True console graphics king. New Killzone 3 MP Alpha code shots

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Bottom line is that Killzone 3 looks phenominal--grand, epic, innovative,and sports the best water in a game ever. What I don't get is that it is just so obvious that the best ps3 games look much better than anything on the 360. I think the problem is a lot of people are basing there "Gears 2 looks just as good if not better than Uncharted 2" on screenshots alone. Part of the beauty of these ps3 exclusives is in the animation. After reading that thread about TFU2, I started downloading the demo on my 360. When I finally started the game I'm thinking to myself, "Wtf? Are people BLIND?"

Heirren

No...

Just No...

Everything else is okay, but not that.

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

RDRhave a very impressive water too. Not saying it´s better, just diferent. KZ3 water looks fantastic indeed but like in most games is not dinamic.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Bottom line is that Killzone 3 looks phenominal--grand, epic, innovative,and sports the best water in a game ever. What I don't get is that it is just so obvious that the best ps3 games look much better than anything on the 360. I think the problem is a lot of people are basing there "Gears 2 looks just as good if not better than Uncharted 2" on screenshots alone. Part of the beauty of these ps3 exclusives is in the animation. After reading that thread about TFU2, I started downloading the demo on my 360. When I finally started the game I'm thinking to myself, "Wtf? Are people BLIND?"

Heirren

No...

Just No...

Everything else is okay, but not that.

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

Well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv9JwUkZr68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuY3-SLuDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51O1dzkqxw

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

No...

Just No...

Everything else is okay, but not that.

PAL360

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

RDRhave a very impressive water too. Not saying it´s better, just diferent. KZ3 water looks fantastic indeed but like in most games is not dinamic.

RDR does have pretty impressive water, but I feel KZ3 takes it one step further. The water in KZ3 really looks like it has some weight to it. I've never seen waves undulate like that in any other game.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

No...

Just No...

Everything else is okay, but not that.

PAL360

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

RDRhave a very impressive water too. Not saying it´s better, just diferent. KZ3 water looks fantastic indeed but like in most games is not dinamic.

Yap...RDR has better watter,more natural :)

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Bottom line is that Killzone 3 looks phenominal--grand, epic, innovative,and sports the best water in a game ever. What I don't get is that it is just so obvious that the best ps3 games look much better than anything on the 360. I think the problem is a lot of people are basing there "Gears 2 looks just as good if not better than Uncharted 2" on screenshots alone. Part of the beauty of these ps3 exclusives is in the animation. After reading that thread about TFU2, I started downloading the demo on my 360. When I finally started the game I'm thinking to myself, "Wtf? Are people BLIND?"

Heirren

No...

Just No...

Everything else is okay, but not that.

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

Bottom line is that Killzone 3 looks phenominal--grand, epic, innovative, and sports the best water in a game ever. What I don't get is that it is just so obvious that the best ps3 games look much better than anything on the 360. I think the problem is a lot of people are basing there "Gears 2 looks just as good if not better than Uncharted 2" on screenshots alone. Part of the beauty of these ps3 exclusives is in the animation. After reading that thread about TFU2, I started downloading the demo on my 360. When I finally started the game I'm thinking to myself, "Wtf? Are people BLIND?"

Heirren

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

No...

Just No...

Everything else is okay, but not that.

siddhu33

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

Well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv9JwUkZr68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuY3-SLuDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51O1dzkqxw

Okay, I stand corrected(I think), based on the Crysis vid. The others weren't that impressive. I say "think" because what impresses me most about KZ3s water is the oceanic effect. The gameplay vids that show the player within a helicopter shooting at what looks like an oil rig--the snowing vids, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. I've never even seen water like that attempted in a game before. So while the crysis vid is VERY impressive, not that it matters, but I bet it is a mod and running on modern hardware. Still, part of me feels the kz3 water is still better.

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

Gears 3 bullshots don't offend Cows at all.....

