The minute saolin hypes a game it fails or gets cancelled, there goes Fable 4...eNT1TY
is saolin "killzoneded"?
if so...:lol:.
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The minute saolin hypes a game it fails or gets cancelled, there goes Fable 4...eNT1TY
is saolin "killzoneded"?
if so...:lol:.
[QUOTE="eNT1TY"]The minute saolin hypes a game it fails or gets cancelled, there goes Fable 4...TheKing012
is saolin "killzoneded"?
if so...:lol:.
perhaps... this would be what? his 6th resurrection? :lol: but i dont think its him.. ive only known him to hype OPEN WORLD games mainly RPGS with heaps of foilage!For the record, games have graphics not hardware.
If you ask me if the overall best PS3 exclusives have slightly better graphics than the best 360 games I would say yes.
But as we can tell from Crysis2 and likely GeOW3, the 360 is capable of supporting the same level of graphics as the best PS3 exclusives.Sony has more excellent developers and has invested a lot of money in purpose built engines for the PS3. MS on the otherhand has exactly zero games running on purpose built engines for the 360.Yet, when the very best mulitplat engines are used they can produce equivalent results for the 360.
This tells me there is no inherent meaningful difference from the hardware; but rather, who is investing the coin to squeeze as much as possible out of their system and in that case Sony has the edge.
[QUOTE="eNT1TY"]The minute saolin hypes a game it fails or gets cancelled, there goes Fable 4...TheKing012
is saolin "killzoneded"?
if so...:lol:.
Yeah he is. He's also Ab3le, ProjectNatalFan, ect.
The minute saolin hypes a game it fails or gets cancelled, there goes Fable 4...eNT1TY
Thank god he never hypes any relevant games.
[QUOTE="Scoob64"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]
They're obviously equally capable when it comes to hardware. The creator of the Cell CPU and the Xenon CPU said as much.
Sony devs have been the difference until now. C2, Rage, Gears 3, and FM4 are showing what the 360 is really capable of. DICE claims BF3 will probably be the best looking console game out, too. IMO Uc3 will be the one to beat. Gotta give ND the benefit of the doubt given the quality of Uc2's visuals. It's gonna be close either way. Exciting times, indeed.
CwlHeddwyn
yes, its pretty close... but considering PS3 came out after Xbox 360, and that it costed a lot more, 360 holds up very well- especially considering multiplats are usually alwars superior
PS3 came out later but the hardware was finalised before 360 was released. Both machines are built on 2005 technology. The PS3 has the CELL which is more powerful than the X360 Xenos but is more difficult to programme. The X360 has the 'R500' which is more powerful than the RSX in the PS3. Overall both machines are very similar in performance. PS3 has had the advantage of top SONY developers working on their exclusives. That said Crytek have shown what the X360 is capable of. Other games like Gears of War 3 and the Forza 4 are starting to show advancement in 360 graphics.i know all of this.
plus ps3 architecture is really odd... not exactly efficient. this vid explains a lot
The Crysis 2 fiasco proved the xbox will never come close to the PS3 in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 showed what the xbox 360 truly is capable of... still not even close to PS3 exclusives. Try again next gen xbox.
lol.. Maybe you need your Lens of Truth...The Crysis 2 fiasco proved the xbox will never come close to the PS3 in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 showed what the xbox 360 truly is capable of... still not even close to PS3 exclusives. Try again next gen xbox.
charlesdarwin55
The Crysis 2 fiasco proved the xbox will never come close to the PS3 in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 showed what the xbox 360 truly is capable of... still not even close to PS3 exclusives. Try again next gen xbox.
charlesdarwin55
Crysis 2 (Xbox 360) looks better than Killzone 3 :?
The Crysis 2 fiasco proved the xbox will never come close to the PS3 in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 showed what the xbox 360 truly is capable of... still not even close to PS3 exclusives. Try again next gen xbox.
keep believing that. other websites state crysis 2 on 360 is the best looking game (even PSU called it the best looking shooter on PS3 LOL0 . are you seriously saying that if IGN come along and say "UC3 has taken the graphics king crown for console games" you will then say "well they aren't credible" LOL what a joke. IGN said the best version of mass effect 2 is PS3= so yeah not credible. & Lens of truth said Killzone 3 >>> Crysis 2 so yeah, & most importantly I played both & Killzone 3 looks WAAAY better in every way, except maybe the explosions. And also ig IGN gives the crown to U3 this doesn't make it the grfx king but it doesn't mean it isn't true either. It's just IGN noboday cares, what they say doesn't matter regardless what they say. But what you describe is just praise, I trust more the analysis of lens of truth & my own eys.[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]lol.. Maybe you need your Lens of Truth...superclockedlol nice one, the OLD MULTIPLAYER DEMO analysis. Also completely irrelevant since Im talking about C2 vs KZ3[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]
The Crysis 2 fiasco proved the xbox will never come close to the PS3 in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 showed what the xbox 360 truly is capable of... still not even close to PS3 exclusives. Try again next gen xbox.
