This is why PC gaming is superior! **7 Games for 1 cent!**

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#101 Slow_Show
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The sell isn't asking for a penny, they are saying pay what you want. That's a big difference. It's like saying you can be a douche, but that's on you.So yeah, you should be ashamed that you'd take advantage of such an offer.

It's really sad that needs to be explained to people.

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The Hundle model is based on removing every conceivable barrier to entry in order to maximise exposure, and part of that means accepting some people were never going to pay for your game (and therefore would never experience your game), so you might as well give it away and hopefully turn some of those non-customers into future customers. It looks and sounds sh*tty, but it makes perfect sense.

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#102 DJ_Lae
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This is - by far - the best selection of games in one of these indie bundles. Super Meat Boy, Cave Story, and Jamestown are FANTASTIC. Bit Trip and Shank are pretty decent. No idea about the other two. But hey, for five bucks you can't even buy one of those games (Bit Trip on Wii, Meat Boy on 360, Shank on PS3) on a console.
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#103 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

The sell isn't asking for a penny, they are saying pay what you want. That's a big difference. It's like saying you can be a douche, but that's on you.So yeah, you should be ashamed that you'd take advantage of such an offer.

It's really sad that needs to be explained to people.

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The Hundle model is based on removing every conceivable barrier to entry in order to maximise exposure, and part of that means accepting some people were never going to pay for your game (and therefore would never experience your game), so you might as well give it away and hopefully turn some of those non-customers into future customers. It looks and sounds sh*tty, but it makes perfect sense.

It's also there to generate money for charity.And even if it wasn't, the least a person could do is drop a dollar.It's just a karma thing.For someone to say "oh, I could just spend a penny on all these games because that's the lowest amount of money I can spend on them",those people are just being aholes.

A lot of work went into making those games and even then they still let you pay what you want, why would you screw over those kinds of people.It's an honor system. Sure a penny is ok, I guess but would 5 or 10 bucks really hurt you?

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#104 Slow_Show
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It's also there to generate money for charity.And even if it wasn't, the least a person could do is drop a dollar.It's just a karma thing.For someone to say "oh, I could just spend a penny on all these games because that's the lowest amount of money I can spend on them",those people are just being aholes.

A lot of work went into making those games and even then they still let you pay what you want, why would you screw over those kinds of people.It's an honor system. Sure a penny is ok, I guess but would 5 or 10 bucks really hurt you?

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To the point that it's more than these people are evidently willing to spend, yes. It's $100 worth of games -- by that same logic, why would you screw the devs over by only spending $5-10? Why not $15-20? $20-30? Would it really hurt you to pay the same $60 you would spend on Honour of Duty: Manshooter #173 for seven quality, genuinely creative and interesting titles? As I said, you can't look at it as the difference between $0.01 and $5.00+ per sale; you have to look at it as the difference between $0.01 and no sale whatsoever.

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#105 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's also there to generate money for charity.And even if it wasn't, the least a person could do is drop a dollar.It's just a karma thing.For someone to say "oh, I could just spend a penny on all these games because that's the lowest amount of money I can spend on them",those people are just being aholes.

A lot of work went into making those games and even then they still let you pay what you want, why would you screw over those kinds of people.It's an honor system. Sure a penny is ok, I guess but would 5 or 10 bucks really hurt you?

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To the point that it's more than these people are evidently willing to spend, yes. It's $100 worth of games -- by that same logic, why would you screw the devs over by only spending $5-10? Why not $15-20? $20-30? Would it really hurt you to pay the same $60 you would spend on Honour of Duty: Manshooter #173 for seven quality, genuinely creative and interesting titles? As I said, you can't look at it as the difference between $0.01 and $5.00+ per sale; you have to look at it as the difference between $0.01 and no sale whatsoever.

No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.

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That bundle looks like the best one yet (though my fav indie bundle game is still penumbra) gonna give 10 bucks

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#107 Slow_Show
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No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.heretrix

That's the point though: the dickweed isn't giving them money either way, the only difference is by letting him pay $0.01 the dickweed has a chance to experience the games and potentially become a future non-dickweed.