Instead they highly offend Hermits because even the Hermit's $700 PC rig can't run those Bullshots

ferret-gamer

You do know that the UDK has had the same updated engine that gears 3 runs on for a while now, and have the ability to use anti-aliasing:

Wow, just seen the RDR water effects, incredibel stuff! Never thought it looked like that, and it looks better than KZ3's water effects IMO, although KZ3 is the better looking game overall. I don't think Gears 3 will look better than KZ3, both are running on updated engines, and Gears will need to step its game up (lol) to look on par with KZ3. Just watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Really? I haven't seen better water, even in screenshot form. If you care to post, feel free. I don't mind being humbled--i'm no fanboy.

Heirren

Well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv9JwUkZr68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuY3-SLuDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51O1dzkqxw

Okay, I stand corrected(I think), based on the Crysis vid. The others weren't that impressive. I say "think" because what impresses me most about KZ3s water is the oceanic effect. The gameplay vids that show the player within a helicopter shooting at what looks like an oil rig--the snowing vids, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. I've never even seen water like that attempted in a game before. So while the crysis vid is VERY impressive, not that it matters, but I bet it is a mod and running on modern hardware. Still, part of me feels the kz3 water is still better.

KZ3 water looks better but it´s not technically better. Games like Resistence2, Halo3 or Gears2 have dinamic water with real time movement. I believe that KZ3 water is scripted, still great looking no doubt.

Bottom line is that Killzone 3 looks phenominal--grand, epic, innovative, and sports the best water in a game ever. What I don't get is that it is just so obvious that the best ps3 games look much better than anything on the 360. I think the problem is a lot of people are basing there "Gears 2 looks just as good if not better than Uncharted 2" on screenshots alone. Part of the beauty of these ps3 exclusives is in the animation. After reading that thread about TFU2, I started downloading the demo on my 360. When I finally started the game I'm thinking to myself, "Wtf? Are people BLIND?"

Heirren

...are you serious right now. For real some of you cows are really getting out of hand with you guys overhyping EVERY ps3 exclusive into oblivion. It's really getting bad. By the way those shots are horrible but in all honesty even when the game releases I just don't think it will be anything to write home about. I've seen shots of this game besides the one TC posted and it looks like KZ2.5

....and before anyone says well "Oh my gosh KZ2 was the ultimate graphics king. Oh my gosh let me see 360 do that blah blah blah..." No! KZ2 didn't impress me either. Vaseline and poor textures does not equal graphics king which is what KZ2/3 look like. Not even close.

this is a funny thread.. you sony fans don't know what good graphics are..daveg1

Amen to that bro...they overhype every ps3 exclusive. The only ps3 exclusive that I find visually impressive is uc2. But even with uc2 Gears 3 and the upcoming Crysis 2 are already on par with it.

Do people really think that massive blur and poor textures is a technical graphical feat? No wonder people think this is a joke thread.

Look people, I know these aren't the best quality and the offscreen pics have taken away quite a lot of finer details but in 720p HD the graphics is looking down right unparalleled. gears 3 doesn't stand a chance TBH.

gpuking

KZ3 water looks better but it´s not technically better. Games like Resistence2, Halo3 or Gears2 have dinamic water with real time movement. I believe that KZ3 water is scripted, still great looking no doubt.

PAL360

Wow, just seen the RDR water effects, incredibel stuff! Never thought it looked like that, and it looks better than KZ3's water effects IMO, although KZ3 is the better looking game overall. I don't think Gears 3 will look better than KZ3, both are running on updated engines, and Gears will need to step its game up (lol) to look on par with KZ3. Just watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Sw33tChilLi

I filmed it with my 5800. great looking water, terrible quality video.

Anyway, KZ2 looks clearly better than Gears2 but according to newest vids KZ3 and Gears3 look on par. I just feel that the jump is bigger in Gears engine than in KZ´s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

WhenCicadasCry

Lol, someone cranky posted a comment 5 minutes ago.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

KZ3 water looks better but it´s not technically better. Games like Resistence2, Halo3 or Gears2 have dinamic water with real time movement. I believe that KZ3 water is scripted, still great looking no doubt.

Sw33tChilLi

Im not bashing KZ3 water man, calm down. It´s important when you are interacting with water like in Resistence2 vid. Not that important when you are just looking at it.

