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#301 yellosnolvr
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I know.

I make it a habit to not reward trolls with a response, but I happen to like PC threads, and therefore frequent them quite often! And of course the same people are always bickering in them every time :(

I just couldn't help myself with my reply though because lowe does seem to pride himself on being against generalizations made by PC gamers, and yet here he is c|assifying every PC gamer as an elitist :PJust all the more reason to not take him seriously (assuming anyone still does)

Raymundo_Manuel

you do know he's supporting a guy who didnt update his graphics card drivers and then blames pc gaming for all of his inadequacies, right? anybody who would side with TC is instantly ignorant, as the TC downloaded 3rd party software to fix an error that would be fixed by going to nvidia.com and downloading the latest drivers. not knowing this simple task and then flaming PC gaming instantly makes him ignorant and makes his opinion pretty much obsolete. thus, anyone who sides with him on his argument pretty much shares the same fate as being c|assfied as completely ignorant. all you have to do is take a step back and look at what he's saying. he's calling us elitists because we dont agree with a guy who doesnt know how to maintain a pc, who also is flaming pc gaming. then after that, you back away from the thread as the case is closed and no further discussion is needed, just like im going to do right now.

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#302 lightleggy
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I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

beganoo
oh boy...I can imagine how this thread would be if instead of "the witcher" it would be "stalker clear sky" and that is not a pretty sight :lol:
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#303 lowe0
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you do know he's supporting a guy who didnt update his graphics card drivers and then blames pc gaming for all of his inadequacies, right? anybody who would side with TC is instantly ignorant, as the TC downloaded 3rd party software to fix an error that would be fixed by going to nvidia.com and downloading the latest drivers. not knowing this simple task and then flaming PC gaming instantly makes him ignorant and makes his opinion pretty much obsolete. thus, anyone who sides with him on his argument pretty much shares the same fate as being c|assfied as completely ignorant. all you have to do is take a step back and look at what he's saying. he's calling us elitists because we dont agree with a guy who doesnt know how to maintain a pc, who also is flaming pc gaming. then after that, you back away from the thread as the case is closed and no further discussion is needed, just like im going to do right now.

yellosnolvr
You've done a fantastic job of not-quite-understanding my point. It's not that PC gaming is horrible because you have to update a driver; it's that, if a console already does the job just fine, why expend the unnecessary effort, no matter how little it is? Each and every person is going to perceive a different degree of marginal cost and marginal benefit from PC vs. console gaming, and therefore everyone is going to have their own perception of whether it's actually worth it. Someone for whom those benefits do not outweigh the costs isn't necessarily wrong. They're not necessarily too inexperienced to know what benefits the PC has. They're not necessarily too incompetent to assemble and maintain a PC. They're not necessarily too poor to afford the up-front costs of a gaming PC. They just have a different opinion than you.
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#304 kozzy1234
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I pretty much stopped reading when I saw PC GAMING IS ONLY GODO FOR BLIZZARD GAMES. What a sick joke.

Had my new PC for 4+ years and not one issue that couldnt be fixed in a few mins.. maybe PC gamign just isnt for you at all, stick to wii, ps3 or 360 if you cant manage to download, install and play the witcher.

It takes a little whiel to learn pc gaming but if you have the patience its easy and well worth it, destroys console gamign in every way imo (and I own all the consoles this gen).

PC gaming gives you more freedom and custimization. I stil lplay my consoles, but PC gets way more of my time. Not to mention the community is much better then on consoles if you are doign onlien gaming.

PC gamign is easy if you know anything about computers.

Check once a month to see if a new grpahcis drive came out (its nto hard to do this.. nvidia site even checks what driver you need and if you ahve it or not automatically for you), upgrade your graphcis card once every 3-4 years, its not that hard..

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#305 mitu123
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I pretty much stopped reading when I saw PC GAMING IS ONLY GODO FOR BLIZZARD GAMES. What a sick joke.kozzy1234

Which is kind of funny seeing how I've been a PC gamer since 2001 and started playing Blizzard games last year.

