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#51 kaealy
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I don't hack into stuff, I don't jailbreak, I buy a system and pay for games on it, just like I'm supposed to LEGALLY. There is no need to change a system's OS. I have no sympathy for attention ****** or hackers.

Bigboi500

Eh, hacking doesn't mean pirating. So let's say your phone's/xbox 360's/ps3 OS gets corrupted, and you're out of warranty. And for some reason the only way to fix it is to JTAG your phone/360/ps3 and restore it, and you'd root it in the process. Is this evil? Your'e doing the same thing, roooooooting :P

People who pay $90 a month for smart phone fees are just throwing their money down the toilet, so I don't use them.

Yeah, I'll tell that to our boss and 50 of my co-worker. And then the rest of the world who's not turning burgers at Mcdonalds or bleeding to death in Iraq or afghanistan.

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#52 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] What extra things can u do with a hacked PS3 that u can't do with a PC? I don't see how it could lead to any creativity what so ever.

What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

I'd say that would be a pretty lame computer. Really I like my Ps3 but beyond playing games and watching Blu-rays it has no use that a 7 year old computer can't do better.

It's a pretty bad computer because of the lack of drivers, (no GPU drivers, limited numbers of SPEs working etc), this can all change. Still, it's about having the freedom to do it.
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#53 kaealy
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[QUOTE="kaealy"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]I'm no tech expert, but if I understand correctly what he has done is the foundation for piracy and online cheating on PS3? That's two things that threaten my gaming experience (long and short term). I don't understand those who want to see him dead, that's waaay out of proportion. But he has caused me and many others grief for exhibitionist reasons and I don't like it. JigglyWiggly_

He's as much responsible for piracy and online cheating as Microsoft and other software companies are when people makes trojans or computer viruses for their OS/programming language.

Uh, he isn't making viruses lol, or if you want to consider his way to get root a virus, then ok you have a point. However, that "virus" is for your own system, not anybody else's. Hell you need physical access to use it, not much of a virus is it now?

What I ment was that he's not responsible for other peoples actions. Microsoft aren't responsible when basement gnomes are making viruses for Microsofts OS.

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#54 linkin_guy109
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the following was taken from a n4g article comment

Ok, let's see if we can clear things up here.

The PS3 came with OtherOS. Approximately 2% or less of PS3 users bothered to use it at all. But as is human nature, people want what they can't have and so when OtherOS was removed, suddenly everyone wanted it (obviously not everyone, but more people made a big deal of it than used it).

While the PS3 had OtherOS, it had the LEGITIMATE capability of running homebrew apps. Sony GAVE people this ability. FREELY! So, my question to Mr. Hotz and all of you who support him and all hackers is this. If you had the legitimate ability to run homebrew apps and old emulators on the PS3, why didn't you? Why was it necessary for Mr. Hotz to continue in his pursuit of hacking the PS3 (I know why he did it, he wanted access to the RSX, which Sony locked out, but you don't need the RSX for homebrew apps, it's just a GPU) when he and all of you had the legitimate ability to run any homebrew apps you wanted?

Why does he now claim it's to restore OtherOS when he's directly responsible for its removal in the first place?

See, the way I see it is that he had Linux capability, he had homebrew capability, everyone had it. But it wasn't good enough, or it's not really what he wanted. So how can you all sit there and claim he's doing consumers a service with this, when he caused a chain reaction of events leading to where we are today?

I'm sure the inevitable hypervisor argument will pop up, where one of you will claim that OtherOS was removed for memory purposes, and you're right it was. But as a 2 pronged attack. Sony wasn't about to let someone get deep into their system where proprietary industrial secrets are kept. And if you think any company would, you're fooling yourself. Mr. Hotz' actions clearly show that he is a self-absorbed, self-important individual who DIDN'T hack the PS3 for any OtherOS feature or homebrew. He did it for attention. I'd wager money he hardly uses his PS3 at all, or ever did for that matter.

Arguing for homebrew apps on the PS3 is erroneous since EVERYONE had that ability prior to Mr. Hotz' hacking attempts that he incessantly boasted about. If you think that he actually cares about consumers or OtherOS, you're naive. He doesn't care about you or your rights. All he cares about is what he can get away with, and the attention it gives him. Why else would he have donation buttons, rap videos, and insulting blogs?

