Top 11 Video game stories of all time

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Cloud's voyage of self-discovery isn't really the theme. It's an important part of the story, no doubt, but the theme is more focused on the planet's destruction than anything else. You could say self-discovery/self-acceptance is a theme (and Cloud and Sephiroth both go through a journey of self-discovery, though to different ends), but Cloud v. Sephiroth is not a theme in and of itself. And please don't bring up Advent Children. That movie ruins FFVII, It completely undoes Cloud's character arc, ruins a majority of the supporting cast, etc, etc. It's an abomination. A pretty one, but an abomination.DarkLink77

Texas, a theme is a mechanism in which an author expresses an opinion or thought.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Cloud's voyage of self-discovery isn't really the theme. It's an important part of the story, no doubt, but the theme is more focused on the planet's destruction than anything else. You could say self-discovery/self-acceptance is a theme (and Cloud and Sephiroth both go through a journey of self-discovery, though to different ends), but Cloud v. Sephiroth is not a theme in and of itself. And please don't bring up Advent Children. That movie ruins FFVII, It completely undoes Cloud's character arc, ruins a majority of the supporting cast, etc, etc. It's an abomination. A pretty one, but an abomination.DarkLink77

While this is completely missing the point, it is possible for two things in the story to be a threat to the planet. The imaginary rules you keep making up are aggrivating, especially in light of how little you understand about "themes" and actual aspects of the structure behind literary works.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] The problem is, its not the humans that are the true threat, but an alien entity...that muddles that message of how human actions distrub and can destroy the planet,as humans ar eno longer the biggest threat the planet has.

texasgoldrush

While this is completely missing the point, it is possible for two things in the story to be a threat to the planet. The imaginary rules you keep making up are aggrivating, especially in light of how little you understand about "themes" and actual aspects of the structure behind literary works.

No, it's not shoved away. It's prevelant throughout the entire game.

Meteor and Sephiroth are not "caused by outside forces," they are caused by human forces (one of them being a human force) and it wouldn't even matter if they were because stories are allowed to employ multiple subjects and themes.

Texas, there are no rules about what position a theme must take in the story as long as it is communicated well. The planetary theme spans the course of the entire game.

I know you're going to say "it's not communicated well durr hurr hurr" so our conversation basically ends here.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

While this is completely missing the point, it is possible for two things in the story to be a threat to the planet. The imaginary rules you keep making up are aggrivating, especially in light of how little you understand about "themes" and actual aspects of the structure behind literary works.

No, it's not shoved away. It's prevelant throughout the entire game.

Meteor and Sephiroth are not "caused by outside forces," they are caused by human forces and it wouldn't even matter if they were because stories are allowed to employ multiple subjects and themes.

Texas, there are no rules about what position a theme must take in the story as long as it is communicated well. The planetary theme spans the course of the entire game.

Shinra is responsible for the big rock in the sky.

Shinra is responsible for the big rock in the sky.

hakanakumono

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Shinra is responsible for the big rock in the sky.

texasgoldrush

Shinra is indirectly responsible for meteor. Sephiroth is directly responsible for meteor. Both are human forces.

No, not really.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Shinra is responsible for the big rock in the sky.

hakanakumono

Shinra is indirectly responsible for meteor. Sephiroth is directly responsible for meteor. Both are human forces.

No, not really.

The fact of the matter is, Square introduced something that did not fit the theme (or what you think was the theme), it detracts from it. Thats where I am getting at.

Jenova derails FFVII not only with the clash with the games themes, but is a terribly underwritten character that hurts Sephiroth's character.

While it might best some of the games on this list, I really honestly don't understand why people think the Metal Gear stories are so great. I think some people get taken away by "how" the story is told and then as a result feel it was a great story. No doubt they are told well (too many cutscenes to be honest), but I find MGS full of the same old contrived plot twists.

When held up to games like Planescape or Grim Fandango, MGS pales in originality.

