This is why PC gaming ****

[QUOTE="hkymike"][QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"]This is hardly an exageration. I've gone through the same thing the TC has many times with PC games. It becomes a hassle. And also I hate using the keyboard/mouse for gaming. Annoying.MaddenBowler10

[QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Im with you 100 percent. Keyboard and mouse arw a horrible controllerhkymike

[QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Im with you 100 percent. Keyboard and mouse arw a horrible controllerhkymike

[QUOTE="hkymike"][QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"]This is hardly an exageration. I've gone through the same thing the TC has many times with PC games. It becomes a hassle. And also I hate using the keyboard/mouse for gaming. Annoying.MaddenBowler10

I've had more trouble with Xbox 360 mics and controllers than I've ever had with a keyboard

Really? Because I found steam to be helpful. There was something weird going on when I turned physx on in Batman AA so I uninstalled physx, and I didn't even have to bother going to the nvidia page and download it again, steam did it by itself, fixing the problem. Maybe you just have rotten luck.

[QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Im with you 100 percent. Keyboard and mouse arw a horrible controllerhkymike

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Microsoft+-+360+Wireless+Controller+-+Black/9797718.p?id=1218176210740&skuId=9797718&st=xbox 360 controller for PC&cp=1&lp=7

That would be sweet, ya know!

[QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Im with you 100 percent. Keyboard and mouse arw a horrible controllerhkymike

FPS with a controler = auto aim for the win!!!!

[QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Im with you 100 percent. Keyboard and mouse arw a horrible controllerhkymike

Controllers are horrible for first person shooters

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Your right.There aren't many unfixable bugs.If it was 3 years ago and I was still actively gaming on PC I would't quit so easily and would waste days (if i had to) just fix this, but thats exactly my point.You don't need to work that hard just to play a game on consoles.Thats why I say they are better for gaming.

Hakkai007

It is your opinion that it is better for gaming.

But that problem with The Witcher was easy to fix.

My friend had it because he used SLI and I fixed it for him in 10-15 minutes.

It took me 2 minutes to fix.1 min to find out its caused by sli, another minute to switch to single gpu mode. The Witcher wasnt really optimized for sli as far as I remember so I didnt lose any performance.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Got GeForce 9800 GX2.Its a card with 2 gpus and it runs in SLI.I'm pretty sure this is the problem.

Espada12

Those don't run SLI if I recall.

EDIT: By that I mean the cards are only viewed as one.

No, it counts as 2 cards.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Your right.There aren't many unfixable bugs.If it was 3 years ago and I was still actively gaming on PC I would't quit so easily and would waste days (if i had to) just fix this, but thats exactly my point.You don't need to work that hard just to play a game on consoles.Thats why I say they are better for gaming.

Cranler

It is your opinion that it is better for gaming.

But that problem with The Witcher was easy to fix.

My friend had it because he used SLI and I fixed it for him in 10-15 minutes.

It took me 2 minutes to fix.1 min to find out its caused by sli, another minute to switch to single gpu mode. The Witcher wasnt really optimized for sli as far as I remember so I didnt lose any performance.

You actually lose preformance.You think I didn't try this ?

Also I don't want to swich from single gpu to SLI every time I want to play StarCraft 2 for example.

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]Wow nice circle jerk you fanboys got going. You guys are so insecure about your platforms that youll say anything to justify your crappy choice to yourselves. I won't waste my time arguing with you clowns. I'm too busy playing games at 1080p 60 fps and graphic levels that would make consoles explode, never mind great innovative indies and other exclusives.hkymike

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

It is your opinion that it is better for gaming.

But that problem with The Witcher was easy to fix.

My friend had it because he used SLI and I fixed it for him in 10-15 minutes.

beganoo

It took me 2 minutes to fix.1 min to find out its caused by sli, another minute to switch to single gpu mode. The Witcher wasnt really optimized for sli as far as I remember so I didnt lose any performance.

You actually lose preformance.You think I didn't try this ?