Don't think for a second any hacker cares about "consumer rights". They only care when they're caught and are trying to use it as a defense. Console hackers care about free stuff. Games, apps, whatever. That's what they care about. And the irony is that anything they try to run on the PS3 is of such horrible quality you may as well run it on the NES.

So to summarize. PS3 had Linux and homebrew legitimately. GeoHot hacked PS3 because he could and wanted the attention. GeoHot bragged about it. Sony tried to protect industrial secrets and removed that ability for everyone, even though less than 2% of the userbase bothered using it at all. GeoHot releases Sony's root keys, enabling people to create the ability for piracy and falling back on the tired old argument of "well, i don't condone it but i can't stop anyone from doing it". All the while he claims to be fighting for a feature HE ALREADY HAD AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING RID OF!

And you all see it as a protection of consumer rights. Pffft. Grow up.

dont bother arguing against this please, i didnt write this, i just feel that it fits in to this topic very well

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#55 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Don't expect everyone to be as unimaginative as you are.JigglyWiggly_
What extra things can u do with a hacked PS3 that u can't do with a PC? I don't see how it could lead to any creativity what so ever.

What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

You're mentioning a lot of things that almost no one wants to do. You have no case. I can guarantee you that the majority of the people using the custom firmwares on the PS3 are doing it to allow illegally obtained content onto it. He is one of the reasons why this is happening.

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#56 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]I'm no tech expert, but if I understand correctly what he has done is the foundation for piracy and online cheating on PS3? That's two things that threaten my gaming experience (long and short term). I don't understand those who want to see him dead, that's waaay out of proportion. But he has caused me and many others grief for exhibitionist reasons and I don't like it. kaealy

He's as much responsible for piracy and online cheating as Microsoft and other software companies are when people makes trojans or computer viruses for their OS/programming language.

Lol maybe ur right, but I doubt it :D! As I understand it what he did has pretty much exclusively been used for naughty purposes. Further it was very clear to him that this would be the result. Microsofts products have mainly been used in a positive, constructive way.
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#57 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

People who pay $90 a month for smart phone fees are just throwing their money down the toilet, so I don't use them.

kaealy

Yeah, I'll tell that to our boss and 50 of my co-worker. And then the rest of the world who's not turning burgers at Mcdonalds or bleeding to death in Iraq or afghanistan.

What on earth are you talking about? Only a burger flipper doesn't want a smartphone? Smart phones save soldiers from bleeding to death on foreign soil? :lol: The reason you have a "free" one from your boss is because it's really an electronic dog collar in disguise that he uses to keep track of you.

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#58 DerekLoffin
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I have no use for the guy. From a fundamental standpoint, his actions (and fail's before him) are responsible for deteriorating my gaming experience, along with many others. The benefit for doing such, not only doesn't do me the least bit of good, but was never very good for anybody (even a bargain basement PC can run Linux better than the PS3 can). Even if I were to give that to him though, he did NOT have to reveal everything on the net. He could just as easily released his firmware without anyone knowing the mechanics of why it works. Instead he took the approach of letting the info out on the net knowing full well the damage that would result. So, I see lots and lots of negative, very little positive, and unnecessary negatives for the positives to boot.

'I can do whatever I want with my system' is a defense so long as it doesn't affect someone else, in my mind at least. However, this does affect me and a whole lot of other gamers out there. I might even give him a pass this far, but his attitude about the whole thing destroyed any sympathy I have for him.

I was once quite anti-DMCA, but thanks to this I now think the DMCA doesn't got far enough if it lets him off.

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#59 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] Eh, hacking doesn't mean pirating. So let's say your phone's/xbox 360's/ps3 OS gets corrupted, and you're out of warranty. And for some reason the only way to fix it is to JTAG your phone/360/ps3 and restore it, and you'd root it in the process. Is this evil? Your'e doing the same thing, roooooooting :P

kaealy

People who pay $90 a month for smart phone fees are just throwing their money down the toilet, so I don't use them.

Yeah, I'll tell that to our boss and 50 of my co-worker. And then the rest of the world who's not turning burgers at Mcdonalds or bleeding to death in Iraq or afghanistan.

