Throttling the content, because Nintendo thinks we're stupid

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#51  Edited By Bigboi500
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@Chozofication: Growing up and playing Mario platformers regularly, I'd have friends and family watch with amazement as I conquered levels. They'd try to play but would always fail (lol) even on worlds like 1-2 (again lol) and quickly become discouraged and quit, so I can understand why Nintendo wanted to try something to help those helpless losers who wanted to play but couldn't advance. :P

So folks like us are the minority it would seem.

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#52 Midnightshade29
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@darkspineslayer said:

I think you're making a bigger deal out of this than it is. LBP forced you through the terrible campaign to get most of the materials. It's a bitch, but I can spend 5 minutes dicking around the editor for just over a week and play other courses in the meantime.

So you'll wait for Nintendo to give an okay for you to stop exploring Brinstar after 10 days for you go explore Norfair?

I don't understand how someone can except this... really. What is nintendos reasoning. Was that explained?

Also LBP you can get through in a few hours if you want. You open up tools as a reward, and not everyone thinks the campaign was crap, it wasn't. Only idiots who expected mario jumping which was stupid to expect from a game that is about physics.

LBP also has a button in the options menu to UNLOCK ALL TOOLS if you didn't want to play the campaign.

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#53 superbuuman
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Silly move that is unnecessary..why Nintendo?..why? :P

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#54 DocSanchez
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All Nintendo needed to do was have these as unlockables after certain conditions have been met like other games have but instead, ever the nanny, they mask it behind the idea that gamers need protecting from themselves.

Should just change their name to Nannytendo.

This was the company which supported those who tried to get Night Trap banned.

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#55  Edited By Desmonic  Moderator
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Soooo.....in essence.....this is a 9 day tutorial?....Right.

Why? Who at Ninty thought that would be "cool" or "smart"? I get not wanting the first wave of online user made maps to be a sea of broken/messy/clumsy junk. That's fine, but that's why user ratings exist. Bad maps get downvoted, good maps get upvoted. Promote the upvoted ones. Simple.

Anyway, looks like we're gonna have to wait 9 days for the first few "Holy crap, how did they even make this!?" sort of amazing maps :P

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#56 bulby_g
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@Bigboi500 said:
@bulby_g said:

It's really stupid, not quite sure why they're doing this. People buying a level design game want absolute freedom.

I wasn't even going to get this game at first but watching all the videos has convinced me. Will just have to put up with this I guess but it's definitely a mark off my score.

Yeah it's stupid to gamers like us, but from a legal standpoint it makes sense. There will be some obsessed people out there who would make levels for ten days straight without taking a break and die, and their families would sue Nintendo.

I guess Nintendo is right, people really are THAT stupid.

Yeah, that sort of thing does happen I suppose. :P Makes me think of the peanut packets that say "this product contains nuts". Some people really are that stupid it seems.

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#57 HalcyonScarlet
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I have to say, this is the first time I've seen the game and got what it's about and it looks incredible fun. Well Done Nintendo.

But for clarity, what exactly is the business model for this game?

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#58  Edited By nethernova
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@svaubel said:

I'll just wait to download it for 10 days then.

Won't work. You have to spend time each day to create stuff for the day to "count".

Anyway, it really doesn't matter because Nintendo gets a free pass for shit like that. Sheep just bend over and take it without complaining and after that they will tell you how it was a good thing. Just like the ridiculous map rotation stuff in Splatoon etc. All hail the Nintendo overlords.

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#59 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Can't really say I have too many fucks to give.

It was stupid when Splatoon did it, and I called them out on it then. This is just nine days, while it's weird the restriction exists, I can't say it's rustled my jimmies as much as it has yours.

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#60 Desmonic  Moderator
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@charizard1605: Nah, they just wanted the record of longest tutorial after AC3 took the bar up to 6h or so :P

Guess this one is gonna stick for a while though hehe

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#61 iambatman7986
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This is a stupid move. Hopefully there is a way to bypass it.

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#62 SpinoRaptor24
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Maybe Nintendo can ship the game with some baby bibs so we don't get drool and baby food all over our clothes.

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#63 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Well, it's official. Nintendo fans will defend anything.

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#64 Bread_or_Decide
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I was worried there wouldn't be something to bitch about today.

PHEW.

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#65 Heil68
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@carlquincy said:

Can't wait to try out all the tools!!!

Oh wait....

PRe-order CANCELED

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#66 Bread_or_Decide
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@madsnakehhh said:

Mmmm...what? this makes no sense at all...and no, i'm not talking about the video nor Mario Maker.

If you have to wait for 10 days to gain access to certain tools, then why even bother paying full price?

This is truly truly sad. The time delayed features has kept Splatoon feeling fresh and exciting months after release. If you can't wait nine days then you need to start taking some OCD medicine.