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#108 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.Slow_Show

That's the point though: the dickweed isn't giving them money either way, the only difference is by letting him pay $0.01 the dickweed has a chance to experience the games and potentially become a future non-dickweed.

But he is a dickweed.

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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.heretrix

That's the point though: the dickweed isn't giving them money either way, the only difference is by letting him pay $0.01 the dickweed has a chance to experience the games and potentially become a future non-dickweed.

But he is a dickweed.

Agreed, we can still call him a dickweed regardless of the justifications. It's morally low and while stating it won't stop anyone, it still feels nice to know there are others who also think said dickweed is dickweed.

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#110 ActicEdge
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1 cent... low man, just low. If you can't afford to pay a reasonable price for games, then you should probably find another, cheaper hobby.

commonfate

I don't get it. They put this bundle up as a way to induce charitable giving, paying something is better than paying nothing in any situation. What is a reasonable price? This is an honour system, its not a "you're a terrible person for doing what those who SET UP THE SYSTEM are allowing you to do." And frankly, with this deal, he basically has found the cheapest hobby ;)

Stuff like this allows people to show their true colors. Sure he/she might be beating the system but you cannot ethically defend this. Just because people will do this, doesn't make it right. You can't reasonably ask for a mininum donation or else most people would just pay that, making far less money.

I don't really consider being cheap on some games showing ones true colours. I don't really see the problem with people who are doing what the system allows them to do. Its on you and something is better than nothing. The developers are not doing this solely because its for charity as A. they can get 100% of the purchase price if the buyers decides too and B. Stuff like this gets their name out into the community of gamers. Its not a 100% we're good guys act (though I am not discrediting their kind heartedness as they completely did not have to donate anything at all). As you said, if you ask for a minimum donation you undercut your sales. As such this IS A STRATEGY TO GET MAXIMUM SALES. when you employ such a strategy that is on the honor system you know that if its up to people, its out of your hands. I don't see the reason to hate. I paid 10USD because that's what I felt I would like to give, its not a right, wrong or good amount. Its charity, the amount isn't important :|

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#111 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.heretrix

That's the point though: the dickweed isn't giving them money either way, the only difference is by letting him pay $0.01 the dickweed has a chance to experience the games and potentially become a future non-dickweed.

But he is a dickweed.

The dickweed could just pirate the game :|

The fact that they even bothered to go through the paying process is part of what charity is about.

I like to think that campaigns like this aren't solely about generating money but also about making people realize that there are a lot of great causes out there and even stuff like games can help them. If the entire thing was about money they could have just said 10 bucks flat and pretty much everyone who bought this would still drop the cash.

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#112 ActicEdge
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This is - by far - the best selection of games in one of these indie bundles. Super Meat Boy, Cave Story, and Jamestown are FANTASTIC. Bit Trip and Shank are pretty decent. No idea about the other two. But hey, for five bucks you can't even buy one of those games (Bit Trip on Wii, Meat Boy on 360, Shank on PS3) on a console.DJ_Lae

Personal thought Bit Trip was better than Cave Story myself. Pumped to finally play meat boy.

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#113 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

That's the point though: the dickweed isn't giving them money either way, the only difference is by letting him pay $0.01 the dickweed has a chance to experience the games and potentially become a future non-dickweed.

ActicEdge

But he is a dickweed.

The dickweed could just pirate the game :|

The fact that they even bothered to go through the paying process is part of what charity is about.

I like to think that campaigns like this aren't solely about generating money but also about making people realize that there are a lot of great causes out there and even stuff like games can help them. If the entire thing was about money they could have just said 10 bucks flat and pretty much everyone who bought this would still drop the cash.

Except for the fact that the penny goes nowhere and this person gets 5 games in the process. (the transaction fee makes it so the developers wind up paying for the transaction)So the only person that got anything out of this was the dickweed (and paypal). So yeah, he could have pirated the games but spending a penny is just as bad.These guys were nice enough to set this up, but I'm sure they expected people to look at the situation and be a little more generous. Sure you can pay a penny, but it's kind of crappy.