90$ a month works out to be 1180$ a year before taxes I'm not turning burgers at Mcdonalds or bleeding to death in Iraq, but I can think of some pretty good uses for 1180$ in my pocket.
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#60 Xeros606
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I personally believe that what he does from a technological standpoint is amazing but it's hard to sympathize for him or even believe that his actions are justified when he says that he does it for "freedom" or whatever while there are various open hardware and software platforms out there, and neither the PS3 nor the iPhone were intended to be used in that way by their creators.
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#61 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] What extra things can u do with a hacked PS3 that u can't do with a PC? I don't see how it could lead to any creativity what so ever.

What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

You're mentioning a lot of things that almost no one wants to do. You have no case. I can guarantee you that the majority of the people using the custom firmwares on the PS3 are doing it to allow illegally obtained content onto it.

Personally I'm using it to run linux subversion repository. I was using a virtual machine to do it on my PC, now I don't have to anymore.
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Don't expect everyone to be as unimaginative as you are.JigglyWiggly_
What extra things can u do with a hacked PS3 that u can't do with a PC? I don't see how it could lead to any creativity what so ever.

What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

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#63 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] What extra things can u do with a hacked PS3 that u can't do with a PC? I don't see how it could lead to any creativity what so ever.hakanakumono

What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

At the lose of PSN.
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#64 kaealy
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Linkin guy, there's loads of assumptions and guessing what Geoshots true motives are/was. There's no way to know for sure, I just know that my Iphone would be serveraly limited without this guy and I'll probably end up with a decent mediaplayer because of him enabling homebrew on the ps3. I can't really argue with that in mind, especially when I'm used as a PC gamer that cheaters and exploiters are banned by dedicted admins.

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#65 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

You're mentioning a lot of things that almost no one wants to do. You have no case. I can guarantee you that the majority of the people using the custom firmwares on the PS3 are doing it to allow illegally obtained content onto it.

Personally I'm using it to run linux subversion repository. I was using a virtual machine to do it on my PC, now I don't have to anymore.

You're one out of how many? 100,000? That's the problem with his argument.
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#66 Asim90
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Geohot is like a weapons supplier that says war is bad. He may not support piracy, but he causes it. He also causes games to be ruined by hacks and cheaters. Is all of that really worth it so that you can play roms and emulators that you can play on your PC anyway? Nope.

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#67 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What if you want to make your PS3 your computer? i5750at4Ghz

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

At the lose of PSN.

hackers are getting banned off psn anyway
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#68 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What if you want to make your PS3 your computer?

I'd say that would be a pretty lame computer. Really I like my Ps3 but beyond playing games and watching Blu-rays it has no use that a 7 year old computer can't do better.

It's a pretty bad computer because of the lack of drivers, (no GPU drivers, limited numbers of SPEs working etc), this can all change. Still, it's about having the freedom to do it.

That still doesn't change the fact that any PC made in the last 5 years can do that, more and better without some hack which would make it pointless unless of course your doing it for piracy.
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#69 Shielder7
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Geohot is like a weapons supplier that says war is bad. He may not support piracy, but he causes it. He also causes games to be ruined by hacks and cheaters. Is all of that really worth it so that you can play roms and emulators that you can play on your PC anyway? Nope.

Asim90
This.
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="RogueShodown"] You're mentioning a lot of things that almost no one wants to do. You have no case. I can guarantee you that the majority of the people using the custom firmwares on the PS3 are doing it to allow illegally obtained content onto it.

Personally I'm using it to run linux subversion repository. I was using a virtual machine to do it on my PC, now I don't have to anymore.

You're one out of how many? 100,000? That's the problem with his argument.

I don't doubt that piracy is a problem. But the fact remains that there was PS3 piracy well before geohot, and now that hes not coding for the ps3 anymore there is even more. Sony should go after the pirates. This is like what the US did. Attacking Iraq after 911. Guild by association is completely foolish.
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#71 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What if you want to make your PS3 your computer? i5750at4Ghz

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

At the lose of PSN.

So it's wrong for Sony to sue GeoHot over what some claim is perfectly legal, while it's okay for others to sue Sony for something that is clearly legal for them to do? I'm pretty sure they're allowed to take features out of the PS3 with prior notice. And it's not as if they wanted to purposely deprive users of a feature for a laugh; they did this to prevent hacks that would allow piracy and such through OtherOS.
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#72 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

TintedEyes

At the lose of PSN.

hackers are getting banned off psn anyway

So Sony says, I've yet to see it happen. And I have 2 jailbroeken PS3s.

