This is why PC gaming ****

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

beganoo

Just because you had rotten luck/could not figure out the problem does not make consoles superior to PC or the other way around, it just means PC gaming is not for you so stop crying and move on

Like the time when my brother went out and got a game and it would crash. Then he went out and got a new copy of the same game and it crashed. So he sat down by the console and tried to fix it... Wait you cant do that with consoles.

anyway most of the issues are made by the user and not the hardware (not all) and it was YEARS ago since i had to sit down for more then 30min to fix something.

I don't know, my PS3 has crashed more times than my PC has. And I'm using my PC like 10x more than my PS3.

So TC, you couldn't handle a problem with a PC game and therefore it sucks and the game is broken?

So, if I got a rrod or ylod does it mean every other console is broken?

So TC, you couldn't handle a problem with a PC game and therefore it sucks and the game is broken?

So, if I got a rrod or ylod does it mean every other console is broken?

coreybg

Well if it takes him days to find the solution to the problem which he could have found in less then a minute a pc isn't for him he should stick to consoles because he just isn't pro enough to handle a pc.

Yeah, because you happen to have a problem and suddenly all PC gaming sucks. I guess console gaming sucks too since my 360 has RROD'ed 3 times, and scratched my discs.

Console gamer logic - if something goes wrong with PC it's PC gamings fault, if something goes wrong with console it's just bad luck.

I like troubleshooting, it's true there may occur problems on Pc with drivers and such, but I really do like looking for a solution that will fix the problem. that's one of the reasons why I like Pc gaming.

All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

beganoo

stop reading there

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]First gen Duel GPU's + SLI = wonkiness. Pretty much a staple you would be getting all kinda issues on graphics.You have in essence, Nvidia's first trial in the duel GPU market and 2 at that... Nvidia never really did good driver support for those cards and after GTX 285/295... have left the duel gpu market. Pretty much... your gpu + nvidia drivers = wonkiness.. Cranler

Wen I got this card it was the latest and the best (I assumed) nVidia card out so yeah...

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

DudeNtheRoom

It's not like console are problem free... Your experience is different then mine, doens't make PC or Console worst because you had a bad experience.

That's not even the same thing at all. The RROD is a widespread problem. You get it, your screwed, so you either repair or replace it. But one thing is certain, that the problem is common for everyone. For the PC, every problem may be unique due to the amount of parameters involved. It could be your OS, drivers or even the game itself. Basically, you have to be the one to perform the study on what's wrong. It's entirely different from a common failure rate that everyone will know what to do if it happens. Are you gonna send your pc to the shop if you can't run a game?

The solution to that issue was lowering one of the settings IIRC. I think it was the anti-aliasing, and the issue subsided.

Seems like your solution was overly complicated and a waste of time.

Anyway, the drawbacks of open-platforms are always gonna be there, it's whether the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]Oh look 360 Prod . Sent in for repairs wait 2 weeks Oh look glitch for Fallout NV PS3 version. Waits 1,2,3,4 weeks for a patch Oh look glitch for the Withcer pc version. Google it download a community fix in 5 minutes is all OK.NWA90s

And even then... 2 weeks? 2!? 2!?!?!? wtf are you doing? Crying for 13 and a half of the days?

Cool story bro. Now, you were promising us something to show us why PC gaming "sucks"? All I see is some problems YOU had with ONE game... not an inherent problem with the platform itself.

This thread always reminds me of why ConsoleSpot is somewhat of a joke amongst PC gamers. It's called USER ERROR. You have the same problems you'd have a console, because you're not using them correctly, and blame the PC.

so, what would you do if you ran into that same glitch on a console game? nothing. because you're limited to doing nothing on consoles. lolmoving_penguin

yes but that is the better option is their opinion because they don't need to think when that happens because there isn't a damn thing they can do about. And we all know consolers love to not have to think.

We already knew that using a PC takes more knowledge than playing a console. Never heard of any Witcher glitch that requires Nhancer but then again, I have'nt really had any issues with the game.

By the way TC, last time I checked, Nhancer was'nt updated to work with more modern graphics cards like the 4xx line and newer from Nvidia.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

It's not like console are problem free... Your experience is different then mine, doens't make PC or Console worst because you had a bad experience.

That's not even the same thing at all. The RROD is a widespread problem. You get it, your screwed, so you either repair or replace it. But one thing is certain, that the problem is common for everyone. For the PC, every problem may be unique due to the amount of parameters involved. It could be your OS, drivers or even the game itself. Basically, you have to be the one to perform the study on what's wrong. It's entirely different from a common failure rate that everyone will know what to do if it happens. Are you gonna send your pc to the shop if you can't run a game?

[QUOTE="Gladestone1"]

Ive had over a 100 games on steam..Never had problems with the witcher..

Lto_thaG

console games can have glitches to, fallout new vegas maybe? and ive played several pc games and the only glitches ive had on pc games are caused by me gaming in 3d, and they are noted as i boot up the game as known graphical glitches, but if i decide to not game in 3d, every game i have runs perfectly

The less you play on your PC the more likely you are to run into problems. I play on my PC at least few times a week so it's always up to date and I get a smooth experience, of course anything can happen, but if it was like the op describes all the time I wouldn't be a PC gamer either.