Here's the thing, the person has a PC, so don't tell me that they are too poor to drop a dollar or more towards this charity.This is only someone serving their own interest and I don't give a crap how much people try and justify it it's still slimy.

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#114 cain006
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[QUOTE="Ross_the_Boss6"]

This is like getting a "free" car wash at a school function and driving away without donating.

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No this is like some guy selling you an oyster for 1 cent and giving you the option to give the money to him, a charity, or the fishing industry...

Buying the oyster (5 games) for one cent is not a bad thing to do.

The point is if you care at all about the developer, it's better to pirate the games than to pay one cent for the games.

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#115 Slow_Show
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But he is a dickweed.

heretrix

To a degree, but not in a "OMG he's screwing the developers!!!" way -- the entire business model is predicated on accepting some people will pay essentially nothing.

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#116 heretrix
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I think of this like a tip to the waiter staff. You have the option to not tip at all (in some places) or if you feel the waiters treated you especially well you give them a decent tip (or a crappy one).

I used to hang out with this girl whose ex boyfriend owned a restaurant. One night after bowling with a group of friends we stopped by to to say hello, but the owner wasn't there. After a phone call from my friend the staff was instructed to treat us like royalty, and they did. After a few hours of eating and drinking we were told our money was no good, so we decided to give the waitstaff the money we would have spent on the food.

Now in that situation we could have walked and not had spent a dime, but we would have all felt like dicks because the wait staff worked so hard for us that night (and the food was so goddamn good). In the end, we still came out ahead cashwise and some people got paid for their great work.

This is how I feel about that bundle.

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#117 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

But he is a dickweed.

Slow_Show

To a degree, but not in a "OMG he's screwing the developers!!!" way -- the entire business model is predicated on accepting some people will pay essentially nothing.

I agree somewhat, I'm just saying it's kind of slimy, especially since a charity is involved.

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#118 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]But he is a dickweed.

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The dickweed could just pirate the game :|

The fact that they even bothered to go through the paying process is part of what charity is about.

I like to think that campaigns like this aren't solely about generating money but also about making people realize that there are a lot of great causes out there and even stuff like games can help them. If the entire thing was about money they could have just said 10 bucks flat and pretty much everyone who bought this would still drop the cash.

Except for the fact that the penny goes nowhere and this person gets 5 games in the process. (the transaction fee makes it so the developers wind up paying for the transaction)So the only person that got anything out of this was the dickweed (and paypal). So yeah, he could have pirated the games but spending a penny is just as bad.These guys were nice enough to set this up, but I'm sure they expected people to look at the situation and be a little more generous. Sure you can pay a penny, but it's kind of crappy.

Here's the thing, the person has a PC, so don't tell me that they are too poor to drop a dollar or more towards this charity.This is only someone serving their own interest and I don't give a crap how much people try and justify it it's still slimy.

I was never going to insinuate someone who has the ability to even pay for something like this can't afford a few bucks. the point is this bundle is a strategy and every strategy comes with risks and gains. Its just stupid to insinuate its slimy. For every person who spends a penny 100 more will have probably met the minimum donation. This is a scenario of "OMG you're evil because you did what your allowed to do no matter how little people who know nothing about you think you're a dick" and frankly yall need to get off your high horses. I again am in the belief that if the only interest was self serving (which I bought it to serve some of my own interests as well aka playing games at my own price) they could have just pirated the game to begin with. Charity is about intention just as much as it is about money.

And frankly blah blah process fees blah blah get over it, I had to pay a process fee too, am I being a brat about it? No because its an incurred expense when you buy something through those types of services and its equally an incurred expense when those services are how you choose to distribute your game, for charity or not for charity. Sorry but they need to ****ing deal, I'm not going to feel as though I need to donate more for that reason, that's just plain idiocracy.

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#119 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="Ross_the_Boss6"]

This is like getting a "free" car wash at a school function and driving away without donating.

cain006

No this is like some guy selling you an oyster for 1 cent and giving you the option to give the money to him, a charity, or the fishing industry...