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@hernandezzzz said:

Well, it's official. Nintendo fans will defend anything.

It's official Nintendo haters will bitch about everything.

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#68 UltimateImp
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@nyadc said:

I agree, this is a very stupid business practice.

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#69 uninspiredcup
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Looks significantly better than LittleBigPlanet, which, lets face it, was a poor Mario knockoff.

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#70 LadyBlue
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Beyond ridiculous. :/

Oh, & they should've made this game for the N3DS. Mario maker on the go. :D

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@MirkoS77 said:

I'm really not all that interested by MM so it's not a big deal to me.

Many games withhold content early on. Mechanics aren't all present at the very start, nor is all content. It's why NG+ exists. What's bothersome here is that this is a game that is touting itself as a creative tool, and to go and withhold those tools for some arbitrary period is strange. What's Nintendo's purpose? To not overwhelm people and play nanny as usual? In that case, why not make the blocks unlockable with stages that demand proper utilization of them? And if not wishing to overwhelm is the reason, what about all those who buy the game after 9 days? What's the reason to have Nintendo hold the keys instead of placing them in the player's hands?

This doesn't make much sense.

Not many things these days are strange when it comes to Nintendo and the policy implemented by it because it is just normal practice. In situations like this people will normally fall back on the "there is a method to their madness" mantra but I can not apply it to Nintendo. Not much done by this company seems logical these days. I would think a game like this would offer all tools immediately available from the get go otherwise during this infancy stage many people will be unloading it after a few days when they find certain things unavailable. At least for me, this is the time period when I decide if I am going to persevere with said game or dump it for another.

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#72 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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Calm down, TC.

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#73 Bread_or_Decide
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@PonchoTaco said:

Calm down, TC.

I guarantee whatever content is held for 9 days won't even be noticed as one attempts to ya know, beat 100 premade levels, and enjoy all the other day one content.

But gamers aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.

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#74 Bread_or_Decide
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@ladyblue said:

Beyond ridiculous. :/

Can you believe that tropical freeze makes you beat level 7 to get to level 8. Beyond ridiculous. They're going to actually make me PLAY the game to get there. Nintendo is so stupid I hate them so much.

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#75 LadyBlue
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@ladyblue said:

Beyond ridiculous. :/

Can you believe that tropical freeze makes you beat level 7 to get to level 8. Beyond ridiculous. They're going to actually make me PLAY the game to get there. Nintendo is so stupid I hate them so much.

Can you believe the two aren't comparable? Put some thought behind your post next time. It's better for everyone involved in this these boards. Have a nice day. :)

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@SpinoRaptor24 said:

Maybe Nintendo can ship the game with some baby bibs so we don't get drool and baby food all over our clothes.

Don't give Nintendo any ideas.

Well, they don't really listen, so it's all right :P

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

I was worried there wouldn't be something to bitch about today.

PHEW.

Maybe if giving Nintendo criticism didn't make you and a large chunk of their fanbase physically ill, they'd change.

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#78 Bread_or_Decide
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@Chozofication said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

I was worried there wouldn't be something to bitch about today.

PHEW.

Maybe if giving Nintendo criticism didn't make you and a large chunk of their fanbase physically ill, they'd change.

Gamers are the ones that need to change. They make me sick. BITCH BITCH BITCH, jesus christ. Never happy with anything.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Chozofication said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

I was worried there wouldn't be something to bitch about today.

PHEW.

Maybe if giving Nintendo criticism didn't make you and a large chunk of their fanbase physically ill, they'd change.

Gamers are the ones that need to change. They make me sick. BITCH BITCH BITCH, jesus christ. Never happy with anything.

Criticism of this 9 day lock is totally valid.

Maybe you should take a break from the forums, then.

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#80 Bread_or_Decide
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@Chozofication said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Chozofication said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

I was worried there wouldn't be something to bitch about today.

PHEW.

Maybe if giving Nintendo criticism didn't make you and a large chunk of their fanbase physically ill, they'd change.

Gamers are the ones that need to change. They make me sick. BITCH BITCH BITCH, jesus christ. Never happy with anything.

Criticism of this 9 day lock is totally valid.

Maybe you should take a break from the forums, then.

Not valid. I guarantee no one will even notice those nine days when they play the game normally.

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In all fairness, a less than two week wait isn't that big of a deal. It's not like the bullshit Square-Enix is doing with Hitman anyway. All the same I think something like this sets a terrible precedent that I hope Nintendo doesn't become too comfortable with.

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#82 Bread_or_Decide
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@drinkerofjuice said:

In all fairness, a less than two week wait isn't that big of a deal. It's not like the bullshit Square-Enix is doing with Hitman anyway. All the same I think something like this sets a terrible precedent that I hope Nintendo doesn't become too comfortable with.

