This PC to console cross platform stuff REALLY is hurting pc games as a whole.

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#151 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]And if my 2 8800 GTs can't max World In Conflict or Flight Simulator X, I'd love to know how a single card with the same chip at the same core/memory clocks is supposed to. markop2003
It sounds like you have something else holding back you're PC either that or you're trying to play with full AA and AF which is pretty much pointless, i'ld rather have more FPS than slightly smoother edges

I haven't bothered to check my AA settings... usually I just pick the highest in-game across-the-board preset (or hit auto-detect, if it has one), and just keep knocking the preset down (to high, then medium) until I'm okay with performance. I'm a lazy gamer, and so I'm happier with this than I would be adjusting individual parameters.
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#152 YankeeDan345
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For Starters, I am a console player. But I have to say I agree, the PC is a platform that can support some unique aspects in games, yet it seems like these have been going out the window the last few years (Look at the whole indside the mech genre).
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#153 ducati101
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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]Maybe if hermits actually BOUGHT their games instead of pirating them, FEAR would still be a PC exclusive franchise.Stevo_the_gamer
Yeah, because all hermits pirate their games. :roll:

I only pirate 360 games.
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#154 AnnoyedDragon
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That's completely irrelevant. The PC is a continuous platform; uninterupted by "generations".


The original poster is trying to say that instead of games being dumbed down and ported to consoles, it feels like more and more games are being ported to the PC from consoles. I was saying that it's no suprise devs cater to console gamers, being there is alot more money in console releases than on the PC.

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My post is irrelevant because of something I didn't mention? Where in my post did I refer to generations?

I'll say it again, cross platform development is developers spreading their games out to reach the biggest possible audience, it has 'absolutely nothing' to do with favouring one platform above others. You are actually suggesting that a cross platform game that is coming out on PS3/360/PC is favouring consoles over PC, last I check consoles don't have exclusive access to these games either; everyone is losing exclusivity of a title to each other.

How can anyone say a title not being exclusive to PC is a sign of weakness when it isn't exclusive to consoles either? Absolutely ridicules and stinking of bias, you are probably confusing targeting the lowest common denominators with console favouritism.

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#155 blues35301
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[QUOTE="blues35301"]The only game that pushes pc tech is Crysis.

Stevo_the_gamer
You don't play -- or have seen -- many PC games, eh mate? :roll:

My point was that its the only pc game that flat out if was ported to consoles would take a MAJOR downgrading. Other good looking pc games run pretty well on consoles. Unlike last gen.
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#156 blues35301
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

"Max-out" Huh?

Let's see:

  • Assassin's Creed
  • GTA IV
  • World in Conflict
  • Sins of a Solar Empire
  • Stalker: Clear Sky
  • Medieval 2: Total War
  • Medieval 2 Total War Kingdms
  • Fallout 3
  • Far Cry 2
  • Grid
  • Company of Heroes
  • Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
  • Mass Effect
  • Microsoft Flight Simulator
  • Dead Space
  • Left For Dead

And those were just off the tp of my head, your 9800 GT could NOT max those games out. PS3_3DO

Um yes his 9800gt would mac out those games.

My 9800gx2 has trouble maxing those games out.

Yea effing right! Company of Heroes? and the expansion? Left 4 Dead? you should be kicking that game at over 100 fps on that card maxed. Fallout 3 as well and mass effect, both total war games. Really theres only a few you couldnt max out but still play on really high settings
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#157 04dcarraher
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And with FEAR 2 it feels like Pc getting the shaft once again. Im tired of these Games being consolized, and with bad porting, now if the ports were good not too many people would care as much. Im getting sick of everything being linear,sub-par, and only 4-6 hours long stories/gameplay. spending $50 for 4-6 hours if mp not being there or not good isnt worth 5-8 hours of work, it doesnt add up too well.
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#158 AnnoyedDragon
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And with FEAR 2 it feels like Pc getting the shaft once again.04dcarraher

Now don't get me wrong, FEAR 2 is clearly consolized, but I saw the PS3 version and I have to say...