Buying the oyster (5 games) for one cent is not a bad thing to do.

The point is if you care at all about the developer, it's better to pirate the games than to pay one cent for the games.

I don't purchase games for the developer. If I actually cared about the developer I would buy their games from their website at full price launch date. Yeah but no, this isn't about supporting anybody.

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#120 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

The dickweed could just pirate the game :|

The fact that they even bothered to go through the paying process is part of what charity is about.

I like to think that campaigns like this aren't solely about generating money but also about making people realize that there are a lot of great causes out there and even stuff like games can help them. If the entire thing was about money they could have just said 10 bucks flat and pretty much everyone who bought this would still drop the cash.

ActicEdge

Except for the fact that the penny goes nowhere and this person gets 5 games in the process. (the transaction fee makes it so the developers wind up paying for the transaction)So the only person that got anything out of this was the dickweed (and paypal). So yeah, he could have pirated the games but spending a penny is just as bad.These guys were nice enough to set this up, but I'm sure they expected people to look at the situation and be a little more generous. Sure you can pay a penny, but it's kind of crappy.

Here's the thing, the person has a PC, so don't tell me that they are too poor to drop a dollar or more towards this charity.This is only someone serving their own interest and I don't give a crap how much people try and justify it it's still slimy.

I was never going to insinuate someone who has the ability to even pay for something like this can't afford a few bucks. the point is this bundle is a strategy and every strategy comes with risks and gains. Its just stupid to insinuate its slimy. For every person who spends a penny 100 more will have probably met the minimum donation. This is a scenario of "OMG you're evil because you did what your allowed to do no matter how little people who know nothing about you think you're a dick" and frankly yall need to get off your high horses. I again am in the belief that if the only interest was self serving (which I bought it to serve some of my own interests as well aka playing games at my own price) they could have just pirated the game to begin with. Charity is about intention just as much as it is about money.

And frankly blah blah process fees blah blah get over it, I had to pay a process fee too, am I being a brat about it? No because its an incurred expense when you buy something through those types of services and its equally an incurred expense when those services are how you choose to distribute your game, for charity or not for charity. Sorry but they need to ****ing deal, I'm not going to feel as though I need to donate more for that reason, that's just plain idiocracy.

Then we have to agree to disagree. Because you will never get me agree that giving a penny to something like this is anything more than some one being a cheap dick. I'm not on a high horse, I just think that people should get paid for their hard work, even if they give you the option to be a cheap dick.

But that's just me.

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#121 heretrix
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

No this is like some guy selling you an oyster for 1 cent and giving you the option to give the money to him, a charity, or the fishing industry...

Buying the oyster (5 games) for one cent is not a bad thing to do.

ActicEdge

The point is if you care at all about the developer, it's better to pirate the games than to pay one cent for the games.

I don't purchase games for the developer. If I actually cared about the developer I would buy their games from their website at full price launch date. Yeah but no, this isn't about supporting anybody.

How are you not seeing that there is a effing charity involved here? There are in fact 2 charities involved.

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#122 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="cain006"]The point is if you care at all about the developer, it's better to pirate the games than to pay one cent for the games.

heretrix

I don't purchase games for the developer. If I actually cared about the developer I would buy their games from their website at full price launch date. Yeah but no, this isn't about supporting anybody.

How are you not seeing that there is a effing charity involved here? There are in fact 2 charities involved.

This comment was addressed directly to the developer comment, I understand this situation is different than a regular game being bought obviously. I also don't disagree with you that its cheap to pay 1 cent for this bundle as its not "the purpose". (the purpose is to attract people by letting them set what they feel is a reasonable price for the games and the cause. For example I text my friend about this deal and said he could set the price. He said he was interested and I gave him the link and said it was for charity. He is now instantly going to buy it for above the average price) I get that, I bought it for 3 times the average price myself, trust me I'm not talking for myself. I'm simply saying that this bundle is a strategy that has limitations (like every strategy) and when those limitations are exposed you can't really get mad at those exploiting them. That's just the name of the game. Anyone who was going to make any worthwhile contribution to this fund easily would have made up those who just basically took advantage of it and I would argue they did it easily as well. Its not classy I agree, its just not really a pointing fingers name calling affair.