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#306 Arach666
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^At least you're a PC gamer.=p

lowe0

No, I'm not. Let me make this perfectly clear: the last thing I'd want to be is one of you.

I wonder what riveting comment you would imediately make if you saw someone say this(or something similar) about console gamers,surely you would use one of those adjectives you´re so keen of,such as...elitist?

So,with this post you basically lost any legitimacy to criticize PC gamers when they make any "derrogatory" claim about consoles,wich is,amusingly,what you usually do.

Nice to see some consistency...or the lack of it,that is.

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#307 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

^At least you're a PC gamer.=p

Arach666

No, I'm not. Let me make this perfectly clear: the last thing I'd want to be is one of you.

I wonder what riveting comment you would imediately make if you saw someone say this(or something similar) about console gamers,surely you would use one of those adjectives you´re so keen of,such as...elitist?

So,with this post you basically lost any legitimacy to criticize PC gamers when they make any "derrogatory" claim about consoles,wich is,amusingly,what you usually do.

Nice to see some consistency...or the lack of it,that is.

I've spent plenty of time criticizing elitists on my own side of the fence. Feel free to check my posting history; you'll find me bursting the bubbles of the "LOL too poor to afford a $600 PS3" crowd around the PS3's launch, or the Wii "we're the mature ones, not you, because you like guns and boobies" crowd. Other times, I'm more than willing to point out when someone says something inaccurate about any platform, or to simply tell them "you're not helping" when they start making personal attacks.
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#308 SPBoss
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

you do know he's supporting a guy who didnt update his graphics card drivers and then blames pc gaming for all of his inadequacies, right? anybody who would side with TC is instantly ignorant, as the TC downloaded 3rd party software to fix an error that would be fixed by going to nvidia.com and downloading the latest drivers. not knowing this simple task and then flaming PC gaming instantly makes him ignorant and makes his opinion pretty much obsolete. thus, anyone who sides with him on his argument pretty much shares the same fate as being c|assfied as completely ignorant. all you have to do is take a step back and look at what he's saying. he's calling us elitists because we dont agree with a guy who doesnt know how to maintain a pc, who also is flaming pc gaming. then after that, you back away from the thread as the case is closed and no further discussion is needed, just like im going to do right now.

You've done a fantastic job of not-quite-understanding my point. It's not that PC gaming is horrible because you have to update a driver; it's that, if a console already does the job just fine, why expend the unnecessary effort, no matter how little it is? Each and every person is going to perceive a different degree of marginal cost and marginal benefit from PC vs. console gaming, and therefore everyone is going to have their own perception of whether it's actually worth it. Someone for whom those benefits do not outweigh the costs isn't necessarily wrong. They're not necessarily too inexperienced to know what benefits the PC has. They're not necessarily too incompetent to assemble and maintain a PC. They're not necessarily too poor to afford the up-front costs of a gaming PC. They just have a different opinion than you.

Consoles are not an exception when it comes to game updates, and the file sizes are ridiculous especially on ps3, usually exceeding 100mb and can easily go way over 500mb. Then theres also system software updates which can be regarded as driver updates. The time it takes to install an update on console I could easily install a whole game to my pc. It would take 5 minutes for a low-level pc user to learn how to install software, same goes for games. Consoles
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#309 Urworstnhtmare
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I pretty much stopped reading when I saw PC GAMING IS ONLY GODO FOR BLIZZARD GAMES. What a sick joke.mitu123

Which is kind of funny seeing how I've been a PC gamer since 2001 and started playing Blizzard games last year.

:P Well one could argue that you weren't really a PC gamer then.

Im kidding....

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#311 beganoo
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I pretty much stopped reading when I saw PC GAMING IS ONLY GODO FOR BLIZZARD GAMES. What a sick joke.mitu123

Which is kind of funny seeing how I've been a PC gamer since 2001 and started playing Blizzard games last year.

Let me put it this way.Everything BIG has pretty much made its way to consoles (bioware games, valve games ect. ect.) Even games like Crysis with Crysis 2. Evertyhing exept Blizzard games.