Texas, a theme is a mechanism in which an author expresses an opinion or thought.

hakanakumono

Nope. Never played any of themwiifan001

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] actually its Sephiroth that is.....while Shinra may be indirectly responsible, it s Seph that is directly responsible as he failed to learn the real truth and acted on a falsehood. Just like the Empire is indirectly responsible for the sundering in FFVI, the main cause however was Kefka's ruthlessness.texasgoldrush

Shinra is indirectly responsible for meteor. Sephiroth is directly responsible for meteor. Both are human forces.

No, not really.

The fact of the matter is, Square introduced something that did not fit the theme (or what you think was the theme), it detracts from it. Thats where I am getting at.

Jenova derails FFVII not only with the clash with the games themes, but is a terribly underwritten character that hurts Sephiroth's character.

Which is irrelevant when you're talking about what humans are responsible for, not what you think humans are responsable for. The non-human aspect to him doesn't make him any less human. But either way, it doesn't matter.

You aren't getting at anything. You still don't understand what a literary theme is. A theme is a message the author wants to convey to the reader. There are no rules about themes "clashing," nor are there rules about how themes must play into the storytelling. You're making up nonexistant rules about storytelling, when you don't understand the real mechanics of storytelling. You are still talking about subjects.

Stories are allowed to employ a variety of subjects and themes. There are no strict rules how they must be employed, or what role they must take.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Shinra is indirectly responsible for meteor. Sephiroth is directly responsible for meteor. Both are human forces.

No, not really.

The fact of the matter is, Square introduced something that did not fit the theme (or what you think was the theme), it detracts from it. Thats where I am getting at.

Jenova derails FFVII not only with the clash with the games themes, but is a terribly underwritten character that hurts Sephiroth's character.

Which is irrelevant when you're talking about what humans are responsible for, not what you think humans are responsable for. The non-human aspect to him doesn't make him any less human. But either way, it doesn't matter.

You aren't getting at anything. You still don't understand what a literary theme is. A theme is a message the author wants to convey to the reader. There are no rules about themes "clashing," nor are there rules about how themes must play into the storytelling. You're making up nonexistant rules about storytelling, when you don't understand the real mechanics of storytelling. You are still talking about subjects.

Stories are allowed to employ a variety of subjects and themes. There are no strict rules how they must be employed, or what role they must take.

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Oh most defintitely u cant go wrong at all wit Metal Gear Solid, the strength in that whole series, is the story

xYamatox

Please explain why Metal Gear shouldn't be added. It's basically one of the best stories gaming has to offer.

because most of the metal gears were movies and not games ;p

Sorry, Needs Heavy Rain.

Sorry, Needs Heavy Rain.

gotdangit

Sorry, Needs Heavy Rain.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="gotdangit"]

Sorry, Needs Heavy Rain.

gaming25

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] uuummm no.....incredibly bad plot holes and logical inconsistancies.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="gaming25"] I disagree.gaming25

What plot hole, I bet I can explain it.

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Scott Shelby.... one of the worst plot twists ever..and so ilogically done.gotdangit

What plot hole, I bet I can explain it.

JRPG story very easily goes to Vagrant Story. There isn't a superior JRPG story. Human-after-all

The Metal Gear Solid series should be up on that list.majadamus

Lol that jumbled mess of a plot should be no where near the top ten.

shenmue hands down

too bad it was never finshed

Why isnt Max Payne or Legacy of Kain on this list?

Does KOTOR count?

What about The Witcher?Zero5000X

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]JRPG story very easily goes to Vagrant Story. There isn't a superior JRPG story. jasonharris48

I am playing through Suikoden II again for the 2nd time...the story may very well be the best in the genre.

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[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]JRPG story very easily goes to Vagrant Story. There isn't a superior JRPG story. texasgoldrush

I am playing through Suikoden II again for the 2nd time...the story may very well be the best in the genre.