I filmed it with my 5800. great looking water, terrible quality video.

Anyway, KZ2 looks clearly better than Gears2 but according to newest vids KZ3 and Gears3 look on par. I just feel that the jump is bigger in Gears engine than in KZ´s.

PAL360

[QUOTE="Sw33tChilLi"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

KZ3 water looks better but it´s not technically better. Games like Resistence2, Halo3 or Gears2 have dinamic water with real time movement. I believe that KZ3 water is scripted, still great looking no doubt.

PAL360

Im not bashing KZ3 water man, calm down. It´s important when you are interacting with water like in Resistence2 vid. Not that important when you are just looking at it.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Sw33tChilLi"] Lol, who cares about being technically better when we are talking about graphics? Its about how they LOOK, how PLEASING to the eye they are. And having said that, how do you know which water FX are more technically better than the other? Are you a programmer who has worked on the 360 and PS3?? If not, how do you know which FX are harder to programme?Sw33tChilLi

Im not bashing KZ3 water man, calm down. It´s important when you are interacting with water like in Resistence2 vid. Not that important when you are just looking at it.

I assumed that. Real time animations and physics are technically superior to scripted ones.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Sw33tChilLi"] Lol, who cares about being technically better when we are talking about graphics? Its about how they LOOK, how PLEASING to the eye they are. And having said that, how do you know which water FX are more technically better than the other? Are you a programmer who has worked on the 360 and PS3?? If not, how do you know which FX are harder to programme?Sw33tChilLi

Im not bashing KZ3 water man, calm down. It´s important when you are interacting with water like in Resistence2 vid. Not that important when you are just looking at it.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

waltefmoney

Lol, someone cranky posted a comment 5 minutes ago.

Lol yeah. Alot of haters. Even though I recorded that video and here's a pic of my PC:

:roll:

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]There is no such thing as a console graphics king. Sorry to burst your bubble. NielsNL

This discussion is getting ridiculous if you ask me. What the hell is wrong with calling the best looking game on consoles the console graphics king? That has been done on SW for ages! We all know friggin' pc games look better. Do hermits really need confirmation of this by not 'allowing' the term console graphics king to be used? Sorry, but that is just sad. And then even the mods feel the need to partake inthis discussion about semantics which is pointless to begin with, explaining what we are allowed to call the best looking console game and what we aren't allowed to call it! Really Gamespot? Is that what this forum is getting to?It's somewhere inbetween totalitarian regime and kindergarten if you ask me.

Guess we can all call it 'best looking game on consoles', because that is much easier than 'console graphics king'.

/rant

[QUOTE="Sw33tChilLi"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Im not bashing KZ3 water man, calm down. It´s important when you are interacting with water like in Resistence2 vid. Not that important when you are just looking at it.

Ilikemyname420

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

waltefmoney

Lol, someone cranky posted a comment 5 minutes ago.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

johny300

Lol, someone cranky posted a comment 5 minutes ago.

The UC Ice team is collaberating on KZ3, i expect nothing short of amazing for the visuals of KZ3, I find KZ2 overall the best looking of the 3 PS3 exclusives (UC2, GOW3)

So yea.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqju-l80M4

johny300

Lol, someone cranky posted a comment 5 minutes ago.

Lol I just checked. Someones butthurt.

...are you serious right now. For real some of you cows are really getting out of hand with you guys overhyping EVERY ps3 exclusive into oblivion. It's really getting bad. By the way those shots are horrible but in all honesty even when the game releases I just don't think it will be anything to write home about. I've seen shots of this game besides the one TC posted and it looks like KZ2.5

T-razor1

Yeah, dead serious. And don't call me a cow. I own a 360 as well, and at the moment my ps3 is collecting dust because of Halo Reach. It will be curious to see how KZ3 turns out because people that have played the game are apparently very impressed. The 3D aspect is also very innovative, whether you believe it or not. I just call it like I see it. I don't really have brand loyality, and if I did, it'd be for Nintendo--though I don't even own a wii.

consoles are going no where in graphics they have been maxed out for while now .