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#312 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No, I'm not. Let me make this perfectly clear: the last thing I'd want to be is one of you.lowe0

I wonder what riveting comment you would imediately make if you saw someone say this(or something similar) about console gamers,surely you would use one of those adjectives you´re so keen of,such as...elitist?

So,with this post you basically lost any legitimacy to criticize PC gamers when they make any "derrogatory" claim about consoles,wich is,amusingly,what you usually do.

Nice to see some consistency...or the lack of it,that is.

I've spent plenty of time criticizing elitists on my own side of the fence. Feel free to check my posting history; you'll find me bursting the bubbles of the "LOL too poor to afford a $600 PS3" crowd around the PS3's launch, or the Wii "we're the mature ones, not you, because you like guns and boobies" crowd. Other times, I'm more than willing to point out when someone says something inaccurate about any platform, or to simply tell them "you're not helping" when they start making personal attacks.

So your saying console gamers are not better..? If your not a PC gamer, and you think console gamers are also "elitists", what are you?

Obviously, you don't want to associate with PC gamers in anyway... since it would be insulting, for whatever reason that may be that a GS forum "system wars" has convince you so.

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#313 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I pretty much stopped reading when I saw PC GAMING IS ONLY GODO FOR BLIZZARD GAMES. What a sick joke.beganoo

Which is kind of funny seeing how I've been a PC gamer since 2001 and started playing Blizzard games last year.

Let me put it this way.Everything BIG has pretty much made its way to consoles (bioware games, valve games ect. ect.) Even games like Crysis with Crysis 2. Evertyhing exept Blizzard games.

HA, maybe you've forgoten Starcraft on the N64?

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#314 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I pretty much stopped reading when I saw PC GAMING IS ONLY GODO FOR BLIZZARD GAMES. What a sick joke.beganoo

Which is kind of funny seeing how I've been a PC gamer since 2001 and started playing Blizzard games last year.

Let me put it this way.Everything BIG has pretty much made its way to consoles (bioware games, valve games ect. ect.) Even games like Crysis with Crysis 2. Evertyhing exept Blizzard games.

To be honest. There was very little "BIG" stuff on PC to begin with, the platform has always been dominated by small devs and niche games.

That said..the fact that "BIG' devs and games moved to multiplat has led to ressurgence of older hardcore pc-centric genres, so I'm not complaining.

Also...this gen pretty much every "BIG" IPs have gone multiplat, not just PC ones.

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#315 AdrianWerner
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I'll concede that it's hypocritical; I'm not claiming to be perfect. I'd simply prefer not to be categorized as a current PC gamer. Besides, anyone want to claim the feeling isn't mutual?lowe0
It definitly is mutual.:P

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#316 lowe0
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So your saying console gamers are not better..? If your not a PC gamer, and you think console gamers are also "elitists", what are you?

Obviously, you don't want to associate with PC gamers in anyway... since it would be insulting, for whatever reason that may be that a GS forum "system wars" has convince you so.

Bebi_vegeta
I can't claim my side is perfect, but I'd still categorize myself as a console gamer. I enjoy attacking elitism; I really don't care if they're on my side or not.
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#317 Fumpa
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I think that you chose a bad game to start with. I'd stay away from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. too. I think one of those games is buggy. But The Witcher gave me some headaches too. I had to update the driver for my video card for the last fix.
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#318 Drakan11
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I figured that out a long time ago. If you know what you are doing, then gaming on PC is probably great. If you are the massive majority of people, then gaming on PC is absolute trash. Constant problems just trying to get a damn game to work. And getting a proper gaming PC is far more expensive than getting a console. Better just stick with the consoles. The PC can have its better graphics....its not like I am complaining about my plasma 1080p PS3 graphics. They look just fine to me.
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#319 SapSacPrime
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That sort of stuff does happen with the pc every so often, some times it happens at the worst possible time like the end of a bad day or when you are trying to get back into pc gaming. Do you know what is worse? fixing problems like that for other people so they can play a game :x. I like a healthy mix of console and pc myself, I can't say I own a system which has no merits at all.