Also I don't want to swich from single gpu to SLI every time I want to play StarCraft 2 for example.

[QUOTE="hkymike"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]Wow nice circle jerk you fanboys got going. You guys are so insecure about your platforms that youll say anything to justify your crappy choice to yourselves. I won't waste my time arguing with you clowns. I'm too busy playing games at 1080p 60 fps and graphic levels that would make consoles explode, never mind great innovative indies and other exclusives.DudeNtheRoom

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

nHancer won't work on the newest Nvidia drivers.

Use a program called Nvidia Inspector, same as nHancer but more in depth so better.

Out of my 20+ years of PC gaming there have only been a handful or so games with unfixable bugs.

Same goes for consoles.

Last time I had to go through any hoops to play a game was......was......hell I forget it's been so many years.

Sandvichman

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Circle jerk??? What's wrong can't take a few people stating their opinions on how they rather consoles over PC's? People like you make me laughhkymike

You said "I can't stand PC's. PC's are only good when it comes to surfing the web." Then you complained about how a KB/M is horrible for sports games. Well, since you're implying that consoles have better controls than a PC, why would I think you knew about contollers for the PC? Do you even rememeber what you type? Or do you just think we are all stupid?

[QUOTE="hkymike"][QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"]This is hardly an exageration. I've gone through the same thing the TC has many times with PC games. It becomes a hassle. And also I hate using the keyboard/mouse for gaming. Annoying.MaddenBowler10

[QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Im with you 100 percent. Keyboard and mouse arw a horrible controllerDragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="hkymike"] Circle jerk??? What's wrong can't take a few people stating their opinions on how they rather consoles over PC's? People like you make me laughhkymike

Grow up? Your only goal here is to annoy "PC gamers" ... and you talk about growing up? PLEASE!

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="MaddenBowler10"] and yes there are many nicely keyboard/mouse gamepads or whatever, but in my mind, they are still keyboards and they make for decent controllers for games like World of Warcraft or other RPG's. Other than that though I much prefer a solidly built Xbox or PS3 controller that you know will work and feel comfortable.hkymike

[QUOTE="hkymike"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Try facing a keyboard/mouse with your controller in a first person shooter game. You can set one up with Xpadder on CoD4 for example. Then tell us keyboard and mouses are horrible.DudeNtheRoom

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"][QUOTE="hkymike"] It's all about preference. I prefer a controller over keyboard/mouse. I can probably own anyone using a keyboard/mouse if I use a controller but thats besides the pointhkymike

What do you mean, console all have aim assist...

[QUOTE="hkymike"][QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"] I guess so since you'd be using auto aim....Bebi_vegeta

What do you mean, console all have aim assist...

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

beganoo

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

I remember having glitchy graphics when I first started up The Witcher. I don't recall using the program you mentioned to fix that problem, but I also don't really remember what I did either :P

I typically would like to just start up a game, but when a challenge like that appears for me I actually get a great sense of accomplishment when I figure it out since I'm not really the most tech savvy person out there :P My optimistic view on it has made it into more of a pro than anything :) The more I PC game, and the more I dabble with mods, or game related issues, or w/e, I learn a little bit more about how things work :)

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="hkymike"] Never used auto aim before don't need to, I'm that goodhkymike

What do you mean, console all have aim assist...

HA! Seems your the one who doesn't know anything.

Man I wish we could play, just so you would know your controler is a handicaped input.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

jhcho2

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

It's not like console are problem free... Your experience is different then mine, doens't make PC or Console worst because you had a bad experience.

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

I was a PC gamer for a long time but for the last few years I've been gaming mainly on consoles.I could't remember why i swiched but it all came back to me.

There is always some freaking prbolem with the freaking PC (and yes in my mind the "word" is not "freaking").Always.

I decided to do some PC gaming today .Wanted to try out steam.So I got the all time hermit favorite the Witcher for 15 euro.

I'll give you a very short version. All of this took me half a day counting steam registration game download ect ect.