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Geohot just provided the key to open the system up. What someone else decides to do with it whether its piracy or just creating homebrew applications (eg like all the Kinect apps we see) isn't his problem or anyone else. This is like someone blaming gun manufacturers because person A shot person B with their product.

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#74 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What if you want to make your PS3 your computer? i5750at4Ghz

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

At the lose of PSN.

You don't really "lose" PSN you just lose acccess to it. PSN is a free service and Sony is not obligated to provide it to everyone. Having access to that service is an incentive.

If you want to use your PS3 as a PC, go ahead. But you can't have it both ways. If you want a PS3 that accesses PSN, upgrade or buy another PS3. Or better yet, just spend the money on a PC.

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#75 kaealy
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[QUOTE="kaealy"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]People who pay $90 a month for smart phone fees are just throwing their money down the toilet, so I don't use them.

Shielder7

Yeah, I'll tell that to our boss and 50 of my co-worker. And then the rest of the world who's not turning burgers at Mcdonalds or bleeding to death in Iraq or afghanistan.

90$ a month works out to be 1180$ a year before taxes I'm not turning burgers at Mcdonalds or bleeding to death in Iraq, but I can think of some pretty good uses for 1180$ in my pocket.

I wouldn't know, I don't pay for using my work phone.

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#76 Sushiglutton
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[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What if you want to make your PS3 your computer? JigglyWiggly_
I'd say that would be a pretty lame computer. Really I like my Ps3 but beyond playing games and watching Blu-rays it has no use that a 7 year old computer can't do better.

It's a pretty bad computer because of the lack of drivers, (no GPU drivers, limited numbers of SPEs working etc), this can all change. Still, it's about having the freedom to do it.

It's a philosphical struggle between utilitarism (Sony) and deontology (GeoHot) :shock:! At the end of the day I think the the gaming experience for the majority is more important than a handful peoples right to build a gimped computer.
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#77 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Then you don't upgrade your firmware and keep Other OS. It's really that simple. Sony provided an incentive not to keep Other OS, but that doesn't mean that you can't use your PS3 as a computer if you want to.

hakanakumono

At the lose of PSN.

You don't really "lose" PSN you just lose acccess to it. PSN is a free service and Sony is not obligated to provide it to everyone. Having access to that service is an incentive.

If you want to use your PS3 as a PC, go ahead. But you can't have it both ways. If you want a PS3 that accesses PSN, upgrade or buy another PS3. Or better yet, just spend the money on a PC.

Looks like now they can have it both ways.
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#78 Bigboi500
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Geohot is like a weapons supplier that says war is bad. He may not support piracy, but he causes it. He also causes games to be ruined by hacks and cheaters. Is all of that really worth it so that you can play roms and emulators that you can play on your PC anyway? Nope.

Asim90

That's exactly what he is like. The only ones who would idolize a weapons dealer are the ones who wants full-scale war.

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#79 Asim90
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Geohot just provided the key to open the system up. What someone else decides to do with it whether its piracy or just creating homebrew applications (eg like all the Kinect apps we see) isn't his problem or anyone else. This is like someone blaming gun manufacturers because person A shot person B with their product.

jimmypsn

Not at all, if Geohot made his own console that allowed homebrew then this argument would hold up. Hacking a system and infringing on the regulations of said product is not the same as supplying something legally.

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#80 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Yet another uninformed poster. Actually read up on what the guy did and didn't do before you run his name through the mud.i5750at4Ghz

Oh, now he never did it.

wow.

He isn't even close to responsible for PS3 piracy. Did you even have any clue that piracy was rampant on the PS3 months before geohotz cfw? I bet you didn't.

He caused all these hacks on psn(never mind cod has always been hacked on psn). Sony should crucify him:twisted:

Cows are getting silly with this whole ordeal. "it'll destory sony":cry: These people are bigger fanboys than i orginally thought.

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the ps3 has a pretty big multiplayer fanbase and geohot opened the door for all the hackers to do what they want degrading the quality of the online experience,
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#82 jimmypsn
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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Geohot just provided the key to open the system up. What someone else decides to do with it whether its piracy or just creating homebrew applications (eg like all the Kinect apps we see) isn't his problem or anyone else. This is like someone blaming gun manufacturers because person A shot person B with their product.