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#320 faheem_s_i
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At least you can troubleshoot the problem on PC. If you have glitches on a console you are at the complete mercy of the devs to fix it, which may take a long time if at all.

And dont say that they dont have glitches or broken games, because they do.

ferret-gamer
They do but they are uniform problems unlike pc which is different depending on os,drivers,blah,blah.I haven't touched a pc game since Dragon Age.
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#321 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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Outdated drivers and software are the user's fault not the developer's fault.
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#322 edidili
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

At least you can troubleshoot the problem on PC. If you have glitches on a console you are at the complete mercy of the devs to fix it, which may take a long time if at all.

And dont say that they dont have glitches or broken games, because they do.

faheem_s_i

They do but they are uniform problems unlike pc which is different depending on os,drivers,blah,blah.I haven't touched a pc game since Dragon Age.

That's bullocks. 3 days ago I installed both planescape and Just Cause 2. One being a 1999 game and the other a 2010 game. Installed and played, no problems at all.

We don't live anymore in the times of windows 2000 or xp ffs.

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#323 beganoo
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

I know.

I make it a habit to not reward trolls with a response, but I happen to like PC threads, and therefore frequent them quite often! And of course the same people are always bickering in them every time :(

I just couldn't help myself with my reply though because lowe does seem to pride himself on being against generalizations made by PC gamers, and yet here he is c|assifying every PC gamer as an elitist :PJust all the more reason to not take him seriously (assuming anyone still does)

yellosnolvr

you do know he's supporting a guy who didnt update his graphics card drivers and then blames pc gaming for all of his inadequacies, right? anybody who would side with TC is instantly ignorant, as the TC downloaded 3rd party software to fix an error that would be fixed by going to nvidia.com and downloading the latest drivers. not knowing this simple task and then flaming PC gaming instantly makes him ignorant and makes his opinion pretty much obsolete. thus, anyone who sides with him on his argument pretty much shares the same fate as being c|assfied as completely ignorant. all you have to do is take a step back and look at what he's saying. he's calling us elitists because we dont agree with a guy who doesnt know how to maintain a pc, who also is flaming pc gaming. then after that, you back away from the thread as the case is closed and no further discussion is needed, just like im going to do right now.

You know what. I actually don't have the lates drivers for nVidia but it has nothing to do with me not knowing to maintain my PC. I use a 26 inch Philips TV for my PC and I need a custom resolution 1824/1026 so the picture would fill up the screen properly. I need to use the "resize dekstop" option from the nvidia control panel but BIG SUPRISE and BIG FAIL for PCs in general (again). The resize dekstop won't work at all with the lates drivers.I had to downgrade my nvidia drivers so I could use my TV with the PC.

So yeah, don't go around calling people ignorant without having all facts.Ok ? It makes you look... humm.. elites ?

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#324 DragoonKain1687
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I just can't sit on a chair for long. If it weren't for that, I might be one.

dunl12496

This. It does not matter how comfortable the chair is, a couch or a bed is always better.

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#325 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="faheem_s_i"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

At least you can troubleshoot the problem on PC. If you have glitches on a console you are at the complete mercy of the devs to fix it, which may take a long time if at all.

And dont say that they dont have glitches or broken games, because they do.

edidili

They do but they are uniform problems unlike pc which is different depending on os,drivers,blah,blah.I haven't touched a pc game since Dragon Age.

That's bullocks. 3 days ago I installed both planescape and Just Cause 2. One being a 1999 game and the other a 2010 game. Installed and played, no problems at all.

We don't live anymore in the times of windows 2000 or xp ffs.

your experience isn't a representation of pc gaming, two particular games worked on your particular set up, I've had issues with recent games that i could play on my console no problem, one being bfbc2, the other being mafia 2... its pretty definite fact that pc's can't be as stable as consoles when it comes to software because of of all the different layers and trying to abstract different types of hardware.
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#326 mitu123
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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Which is kind of funny seeing how I've been a PC gamer since 2001 and started playing Blizzard games last year.