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#123 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Except for the fact that the penny goes nowhere and this person gets 5 games in the process. (the transaction fee makes it so the developers wind up paying for the transaction)So the only person that got anything out of this was the dickweed (and paypal). So yeah, he could have pirated the games but spending a penny is just as bad.These guys were nice enough to set this up, but I'm sure they expected people to look at the situation and be a little more generous. Sure you can pay a penny, but it's kind of crappy.

Here's the thing, the person has a PC, so don't tell me that they are too poor to drop a dollar or more towards this charity.This is only someone serving their own interest and I don't give a crap how much people try and justify it it's still slimy.

heretrix

I was never going to insinuate someone who has the ability to even pay for something like this can't afford a few bucks. the point is this bundle is a strategy and every strategy comes with risks and gains. Its just stupid to insinuate its slimy. For every person who spends a penny 100 more will have probably met the minimum donation. This is a scenario of "OMG you're evil because you did what your allowed to do no matter how little people who know nothing about you think you're a dick" and frankly yall need to get off your high horses. I again am in the belief that if the only interest was self serving (which I bought it to serve some of my own interests as well aka playing games at my own price) they could have just pirated the game to begin with. Charity is about intention just as much as it is about money.

And frankly blah blah process fees blah blah get over it, I had to pay a process fee too, am I being a brat about it? No because its an incurred expense when you buy something through those types of services and its equally an incurred expense when those services are how you choose to distribute your game, for charity or not for charity. Sorry but they need to ****ing deal, I'm not going to feel as though I need to donate more for that reason, that's just plain idiocracy.

Then we have to agree to disagree. Because you will never get me agree that giving a penny to something like this is anything more than some one being a cheap dick. I'm not on a high horse, I just think that people should get paid for their hard work, even if they give you the option to be a cheap dick.

But that's just me.

If you want to argue people should be paid for their work, wouldn't you have a problem with the fact that you can set the "developer profit" slider to zero? (obviously I get that it still goes to a good cause no matter how you arrange the slider but just making a point)

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What kind of cruel person actually pays only 1 cent for these?

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You should pay more than that.
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#126 musicalmac  Moderator
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I think you missed the point of the Humble Indie Bundle, TC...
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#127 cain006
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

No this is like some guy selling you an oyster for 1 cent and giving you the option to give the money to him, a charity, or the fishing industry...

Buying the oyster (5 games) for one cent is not a bad thing to do.

ActicEdge

The point is if you care at all about the developer, it's better to pirate the games than to pay one cent for the games.

I don't purchase games for the developer. If I actually cared about the developer I would buy their games from their website at full price launch date. Yeah but no, this isn't about supporting anybody.

Eh whatever, I think they have a good idea- If you don't care, you can just pay one cent. However they usually make some good games the bonus for buying above the average, so it's always worth it (to me) to pay that much at least.

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#128 lundy86_4
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I'll pick them up when I get my new CC in the mail. Every time I go out, I end up losing it :P

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#129 ActicEdge
Member since 2008 • 24492 Posts

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="cain006"]The point is if you care at all about the developer, it's better to pirate the games than to pay one cent for the games.

cain006

I don't purchase games for the developer. If I actually cared about the developer I would buy their games from their website at full price launch date. Yeah but no, this isn't about supporting anybody.

Eh whatever, I think they have a good idea- If you don't care, you can just pay one cent. However they usually make some good games the bonus for buying above the average, so it's always worth it (to me) to pay that much at least.

Making a point, I bought it for well above average price. Its not worth my time to pull out my credit card for a penny purchase.

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#130 flashn00b
Member since 2006 • 3961 Posts

I spent 7 bucks, cuz just paying a single cent is just a jerk move.

I would personally recommend the bundle just because of Jamestown and Super Meat Boy.