Asim90

Not at all, if Geohot made his own console that allowed homebrew then this argument would hold up. Hacking a system and infringing on the regulations of said product is not the same as supplying something legally.

Hacking products like this has already been deemed legal. Look at Kinect, look at Iphone, he should win the case easily. Sony should go after the pirates. Going after Geohot is a waste of time.

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He opened the doors to worldwide piracy, thats what gets us... He completely denies this of course but he did it none the less, would you consider someone who cracked open a vault but let others do the taking to be quite within his rights? He deliberately did it for some silly moral ground just because he can. PS3 was pretty much the only console that had any sort of balance between the people who bought it, now it's gone and games have hackers and games are being pirated throughout the world.
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He opened the doors to worldwide piracy, thats what gets us... He completely denies this of course but he did it none the less, would you consider someone who cracked open a vault but let others do the taking to be quite within his rights? He deliberately did it for some silly moral ground just because he can. PS3 was pretty much the only console that had any sort of balance between the people who bought it, now it's gone and games have hackers and games are being pirated throughout the world.JohnF111
How will sony and gamers survive now that piracy is now possible on ps3.:cry:

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the ps3 has a pretty big multiplayer fanbase and geohot opened the door for all the hackers to do what they want degrading the quality of the online experience, savagetwinkie
except cod4 had plenty of hackers years ago on psn.
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The PS3 was locked down to help stop things like piracy and hackers destroying online which we have seen many threads complaining about how their game has been destroyed by hackers.

PS3 is locked down to improve your security on the PS3. It was a system you could thrust because you know nobody could hack it.

Now GeoHotz comes along attempts to hack the PS3.

He then wants to prove a point and hurt Sony after removing the Other OS which a very low majority of gamers used,even needed and alot of people would have no clue what it is. Sony got rid of it and that changes your gaming experiance how? Get over it. If people are going to whine over Other OS buy a freaking computer not a gaming console.

Sony got rid of it for the well being of the community playing online games and for peoples security.

GeoHotz and failoverflow is no doubt the cause of piracy and the destruction of PSN.

GeoHotz just wanted to hurt Sony for removing other os and prove he hacked the PS3. He knows once that key is released piracy will become available no time it's a no brainer.

Our online games are now riddled with hackers.

The system is now unsecure and it's taking ages for good firmware to come because they have to make security updates first.

Pirated games are now available.

Why should I thank him?

What has he done to help me?

Nothing but make my online experience worse.

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#87 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]He opened the doors to worldwide piracy, thats what gets us... He completely denies this of course but he did it none the less, would you consider someone who cracked open a vault but let others do the taking to be quite within his rights? He deliberately did it for some silly moral ground just because he can. PS3 was pretty much the only console that had any sort of balance between the people who bought it, now it's gone and games have hackers and games are being pirated throughout the world.MFDOOM1983

How will sony and gamers survive now that piracy is now possible on ps3.:cry:

Yeah clearly thats what i posted... :roll: The balance is gone and now its full of cheaters, ruined.
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]the ps3 has a pretty big multiplayer fanbase and geohot opened the door for all the hackers to do what they want degrading the quality of the online experience, MFDOOM1983
except cod4 had plenty of hackers years ago on psn.

COD4 hacks on public servers were patched untilt he jailbreak USBs cames along and now with the new jailbreak it's worse.

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]He opened the doors to worldwide piracy, thats what gets us... He completely denies this of course but he did it none the less, would you consider someone who cracked open a vault but let others do the taking to be quite within his rights? He deliberately did it for some silly moral ground just because he can. PS3 was pretty much the only console that had any sort of balance between the people who bought it, now it's gone and games have hackers and games are being pirated throughout the world.JohnF111

How will sony and gamers survive now that piracy is now possible on ps3.:cry:

Yeah clearly thats what i posted... :roll: The balance is gone and now its full of cheaters, ruined.

Odd how i haven't encountered these cheaters. A few youtube videos=/=psn as a whole
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]the ps3 has a pretty big multiplayer fanbase and geohot opened the door for all the hackers to do what they want degrading the quality of the online experience, fusionhunter

except cod4 had plenty of hackers years ago on psn.