Bebi_vegeta

Let me put it this way.Everything BIG has pretty much made its way to consoles (bioware games, valve games ect. ect.) Even games like Crysis with Crysis 2. Evertyhing exept Blizzard games.

HA, maybe you've forgoten Starcraft on the N64?

Most people do, hell, do people even know that Diablo 1 was on PS1? That's 2 Blizzard games on consoles.
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#328 beganoo
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Let me put it this way.Everything BIG has pretty much made its way to consoles (bioware games, valve games ect. ect.) Even games like Crysis with Crysis 2. Evertyhing exept Blizzard games.

mitu123

HA, maybe you've forgoten Starcraft on the N64?

Most people do, hell, do people even know that Diablo 1 was on PS1? That's 2 Blizzard games on consoles.

So ? 2 horrible ports that happend over 10 years ago. Are people able to play bioware and valve (just an example) games properely on current gen consoles? Yes. Are people able to play Blizzard games on current gen consoles? No.

There you go.Sorry but your point is laughable.

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#329 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

HA, maybe you've forgoten Starcraft on the N64?

beganoo

Most people do, hell, do people even know that Diablo 1 was on PS1? That's 2 Blizzard games on consoles.

So ? 2 horrible ports that happend over 10 years ago. Are people able to play bioware and valve (just an example) games properely on current gen consoles? Yes. Are people able to play Blizzard games on current gen consoles? No.

There you go.Sorry but your point is laughable.

That's because there are no Blizzard games on current gen consoles yet, how do we even know?:|

Horrible ports? They got good reviews, I thought horrible ports get bad reviews.

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#330 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="dunl12496"]

I just can't sit on a chair for long. If it weren't for that, I might be one.

DragoonKain1687

This. It does not matter how comfortable the chair is, a couch or a bed is always better.

Not if you actually want to concentrate

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#331 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

HA, maybe you've forgoten Starcraft on the N64?

beganoo

Most people do, hell, do people even know that Diablo 1 was on PS1? That's 2 Blizzard games on consoles.

So ? 2 horrible ports that happend over 10 years ago. Are people able to play bioware and valve (just an example) games properely on current gen consoles? Yes. Are people able to play Blizzard games on current gen consoles? No.

There you go.Sorry but your point is laughable.

There's alot of rumors for Diablo 3...

Also, may be horrible ports or not, they were etill playable on console. Blizzard is trying the console market... sure PC market is the strongest for them, but it's not like the don't care at all about console and now will activision, things can change.

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#332 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

I know.

I make it a habit to not reward trolls with a response, but I happen to like PC threads, and therefore frequent them quite often! And of course the same people are always bickering in them every time :(

I just couldn't help myself with my reply though because lowe does seem to pride himself on being against generalizations made by PC gamers, and yet here he is c|assifying every PC gamer as an elitist :PJust all the more reason to not take him seriously (assuming anyone still does)

beganoo

you do know he's supporting a guy who didnt update his graphics card drivers and then blames pc gaming for all of his inadequacies, right? anybody who would side with TC is instantly ignorant, as the TC downloaded 3rd party software to fix an error that would be fixed by going to nvidia.com and downloading the latest drivers. not knowing this simple task and then flaming PC gaming instantly makes him ignorant and makes his opinion pretty much obsolete. thus, anyone who sides with him on his argument pretty much shares the same fate as being c|assfied as completely ignorant. all you have to do is take a step back and look at what he's saying. he's calling us elitists because we dont agree with a guy who doesnt know how to maintain a pc, who also is flaming pc gaming. then after that, you back away from the thread as the case is closed and no further discussion is needed, just like im going to do right now.