Crysis 2 (Xbox 360) looks better than Killzone 3 :?
But on the other hand resistance 2 looks better than Crysis 2. See I can do it too.[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] lol nice one, the OLD MULTIPLAYER DEMO analysis. Also completely irrelevant since Im talking about C2 vs KZ3[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]
The Crysis 2 fiasco proved the xbox will never come close to the PS3 in terms of graphics. Crysis 2 showed what the xbox 360 truly is capable of... still not even close to PS3 exclusives. Try again next gen xbox.
charlesdarwin55
Crysis 2 (Xbox 360) looks better than Killzone 3 :?
But on the other hand resistance 2 looks better than Crysis 2. See I can do it too."Crysis 2 on Xbox 360 has taken the crown for best graphics in a console game. It's well animated and the effects are great, but light is always the star of the show." - IGN
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="superclocked"]
Crysis 2 (Xbox 360) looks better than Killzone 3 :?
But on the other hand resistance 2 looks better than Crysis 2. See I can do it too."Crysis 2 on Xbox 360 has taken the crown for best graphics in a console game. It's well animated and the effects are great, but light is always the star of the show." - IGN
Exhibit A) http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head/head2head-killzone-3-vs-crysis-2-analysis/ Exhibit B) http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1146672p1.htmlIGN said the best version of mass effect 2 is PS3= so yeah not credible. & Lens of truth said Killzone 3 >>> Crysis 2 so yeah, & most importantly I played both & Killzone 3 looks WAAAY better in every way, except maybe the explosions. And also ig IGN gives the crown to U3 this doesn't make it the grfx king but it doesn't mean it isn't true either. It's just IGN noboday cares, what they say doesn't matter regardless what they say. But what you describe is just praise, I trust more the analysis of lens of truth & my own eys.[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] keep believing that. other websites state crysis 2 on 360 is the best looking game (even PSU called it the best looking shooter on PS3 LOL0 . are you seriously saying that if IGN come along and say "UC3 has taken the graphics king crown for console games" you will then say "well they aren't credible" LOL what a joke. sts106mat
you trust "lens of truth" who say on their website that there verdict is "based on personal opinion" thats no different to IGN LOL.Digital Foundry at least do a technical analysis. why would PSU say that crysis 2 is the best looking shooter on the PS3? its their opinion.
check out this GAMERS thoughts on the matter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
IGN's Mass effect 3 opinion is based on the package as a whole (it does include nearly all the DLC, therefore its the most complete version of ME2). it is not the best option if you have a 360 or PC though. IGN also said that Crysis 2 on PS3 is the weakest performance wise of the three versions, is this another reason why they are not credible? look at the posts above yours and below mine, what does that tell you LOL.
yes it is they are actual game developers they know their stuff & they do a technical analysis read it, DF is an oppinion too but both are way more credible than IGN. But the thing is DF hasn't made an analysis so LoT is the most credible right now. No that's not their oppinion that's just praise. That video has no relevance whatsoever. Yes that's another reason why they are not credible, since xbox & ps3 perform cryis 2 pretty equal but xbox dips more when there's alot of action going on making it unplayable lol while my ps3 version is smooth as butter.[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] IGN said the best version of mass effect 2 is PS3= so yeah not credible. & Lens of truth said Killzone 3 >>> Crysis 2 so yeah, & most importantly I played both & Killzone 3 looks WAAAY better in every way, except maybe the explosions. And also ig IGN gives the crown to U3 this doesn't make it the grfx king but it doesn't mean it isn't true either. It's just IGN noboday cares, what they say doesn't matter regardless what they say. But what you describe is just praise, I trust more the analysis of lens of truth & my own eys.charlesdarwin55
you trust "lens of truth" who say on their website that there verdict is "based on personal opinion" thats no different to IGN LOL.Digital Foundry at least do a technical analysis. why would PSU say that crysis 2 is the best looking shooter on the PS3? its their opinion.