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

So this was a joke thread, right? I mean, I don't doubt KZ3 will look great but those pics are horrible, a blurry weapon with flat textures and nothing but debris and then he says "look at the detail" lol, so it was a joke right?!!

This however, take a look at this:

Samvigote

You can have your fists instead of a gun. Nothing shows when relaxed.

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

So this was a joke thread, right? I mean, I don't doubt KZ3 will look great but those pics are horrible, a blurry weapon with flat textures and nothing but debris and then he says "look at the detail" lol, so it was a joke right?!!

This however, take a look at this:

*pic*

Orchid87

You're talking about flat textures and yet your pic has no bump-mapping in sight. What the hell happened to Crytek? Crysis 1 is still a king but C2 shots look depressing.

Lolwut? I know consolites are obsessed with shiny textures with gloss factors of 10, but Crysis 2s Central Station looks amazing.

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Lol, someone cranky posted a comment 5 minutes ago.

WhenCicadasCry

Lol I just checked. Someones butthurt.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Look at the comments in the link again lol.johny300

Lol I just checked. Someones butthurt.

Was it you? :lol: It's obviously somewhere here. I don't care, it makes me lolz. :P

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="justsayin117"] Graphics prince?justsayin117

[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Lol I just checked. Someones butthurt.

WhenCicadasCry

Was it you? :lol: It's obviously somewhere here. I don't care, it makes me lolz. :P

Lolwut? I know consolites are obsessed with shiny textures with gloss factors of 10, but Crysis 2s Central Station looks amazing.

WhenCicadasCry

Are you implying that I am a consolite? Okay, whatever you say, *looks at sig* lem.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Lolwut? I know consolites are obsessed with shiny textures with gloss factors of 10, but Crysis 2s Central Station looks amazing.

Orchid87

Are you implying that I am a consolite? Okay, whatever you say, *looks at sig* lem.

Did you call Cicadas a Lem? Really?

I think it was more of a general statement.

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Lolwut? I know consolites are obsessed with shiny textures with gloss factors of 10, but Crysis 2s Central Station looks amazing.

lundy86_4

Are you implying that I am a consolite? Okay, whatever you say, *looks at sig* lem.

Did you call Cicadas a Lem? Really?

I think it was more of a general statement.

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

So this was a joke thread, right? I mean, I don't doubt KZ3 will look great but those pics are horrible, a blurry weapon with flat textures and nothing but debris and then he says "look at the detail" lol, so it was a joke right?!!

This however, take a look at this:

*pic*

WhenCicadasCry

You're talking about flat textures and yet your pic has no bump-mapping in sight. What the hell happened to Crytek? Crysis 1 is still a king but C2 shots look depressing.

Lolwut? I know consolites are obsessed with shiny textures with gloss factors of 10, but Crysis 2s Central Station looks amazing.

I know i loled too.johny300

I love how they base allegiances off a few posts. Half the time I could be construed as being a lem/hermit/cow/sheep just based off what I say in certain threads.

Also, lol at the youtube comments :lol:

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]Lolwut? I know consolites are obsessed with shiny textures with gloss factors of 10, but Crysis 2s Central Station looks amazing.

lundy86_4

Are you implying that I am a consolite? Okay, whatever you say, *looks at sig* lem.

Did you call Cicadas a Lem? Really?

I think it was more of a general statement.

His sig:I'm a PC gamer, please stop calling me a Lem.It hurts.

windsquid9000

Could it have been a play on words? If so, I see the possible connection.

I should think being a Lemming hurts regularly :P

[QUOTE="johny300"] I know i loled too.lundy86_4

I love how they base allegiances off a few posts. Half the time I could be construed as being a lem/hermit/cow/sheep just based off what I say in certain threads.

Also, lol at the youtube comments :lol:

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

Gears 3 bullshots don't offend Cows at all.....

Instead they highly offend Hermits because even the Hermit's $700 PC rig can't run those Bullshots

koolbobfatslob

You do know that the UDK has had the same updated engine that gears 3 runs on for a while now, and have the ability to use anti-aliasing:

The UDK has a ut3 demo in it that runs off the new engine.

The UDK has a ut3 demo in it that runs off the new engine.

ferret-gamer