Top reasons why ME2 fails as a coherent story BIG SPOILERS

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

Revan_911

They'll explain that in Mass Effect 3 no doubt. It was there to build hype and excitement, and to segway into the next game. Obviously the Reapers are trying something different.

All this was explained in the game, so i'd say the writing on it is quite sensical.

It seems you got confused, made this thread, and multiple people owned you.

Everything I quoted and wrote makes sense, and is explained within the game.

Regardless that the one on the left has brown lights, and the one on the right blue lights, they all look like giant bugs. So if you expect me to beilve that every dominant species in the galaxy for the last 25 million years were a bug, thats not a real proof.

Revan_911

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

Revan_911

sorry dude but you lost, move on

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

Regardless that the one on the left has brown lights, and the one on the right blue lights, they all look like giant bugs. So if you expect me to beilve that every dominant species in the galaxy for the last 25 million years were a bug, thats not a real proof.

Revan_911

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

lundy86_4

They'll explain that in Mass Effect 3 no doubt. It was there to build hype and excitement, and to segway into the next game. Obviously the Reapers are trying something different.

All this was explained in the game, so i'd say the writing on it is quite sensical.

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

Regardless that the one on the left has brown lights, and the one on the right blue lights, they all look like giant bugs. So if you expect me to beilve that every dominant species in the galaxy for the last 25 million years were a bug, thats not a real proof.

dreman999

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

Revan_911

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

Revan_911

They'll explain that in Mass Effect 3 no doubt. It was there to build hype and excitement, and to segway into the next game. Obviously the Reapers are trying something different.

All this was explained in the game, so i'd say the writing on it is quite sensical.

It's you who is not accepting something. Why accept something, that for the most part, is untrue.

You're out of arguments and now you're trying to appeal to me in a somewhat calmer manner. I think you should just give up as we've shot your argument into pieces.

The series is unfinished, so they're not gonna tie off every plot thread yet. They introduced something new and unique in order to spur interest in the next game.

What about the human reaper looking like a giant Terminator? Can you explain that?

And while you're writting that big wall of text don't you see how contrived and non sensical this game's plot is? If bioware can't find decent writers WHY NOT KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!?

Revan_911

You're trying way too hard. I don't even have a 360 or decent gaming PC and I would really like to play this game. Your threads are getting obnoxious, start a blog about how you hate ME2 without playing it so we don't have to see it on our front page every day.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

He finally revealed the secret. He didn't play the game, he's just basing everything off of Youtube videos...

navyguy21

You can't really judge the story before you've seen the whole story. So, just wait for the third and final part of the story before passing judgement. So far I'm liking what I've seen.

Regardless that the one on the left has brown lights, and the one on the right blue lights, they all look like giant bugs. So if you expect me to beilve that every dominant species in the galaxy for the last 25 million years were a bug, thats not a real proof.

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They'll explain that in Mass Effect 3 no doubt. It was there to build hype and excitement, and to segway into the next game. Obviously the Reapers are trying something different.

All this was explained in the game, so i'd say the writing on it is quite sensical.

lundy86_4

It's you who is not accepting something. Why accept something, that for the most part, is untrue.

You're out of arguments and now you're trying to appeal to me in a somewhat calmer manner. I think you should just give up as we've shot your argument into pieces.

The series is unfinished, so they're not gonna tie off every plot thread yet. They introduced something new and unique in order to spur interest in the next game.

Or introduce something completely idiotic so you can have a boss fight with a giant terminator...Revan_911

Lol, you are so out of arguments it isn't even funny.

It's a plot point, and a cliffhanger for the 3rd game.

I ahven't played ME2,

but the fact that your rants go in depth aboutcharactersinteractions, how they should be feeling, tells me that playing mass effect more than likely has a really deep, story.

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Oh my god. It just doesn't end. Their a space only species. In high low gravity areas their body shape is the most logical form. That's why squid, octopuses, cuttlefish have their form in water. What use is legs if you only in space and you are always floating?dreman999

I know the problem! It's obama's fault!

darn him, always mesing EVERYTHING! up.

Or introduce something completely idiotic so you can have a boss fight with a giant terminator...Revan_911

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]Or introduce something completely idiotic so you can have a boss fight with a giant terminator...lundy86_4

Lol, you are so out of arguments it isn't even funny.

It's a plot point, and a cliffhanger for the 3rd game.

I know the problem! It's obama's fault!

darn him, always mesing EVERYTHING! up.

Peiner09

Out of curiosity. What IS a good story to you? What games you found so interesting and great that has to be better than ME2? I just can't believe someone took a game to the heart and is dead serious about it. Like c'mon you're face is probably red when you post each thread.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] So reapers are transformers....Give up dude.Revan_911

You can't really judge the story before you've seen the whole story. So, just wait for the third and final part of the story before passing judgement. So far I'm liking what I've seen.

Icarian

Not that I want to play Devil's Advocate, as the OP has been clearly and summarily pwned.. But yes, it is very possible to judge a trilogy-based story on the devlopment from the first installations. No write in their right mind would want to have two mediocre stories wrapped up by some epic super strong third installation.