check out this GAMERS thoughts on the matter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
IGN's Mass effect 3 opinion is based on the package as a whole (it does include nearly all the DLC, therefore its the most complete version of ME2). it is not the best option if you have a 360 or PC though. IGN also said that Crysis 2 on PS3 is the weakest performance wise of the three versions, is this another reason why they are not credible? look at the posts above yours and below mine, what does that tell you LOL.
yes it is they are actual game developers they know their stuff & they do a technical analysis read it, DF is an oppinion too but both are way more credible than IGN. But the thing is DF hasn't made an analysis so LoT is the most credible right now. No that's not their oppinion that's just praise. That video has no relevance whatsoever. Yes that's another reason why they are not credible, since xbox & ps3 perform cryis 2 pretty equal but xbox dips more when there's alot of action going on making it unplayable lol while my ps3 version is smooth as butter.since when were IGN's graphics ratings not credible?
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="Scoob64"]
"Crysis 2 on Xbox 360 has taken the crown for best graphics in a console game. It's well animated and the effects are great, but light is always the star of the show." - IGN
Exhibit A) http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head/head2head-killzone-3-vs-crysis-2-analysis/ Exhibit B) http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1146672p1.htmlif you actually bother to read your "exhibit B evidence", you will find that it does in fact make sense and is as i stated above.
You're right I didn't bother to read that lol I retract my statement.[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]
you trust "lens of truth" who say on their website that there verdict is "based on personal opinion" thats no different to IGN LOL.Digital Foundry at least do a technical analysis. why would PSU say that crysis 2 is the best looking shooter on the PS3? its their opinion.
check out this GAMERS thoughts on the matter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
IGN's Mass effect 3 opinion is based on the package as a whole (it does include nearly all the DLC, therefore its the most complete version of ME2). it is not the best option if you have a 360 or PC though. IGN also said that Crysis 2 on PS3 is the weakest performance wise of the three versions, is this another reason why they are not credible? look at the posts above yours and below mine, what does that tell you LOL.
yes it is they are actual game developers they know their stuff & they do a technical analysis read it, DF is an oppinion too but both are way more credible than IGN. But the thing is DF hasn't made an analysis so LoT is the most credible right now. No that's not their oppinion that's just praise. That video has no relevance whatsoever. Yes that's another reason why they are not credible, since xbox & ps3 perform cryis 2 pretty equal but xbox dips more when there's alot of action going on making it unplayable lol while my ps3 version is smooth as butter.since when were IGN's graphics ratings not credible?
For example they gave the graphics of Crysis 360 9,5 & the ps3 8,5 when they're in fact pretty equal. If im not mistaken it was based not on the retail version. So yeah not credible.lul, i can't wait for a day when a Fable game is "crowned" Graphics king..[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="killzoneded"]
Gears 3 and Crysis 2 (and soon Codename Kingdoms, Fable 4 and Alan Wake 2) look better than anything on consoles
So, 360 wins in this one by far
killzoneded
If it uses the new Lionhead megameshes engine has ever chance
Fable games have never looked very good, I think everyone agrees on that.
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]yes it is they are actual game developers they know their stuff & they do a technical analysis read it, DF is an oppinion too but both are way more credible than IGN. But the thing is DF hasn't made an analysis so LoT is the most credible right now. No that's not their oppinion that's just praise. That video has no relevance whatsoever. Yes that's another reason why they are not credible, since xbox & ps3 perform cryis 2 pretty equal but xbox dips more when there's alot of action going on making it unplayable lol while my ps3 version is smooth as butter. i didn't know that LOT were developers LOL. if they are what are they working on. Bus-a-Bus will tell you that they dont the difference between HDR and prebaked lighting or something like that, dont sound like Devs to me LOL. LOT seems more like a Blog than anything else. I doubt digital foundry will lower themselves to do a Killzone 3 v Crysis 2 thread. How come cows cant agree if the best looking game on PS3 is GOW, UC2 or KZ2/3???? at least there is a large proportion of sites pointing towards crysis 2 even if not declaring it the best looking game ever. Yeah I know that, but you can make mistakes even if you work with it I think they maybe just used a different word of what they where thinking that happens all the time, if bus-a-bus is speaking the truth cause I don't know how HDR works. That's completely irrelevant but it's cause it's very close beween GOW, UC2 & KZ2/3 while crysis 2 is far FAR behind them. Called praise.you trust "lens of truth" who say on their website that there verdict is "based on personal opinion" thats no different to IGN LOL.Digital Foundry at least do a technical analysis. why would PSU say that crysis 2 is the best looking shooter on the PS3? its their opinion.
