore gamer.

My brother whose rented 3 games in the past year and purchased none, and plays games maybe 1 or 2 times a month, he is a casual gamer.

Myself, I play games daily, gaming is more than something I do to kill time. I am passionate about gaming. I am a hardcore gamer.

There are three types of people: Hardcore gamers, casual gamers, non gamers.

OK, time for another analogy. People who play games a lot, are according to you, the same as people who just play games 'every now and then'. So in those terms, you would agree that people who listen to Mozart are just as big a music fan as people who listen to Daphne and Celeste??

I don't see why you can be a Wine connoisseur, or a Film buff, or a Music afficionado, yet you can't be a 'hardcore' gamer.

Hardcore is just a term to define someone who passionately plays games. Would the term game afficionado suit you better? Becasue it means the same thing essentially.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Nice opinion. Come back when the word Lass sinks into your small undeveloped brain and then we'll discuss further words in the English Dictionary.

tenaka2

No need for personal attacks, its not my fault your thread is flawed and you have made a total langer of yourself.

Wasnt a personal attack. You cannot understand such a simple word as Lass/Lasses! Its called basing your opinion on facts and the fact was your having trouble working out this word as you keep putting lassie! Thats just pointing out a flaw.

Thread isnt flawed in any way or form. I got the reaction which i expected so it was not flawed in any possible way or form.

A hardcore gamer is a person that takes games REALLY seriously and has no other hobbies or gaming is his top hobby.

and hardcore gamers (PC ones) are usually A) Rich or B) Living with their rich parents

and hardcore gamers (PC ones) are usually A) Rich or B) Living with their rich parents

xid32

Wow...just wow.

all those who got gaming systems and play games are called GAMERS... you can be interested in mini-games, or shooters, or rpgs, or racing games or else sports games... if you enjoy and spend time gaming that makes you a GAMER...

Casual & hardcore does not exist... a true/hardcore/casual gamer is not determined by the type of games he/she enjoys or the amount of time he/she spends gaming...

IF YOU PLAY GAMES YOU ARE A GAMER LIKE OTHERS...

Malta_1980

Someone who is hardcore at an activity devotes most of his/her time to the activity. Now, this may be for a living or not (this makes him/her a professional, as in a professional gamer--which is an actual term). But someone who devotes most of his/her time to videogames can properly be called a hardcore gamer.

Goldfarmers are hardcore.

[QUOTE="xid32"]

and hardcore gamers (PC ones) are usually A) Rich or B) Living with their rich parents

Kez1984

Wow...just wow.

LOL. Yeah, I had to read it again. :D

That's just one of the countless posts we get to see on SW. :lol:

I appreciate that people are tired of rigid definitions of what it means to be hardcore, as it's so often exploited by fanboys, but let's not jump too far in the other direction. There are objective degrees of dedication to gaming. There are casuals and hardcores.

You can't seriously argue that (let's use one platform here as an example) someone who plays Bedazzled and Peggle exclusively should be honestly compared to someone who plays say, Sins of a Solar Empire or Starcraft.

Yes they both play games but there's obviously a huge difference between those two individuals in tastes, knowledge and investment in gaming.

Pretending there isn't to just satisfy everybody is as poor as the argument you're opposing.

Danm_999

I agree with this, it's basically what I view it as. A hardcore gamer is one who plays all types of games, plays as many as they can get their hands on, and knows which are good and bad. A casual gamer is one who goes to the shop maybe once a month and buys whichever game draw their attention, or whatever was recommended by friends, or they saw on TV. Yes I class those kind of people (I know 3 or 4 ) who bought a 360 or PS3 because of GTA4, because their friends said it was cool, as casuals. Basically everyone in this forum is hardcore, we all love games and enjoy discussing them. To be honest the fanboys who state things like "LOL teh Galaxy is for casuals becuz it's got some colour and you can dress like a bee!!!" are actually more casual, since they restrict their gaming by only playing mature games, they are usually the people that say "But I only like games with blood" which is a ridiculous thing for a proper hardcore gamer to say.

Funny how the gaming community has created a name for gamers but then dont understand the meaning. So far i've seen several versions of what "Hardcore gamer" is.

1) Hardcore gamer is based around what system you own (EI: Hardcore = PS3,XBOX, PC. Casual = Wii)

2) Hardcore gamer is based around what kinds of games you play (EI: Bloodfilled games, FPS, Swearing = Hardcore games. Casual = Platform, Pretty colors, anything without blood)

3) Hardcore gamer is based around how many games you buy per year.

4) Hardcore gamer is based on how many hours you play games.

5) Hardcore gamer is based on if you look up games in anticipation. (EI: Net, Mags)

Theres more but i'm sure you get the jist now of what i mean.

Which defintion is it then? The gaming community created this catergory of people called "Hardcore gamers" then does not know which defintion to go with! People said my orignal post was flawed but the gaming community is flawed due to not understanding itself and the defintion which it creates.

Funny how the gaming community has created a name for gamers but then dont understand the meaning. So far i've seen several versions of what "Hardcore gamer" is.

1) Hardcore gamer is based around what system you own (EI: Hardcore = PS3,XBOX, PC. Casual = Wii)

2) Hardcore gamer is based around what kinds of games you play (EI: Bloodfilled games, FPS, Swearing = Hardcore games. Casual = Platform, Pretty colors, anything without blood)

3) Hardcore gamer is based around how many games you buy per year.

4) Hardcore gamer is based on how many hours you play games.

