Top Ten Gadgets That Will Be Trash Tomorrow. So Long, Video Games on a Disk

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"...But there are some gifts on display this holiday season that will make losers of all of us. They are hot now, but technology cycles are so fast that these gadgets and gizmos are destined to be doorbusters today, and doorstoppers tomorrow."

"Video games on a disk. Be prepared for a flashing "Game Over" to come to the land of video game disks and the used-game market in the next few years. Manufacturers have been pushing digital downloads for a while now. Want even more proof? Check out OnLive, which doesn't even require a powerful console or computer to play the latest games."

Digital Distribution is the future, weather we like it or not. Developers just love the idea.

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"...But there are some gifts on display this holiday season that will make losers of all of us. They are hot now, but technology cycles are so fast that these gadgets and gizmos are destined to be doorbusters today, and doorstoppers tomorrow."

"Video games on a disk. Be prepared for a flashing "Game Over" to come to the land of video game disks and the used-game market in the next few years. Manufacturers have been pushing digital downloads for a while now. Want even more proof? Check out OnLive, which doesn't even require a powerful console or computer to play the latest games."

Rikusaki

"sigh" alright we get it you like onlive

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

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"...But there are some gifts on display this holiday season that will make losers of all of us. They are hot now, but technology cycles are so fast that these gadgets and gizmos are destined to be doorbusters today, and doorstoppers tomorrow."

"Video games on a disk. Be prepared for a flashing "Game Over" to come to the land of video game disks and the used-game market in the next few years. Manufacturers have been pushing digital downloads for a while now. Want even more proof? Check out OnLive, which doesn't even require a powerful console or computer to play the latest games."

Dilrod

"sigh" alright we get it you like onlive

Chris_Williams

Onlive is not good at all.

Just saying.

(psst it's probably because of the line up of games that it has.)

*sees topic title*

*sees TC*

Meh...

I wonder if devs will also provide me with better Internet.siLVURcross

LOL you Onlive fanboys are cracking me up. All two of you. majadamus

This thread isn't about Onlive as much as it is about DD. Digital Download and Onlive are two different things.

[QUOTE="majadamus"]LOL you Onlive fanboys are cracking me up. All two of you. hypoty

This thread isn't about Onlive. Digital Download and Onlive are two different things.

I'm for downloadable titles, but as I've said before I still much prefer retail. OnLive isn't an option for me at the moment, and when it launches here in the UK I doubt I'll have fast enough broadband. I'll give it a try though, because I've been watching reviews and finding it absolutely brilliant when it works well.Ravensmash

If the only problem with the service is the bandwidth, then they've done something great here, as more and more people are able to use this service, their userbase will grow. They've basically created a new market entirely.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]LOL you Onlive fanboys are cracking me up. All two of you. Rikusaki

This thread isn't about Onlive. Digital Download and Onlive are two different things.

Well, I can see a debate brewing about that... Somewhere.

[QUOTE="majadamus"]LOL you Onlive fanboys are cracking me up. All two of you. hypoty

This thread isn't about Onlive as much as it is about DD. Digital Download and Onlive are two different things.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"]LOL you Onlive fanboys are cracking me up. All two of you. Rikusaki

This thread isn't about Onlive. Digital Download and Onlive are two different things.

Pretty much, But I find Steam to be the Superior Digital Distribution site.

Now if only Onlive and Steam can join forces!

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

This thread isn't about Onlive. Digital Download and Onlive are two different things.

LegatoSkyheart

Pretty much, But I find Steam to be the Superior Digital Distribution site.

Now if only Onlive and Steam can join forces!

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/FindDealsOnline/article.aspx?post=00ca9b16-ff0d-4dd1-82dd-65869a823522

"...But there are some gifts on display this holiday season that will make losers of all of us. They are hot now, but technology cycles are so fast that these gadgets and gizmos are destined to be doorbusters today, and doorstoppers tomorrow."