check out this GAMERS thoughts on the matter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
IGN's Mass effect 3 opinion is based on the package as a whole (it does include nearly all the DLC, therefore its the most complete version of ME2). it is not the best option if you have a 360 or PC though. IGN also said that Crysis 2 on PS3 is the weakest performance wise of the three versions, is this another reason why they are not credible? look at the posts above yours and below mine, what does that tell you LOL.
sts106mat
Killzone3
Crysis
Tie
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="Scoob64"]For example they gave the graphics of Crysis 360 9,5 & the ps3 8,5 when they're in fact pretty equal. If im not mistaken it was based not on the retail version. So yeah not credible. http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/115/1159926p1.html Lol what a noob. The resolution difference is hardly noticable according to both DF & LoT because the PS3 has 16x Af and xbox only 4x af!! Acoording to LoT (whic provides an avarage!!!) The framerate difference is only 0,5 advantage to the xbox (about as annoying as 2% screen tear of the xbox) & DF said xbox performs worse during chaotic scenes, in any case if xbox was slightly superior version (which it is not) it certanly would be nowhere near a 1 point difference in graphics, maybe 0,05. But go ahead enjoy your unplayable version while I play crysis 2 smooth as butter LOLsince when were IGN's graphics ratings not credible?
sts106mat
P.S. Gotta go to school so i can't answer you so don't think you won this just cause I don't respond for some hours LoLz
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]PS3 by far, lems were just hyping another sub-hd graphics king similar to Alan Wake... plus KZ3 is technically superior to Crysis 2 in almost every waysts106mat
yeah! coming from you that of course = total fact. you have a bizarre fascination with alan wake dont you, every single post you make mentions him, do you love him or something.
actually there are several facts as to why KZ3 is technically better than Crysis 2[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]PS3 by far, lems were just hyping another sub-hd graphics king similar to Alan Wake... plus KZ3 is technically superior to Crysis 2 in almost every wayKevinButlerVP
yeah! coming from you that of course = total fact. you have a bizarre fascination with alan wake dont you, every single post you make mentions him, do you love him or something.
actually there are several facts as to why KZ3 is technically better than Crysis 2Go ahead.
[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] But go ahead enjoy your unplayable version while I play crysis 2 smooth as butter LOLsts106mat
so your a PC gamer now LOL
No PS3 :) smooth as mothaf****** butter. Ok I go to school now I respond in some hours.actually there are several facts as to why KZ3 is technically better than Crysis 2[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]
yeah! coming from you that of course = total fact. you have a bizarre fascination with alan wake dont you, every single post you make mentions him, do you love him or something.
sts106mat
funny cause you said "in almost every way" just above, suddenly its just "several" remember its just your opinion, if you can post a list of reviews with as much praise for KZ3's graphics as those for Crysis 2, you will have a basis for an argument.
LOT is "opinion", it says on their site, what they say is not really proof of anything, just as IGN's statement that "crysis 2 takes the crown" isn't proof of anything. the only real evidence we have that crysis 2 is the best looking game at the moment is a general consensus of opinion.
in terms of both consoles, i have said before PS3, seems to have the edge with exlclusives over 360. however anyone who says "PS3 far surpasses 360" or words to that effect are just lying to themselves, or simply trolling.
observe
framerate - KZ3
no screen tearing - KZ3
no graphical bugs/pop in - KZ3
resolution - KZ3
A.I. - KZ3
Animations - KZ3
graphical consistancy - KZ3
as you can see KZ3 really does far surpass Crysis 2
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]
[QUOTE="sts106mat"]
funny cause you said "in almost every way" just above, suddenly its just "several" remember its just your opinion, if you can post a list of reviews with as much praise for KZ3's graphics as those for Crysis 2, you will have a basis for an argument.
LOT is "opinion", it says on their site, what they say is not really proof of anything, just as IGN's statement that "crysis 2 takes the crown" isn't proof of anything. the only real evidence we have that crysis 2 is the best looking game at the moment is a general consensus of opinion.
in terms of both consoles, i have said before PS3, seems to have the edge with exlclusives over 360. however anyone who says "PS3 far surpasses 360" or words to that effect are just lying to themselves, or simply trolling.
sts106mat
observe
framerate - KZ3
no screen tearing - KZ3
no graphical bugs/pop in - KZ3
resolution - KZ3
A.I. - KZ3
Animations - KZ3
graphical consistancy - KZ3
as you can see KZ3 really does far surpass Crysis 2
I see but again, thats opinions. crysis 2 looks visually stunning, KZ3 was touted by i think IGN as one of the best games graphically, since then Crysis2 comes out. even if what you said is true, perhaps the sum of crysis 2's parts > KZ3.