And I've been frustrated with consoles as well, after not using my PS3 for a month or so I had to go through several lenghty updates, my auto-log-in didn't work and I had to recover my password, and the controller was out of battery so I had to drag a chair next to the TV to play with the short ass cord. Luckily it's not always like that.

Topic should have been

This is why I **** :P

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

beganoo

seems to me you are really a pc gamer.

Get a good pc? I like it so much more. Although consoles do have their games such as halo, cod( i prefer cod on consoles), gears, and some others like uncharted and crap. PC is where its at tho. So much to do

I don't understand the problem. My games download very very fast.

I don't know why though.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]For some reason I don't believe your story. I have played a decent amount of that game and never had a problem. Hakkai007

Well there was an issue with The Witcher but it was pretty simple to fix.

That fixed the only problem I had with the game.

I don't understand the problem. My games download very very fast.

*snip*

I don't know why though.

Robbazking

Awwwww :(

At least I get a download speed of 1+mb a second for Steam though :P

I've bought a few games on steam that I still cannot play to this day. but whatever, as long as halo pc loads, I'm set.

I don't understand the problem. My games download very very fast.

I don't know why though.

Robbazking

[QUOTE="Robbazking"]

I don't understand the problem. My games download very very fast.

*snip*

I don't know why though.

lundy86_4

Awwwww :(

At least I get a download speed of 1+mb a second for Steam though :P

i hate indiana.

*Snip* 'cos of stupid GS!

i hate indiana.

lespaul1919

Is it bad there? I'm lucky as Cogeco are the only company that supply anything near my speed to the area. Without them i'd be stuck with Bell Rural crap :P

This was just an example.Things like this happen on PCs all the time.

And ofcourse the elitest hermits are all like "its your fault". No its not. One should be able to install a game and play it.Thats its.

If you think its OK to just have problems with games and waste time to fix em or that you have to reinstall the OS over and over and over again I feel bad for you.

Have 2 PS3s and 360. Never had problems whit them and I play them all the time.My gaming PC and my laptop always have problems even tho I don't use them as nearly as often.

This is my experiance.I'm not a fanboy.Thats just how thigs are for me.And this is why I'd take console gaming over PC gaming any day jiz.That and the exclusives. (for the most part)

This was just an example.Things like this happen on PCs all the time.

beganoo

You're over-exagerrating. It doesn't happen all the time at all :? Compatability issues will always raise their heads at some point on an open platform, it's a trade-off.

And ofcourse the elitest hermits are all like "its your fault". No its not. One should be able to install a game and play it.Thats its.

If you think its OK to just have problems with games and waste time to fix em or that you have to reinstall the OS over and over and over again I feel bad for you.

beganoo

User error can very much be a reason, but it's not the only one. Sometimes issues arise, and it's not only on one platform.

Have 2 PS3s and 360. Never had problems whit them and I play them all the time.My gaming PC and my laptop always have problems even tho I don't use them as nearly as often.

This is my experiance.I'm not a fanboy.Thats just how thigs are for me.And this is why I'd take console gaming over PC gaming any day jiz.That and the exclusives. (for the most part)

beganoo

We know it's your experience. Generalizing it into "This is why PC gaming ****" is asinine. Especially considering it's different for everybody.

[QUOTE="Robbazking"]

I don't understand the problem. My games download very very fast.

*snip*

I don't know why though.

lundy86_4

Awwwww :(

At least I get a download speed of 1+mb a second for Steam though :P

My speed is usually better but I'm using Wireless on my laptop if I was on my desktop computer and ran that test it would've been better.

Your download is faster then mine but my Upload is better.

My speed is usually better but I'm using Wireless on my laptop if I was on my desktop computer and ran that test it would've been better.

Nintendo_Ownes7

That's not too shabby. Do you get a big jump with being wired? All my systems are wireless, including my gaming PC :P

I'd prefer to go with another company that offers more bandwidth and a lower speed though... Stupid ISP's :x

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

*Snip* 'cos of stupid GS!

i hate indiana.

lundy86_4

Is it bad there? I'm lucky as Cogeco are the only company that supply anything near my speed to the area. Without them i'd be stuck with Bell Rural crap :P

I live in a small town surrounded by corn fields. there is only one option for internet, and it's terrible. I have the upgraded version too. I'd hate to see the results for the normal DSL. lol, it edits DSL?

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Your download is faster then mine but my Upload is better.

My speed is usually better but I'm using Wireless on my laptop if I was on my desktop computer and ran that test it would've been better.

lundy86_4

That's not too shabby. Do you get a big jump with being wired? All my systems are wireless, including my gaming PC :P

I'd prefer to go with another company that offers more bandwidth and a lower speed though... Stupid ISP's :x

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

hkymike

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

I live in a small town surrounded by corn fields. there is only one option for internet, and it's terrible. I have the upgraded version too. I'd hate to see the results for the normal DSL. lol, it edits DSL?

lespaul1919

I kept getting the stupid "Your HTML is not well formed" :P

I hate rural areas, though yours sounds much more rural than mine. I have a lot of vineyards around me, instead of the corn fields. I guess I prefer the drinking of wine to eating corn though :P