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#131 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

1 cent... low man, just low. If you can't afford to pay a reasonable price for games, then you should probably find another, cheaper hobby.

ActicEdge

I don't get it. They put this bundle up as a way to induce charitable giving, paying something is better than paying nothing in any situation. What is a reasonable price? This is an honour system, its not a "you're a terrible person for doing what those who SET UP THE SYSTEM are allowing you to do." And frankly, with this deal, he basically has found the cheapest hobby ;)

This.

You guys are just pathetic. I'm not buying the games because I wouldn't play them but if someone buys them for 1 cent they are within their right to do so, I have no issue with that. Also, I guess when Steam sales comes up with games for 1$ or 2$ or even less you immediatelly donate some money to the developer, because it's immoral to pay such a low price?

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#132 nunovlopes
Member since 2009 • 2638 Posts

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

People paying a penny should be ashamed of themselves. It's for a good cause spend some goddamn money.

APiranhaAteMyVa

This, also the PayPal fees involved will mean that they will actually lose money if people pay under whatever the PayPal fees are. If people wan to try and be funny and pay a cent then just pirate the game, then you atleast wouldn't be stealing from charity too.

For crying out loud no one force them to put up this bundle at this price! Also, like the other poster above said I guess you don't use free mail services? Those cost money you know? Also I guess you donate to EVERY dedicated server of MP games you play? Those cost money too you know? And of course open-source or freeware software? I guess you don't use anything like that right? Firefox, 7-zip, teamspeak, Fraps, etc., you donate money to all of them right? All those things cost time and money to develop yet people feel no need to donate there. What a bunch of hypocrites.

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#133 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

People paying a penny should be ashamed of themselves. It's for a good cause spend some goddamn money.

heretrix

Why should anyone be ashamed of paying the price the SELLER is asking for?

The sell isn't asking for a penny, they are saying pay what you want. That's a big difference. It's like saying you can be a douche, but that's on you.So yeah, you should be ashamed that you'd take advantage of such an offer.

It's really sad that needs to be explained to people.

No, it's pay what you want as in "you can pay what you want and that's ok". I'm not criticizing on whoever pays more but you don't have any right to criticise whoever pays just 1 cent, unless you donate money to every single piece of free or open-source software you use, they usually have a donate button too you know? Like I said, what a bunch of hypocrites we have here.

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#134 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's also there to generate money for charity.And even if it wasn't, the least a person could do is drop a dollar.It's just a karma thing.For someone to say "oh, I could just spend a penny on all these games because that's the lowest amount of money I can spend on them",those people are just being aholes.

A lot of work went into making those games and even then they still let you pay what you want, why would you screw over those kinds of people.It's an honor system. Sure a penny is ok, I guess but would 5 or 10 bucks really hurt you?

heretrix

To the point that it's more than these people are evidently willing to spend, yes. It's $100 worth of games -- by that same logic, why would you screw the devs over by only spending $5-10? Why not $15-20? $20-30? Would it really hurt you to pay the same $60 you would spend on Honour of Duty: Manshooter #173 for seven quality, genuinely creative and interesting titles? As I said, you can't look at it as the difference between $0.01 and $5.00+ per sale; you have to look at it as the difference between $0.01 and no sale whatsoever.

No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.

So what about used games? When you buy a used game maybe you're being a douche because you found a way to spend less money to play the same game and the developer sees 0. What about their hard work? Shouldn't you donate $5 there too? And before you say that buying used games is within your right so is buying this bundle for 1 cent, no law is broken in either case.

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#135 UnrealLegend
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Super Meat Boy looks very tempting...

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#136 wiifan001
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super meat boy O.O I don't care about the rest but Super meat boy hangs my interest high.
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#137 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

To the point that it's more than these people are evidently willing to spend, yes. It's $100 worth of games -- by that same logic, why would you screw the devs over by only spending $5-10? Why not $15-20? $20-30? Would it really hurt you to pay the same $60 you would spend on Honour of Duty: Manshooter #173 for seven quality, genuinely creative and interesting titles? As I said, you can't look at it as the difference between $0.01 and $5.00+ per sale; you have to look at it as the difference between $0.01 and no sale whatsoever.

nunovlopes

No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.