COD4 hacks on public servers were patched untilt he jailbreak USBs cames along and now with the new jailbreak it's worse.

Nah
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]How will sony and gamers survive now that piracy is now possible on ps3.:cry:

MFDOOM1983

Yeah clearly thats what i posted... :roll: The balance is gone and now its full of cheaters, ruined.

Odd how i haven't encountered these cheaters. A few youtube videos=/=psn as a whole

Kinda sounds like the "US =/= World" we get here quite often and we all know there is land beyond America just like there are cheaters beyond videos posted on youtube

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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Geohot just provided the key to open the system up. What someone else decides to do with it whether its piracy or just creating homebrew applications (eg like all the Kinect apps we see) isn't his problem or anyone else. This is like someone blaming gun manufacturers because person A shot person B with their product.

jimmypsn

Not at all, if Geohot made his own console that allowed homebrew then this argument would hold up. Hacking a system and infringing on the regulations of said product is not the same as supplying something legally.

Hacking products like this has already been deemed legal. Look at Kinect, look at Iphone, he should win the case easily. Sony should go after the pirates. Going after Geohot is a waste of time.

Well, according to Sony he breached the regulations and user policy of the product hence why they're taking him to court. Also, how is it possible to go after the pirates? Pirates are just people like you and me that sit in their home and download games for free, they do it in millions around the planet. Geohot however is the one that allowed the pirates to do the pirating, so really he opened the doors to piracy. How is going after the perpetrator a waste of time? This could prevent him from hacking other Playstation products.

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#93 fusionhunter
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[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] except cod4 had plenty of hackers years ago on psn.MFDOOM1983

COD4 hacks on public servers were patched untilt he jailbreak USBs cames along and now with the new jailbreak it's worse.

Nah

They were you couldn't connect to the public servers with hacks which were stopped by the latest patch, you could only bypass the patch and play with others who bypassed but the jailbreak changed all that.

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the companies behind the phones he hacked dont have the guts and fortitude like sony only sony took action to get this crook. once sony sends him to jail all of this will be over and forgotten imho

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the companies behind the phones he hacked dont have the guts and fortitude like sony only sony took action to get this crook. once sony sends him to jail all of this will be over and forgotten imho

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Apple tried to do something about iPhone jailbreaking, but the federal government ruled against them and declared it legal. :| Get your facts straight, fakeboy.

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Hey TC, I agree with you 100% =). I personally have my HTC Vision (T-Mobile G2) rooted so I can add a bunch of features to the phone that without it, would never had. It is amazing how this little phone can do so much. I'm not against Geohot either, he jailbreaked the iPhone which is awesome. A vanilla iPhone isn't very fun but a jailbroken is amazing. Also, I am a big time user of Linux Distros. Have Ubuntu on my Desktop and OpenSuSE on my Laptop. I was very mad when Sony removed the OtherOS feature from the PS3...=( It has my living room based Linux machine. People should stop hating on this guy. Yea he has an ego, who wouldn't tho after successfully opening the PS3 up? That is a major achievement, that most of you will never achieve. Wouldn't you guys feel very proud if you perfected the SAT/ACT? got a 4.0 GPA? or whatever your lifetime goal is? Simple answer is Yes, you would, unless you don't care about life or have no desire for achievements. Blame the cheaters not Geohot for your displeasure.
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People are so mad! :lol: The best best is that all that hate is dircted at the wrong people.

If someone shoots someone else, do you blame the people who made the gun? Come on.

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Either everyone in gamespot is too afraid to admit that they actually do hack their stuff, or they're really as dumb as the average consumer. I have no sympathy for big corporations. Especially ones that are as hypocritical as Sony.
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People are so mad! :lol: The best best is that all that hate is dircted at the wrong people.

If someone shoots someone else, do you blame the people who made the gun? Come on.

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If the people making the gun were certain it would be used for murder I would def consider them immoral.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

People are so mad! :lol: The best best is that all that hate is dircted at the wrong people.

If someone shoots someone else, do you blame the people who made the gun? Come on.

Sushiglutton
If the people making the gun were certain it would be used for murder I would def consider them immoral.

Name me one thing that you can't use to hurt someone else, even though that's not it's intended use. One thing. Go ahead. I'll wait.