"Video games on a disk. Be prepared for a flashing "Game Over" to come to the land of video game disks and the used-game market in the next few years. Manufacturers have been pushing digital downloads for a while now. Want even more proof? Check out OnLive, which doesn't even require a powerful console or computer to play the latest games."

Digital Distribution is the future, weather we like it or not. Developers just love the idea.

Rikusaki

digital distribution really depends on internet providers.

right now, they are charing users more than $100 if you want to have 100GB+ bandwidth per month...it's not cheaper than disc based games for consumer...

Since internet speed and bandwidth is not enough for real quality stuffs, so those digital distribution quality are usually water down version, especially for movies. Btw you cant find games like FF13 and U2 for download. lol 30GB+ for a game. that's like users are paying extra $30 for download fee.

beside, cloud computingdepends on bandwidth too...

Cable/dsl companies aregreedy, and they arent stupid, they want a share of this business too, so internet is not going to be cheap.

However new hardware media might replace disc, like disc replaced cassette.

i smelll a 16 page thread full of onlive hate coming. Riku get ur flame shield ready lol

OnLive doesn't have the fraction of manufacturer support that disk based media do. More professional developers release their games on disc based media than via digital distribution, at least with big firms. And few publishers have released their game via OnLive. Another thing is hardware manufacturers don't have reason to be excited about OnLive because it makes the software processing non-local. Unless OnLive's demand for hardware increases proportionate to demand for hardware in the local-processed market, I can't see them getting fully behind the service. Another thing....OnLive is not digital distribution. OnLive is cloud computing. DIgital distribution, the most critical part of the term is the part about distribution. It's all about taking the game data, the 1s and 0s, and transmitting them over the internet to be stored on your hard drive. OnLive doesn't distribute the data, it just distributes the experience. Disk based distribution is certainly expensive and carries a lot of limitations, so I think more of the industry is prone to go digital, and OnLive sounds like a great concept and a wonderful alternative to console gaming, but unless I see a software catalog and publisher support rivaling, say, Steam, it would be silly to say that developers are gonna jump ship on disc-based media for OnLive.Brownesque

OnLive is digitally distributing the "experience." :P

Also, when a developer expects a game to be popular and makes 10,000,000 copies of a game, what happens to the hundreds of thousands that don't ever get sold? It all goes into a landfill. What a waste of resources!

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Riku you keep making too many Onlive threads, keep it down to one.

If it dies out that means no one is interested and you can stop.

You can say this is not about Onlive but we all know it is especially when you brought it up.

I wonder if devs will also provide me with better Internet.siLVURcross

It's not the internets that's the problem, in fact, it's not even broadband, I myself have a 2GB download broadband....Theoritically, I can download a 3GB game in less than 6 hours or so...But in REALITY, sometimes that takes up to a week! Why? It's not the broadband fault, it's the limited BANDWIDTH fault! Digital Download can never be fully realised or reach its full potential...Until the bandwidth across country improves by at least 2 fold if not even more! And consider how much it costs just to maintain the CURRENT bandwidth standards...I doubt that will happen anytime soon!

Some of you guys are so mean to Rikusaki. :x

Anyway I prefer to have a retail copy thought that's because I only got like 3GB left in my Xbox360 hard drive :P

I don't mind DD for PC gaming.

I think DD is certainly the way things are going. We'll see how soon, though.

The problem with going digital only is that not everyone has a solid broadband connection to buy the games and that would cut them out of the market.

so long psp go... diskless systems have no chance:D

Are you the offical spokesperson for OnLive? Give it a rest already. We all know the end of the world is coming, but I'm not going stop living my life tomorrow, the next day after that, and so forth.

Cloud gaming may be coming, but it won't be OnLive that leads the way. At best it's like the NGage, where the idea is sound but the technology is just not there yet.