So what about used games? When you buy a used game maybe you're being a douche because you found a way to spend less money to play the same game and the developer sees 0. What about their hard work? Shouldn't you donate $5 there too? And before you say that buying used games is within your right so is buying this bundle for 1 cent, no law is broken in either case.

I don't buy used games. Now what? Look if you want to be a selfish ahole and donate a penny to a charitable cause just because you can then there is no talking to you and you'll never understand. enjoy the games.

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#138 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

Why should anyone be ashamed of paying the price the SELLER is asking for?

nunovlopes

The sell isn't asking for a penny, they are saying pay what you want. That's a big difference. It's like saying you can be a douche, but that's on you.So yeah, you should be ashamed that you'd take advantage of such an offer.

It's really sad that needs to be explained to people.

No, it's pay what you want as in "you can pay what you want and that's ok". I'm not criticizing on whoever pays more but you don't have any right to criticise whoever pays just 1 cent, unless you donate money to every single piece of free or open-source software you use, they usually have a donate button too you know? Like I said, what a bunch of hypocrites we have here.

The default amount is 25 bucks.

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#139 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

1 cent... low man, just low. If you can't afford to pay a reasonable price for games, then you should probably find another, cheaper hobby.

nunovlopes

I don't get it. They put this bundle up as a way to induce charitable giving, paying something is better than paying nothing in any situation. What is a reasonable price? This is an honour system, its not a "you're a terrible person for doing what those who SET UP THE SYSTEM are allowing you to do." And frankly, with this deal, he basically has found the cheapest hobby ;)

This.

You guys are just pathetic. I'm not buying the games because I wouldn't play them but if someone buys them for 1 cent they are within their right to do so, I have no issue with that. Also, I guess when Steam sales comes up with games for 1$ or 2$ or even less you immediatelly donate some money to the developer, because it's immoral to pay such a low price?

Nothing wrong paying them 1¢ except the facts that in the process of receiving that 1¢,they're going to loose money with paypal fees and such That's the point that no one seems to get

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#140 HaloPimp978
Member since 2005 • 7329 Posts

That's a great deal right there. Too bad it would never happen on the consoles.

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#141 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't get it. They put this bundle up as a way to induce charitable giving, paying something is better than paying nothing in any situation. What is a reasonable price? This is an honour system, its not a "you're a terrible person for doing what those who SET UP THE SYSTEM are allowing you to do." And frankly, with this deal, he basically has found the cheapest hobby ;)

MonsieurX

This.

You guys are just pathetic. I'm not buying the games because I wouldn't play them but if someone buys them for 1 cent they are within their right to do so, I have no issue with that. Also, I guess when Steam sales comes up with games for 1$ or 2$ or even less you immediatelly donate some money to the developer, because it's immoral to pay such a low price?

Nothing wrong paying them 1¢ except the facts that in the process of receiving that 1¢,they're going to loose money with paypal fees and such That's the point that no one seems to get

That's the reality of the method they chose to distribute their games. The fact that now pay pal fees is something I should be thinking about is beyond stupid.

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#142 elessarGObonzo
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if y'all are that worried bout the money they're making go to the site and click their ads over and over. then sign up with 20 different email addresses for them to sell to other companies. that's where they get the majority of the money.

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#143 SoraX64
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I think I'll be paying more than the average come Friday. :) I love ideas like this.
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#144 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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if y'all are that worried bout the money they're making go to the site and click their ads over and over. then sign up with 20 different email addresses for them to sell to other companies. that's where they get the majority of the money.

elessarGObonzo

Did you just imply that the humble indie bundle is a spam site? They don't have ads on their site, nor do they give away your email addresses.