From a literary point of view, you tend to want to start off with your second strongest story to entice the audience. The second installation will more often than not be a segway. This tends to make the second installment "soft" to some people. Not that this is really the case with ME2, since the gameplay alone is very amped up from the original. But, the fact remains, a LOT of writers can blow their load on a first installment of a story and be left with incoherent garble for the rest of the series. It does happen.

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[QUOTE="Revan_911"]Or introduce something completely idiotic so you can have a boss fight with a giant terminator...Revan_911

Lol, you are so out of arguments it isn't even funny.

It's a plot point, and a cliffhanger for the 3rd game.

So now you're working on assumptions. Well you know what the say about those, they make an *** out of you and me ;)

You don't know what will nbe addressed in the 3rd game, and won't know until release.

You are out of arguments, though technically you had none to begin with.

Out of curiosity. What IS a good story to you? What games you found so interesting and great that has to be better than ME2? I just can't believe someone took a game to the heart and is dead serious about it. Like c'mon you're face is probably red when you post each thread.

Heartagram_03

I ahven't played ME2,

but the fact that your rants go in depth aboutcharactersinteractions, how they should be feeling, tells me that playing mass effect more than likely has a really deep, story.

Peiner09

[QUOTE="Peiner09"]

I ahven't played ME2,

but the fact that your rants go in depth aboutcharactersinteractions, how they should be feeling, tells me that playing mass effect more than likely has a really deep, story.

Revan_911

We've counteracted all your arguments, and you just gave up. Which means, your opinion doesn't mean much right now, as you couldn't even come close to backing it up :lol:

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="Peiner09"]

I ahven't played ME2,

but the fact that your rants go in depth aboutcharactersinteractions, how they should be feeling, tells me that playing mass effect more than likely has a really deep, story.

lundy86_4

We've counteracted all your arguments, and you just gave up. Which means, your opinion doesn't mean much right now, as you couldn't even come close to backing it up :lol:

[QUOTE="Heartagram_03"]

Out of curiosity. What IS a good story to you? What games you found so interesting and great that has to be better than ME2? I just can't believe someone took a game to the heart and is dead serious about it. Like c'mon you're face is probably red when you post each thread.

Revan_911

[QUOTE="Ontain"]I always wondered how this Alliance made their capitol this alien base that used technology that they didn't understand and also were okay with the keepers that they didn't understand and seems like they didn't want to learn anything about. I know that if it were us our scientists would be all over that alien tech. and i'd hope that our governments wouldn't be stupid enough to make it their home base before we knew what it was and how it worked.UnknownSniper65

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[QUOTE="Revan_911"] The character interaction in ME2 has nothing to do with the main story. The main story takes about 10% of the game and it still manages not to make sense, and look completely idiotic.Revan_911

We've counteracted all your arguments, and you just gave up. Which means, your opinion doesn't mean much right now, as you couldn't even come close to backing it up :lol:

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"] The character interaction in ME2 has nothing to do with the main story. The main story takes about 10% of the game and it still manages not to make sense, and look completely idiotic.Revan_911

We've counteracted all your arguments, and you just gave up. Which means, your opinion doesn't mean much right now, as you couldn't even come close to backing it up :lol:

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

We've counteracted all your arguments, and you just gave up. Which means, your opinion doesn't mean much right now, as you couldn't even come close to backing it up :lol:

lundy86_4

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

No you didn't... Revan_911

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

We've counteracted all your arguments, and you just gave up. Which means, your opinion doesn't mean much right now, as you couldn't even come close to backing it up :lol:

lundy86_4

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

dreman999

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"] No you didn't... Revan_911

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

That's because you have no valid point. Realizing the difference between something that's bad and something that you just don't like would do you a lot of good. You would come off as much less ignorant and stubborn as you do here.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="Revan_911"] Yes, but i still didn't see anything that brought down my points...Revan_911

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Revan_911"] No you didn't... Revan_911

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

Read through the whole thread.

Vandalvideo also destroyed your idea of a "plot hole".

I destroyed your point on their only being the same type of reaper, and how come the all looked the same. I quoted the mass effect wiki, along with an explanation of the term "characteristic", and that explained, perfectly why they all looked similar, not the same.

Dreman posted pics of the differences between a couple of the reapers, showing they were not in fact the same.

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"]I guess someone missed my massive post.dreman999

I found it amusing, but now it's just gone too far.

Remind anybody of this?

Link

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

How so?

You are a stubborn fellow aren't you.

Take solace, that in this thread, you are alone.

lundy86_4

Read through the whole thread.

Vandalvideo also destroyed your idea of a "plot hole".

I destroyed your point on their only being the same type of reaper, and how come the all looked the same. I quoted the mass effect wiki, along with an explanation of the term "characteristic", and that explained, perfectly why they all looked similar, not the same.

Dreman posted pics of the differences between a couple of the reapers, showing they were not in fact the same.