You know what. I actually don't have the lates drivers for nVidia but it has nothing to do with me not knowing to maintain my PC. I use a 26 inch Philips TV for my PC and I need a custom resolution 1824/1026 so the picture would fill up the screen properly. I need to use the "resize dekstop" option from the nvidia control panel but BIG SUPRISE and BIG FAIL for PCs in general (again). The resize dekstop won't work at all with the lates drivers.I had to downgrade my nvidia drivers so I could use my TV with the PC.

So yeah, don't go around calling people ignorant without having all facts.Ok ? It makes you look... humm.. elites ?

Well it work when I tried it... that was about 2-3 months ago, but why the 1824/1026 resolution?

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#333 sleepingzzz
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Not sure if anyone else has already commented about this since I'm not going to look through all 17 pages in this thread but, I had the same problem. The torch lights showing through the walls was a problem with SLI. I turned off SLI and it works fine. There are ways to get it to work with SLI but, if you want the simple solution and just want to play the game just turn SLI off and use just one video card. SLI seems to have problems in a lot of games since developers don't put much effort in to support since most people don't have it.

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#334 mitu123
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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Most people do, hell, do people even know that Diablo 1 was on PS1? That's 2 Blizzard games on consoles.Bebi_vegeta

So ? 2 horrible ports that happend over 10 years ago. Are people able to play bioware and valve (just an example) games properely on current gen consoles? Yes. Are people able to play Blizzard games on current gen consoles? No.

There you go.Sorry but your point is laughable.

There's alot of rumors for Diablo 3...

Also, may be horrible ports or not, they were etill playable on console. Blizzard is trying the console market... sure PC market is the strongest for them, but it's not like the don't care at all about console and now will activision, things can change.

But they weren't horrible going by reviews, just not as good as the PC versions, Blizzard could easily make their games for consoles with more effort and yep, Diablo 3 is heavily rumored.
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#335 mariokart64fan
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ya im with ya on that one , i only can play nfs gta or the sims on pc , -not iv though ,

when i installed rainbow six vegas 2 it runs like uber trash and -i have way more then needed to run the game ,

its slow, and sluggish , even an old game like nacar racing 3 is slow on the pc , its a newer pc 3 yrs old 2 gig ram nearly a gig of video ram ,

and the rainbow six needs 1 gig, and the nascar racing 3 -pft it needs very little amount , less then a gig,

it still lags ,

and some programs wont run on 64 bit editions of windows but ms support says, all programs should work just fine, whats the heck is up with that

plus when i go to the store to buy games all i see in the pc section now adays is ---sims this sims that , i already got sims 2 and 3 expansions-open for business and the 2 thats included in the sims 2 deluxe,

so i dont see why id buy more pc game if its so darn expensive to get the best specs needed -1.5 gig -which this pc has but agai n its --64 bit and older games do not run well ,

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#336 curono
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Situations like that are reasons why I game on PC less then I would. Still, a lot of it is my ignorance.

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Difference lies in frequency. PC is a frequent thing to get patches, fixes, updates, downs, vista/windows 7 compatibility, etc. Console does get trouble, but in a significantly small quantity.
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#337 beganoo
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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]you do know he's supporting a guy who didnt update his graphics card drivers and then blames pc gaming for all of his inadequacies, right? anybody who would side with TC is instantly ignorant, as the TC downloaded 3rd party software to fix an error that would be fixed by going to nvidia.com and downloading the latest drivers. not knowing this simple task and then flaming PC gaming instantly makes him ignorant and makes his opinion pretty much obsolete. thus, anyone who sides with him on his argument pretty much shares the same fate as being c|assfied as completely ignorant. all you have to do is take a step back and look at what he's saying. he's calling us elitists because we dont agree with a guy who doesnt know how to maintain a pc, who also is flaming pc gaming. then after that, you back away from the thread as the case is closed and no further discussion is needed, just like im going to do right now.

Bebi_vegeta

You know what. I actually don't have the lates drivers for nVidia but it has nothing to do with me not knowing to maintain my PC. I use a 26 inch Philips TV for my PC and I need a custom resolution 1824/1026 so the picture would fill up the screen properly. I need to use the "resize dekstop" option from the nvidia control panel but BIG SUPRISE and BIG FAIL for PCs in general (again). The resize dekstop won't work at all with the lates drivers.I had to downgrade my nvidia drivers so I could use my TV with the PC.