Some of you guys are so mean to Rikusaki. :x

Anyway I prefer to have a retail copy thought that's because I only got like 3GB left in my Xbox360 hard drive :P

I don't mind DD for PC gaming.

timmy00

Half of that article talks about the ipad. I don't know anyone who even wants one of those.

I would much rather have a laptop, personally.

Half of that article talks about the ipad. I don't know anyone who even wants one of those.

I would much rather have a laptop, personally.

good_sk8er7

[QUOTE="good_sk8er7"]

Half of that article talks about the ipad. I don't know anyone who even wants one of those.

I would much rather have a laptop, personally.

Rikusaki

They do, they do.

Desktop computers. You thought these were already obsolete? It's astounding to many techies that these are still on wish lists for 2010 -- and more astounding that discount retailers will use low-priced desktop models to lure in customers on days like Black Friday. But it's absolutely inconceivable that any home user will still be tethered to a desktop in 2013. Home users will graduate to tablets or to laptops, and consumer desktops will become harder and harder to find. On the other hand, expect to see an upswing in user demand for large monitors, keyboards and mouses over the next few years as they try to replicate the desktop experience.

Um, no. I'm pretty sure that the lack of high-speed infrastructure plus people wanting to actually own something is a speed bump for DD.

Desktop computers. You thought these were already obsolete? It's astounding to many techies that these are still on wish lists for 2010 -- and more astounding that discount retailers will use low-priced desktop models to lure in customers on days like Black Friday. But it's absolutely inconceivable that any home user will still be tethered to a desktop in 2013. Home users will graduate to tablets or to laptops, and consumer desktops will become harder and harder to find. On the other hand, expect to see an upswing in user demand for large monitors, keyboards and mouses over the next few years as they try to replicate the desktop experience. Iantheone

No, just no. This whole list has lost any validity to me now. I wonder who their "techies" really are.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]

Desktop computers. You thought these were already obsolete? It's astounding to many techies that these are still on wish lists for 2010 -- and more astounding that discount retailers will use low-priced desktop models to lure in customers on days like Black Friday. But it's absolutely inconceivable that any home user will still be tethered to a desktop in 2013. Home users will graduate to tablets or to laptops, and consumer desktops will become harder and harder to find. On the other hand, expect to see an upswing in user demand for large monitors, keyboards and mouses over the next few years as they try to replicate the desktop experience. 6matt6

No, just no. This whole list has lost any validity to me now. I wonder who their "techies" really are.

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="Iantheone"]

Desktop computers. You thought these were already obsolete? It's astounding to many techies that these are still on wish lists for 2010 -- and more astounding that discount retailers will use low-priced desktop models to lure in customers on days like Black Friday. But it's absolutely inconceivable that any home user will still be tethered to a desktop in 2013. Home users will graduate to tablets or to laptops, and consumer desktops will become harder and harder to find. On the other hand, expect to see an upswing in user demand for large monitors, keyboards and mouses over the next few years as they try to replicate the desktop experience. Iantheone

No, just no. This whole list has lost any validity to me now. I wonder who their "techies" really are.

I'll take USB sticks delivered to me by pigeons over Digital Distribution. I'd rather have the cool box too. Not that Digital Distribution is a bad thing. Steam lets you pre-load games before release and unlocks them on launch day.

I kinda want DD to become standard, but there are 2 big problems.

Not everyone has the internet on the their consoles or has a good internet signal.

Issue with memory.

On a humorous note I never had any bandwidth limitations in Sri Lankaalextherussian

It's only really popular in the U.S and isn't very due to legislation in place to prefvent it and the general term "Net nuetrality" prevents many web providers from limiting there users or blocking service for other reasons. But the big companies are pushing very hard to get it in place where bandwitdth caps are common.

I rather have an actual disk then something in the air basicly. I only buy DD games if theres no other option and/or if it has some sort of benifit. Like downloading PS1 games from psn. By doing that i can play them on my ps3 and psp.