5) Hardcore gamer is based on if you look up games in anticipation. (EI: Net, Mags)

Theres more but i'm sure you get the jist now of what i mean.

Which definition is it then? The gaming community created this category of people called "Hardcore gamers" then does not know which definition to go with! People said my original post was flawed but the gaming community is flawed due to not understanding itself and the definition which it creates.

Dibdibdobdobo

Your intelligent is flawed.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Funny how the gaming community has created a name for gamers but then dont understand the meaning. So far i've seen several versions of what "Hardcore gamer" is.

1) Hardcore gamer is based around what system you own (EI: Hardcore = PS3,XBOX, PC. Casual = Wii)

2) Hardcore gamer is based around what kinds of games you play (EI: Bloodfilled games, FPS, Swearing = Hardcore games. Casual = Platform, Pretty colors, anything without blood)

3) Hardcore gamer is based around how many games you buy per year.

4) Hardcore gamer is based on how many hours you play games.

5) Hardcore gamer is based on if you look up games in anticipation. (EI: Net, Mags)

Theres more but i'm sure you get the jist now of what i mean.

Which definition is it then? The gaming community created this category of people called "Hardcore gamers" then does not know which definition to go with! People said my original post was flawed but the gaming community is flawed due to not understanding itself and the definition which it creates.

Lonelynight

Your intelligent is flawed.

Intelligence. K. Thanks. Bye.

Basically your saying SW's is flawed as all my observations are towards comments which are in this thread!

Yes my *intelligent* is flawed to the Max.

Overall: There is no such thing as Hardcore gamers. Community cannot agree on what the term "Hardcore gamer" means so by default "hardcore gamer" has no defintion meaning there is no such thing.

Your intelligent is flawed.

Lonelynight

LOL WUT?

Glad to see the KISS theory being applied to SW insults.

Keep it super simple.

If I would be a stamp collector then when would I get to be a hardcore stamp collector???Supafly1

If I would be a stamp collector then when would I get to be a hardcore stamp collector???Supafly1

Only if you ownz a million stamps and all soaked in the blood of your enemies.

Heres the difference.

Gamer: plays games just for fun, this is where 80% of people (like me) fit.

Hardcore gamer: Plays the same game for hours on end just to get better, is in a clan of other hardcore gamers whi will train toghether twice a week. Plays in competitions and tournemants for money. The sort of people who still play counterstrike 8 hours a day.

NinjaMunkey01

[QUOTE="Supafly1"]If I would be a stamp collector then when would I get to be a hardcore stamp collector???Dibdibdobdobo

Only if you ownz a million stamps and all soaked in the blood of your enemies.

Harcore means a dedicated gamer, someone who plays 6 hours a day, someone that knows everything upcoming ect.

Your refering to Hardcore violence. not gaming.

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="Supafly1"]If I would be a stamp collector then when would I get to be a hardcore stamp collector???PC360Wii

Only if you ownz a million stamps and all soaked in the blood of your enemies.

Harcore means a dedicated gamer, someone who plays 6 hours a day, someone that knows everything upcoming ect.

Your refering to Hardcore violence. not gaming.

I'm refering to nothing. I'm just joking there.

I dont play games 6 hours each day but i have already been referred to as a Hardcore gamer?!

I play games, I discuss games, I am learning to make games, Id like to get a job in the games industry. Exactly what category does that fall under? Addict, enthusiast, hardcore, major geek - all of the above?

A hardcore gamer is not someone who jumps on the couch screaming at a screen while playing COD4 or any other violent game.

A 'hardcore' game is a complex game that demands alot from the player, and is very difficult to master. Indeed violent games dont equal hardcore games.

However a hardcore game =/= a hardcore gamer...

Hardcore gamer - Plays games almost as much, as much or more then they work their job/school. The like challenges, and usually competition. They would rather buy that new game and live on romen noodles then eat well for the week.

Gamer - Plays games. Has played games. Will play games in the future. Plays a variety of gamers. ( sorry grandma playing solitare on the computer doesnt coun't)

Casual Gamer - Plays very few games or very limited in their gaming choices. These include people who play Madden and like nothing else. Or Yahoo games. Or the Sims. The don't own multiple systems.

Those are my 3 types of gamers.

[QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"]There's 2 definitions of a hardcore gamer. There's the wrong definition that's exploited all the time which is basically what you described, people that need to play violent, M rated games because they're insecure about playing Mario games. Then there's the correct definition: anyone who has a passion for gaming. That's it. Anyone who passionately plays video games in general is a hardcore gamer.AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="Supafly1"]If I would be a stamp collector then when would I get to be a hardcore stamp collector???PC360Wii

Only if you ownz a million stamps and all soaked in the blood of your enemies.

Harcore means a dedicated gamer, someone who plays 6 hours a day, someone that knows everything upcoming ect.

Your refering to Hardcore violence. not gaming.

What if I play really hard and complicated games for about 2 hours every day while some other person plays a very simple game for 6 hours a day. Would that make him hardcore and not me?

Wouldn't a person addicted to videogames count as a hardcore gamer? One who spends most of his time around a console or PC and doesn't seem to do anything else. I know a few of that type.kingdre

Although I would like to try and agree with the OP...I feel this guy has it right. I dont like the term hardcore, as it puts some people on pedistals...BUT...I feel you can be one step further than just a gamer...For years I was a hardcore gamer. People always asked me questions about games as I knew pretty much anything from dates when they came out to how to get past a level and how to cheat if needed..now im a little more tame...