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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Vagrant Story does have a great story but I found Xenogears story to be better. As for the MGS series the only way I could think adding it if we forget that MGS2, and especially MGS4 exists.

I am playing through Suikoden II again for the 2nd time...the story may very well be the best in the genre.

You forgot Uncharted 2

You forgot Uncharted 2

gregbmil

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] One of the better JRPG stories came out this year...Fragile Dreams Too bad the game isn't as good as the story.

I am playing through Suikoden II again for the 2nd time...the story may very well be the best in the genre.

texasgoldrush

Mass Effect does'nt deserve a spot there, other than that I don't have issues with the list.

Sorry, Needs Heavy Rain.

I clicked the spoiler by accident and I've never played SotC :cry:

BPoole96

Mass Effect does'nt deserve a spot there, other than that I don't have issues with the list.

Filthybastrd

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] uuummm no.....incredibly bad plot holes and logical inconsistancies.skrat_01

I'm glad you didn't put Max Payne on the list, the story is so overrated, it's not even funny. Seriously, once I got to the underground science labs, I started laughing out loud at how ****ing retarded it was. Also *SPOILERS* the big bad corporation were the bad guys, wow- never seen that before! Not to mention the comic stip cutscenes were really cheesy. The movie sucked too, but guess what, if they had stuck even closer to the game, it would have sucked even more.

I think Bioshock has earned it's place on the list though, regardless of whether or not it's just a revisioning of another story done by the same development team- at least it's much more original in this form. I mean in SS2, you were a person stuck on a spaceship with monsters running around, and a voiced AI trying to kill you, these concepts have been done many times before, though it's still a good story, it's not amazing.

Bioshock on the other hand, has you as a plane crash survivor, who finds himself in a 1940's futuristic, art-deco filled city at the bottom of the ocean, with the monsters being citizens who have modified their genes too far, and the villian being a man who watched his dream die before his very eyes. It's a whole lot richer than SS2, and that's not even including the Big Daddies and the like, which help propel the story into something even more fascinating.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="gaming25"] I disagree.texasgoldrush

Yay, someone who acknowledges Minerva's Den!

FEAR was very enjoyable.

muzik_mafia

Nice to see that MGS is NOT on that list. I've not seen a worse piece of "storytelling" in any game ever. It is terribly written, incredibly convoluted, and struggles not to collapse under its own weight by the end trying to tie up all the loose ends. On top of that, it's horribly edited. I mean Christ, they had to release an entire encyclopedia to keep audiences up to snuff. Kojima and his team knows how to make a good game and have an incredible eye for detail, but a good storyteller he is not.

That's it's so heralded boggles my mind.

Nice to see that MGS is NOT on that list. I've not seen a worse piece of "storytelling" in any game ever. It is terribly written, incredibly convoluted, and struggles not to collapse under its own weight by the end trying to tie up all the loose ends. On top of that, it's horribly edited. I mean Christ, they had to release an entire encyclopedia to keep audiences up to snuff. Kojima and his team knows how to make a good game and have an incredible eye for detail, but a good storyteller he is not.

That's it's so heralded boggles my mind.

Rekunta

Nice to see that MGS is NOT on that list. I've not seen a worse piece of "storytelling" in any game ever. It is terribly written, incredibly convoluted, and struggles not to collapse under its own weight by the end trying to tie up all the loose ends. On top of that, it's horribly edited. I mean Christ, they had to release an entire encyclopedia to keep audiences up to snuff. Kojima and his team knows how to make a good game and have an incredible eye for detail, but a good storyteller he is not.

That's it's so heralded boggles my mind.

Rekunta

Everything you said is wrong :)
The very same thing you said can be said for, for example LOST and look how popular it was..
Convulted != bad
The fact that has aencyclopedia means the world is rich and detailed.

Oh but no! Grim fandango! that's the bussiness! a soap opera with cliché caracters!