I dont want to turn this into a sales thread, but correct me if i am wrong, KZ3's launch in the UK, flopped in comparison to KZ2's right, so even if it were the greatest graphics in existence, what good has it actually done for the game? and what difference does it make to YOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
typical I guess, u try to change the subject and not even attempt to counter any of the points haha btw those are actually facts, although animations can be argued[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]
observe
framerate - KZ3
no screen tearing - KZ3
no graphical bugs/pop in - KZ3
resolution - KZ3
A.I. - KZ3
Animations - KZ3
graphical consistancy - KZ3
as you can see KZ3 really does far surpass Crysis 2
KevinButlerVP
I see but again, thats opinions. crysis 2 looks visually stunning, KZ3 was touted by i think IGN as one of the best games graphically, since then Crysis2 comes out. even if what you said is true, perhaps the sum of crysis 2's parts > KZ3.
I dont want to turn this into a sales thread, but correct me if i am wrong, KZ3's launch in the UK, flopped in comparison to KZ2's right, so even if it were the greatest graphics in existence, what good has it actually done for the game? and what difference does it make to YOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
typical I guess, u try to change the subject and not even attempt to counter any of the points haha btw those are actually facts, although animations can be arguedCrysis2 still looks better firing on all cylinders than the best of killzone3.
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]typical I guess, u try to change the subject and not even attempt to counter any of the points haha btw those are actually facts, although animations can be argued typical, you dodge my question LOL. like i said even if they are facts, perhaps the sum of its parts mean crysis 2 is the better looking game overall? those reviews must have thought so, resolution and framerate, animations aren't really what i am thinking about when i shooting aliens, its more about the explosions, the weapons being fired, the lighting effects all that stuff going on. its about the overall experience. like i said, crysis2 is greater than the sum of its parts. the pop in issue is overblown so much its a joke IMO, its only noticeable after you load a checkpoint in my experience, exactly the same as Gears 1 / 2 and the original Mass effect was.I see but again, thats opinions. crysis 2 looks visually stunning, KZ3 was touted by i think IGN as one of the best games graphically, since then Crysis2 comes out. even if what you said is true, perhaps the sum of crysis 2's parts > KZ3.
I dont want to turn this into a sales thread, but correct me if i am wrong, KZ3's launch in the UK, flopped in comparison to KZ2's right, so even if it were the greatest graphics in existence, what good has it actually done for the game? and what difference does it make to YOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pZf-MNo4Fg
sts106mat
remember when you said that it's all a matter of opinion? well these are facts, not opinions or anything and this is what is backing up my claims
you on the other hand have not provided any evidence, u just keep saying it looks better
[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] typical, you dodge my question LOL. like i said even if they are facts, perhaps the sum of its parts mean crysis 2 is the better looking game overall? those reviews must have thought so, resolution and framerate, animations aren't really what i am thinking about when i shooting aliens, its more about the explosions, the weapons being fired, the lighting effects all that stuff going on. its about the overall experience. like i said, crysis2 is greater than the sum of its parts. the pop in issue is overblown so much its a joke IMO, its only noticeable after you load a checkpoint in my experience, exactly the same as Gears 1 / 2 and the original Mass effect was.sts106mat
remember when you said that it's all a matter of opinion? well these are facts, not opinions or anything and this is what is backing up my claims
you on the other hand have not provided any evidence, u just keep saying it looks better
i really dont want to post that big long list of crysis 2 reviews LOL. you know the one with all the positive comments on it. i haven't seen KZ3 in person, i am certainly not saying it cant compare to crysis 2 which is what you basically did LOL. remember when you posted that you had never played alan wake, and that you didn't need to, because you had read enough reviews etc to know that it was bad? well i remember that, i have read enough reviews and comments from owners of all systems who say that crysis 2 is better looking than KZ3 etc. have you watched that youtube vid i linked above yet? that guy is talking to you it seems. reviews are opinions what I posted are technical facts because again I am backing up my claim with evidence as to why KZ3 is technically superior to Crysis 2 while u are notPlease Log In to post.
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