I start up the game and ofcourse there is some strange glitch (i could see lights through walls (like fires, torches.)

So what do I do?Google it. So I did and found a "solution". I need to do something in a program called nHancer. I get the lastest version but I can't install it cus I need NET framework 3.5 or later.So I get the framework 4.0, install it but nHancer still says it needs framework 3.5 or later (wtf).Ok so... what do I do now ? Get an older version of nHancer.This time it installs.I start up the program and oh snap an... an error, program doesn't work properly.

At this point I'm like **** it. I'm not going to waste anymore of my time and I'm not gonna play a glithced out game.15 euro down the drain.Great.

The only games worth playing on a PC are blizzard games.There is always something wrong with the PC.If its no the game its a program or a driver or whatever. I was used to all this wen I was "PC only gamer" but wen I look back it now its just not worth it.Consoles are some much better.Simple is a GOOD thing.They may lack graphics but atleast you don't waste half a day just to find out your game won't work like it should.

My PC is just for starcraft 2 I guess.

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

It's not like console are problem free... Your experience is different then mine, doens't make PC or Console worst because you had a bad experience.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

You're wasting your time. I started a thread not too long ago about one thing i really hate about pc gaming - and that is basically about troubleshooting. And the troubleshooting can take up to a full day or two days to solve a problem. To make a long story short, my thread was bombarded with pc elitists with all the "It's your fault for not being able to troubleshoot well enough." vibe.

DudeNtheRoom

It's not like console are problem free... Your experience is different then mine, doens't make PC or Console worst because you had a bad experience.

It's because apprently we are PC elitism... and what we say, means nothing...:roll:

I have The Witcher and I don't even have that problem. I don't have a single problem with it.

I just got back into PC gaming and I miss it, I miss the mods, better graphics, dedicated servers and communities that don't normally give me a hard time like on consoles.

Can't wait to get my GTX 460 next month.=p

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Got GeForce 9800 GX2.Its a card with 2 gpus and it runs in SLI.I'm pretty sure this is the problem.

Espada12

Those don't run SLI if I recall.

EDIT: By that I mean the cards are only viewed as one.

Well TC I guess you probably have bad drivers, or you shouldn't use Witcher as a pc benchmark since it's buggy and unoptimized.

More likely though that you made this all up.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Got GeForce 9800 GX2.Its a card with 2 gpus and it runs in SLI.I'm pretty sure this is the problem.

mitu123

Those don't run SLI if I recall.

EDIT: By that I mean the cards are only viewed as one.

Yeah ? What does this mean then ?

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Those don't run SLI if I recall.

EDIT: By that I mean the cards are only viewed as one.

beganoo

Yeah ? What does this mean then ?

That would mean you have more than one or I'm wrong, I don't know, I was going based off what I vaguely remembered.

If you did buy 2 of those cards, run in SLI and still have problems then something is wrong...

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, it doesn't do SLI for only one GeForce 9800 GX2, that requires more of them.Espada12

Yeah ? What does this mean then ?

That would mean you have more than one or I'm wrong, I don't know, I was going based off what I vaguely remembered.

Want me to open the PC and make a pic showing its one card ? I think I know my rig better then you guys. Its just how the card is made by nvidia. 2 in 1.

Want me to open the PC and make a pic showing its one card ? I think I know my rig better then you guys. Its just how the card is made by nvidia. 2 in 1.

beganoo

I know I'm not asking you to do that, as I said I could be wrong, but I do remember one of my friends have a x2 card and it only seeing one core, could have been defective or something. Either way, I'm not doubting what you have, I have no reason to.

First gen Duel GPU's + SLI = wonkiness. Pretty much a staple you would be getting all kinda issues on graphics.You have in essence, Nvidia's first trial in the duel GPU market and 2 at that... Nvidia never really did good driver support for those cards and after GTX 285/295... have left the duel gpu market. Pretty much... your gpu + nvidia drivers = wonkiness.. jedikevin2