So yeah, don't go around calling people ignorant without having all facts.Ok ? It makes you look... humm.. elites ?

Well it work when I tried it... that was about 2-3 months ago, but why the 1824/1026 resolution?

I honestly don't know why but wen I use my Philips TV with the PC I need to make the res 1824 1026 or the picture wont fill up the screen prorerly (as I said above).Go figure.

As I said before the witcher is just an example.There are many reasons PC gaming sucks.

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#338 Konxumer
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There's nothing wrong with not being technically inclined to deal with some of the realities of PC gaming. Drivers, patches, fixes, ever marching hardware, and the odds and ends you might have to pop around on the net to figure out. The reality is it's just not your deal. I say stop wasting your life minutes complaining about not having fun with PC games and instead go enjoy your consoles.
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#339 DudeNtheRoom
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Let me put it this way.Everything BIG has pretty much made its way to consoles (bioware games, valve games ect. ect.) Even games like Crysis with Crysis 2. Evertyhing exept Blizzard games.

HA, maybe you've forgoten Starcraft on the N64?

Most people do, hell, do people even know that Diablo 1 was on PS1? That's 2 Blizzard games on consoles.

LOL, I know right!!! I mean, it couldn't possibly be that there are no console games that getting a PC counter part......like Assassins Creed or The Force Unleased. Realistically, lthere are 3 major gaming platforms: 360, PS3 and PC. Maybe instead of someof these titles being ported to consoles they are simply being made for ALL platforms b/c that would be the smart thing to do.
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#340 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

You know what. I actually don't have the lates drivers for nVidia but it has nothing to do with me not knowing to maintain my PC. I use a 26 inch Philips TV for my PC and I need a custom resolution 1824/1026 so the picture would fill up the screen properly. I need to use the "resize dekstop" option from the nvidia control panel but BIG SUPRISE and BIG FAIL for PCs in general (again). The resize dekstop won't work at all with the lates drivers.I had to downgrade my nvidia drivers so I could use my TV with the PC.

So yeah, don't go around calling people ignorant without having all facts.Ok ? It makes you look... humm.. elites ?

beganoo

Well it work when I tried it... that was about 2-3 months ago, but why the 1824/1026 resolution?

I honestly don't know why but wen I use my Philips TV with the PC I need to make the res 1824 1026 or the picture wont fill up the screen prorerly (as I said above).Go figure.

As I said before the witcher is just an example.There are many reasons PC gaming sucks.

Well there's many reason why PC don't suck.

There's many reason why console suck and don't suck.

There's no perfect system out there.

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#341 mirgamer
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So yeah, don't go around calling people ignorant without having all facts.Ok ? It makes you look... humm.. elites ?beganoo
But I don't mind looking like "elites". That sounds bad a**. The fact of the matter is that PC is an ever-evolving platform. Its potential is almost limitless but with it, comes a certain degree of complexity, depending on how far you wanna go with it. Its also usually on the bleeding edge of tech so obviously, its going to require that extra effort to keep in touch with developments. The cons are that its not as straightforward as the "konsolez" but the pros, if you master the basics, you can do almost anything with it and you actually can fix the problems yourself, without requiring outside help (or service fees). And of course, you have a much superior gaming experience ;) I'm sorry to sound cliche but yes, most of the time the problem lies with you not knowing what's going on. Unless your computer casing actually exploded and your hardware parts went thermo nuclear, the fail usually lies with the user. Boy, do I sound like an "elite" now :D
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#342 tomarlyn
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Thats the fault of the programmers in the case of the game and the other software you tried. But console game development usually has more polish and quality control than the PC by nature.
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#343 LookAnDrolL
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Outdated drivers and software are the user's fault not the developer's fault. the_ChEeSe_mAn2
Especially since almost every game readme out there ask you for updated drivers