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#145 Chris_Williams
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this isn't for LOOK GUYS PC GAMING IS BETTER, this is a charity drive, playstation did something for this for the japan tsunami, so this is superior thing is stupid

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#146 princeofshapeir
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this isn't for LOOK GUYS PC GAMING IS BETTER, this is a charity drive, playstation did something for this for the japan tsunami, so this is superior thing is stupid

Chris_Williams
Except for the fact that this is the fourth such Humble Indie Bundle, and a variety of other developers do similar bundle offers like this. And I'm not even talking about Steam sales, which totally demolish anything on consoles...
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#147 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]No you don't. It costs money to process those sales so the difference of spending a penny and 5 bucks is huge.It's the difference between the devs getting some profit or paying so that some dickweed can get a free fix.If you are going to pay a penny, you might as well pirate it.

As for me, I've already pledged to pay 20-30 bucks for the bundle on Friday.

I think allowing people to pay a penny is a flaw because in the end they just wind up getting screwed.I think it should be a dollar minimum.

heretrix

So what about used games? When you buy a used game maybe you're being a douche because you found a way to spend less money to play the same game and the developer sees 0. What about their hard work? Shouldn't you donate $5 there too? And before you say that buying used games is within your right so is buying this bundle for 1 cent, no law is broken in either case.

I don't buy used games. Now what? Look if you want to be a selfish ahole and donate a penny to a charitable cause just because you can then there is no talking to you and you'll never understand. enjoy the games.

That's not the point, I already said I'm not going to buy at all because I won't play the games. It's the principal of people like you feeling morally superior and complaining that: 1) other people don't donate and 2) other people are not paying for the developer's work. Regarding 1) why should everyone donate to the organizations YOU feel are entitled to? Maybe people already donate somewhere else and you can't donate to everyone.Regarding2) you may not buy used games but I've heard lots of people on this board say they do and the fact is the developer's get 0 and that seems to be ok to them, so there's a contradiction here. Also, you're going to tell me you don't have any piece of free SW installed on your PC? Do you donate to everyone? Or in that case you have no problem using software without paying for it? What a douche.

Get off your high horse, you're not morally superior just because you decided to pay a few bucks for these games.

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#148 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

So what about used games? When you buy a used game maybe you're being a douche because you found a way to spend less money to play the same game and the developer sees 0. What about their hard work? Shouldn't you donate $5 there too? And before you say that buying used games is within your right so is buying this bundle for 1 cent, no law is broken in either case.

nunovlopes

I don't buy used games. Now what? Look if you want to be a selfish ahole and donate a penny to a charitable cause just because you can then there is no talking to you and you'll never understand. enjoy the games.

That's not the point, I already said I'm not going to buy at all because I won't play the games. It's the principal of people like you feeling morally superior and complaining that: 1) other people don't donate and 2) other people are not paying for the developer's work. Regarding 1) why should everyone donate to the organizations YOU feel are entitled to? Maybe people already donate somewhere else and you can't donate to everyone.Regarding2) you may not buy used games but I've heard lots of people on this board say they do and the fact is the developer's get 0 and that seems to be ok to them, so there's a contradiction here. Also, you're going to tell me you don't have any piece of free SW installed on your PC? Do you donate to everyone? Or in that case you have no problem using software without paying for it? What a douche.

Get off your high horse, you're not morally superior just because you decided to pay a few bucks for these games.

I never said anything about donating to my charity of choice was the way to go, I said that donating a penny to samething that has a charity involved was slimy. ANY charity. Learn to read and don't put stupid words in my mouth.

If I don't buy used games how does anything you said or what other people feel about it apply to me? That's idiotic.

If thinking that people taking advantage of a charitable event is slimy, consider my moral high horse well ridden, because IT IS SLIMY.

If a game is free, and attached to no charity then how in f***s name is it taking advantage of a developer? It's a price set by the developers themselves, they aren't saying pay what you want because they are giving it away.That's a completely different situation. Don't bring silly examples into this to prove a point.

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#149 razgriz_101
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Judging by some of the posts trying to justify why its ok to pay a cent really shows the sorrry state of society,humanity and the general way some people on this planet think about their fellow man.

Sickening is the only word i can think of.

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#150 amaneuvering
Member since 2009 • 4815 Posts

That's actually a really great idea.