Everything is a big deal in gamer land.

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#83  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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@Bread_or_Decide Wow, dude. No need for a meltdown!

Have some bread.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Chozofication said:

Criticism of this 9 day lock is totally valid.

Maybe you should take a break from the forums, then.

Not valid. I guarantee no one will even notice those nine days when they play the game normally.

Do you and Floyd hang out?

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@hernandezzzz said:

@Bread_or_Decide Wow, dude. No need for a meltdown!

Have some bread.

What the hell is bread?

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@Chozofication said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Chozofication said:

Criticism of this 9 day lock is totally valid.

Maybe you should take a break from the forums, then.

Not valid. I guarantee no one will even notice those nine days when they play the game normally.

Do you and Floyd hang out?

Who the hell is Floyd?

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Chozofication said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Chozofication said:

Criticism of this 9 day lock is totally valid.

Maybe you should take a break from the forums, then.

Not valid. I guarantee no one will even notice those nine days when they play the game normally.

Do you and Floyd hang out?

Who the hell is Floyd?

You know lol

Btw that bread pillow looks so comfy :P

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#88  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Haters gonna hate.

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#89 Bread_or_Decide
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@mesome713 said:

Haters gonna hate.

Makers gonna make.

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#90  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@mesome713 said:

Haters gonna hate.

Makers gonna make.

O snaps, dem skills.

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#91  Edited By Capitan_Kid
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What is this handholding bullshit? It's really dumb to lock content for ten days.

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#92  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@Capitan_Kid: Yeah but if Street Fighter 5 does it they are considered heroes. You have to pay or play the game for massive amount of hours to unlock content. But yeah, haters are complaining about having to play a little Super Mario Maker to unlock content. Such crybabies if you ask me.

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#93  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@mesome713 said:

@Capitan_Kid: Yeah but if Street Fighter 5 does it they are considered heroes. You have to pay or play the game for massive amount of hours to unlock content. But yeah haters are complaining about having to play a little Super Mario Maker to unlock content. Such crybabies if you ask me.

Look at Splatoon, the community and the online have been kept thriving with timed release content and features. As long as its free I don't see a problem with allowing gamers to ease into the game, learn, and then have new things available in the coming weeks and months.

Again, all free. Like anyone is going to day one unlock and beat EVERYTHING and then say "gosh they kept the rest of the content unlocked i'm throwing this away."

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#94  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@Bread_or_Decide: I agree, ill be mastering what they give me, and as i unlock more content daily ill be mastering it also. I would even love it if they TroIIed me in their video game. Like make me fight a super hard boss and be like, congrats, you beat boss, here is your achievement stat. Wait, no unlock, just a freaking achievement? Trolled!

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#95  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@mesome713 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: I agree, ill be mastering what they give me, and as i unlock more content daily ill be mastering it also.

Nintendo games often have a lot of collectibles and unlockable content. Takes me months sometimes years to get through it all. Trust me, in 9 days no one will be even close to having gone through all the content to complain about what's being held from them. Then when the rest is unlocked it will be overwhelming.

But whatever..everyone here is a badass gamer and they unlock everything day one. Waiting is for babies.

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#96  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Nintendo does plenty of stupid things, this isn't necessarily one of them.

Edit: let me rephrase, it's not one I give enough of a shit about.

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@drinkerofjuice said:

In all fairness, a less than two week wait isn't that big of a deal. It's not like the bullshit Square-Enix is doing with Hitman anyway. All the same I think something like this sets a terrible precedent that I hope Nintendo doesn't become too comfortable with.

Yeah except Nintendo did that bullshit Square-Enix is doing with Hitman already, that game is called Splatoon.

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@GoldenElementXL said:

How many days did it take DriveClub and Halo MCC to work? I will be ok with 9 days.

True statement.. but guess what some (like me) picked up DC for a fraction of the price AFTER all of the fixes where implemented. My suggestion.. WAIT.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@drinkerofjuice said:

In all fairness, a less than two week wait isn't that big of a deal. It's not like the bullshit Square-Enix is doing with Hitman anyway. All the same I think something like this sets a terrible precedent that I hope Nintendo doesn't become too comfortable with.

Yeah except Nintendo did that bullshit Square-Enix is doing with Hitman already, that game is called Splatoon.

Months later and Splatoon feels like a brand new game. You may not like it but their plan worked. Kept the game feeling fresh and new, the community is thriving and excited for new features.

Love it or hate it, it works. And I have no problem with it as long as it's all a part of the initial cost of the game.

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#100  Edited By namelessnobody
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I'm amazed at TC and supporters getting upset with delayed-release content.

You know, as opposed to day-1 DLC and online subscriptions. Gaming has become tedious due to nickel-n-diming schemes. Waiting a whole NINE days for the next batch of content pales in comparison.