This has to be a console optimized PC to console port, the PS3 version was horrendous. I have a friend with both a PC and PS3 hooked up to the same 22" monitor, he was able to have both FEAR 2 demos running and flip between them in the same areas for comparison. This was allot more than just a resolution difference, everything from the textures (dear god especially the textures) to lighting (what is with the green shade?) was behind the PC version.

So even if cross platform development holds back PC, I can at least say the PC versions of games tend to get the most visual polish.

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#159 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Yea effing right! Company of Heroes? and the expansion? Left 4 Dead? you should be kicking that game at over 100 fps on that card maxed. Fallout 3 as well and mass effect, both total war games. Really theres only a few you couldnt max out but still play on really high settingsblues35301
You don't own Company of Heroes, do you?
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#160 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="blues35301"] Yea effing right! Company of Heroes? and the expansion? Left 4 Dead? you should be kicking that game at over 100 fps on that card maxed. Fallout 3 as well and mass effect, both total war games. Really theres only a few you couldnt max out but still play on really high settingsStevo_the_gamer
You don't own Company of Heroes, do you?

He really doesn't, Clear sky is a beach to max as well, even my 2 4850's sometimes chug with god rays on 10.1 objects AA (probably my fault, its modded to higher then normal, lightning shadow shafts etc.)
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#161 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="blues35301"] Yea effing right! Company of Heroes? and the expansion? Left 4 Dead? you should be kicking that game at over 100 fps on that card maxed. Fallout 3 as well and mass effect, both total war games. Really theres only a few you couldnt max out but still play on really high settingsthegoldenpoo
You don't own Company of Heroes, do you?

He really doesn't, Clear sky is a beach to max as well, even my 2 4850's sometimes chug with god rays on 10.1 objects AA (probably my fault, its modded to higher then normal, lightning shadow shafts etc.)

That's partly because the engine is poorly optimized; the game looks absolutely amazing on my PC and it's no where even close to being maxed out. I play my games at 1920x1200 so it's a bit tougher to max out games.
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#162 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]You don't own Company of Heroes, do you? Stevo_the_gamer
He really doesn't, Clear sky is a beach to max as well, even my 2 4850's sometimes chug with god rays on 10.1 objects AA (probably my fault, its modded to higher then normal, lightning shadow shafts etc.)

That's partly because the engine is poorly optimized; the game looks absolutely amazing on my PC and it's no where even close to being maxed out. I play my games at 1920x1200 so it's a bit tougher to max out games.

Ahhh, i tend to play at 1280X1024, unless i haul it downstairs and hook it up to my plasma (i have a 32" 720P LCD hooked up to the other port on my card but that looks worse than my monitor)
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#163 Jamex1987
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I could care less since I game mainly on consoles anyway. Maybe if pc gamers would buy more games instead of playing the same ones for 10 years more devs would cater to them. Consoles are where the money is at.robflores370
You have a point. i'm sure there are more people still playing Counter Strike 1.6 than all the other shooters combined. That says something.
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#164 bladeeagle
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[QUOTE="robflores370"]I could care less since I game mainly on consoles anyway. Maybe if pc gamers would buy more games instead of playing the same ones for 10 years more devs would cater to them. Consoles are where the money is at.Jamex1987
You have a point. i'm sure there are more people still playing Counter Strike 1.6 than all the other shooters combined. That says something.

That counterstrike is a fun addicting game?

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#165 AnnoyedDragon
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[QUOTE="robflores370"]I could care less since I game mainly on consoles anyway. Maybe if pc gamers would buy more games instead of playing the same ones for 10 years more devs would cater to them. Consoles are where the money is at.Jamex1987
You have a point. i'm sure there are more people still playing Counter Strike 1.6 than all the other shooters combined. That says something.

And yet consoles are suffering from the same cross platform development orientation that PC is, fancy that.

Keep in mind PC is still leading in high rated exclusives, so this leads us to development costs being the cause and not anything to do with specific platforms.